Around 600 passengers arrived at Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport on the two KLM flights on Friday and then faced hours of delays and testing due to concerns over thenew virus variant. On the basis of initial testing, the Dutch health ministry estimated there may be around 85 positive cases among the passengers. "Of the positive test results, we are researching as quickly as possible whether they are the new variant of concern, now named 'Omicron'." https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/passengers-south-africa-face-wait-covid-19-testing-amsterdam-2021-11-26/ 欧洲上飞机之前不检测??
先在botswana发现啊 The B.1.1.529 variant was first spotted in Botswana and six cases have been found in South Africa Researchers spotted B.1.1.529 in genome-sequencing data from Botswana.
总统说延迟到周一才关的决定是福医生建议的。 President Biden said Friday that he delayed implementation of a new ban on travel from southern Africa on the advice of his medical advisers, who are led by Dr. Anthony Fauci. A reporter asked Biden why the emergency precaution will take effect Monday, rather than immediately to contain the potentially more contagious Omicron version of COVID-19. “Why not do it now like other countries have done?” the journalist asked Biden, who is spending a long Thanksgiving weekend in Nantucket. Biden said “because that was the recommendation coming from my medical team.” Fauci is Biden’s chief medical adviser and led a half hour briefing for Biden on Friday. Biden said “we don’t know a lot about the variant except that it is of great concern and it seems to spread rapidly — and I spent about a half hour this morning with my COVID team led by Dr. Fauci and that was the decision we made.”
总统说延迟到周一才关的决定是福医生建议的。 President Biden said Friday that he delayed implementation of a new ban on travel from southern Africa on the advice of his medical advisers, who are led by Dr. Anthony Fauci. A reporter asked Biden why the emergency precaution will take effect Monday, rather than immediately to contain the potentially more contagious Omicron version of COVID-19. “Why not do it now like other countries have done?” the journalist asked Biden, who is spending a long Thanksgiving weekend in Nantucket. Biden said “because that was the recommendation coming from my medical team.” Fauci is Biden’s chief medical adviser and led a half hour briefing for Biden on Friday. Biden said “we don’t know a lot about the variant except that it is of great concern and it seems to spread rapidly — and I spent about a half hour this morning with my COVID team led by Dr. Fauci and that was the decision we made.” AlaskaNYC 发表于 2021-11-26 22:04
总统说延迟到周一才关的决定是福医生建议的。 President Biden said Friday that he delayed implementation of a new ban on travel from southern Africa on the advice of his medical advisers, who are led by Dr. Anthony Fauci. A reporter asked Biden why the emergency precaution will take effect Monday, rather than immediately to contain the potentially more contagious Omicron version of COVID-19. “Why not do it now like other countries have done?” the journalist asked Biden, who is spending a long Thanksgiving weekend in Nantucket. Biden said “because that was the recommendation coming from my medical team.” Fauci is Biden’s chief medical adviser and led a half hour briefing for Biden on Friday. Biden said “we don’t know a lot about the variant except that it is of great concern and it seems to spread rapidly — and I spent about a half hour this morning with my COVID team led by Dr. Fauci and that was the decision we made.” AlaskaNYC 发表于 2021-11-26 22:04
Around 600 passengers arrived at Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport on the two KLM flights on Friday and then faced hours of delays and testing due to concerns over thenew virus variant. On the basis of initial testing, the Dutch health ministry estimated there may be around 85 positive cases among the passengers. "Of the positive test results, we are researching as quickly as possible whether they are the new variant of concern, now named 'Omicron'." https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/passengers-south-africa-face-wait-covid-19-testing-amsterdam-2021-11-26/ 欧洲上飞机之前不检测??
Around 600 passengers arrived at Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport on the two KLM flights on Friday and then faced hours of delays and testing due to concerns over thenew virus variant. On the basis of initial testing, the Dutch health ministry estimated there may be around 85 positive cases among the passengers. "Of the positive test results, we are researching as quickly as possible whether they are the new variant of concern, now named 'Omicron'." https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/passengers-south-africa-face-wait-covid-19-testing-amsterdam-2021-11-26/ 欧洲上飞机之前不检测??
Around 600 passengers arrived at Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport on the two KLM flights on Friday and then faced hours of delays and testing due to concerns over thenew virus variant. On the basis of initial testing, the Dutch health ministry estimated there may be around 85 positive cases among the passengers. "Of the positive test results, we are researching as quickly as possible whether they are the new variant of concern, now named 'Omicron'." https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/passengers-south-africa-face-wait-covid-19-testing-amsterdam-2021-11-26/ 欧洲上飞机之前不检测??
仅仅一周以前,scientists还在疑惑,为啥非洲几乎没有疫情。 https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/scientists-mystified-wary-africa-avoids-covid-disaster-81271647 昨天一天,铺天盖地的新闻都在贩卖恐慌。行动步伐好整齐。 政府的紧急状态,赋予行政官员更多的权力来剥夺人民的自由。纽约州长在新闻发布会上,简直是乐不可支。 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/president-biden-warns-new-omicron-covid-variant-spreads-rapidly-urges-booster-shots/ar-AARbeJA 拜登说,去打布斯特了!---咦,不是这个可怕的变种会突破目前的疫苗么,打这个原种疫苗又有啥用呢?逻辑?? "Get your booster shot now, so you can have this additional protection during the holiday season," Biden urged fully vaccinated Americans. 不仅如此,拜登还说了,疫情不会好,除非 global vaccinations,世界上每个人都扎针! The president also pointed to the importance of global vaccinations as he urged countries worldwide to vaccinate their populations against the virus amid the spread of the new strain. "The news about this new variant should make clearer than ever why this pandemic will not end until we have global vaccinations," he said in the statement.
因为mRNA疫苗可能影响免疫系统,看不到还是看不懂?疫苗副作用目前统计和科研都在故意忽略,不正常也不科学。 爱怎么理解怎么理解好了,懂得人知道是提醒,不懂的人懒的再浪费时间,不在这个问题再回贴了。很好笑。
我觉得零号病人出现在非洲某个艾滋病高发的地区,不一定是南非,南非也许只是碰巧测序能力比较强,测到了而已。
今天我看Trevor Bedford组拿着现有的所有omicron毒株在进化树上往前反推,发现他们的最近共同祖先出现在今年九月底到十月初,翻倍时间4.8天。再加上今天比利时报的那个去埃及旅游传上omicron的例子,这个毒株可能已经在非洲大陆上悄悄地传了两个月了
https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1464353267991810048
这4个人是旅行前做检测时发现阳性然后测序才发现的,应该是在博茨瓦纳本地感染的。目前所有的其他病例都是在旅行到达地做检测发现的,只有这4个是旅行前发现的。
所以呀 早就传开了 你还在那里凿凿必须是南非产的
声明说和艾滋病人没有任何关系,说来自艾滋病人看来也是甩锅
lol,美国从来不背锅的,就好比西班牙流感也是美国kansas先出现,但甩锅给西班牙~ 美国现在好像没什么积极测序列,即使测出来估计也闷着等别国吱声,美国10月忽然从跌转上升,谁知道是不是这个变种已经四面开花了
是的
硬说是没打疫苗的艾滋病人就是propaganda
除非你有证据美国最近上升是因为这个Omicron新变种造成的,不然还是少在这里散布谣言的好
南非现在是旅游季 travel ban带来的经济影响是巨大的
可是现在不ban也不行
但是ban了效果好不好要拭目以待了
可以看看midwest尤其是密歇根,上升很快
不否认MI上升快,但还是Delta造成的
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/passengers-south-africa-face-wait-covid-19-testing-amsterdam-2021-11-26/
欧洲上飞机之前不检测??
美国周一才关,这2天要放多少病毒进来?应该把这些人都隔离
先在botswana发现啊
The B.1.1.529 variant was first spotted in Botswana and six cases have been found in South Africa
Researchers spotted B.1.1.529 in genome-sequencing data from Botswana.
美国要知道隔离疫情何至于此
看来锅不一定能给艾滋病人背了
要真是omicron就好了,死亡率还不如delta怕啥
总统说延迟到周一才关的决定是福医生建议的。
President Biden said Friday that he delayed implementation of a new ban on travel from southern Africa on the advice of his medical advisers, who are led by Dr. Anthony Fauci. A reporter asked Biden why the emergency precaution will take effect Monday, rather than immediately to contain the potentially more contagious Omicron version of COVID-19. “Why not do it now like other countries have done?” the journalist asked Biden, who is spending a long Thanksgiving weekend in Nantucket. Biden said “because that was the recommendation coming from my medical team.” Fauci is Biden’s chief medical adviser and led a half hour briefing for Biden on Friday. Biden said “we don’t know a lot about the variant except that it is of great concern and it seems to spread rapidly — and I spent about a half hour this morning with my COVID team led by Dr. Fauci and that was the decision we made.”
我不懂这个delay的逻辑。这样不就是周六周日的航班塞得满满地来美国吗?
同不明白
为什么要Delay?上次印度禁航也是这样
wow
这个。。。 完全跟不上节奏了
so diplomatic ❤️
这个也已经知道了啊?
一共才几个确诊 就知道死亡率了 🐂
不仅知道死亡率低,还知道打三针一定有用
上次就是啊 chicago机场塞满了欧洲回美的人排队入关
🐂起飞了
希望不要强制第三针...
美国应该已经有了,只是还没检测吧
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/26/pfizer-biontech-investigating-new-covid-variant-jj-testing-vaccine-against-it.html
你这个人真是造谣从来不打草稿,你把我哪句话说过这个变种是南非产的指出来让大家看看?
我说了根据现在看到的媒体信息这个变种源自非洲,你难道不知道博茨瓦纳是一个非洲国家?
这个声明说的是这4个病例的HIV status,和这个变种是否源于艾滋病人是两回事。
所以现在改凿凿是非洲产的了?
你要这些人不造谣要憋死他们了
这位同学也太有罪推论了 艾滋在你这大概是原罪
毫无证据的情况下居然可以这么凿凿必须是艾滋病人的锅
他不是说10月新增加都是omicron吗,那死亡率确实不高啊
你造谣成性的谎话精先把我说过是南非产的证据拿出来,如果我从来没说过又谈什么“现在改“?
我早就拉黑了ytwk1. 感觉他/她的语气特别冲,视角也严厉苛刻,我在跟他/她交流过程既没有乐趣也没有什么启发。我还挺怕自己在网上混多了也跟他/她一样。
你的理解能力真让人着急。我说那个声明说的这4个病例和艾滋无关和这个变种究竟是否源于艾滋病人是两回事就等于说这个变种一定源自艾滋病人?就等于说艾滋是原罪?
你这种人一开口要么歪曲别人的话要么凭空造谣,尊重事实对你来说难度太大了。
我确实对不尊重事实的人很不耐烦
谢谢分享。
看样子是继续打针,然后迟早被扎成马蜂窝?
这阳性也太多了吧!还不说还有之后会转阳的,天
让想跑的赶紧先跑?
Haha
原来胡乱信人被叫醒还不开心
继续装睡更开心😃
谢谢提醒
i love this logic
你说的“被叫醒还不开心“不就是那位春风过驴耳的感受吗?
你自己就是那种专门招摇撞骗的人,在这里一而再地编谎话,我揭穿你的谎言有必要客客气气吗?
要强制第4针!
我都编了些啥?
春同学也没endorse过我啥 只是告诉我一下某同学发言的风格吧?(该风格貌似仅在此贴已证实)
论坛不就是这样 互通有无?这楼里有几个对病毒序列的进化很有思考的小伙伴的 我还是很开心搞明白了为啥新冠变异可以那么快这件事的
希望为啥omicron这个分支可以这么深这件事可以有个答案
你自己去回顾一下我回你的帖就知道你编了一些什么谎话了,我可以先举一个例子你造谣说我“凿凿必须是南非产“我让你拿出证据结果你一句都找不出来。
别人有没有endorse过你和我说的话有什么关系?我前面说我对不尊重事实的人不耐烦,然后你提到“被叫醒还不开心“那不正好说明了为什么春风过驴耳说跟我交流过程没有乐趣吗?
论坛互通有无没问题,但你在这里交流了太多骗人的谎话,别人揭穿你不是很正常吗?
我不记得你说Delta来自美帝实验室,但你绝对说过新冠来自美帝实验室
屏蔽就好, 别删帖
话说,我早在小浣熊发帖前两天就看到这条南非Nu艾滋病人变异病毒的消息了,美国政府的反应速度居然还比不上我等平民的小道消息。
这也太恐怖了
booster再等等了
这个难道不是吗?这是美帝自己的GoF实验室一直在做的课题呀
这个都是公开信息 Fauci不是说了 按理说nih没有出资让wuhan也做这样的实验 wuhan的钱主要是抓蝙蝠的
当然层主你是怎么从而得出你说的结论来的 是你的锅了
可你究竟揭穿了些啥?
是不是交流真的不在一个频道 于是你自己补脑了许多?
这事其实不难啊 我帖子不删都在那里 想看都能看
lz删一点留一点 就不能保证信息的完整性了 当然想怎么说就怎么说了
又扯什么楼主删帖,废话少说,我到底有没有像你说的那样“凿凿必须是南非产”?没有的话你不就是编谎话吗?你先承认你这是说谎我们再一个一个说别的。
看起来是人文主义思想的影响,流行病学家也分两派,一是发现了,其实到处都有了,等偶遇到一个超级传染机会就会点燃,现在只是星星之火被南非报了而已,南非病毒科研项目是一流的可信度高。断航引发歧视经济重创落后国家,其实也拦不住蔓延。二是地方保护主义,一看实验室结果,先断航再说,起码减缓蔓延哪怕虚惊一场,也比迅速蔓延的损失少的多,参见英德。美国不是没专家而是私心太重,疫苗的推广,经济利益比老弱病残重要,权衡利弊自然慢一拍。欧洲有了,美国人假期去欧洲探亲度假人流那么密集,恐怕断了南非没什么用。与其惶惶然,不如囤点N95更有效,物理隔离总不会怕变种吧。
我不知道Fauci说的话怎么就证明了新冠病毒来自美国实验室。你的逻辑很跳跃
你要有新冠病毒来自美实验室的证据或你所说的公开资讯,请赶快发给赵立坚。
谢谢你和楼主的信息!
这就像美国人不洗手鞋子穿屋里一样,环境干净,个人卫生就差;环境差,个人卫生就好
新冠反过来,国家层面控制,个人就不需要忧虑 国家不控制,每个人就自求多福,爱护自己
荷兰在机场从两班来自非洲航班600个乘客中发现61个阳性,立刻隔离。美国在机场测核酸吗?美国做大量测序吗?美国的测序应该是发达国家中倒数的。
当然不测就没有,被 CDC 的低效和无能逗笑了。
至少五年!
听说要持续五年的打击能力
当然,,不测就没有。美国作为生化制药第一大国,新冠测序的工作全球倒数。好处当然多多,以后可以理直气壮地说虽然我国感染人数最多,死亡最多,但是我们不是任何著名变种的原发地!
原始wildtype版本,其他都还没批呢
spike protein编码RNA不同而已,packaging啥的不都一样
我也看到那个bedford的分析了,看来确实复制不是最快的,共同祖先推测是10月初
南非这点还是挺厉害的
有这种说法吗?
😯,新闻媒体赶紧爆啊
美国算是这次疫情中最没有担当的大国了。欧洲很多国家虽然选择躺平,但对病毒监控也是持续严密的,而且发现问题,政策很快。美国有这个能力不做,到底是为什么真的很难想象
现在已经迟了,欧洲可能已经失控
new不用了,没有nu
荷兰捷克每天2万飙升,德国也突然7万。 德国和荷兰是南非这些殖民国家宗主,航班特别多,去南部非洲旅行都在阿姆斯特丹和德国转机。
荷兰2个航班600人,61感染。所以早已传开了。
加拿大美国也逃不了,福奇今天说他一点不奇怪如果美国发现变种。
要到温哥华多伦多吃饭快来吧,要去美国买东西快去吧,以后不知道什么时候才能过境
都什么年代了, 还殖民宗主
美国躺平是真的彻底的躺平。。 美国人太实在了
看来这个variant在欧洲已经传了一段时间了。
这才是科学家应有的态度,不像美国什么都是资本统治,钱和利润才是第一位的
昨天一天,铺天盖地的新闻都在贩卖恐慌。行动步伐好整齐。
政府的紧急状态,赋予行政官员更多的权力来剥夺人民的自由。纽约州长在新闻发布会上,简直是乐不可支。
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/president-biden-warns-new-omicron-covid-variant-spreads-rapidly-urges-booster-shots/ar-AARbeJA
拜登说,去打布斯特了!---咦,不是这个可怕的变种会突破目前的疫苗么,打这个原种疫苗又有啥用呢?逻辑?? "Get your booster shot now, so you can have this additional protection during the holiday season," Biden urged fully vaccinated Americans.
不仅如此,拜登还说了,疫情不会好,除非 global vaccinations,世界上每个人都扎针! The president also pointed to the importance of global vaccinations as he urged countries worldwide to vaccinate their populations against the virus amid the spread of the new strain. "The news about this new variant should make clearer than ever why this pandemic will not end until we have global vaccinations," he said in the statement.