我也开个english贴吧,学渣家长抱团吧

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楼主 (北美华人网)
我家是个小学娃,努力补阅读写作中。我列举了自己家用的方法和书。
我家用的是Evan Moor的Daily Reading Comprehension与 Daily Reading Comprehension Fundamentals两套书。
开始每天娃做一个阅读理解,然后我家自己做了一个checklist, 反正让小孩根据这个list,举举例子分析他看的文章。之后讨论讨论,在他题目做得怎样。
Comprehension Basics: Identifying the Main Idea Understanding the central thought or primary focus of a passage or paragraph. Example Activity: Highlight the most important sentence in a paragraph. Recognizing Supporting Details Identifying facts, examples, or descriptions that clarify and support the main idea. Example Activity: Create a list of all details that back up the main point. Understanding Text Structure Recognizing how a text is organized (e.g., sequence, cause and effect, compare and contrast). Example Activity: Use graphic organizers to map out the text’s structure. Summarizing Condensing a text into a shorter form while retaining its essential points. Example Activity: Write a one-sentence summary after reading each paragraph. Determining Author’s Purpose Understanding why the author wrote the text: to inform, persuade, entertain, or explain. Example Activity: Discuss the intent of a piece after reading (e.g., “What is the author trying to achieve?”). Identifying Cause and Effect Recognizing relationships where one event leads to another. Example Activity: Use cause-and-effect chains to connect ideas in a story or informational text. Recognizing Fact vs. Opinion Distinguishing factual statements from personal beliefs or interpretations. Example Activity: Highlight sentences in different colors to identify facts and opinions. Making Predictions Anticipating what will happen next based on the current text or prior knowledge. Example Activity: Pause midway through a story and write down possible outcomes. Drawing Conclusions Synthesizing information from the text to form judgments or interpretations. Example Activity: After reading, write what you think the overall message or lesson is. Understanding Literal vs. Inferential Meaning Literal Meaning: Understanding exactly what is written. Inferential Meaning: Reading between the lines to grasp implied ideas. Example Activity: Ask questions like “What does the text say?” (literal) and “What does the author imply?” (inferential). Recognizing Theme Identifying the underlying message or moral of the story. Example Activity: Discuss what the story teaches about life or people. Recognizing Point of View Understanding the perspective from which the story is told (e.g., first-person, third-person, omniscient). Example Activity: Rewrite a passage from a different character''''s perspective. Understanding Sequence of Events Tracking the order in which events occur in a story or process. Example Activity: Use a timeline to map out events in chronological order. Interpreting Vocabulary in Context Understanding the meaning of unfamiliar words by using surrounding text. Example Activity: Circle unknown words and underline context clues that help define them. Recognizing Tone and Mood Tone: The author’s attitude toward the subject (e.g., serious, sarcastic). Mood: The feeling or atmosphere created for the reader (e.g., suspenseful, joyful). Example Activity: Identify specific words or phrases that convey tone or mood. Connecting Ideas Across Sentences and Paragraphs Recognizing how ideas flow and relate throughout a text. Example Activity: Highlight transition words (e.g., “however,” “therefore”) and discuss their purpose. Comparing and Contrasting Examining similarities and differences between characters, ideas, or events. Example Activity: Use Venn diagrams to visually compare and contrast elements of the text. Recognizing Problem and Solution Identifying conflicts or challenges in the text and how they are resolved. Example Activity: Write a short summary of the problem and its resolution. Understanding Relationships Among Ideas Grasping connections like hierarchy (main idea vs. details) or interdependence (e.g., how one event affects another). Example Activity: Use mind maps to show connections between ideas. Evaluating the Validity of Information Critically assessing whether the information in a text is accurate, credible, and unbiased. Example Activity: Compare the text’s information with a trusted source.


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楼主孩子几年级?
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sunnyStore 发表于 2024-12-04 09:27
我家是个小学娃,努力补阅读写作中。我列举了自己家用的方法和书。
我家用的是Evan Moon的Daily Reading Comprehension与 Daily Reading Comprehension Fundamentals两套书。
开始每天娃做一个阅读理解,然后我家自己做了一个checklist, 反正让小孩根据这个list,举举例子分析他看的文章。之后讨论讨论,在他题目做得怎样。
Comprehension Basics: Identifying the Main Idea Understanding the central thought or primary focus of a passage or paragraph. Example Activity: Highlight the most important sentence in a paragraph. Recognizing Supporting Details Identifying facts, examples, or descriptions that clarify and support the main idea. Example Activity: Create a list of all details that back up the main point. Understanding Text Structure Recognizing how a text is organized (e.g., sequence, cause and effect, compare and contrast). Example Activity: Use graphic organizers to map out the text’s structure. Summarizing Condensing a text into a shorter form while retaining its essential points. Example Activity: Write a one-sentence summary after reading each paragraph. Determining Author’s Purpose Understanding why the author wrote the text: to inform, persuade, entertain, or explain. Example Activity: Discuss the intent of a piece after reading (e.g., “What is the author trying to achieve?”). Identifying Cause and Effect Recognizing relationships where one event leads to another. Example Activity: Use cause-and-effect chains to connect ideas in a story or informational text. Recognizing Fact vs. Opinion Distinguishing factual statements from personal beliefs or interpretations. Example Activity: Highlight sentences in different colors to identify facts and opinions. Making Predictions Anticipating what will happen next based on the current text or prior knowledge. Example Activity: Pause midway through a story and write down possible outcomes. Drawing Conclusions Synthesizing information from the text to form judgments or interpretations. Example Activity: After reading, write what you think the overall message or lesson is. Understanding Literal vs. Inferential Meaning Literal Meaning: Understanding exactly what is written. Inferential Meaning: Reading between the lines to grasp implied ideas. Example Activity: Ask questions like “What does the text say?” (literal) and “What does the author imply?” (inferential). Recognizing Theme Identifying the underlying message or moral of the story. Example Activity: Discuss what the story teaches about life or people. Recognizing Point of View Understanding the perspective from which the story is told (e.g., first-person, third-person, omniscient). Example Activity: Rewrite a passage from a different character's perspective. Understanding Sequence of Events Tracking the order in which events occur in a story or process. Example Activity: Use a timeline to map out events in chronological order. Interpreting Vocabulary in Context Understanding the meaning of unfamiliar words by using surrounding text. Example Activity: Circle unknown words and underline context clues that help define them. Recognizing Tone and Mood Tone: The author’s attitude toward the subject (e.g., serious, sarcastic). Mood: The feeling or atmosphere created for the reader (e.g., suspenseful, joyful). Example Activity: Identify specific words or phrases that convey tone or mood. Connecting Ideas Across Sentences and Paragraphs Recognizing how ideas flow and relate throughout a text. Example Activity: Highlight transition words (e.g., “however,” “therefore”) and discuss their purpose. Comparing and Contrasting Examining similarities and differences between characters, ideas, or events. Example Activity: Use Venn diagrams to visually compare and contrast elements of the text. Recognizing Problem and Solution Identifying conflicts or challenges in the text and how they are resolved. Example Activity: Write a short summary of the problem and its resolution. Understanding Relationships Among Ideas Grasping connections like hierarchy (main idea vs. details) or interdependence (e.g., how one event affects another). Example Activity: Use mind maps to show connections between ideas. Evaluating the Validity of Information Critically assessing whether the information in a text is accurate, credible, and unbiased. Example Activity: Compare the text’s information with a trusted source.

多谢楼主分享!我娃小学一年级,能自主阅读,但我真不知道他到底有没有读懂,一年级的reading超级简单,但题目有时候很tricky我自己有时候都不知道选什么。
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孩子阅读理解有问题的,不妨做做reading disorder测试。这种孩子不少。比如b, d, p, q不分这类的,做再多练习也收效甚微,需要特殊训练。
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你这是得每天要坐在孩子旁边,不仅看着他做题,还要跟他一起分析他写的这一堆东西?
不知道多少家长坚持得下来,反正我坚持不了。
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我女儿el一直都是99%percentile,据我观察,是因为她喜欢看书,包括各种经典。 我儿子el就不咋样,他几乎不看书。
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Fhb 发表于 2024-12-04 09:50
你这是得每天要坐在孩子旁边,不仅看着他做题,还要跟他一起分析他写的这一堆东西?
不知道多少家长坚持得下来,反正我坚持不了。

楼主貌似只有一个孩子,还是可以做到的。
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楼主孩子几年级?
crystalhuang 发表于 2024-12-04 09:39

3年级,下面是3年级,我虽然也觉得是不是要从K的开始补,所以也买了Evan Moor家K,1,2,年级对应的,但翻了翻之后,觉得直接用3年级就可以。 如果是4年级的,可以直接用4年级的。5年级可以直接用5年级的。6年级可以直接用6年级的,反正它说的那些reading comprehensive skill其实万变不离其中。当然文章的复杂度,细节增加,因为后面兼容前面,所以直接哪个年级就用哪个年级的就可以。
下面是三年级大概长什么样子。

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June6666 发表于 2024-12-04 09:43
多谢楼主分享!我娃小学一年级,能自主阅读,但我真不知道他到底有没有读懂,一年级的reading超级简单,但题目有时候很tricky我自己有时候都不知道选什么。

我家K,1,2都没有管, 3年级才开始写作,阅读,读书这些,我万万没想到数学要家长,英语也要家长。。。。
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谢谢分享
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楼主貌似只有一个孩子,还是可以做到的。
crystalhuang 发表于 2024-12-04 09:57

我不用做娃边上——准确说我在客厅里面刷剧,写Email,上华人,打消消乐。 娃自己把作业做好了,跟我拿着checklist讲讲文章讲什么。 只不过英语才开始,所以对answer question这种答案还需要我跟他一点点分析文章,分析他与答案的不同。
我家自己做WW3000的, 前面都是他自己对答案,忽然3年级发现,他其实answer question这一块并不怎么好。所以我家家长才介入的。
打个比方做说, 昨天他做了一道题,他的回答其实是把答案对应的那几句话抄了出来。对比答案就能发现不一样。 答案是对那一段做了概括,就是把最重要的三个单词挑出来,然后自己组织成了一句话。
我曾经受益与一个华人帖子,就是她讲怎么教小孩做文科读书笔记的。 她提到非常重要的一个点,就是原文是怎样描述,要求小孩也是用这个原文描述的词,精准的记笔记。好像是差不多意思的单词,差不多意思的表达,但是其实中间细微的差别往往就在表达上。
阅读理解也是一样,看似小孩子也回答上面,但其实对比答案,里面需要精准的概括,用词,逻辑,而这些是需要家长去提醒的。不知道娃需要多久能够自己上路,不需要家长再陪着对答案,去明了细微差别是怎样产生的。
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我家同时还在用WW3000,比较WW3000ABCD都是选择填空题,娃自己做自己对答案就可以搞定, 我家把阅读理解方法周末,做完这个阅读理解,我们讨论一下。 WW3000跟Evan Moor最大不同是WW3000要复杂得多,我家用的是另一个checklist
Core Text Interaction Skills 1. Active Reading Engage with the text by annotating, underlining key points, and writing questions in the margins. Practice: Highlight the main ideas and write a one-sentence summary for each paragraph. 2. Skimming and Scanning Skim to get a general idea of the text and scan for specific information. Practice: Skim an article to determine its main argument, then scan for supporting evidence. 3. Paraphrasing Restate sentences or paragraphs in your own words to ensure understanding. Practice: After reading a passage, write a summary in simpler language without using the author’s phrasing. 4. Questioning Formulate questions about the text to deepen comprehension and uncover hidden meanings. Practice: Write down at least three "why" or "how" questions after reading a section. 5. Making Connections Relate the text to personal experiences, other readings, or broader concepts. Practice: Write a brief reflection connecting the text to your life, another book, or a current event. 6. Identifying Main Ideas and Details Distinguish between the primary message and the supporting details. Practice: Create an outline where you list the main ideas and their corresponding details. 7. Recognizing Author's Purpose and Tone Determine why the author wrote the text (e.g., to inform, persuade, entertain) and identify the tone. Practice: Label each paragraph with the author’s intent and tone (e.g., critical, neutral, enthusiastic). 8. Highlighting and Annotating Use symbols (e.g., stars for key ideas, question marks for confusing parts) and write notes in the margins. Practice: Annotate an article with comments and questions about the arguments presented. 9. Text Visualization Imagine the scenarios, processes, or ideas described in the text. Practice: Draw a diagram or create a mind map of the concepts explained. 10. Identifying Organizational Patterns Recognize how the text is structured (e.g., cause/effect, problem/solution, chronological). Practice: Label each section of the text with its organizational pattern and explain why it was used.

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回复 9楼 sunnyStore 的帖子
三年级 能认识那么多 单词?
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赞楼主分享!我家娃二年级,也在用这套书,但我只是让他自己做,做错的重点讨论一下,做对的讨论得很少。如果更严格地按照书里的指导分析文章应该效果更好。
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楼主好用心。我也用过Ever-moor的Daily Reading Comprehension。不过我一般都是直接答案撕了扔了,娃做完我直接检查,也从来没对比过答案,也没有像楼主那样用心分析题型。我自己感觉,娃多做做自然就会了。
我娃后来开始做Spectrum的reading comprehension,也是什么年级买对应年级即可。文章比Ever-moor的Daily Comprehension长一点,一篇文章一页纸。问题也更多,也是一页纸。难度是我刚拿到手感觉比Daily Comprehension难,可能因为文章长和题目多,后来做多了也感觉差不多了。感觉看娃的作业对我也是个提高阅读的过程。
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下面link是我家自己做的ReadingSkillsCheckList
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fT3Ty-dbO4i_GK_fZ6VmqmdumahbpPqf/edit?usp=drive_link&ouid=100809205939131991512&rtpof=true&sd=true
感觉阅读其实跟写作有些相辅相成的。好像阅读checklist说多了之后,娃自己写时候,也会想主题是什么,文章的构架,细节怎样等等。


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我当年Sat reading writing 都分别有过满分。但是我觉得我英文挺差的。因为我词汇量很少,而且拼写写作都很差。我觉得类似Sat的这种题完全是应试,没有必要从小搞。小时候还是尽量保持兴趣,多读自己有兴趣的书,就是推词汇量和写作都比这个强吧。这种事情毫无乐趣可言。
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ELA 阅读写作需要天份也是需要喜欢,小学生多读书高年级加强词汇训练;初中英文多为名著精读分析写总结;历史多思考多分析写。提高ELA Standard test 就去刷些题 IXL beestar都不错,关键在于坚持。
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WW3000是什么?我怎么没有搜到?
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Wordly Wise 3000???
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kindaichi 发表于 2024-12-04 10:22
楼主好用心。我也用过Ever-moor的Daily Reading Comprehension。不过我一般都是直接答案撕了扔了,娃做完我直接检查,也从来没对比过答案,也没有像楼主那样用心分析题型。我自己感觉,娃多做做自然就会了。
我娃后来开始做Spectrum的reading comprehension,也是什么年级买对应年级即可。文章比Ever-moor的Daily Comprehension长一点,一篇文章一页纸。问题也更多,也是一页纸。难度是我刚拿到手感觉比Daily Comprehension难,可能因为文章长和题目多,后来做多了也感觉差不多了。感觉看娃的作业对我也是个提高阅读的过程。

你的英语在我之上,我老公也属于自己看题目做答案的,我的英文不具有这个水平。英语语文我都是非常非常的渣。 K,1, 2,3的WW3000就让他们两个这样过去了。
然而现在我意识到,“”simple“与”easy”是不一样的,回答问题不是觉得一样就是一样了。于是现在娃自己对选择填空题答案,但是这种阅读涉及到comprehensive,我们拿着答案,来一点点分析娃写的跟答案写的有什么不一样。答案的用词是不是更准确,是不是更简练,是不是更切中题目。
当时那个教小孩写文科读书笔记的帖子真的让我耳目一新,触类旁通学到文科的学习办法。非常感谢华人。
这样的分析,感觉对写作是有好处的,因为每篇阅读理解都可以当做一个文章来讲写作构架。
也谢谢你推荐Spectrum,我明年暑假来看看。
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Momo395 发表于 2024-12-04 10:34
回复 21楼 lambofgod168 的帖子
Wordly Wise 3000???

对,就是它,它家Grade 4的中间E部分的阅读理解感觉是一篇科普小论文了。 对于英语垫底的我来说,全凭娃给我讲这个文章各段讲什么,然后才能鼓起勇气拿着答案,对照小孩写的来分析了。答案为什么是答案,你跟答案有什么不同。。。。。

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shanggj 发表于 2024-12-04 10:17
回复 9楼 sunnyStore 的帖子
三年级 能认识那么多 单词?

我家小孩三年级遇到一个有教育硕士的老师,这个老师确实非常有自己的想法。 要求小孩每天读书,而且跟小孩说养成读书的习惯,不要因为是周末就不读,要每天读书。 作家长的要每天签娃读什么读了多少分钟。 同时在对教室的布置了,老师挂了很多书的封面,小孩看到了,也会对我说,妈妈帮我买什么书。 小孩回家也经常会说,读书让人聪明,这些老师在课堂上说的话。
所以小孩子在老师鼓励下,又自己的时间,也会沉迷于读书。不过一般他自己喜欢的读书是科普类的书,类似what if,how to这种。 为此我曾经给老师写过email,感谢在她的鼓励下,小孩子喜欢上了读书。并且提到小孩读的书偏科普类,希望老师能鼓励他读一些小说之类。
总之就是,三年级小孩子认识的单词量其实还是挺大,至少已经在我之上了。但是拼写比不上单词,比如他会问我approximate这个单词怎么写,但是他知道这个词什么意思。
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你这个很boring. 孩子没兴趣学不好一点不奇怪。建议找些Raz Kids进阶性的读物给孩子。这些书里每本后面都有帮助小朋友阅读理解的问题。
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sunnyStore 发表于 2024-12-04 09:27
我家是个小学娃,努力补阅读写作中。我列举了自己家用的方法和书。
我家用的是Evan Moor的Daily Reading Comprehension与 Daily Reading Comprehension Fundamentals两套书。
开始每天娃做一个阅读理解,然后我家自己做了一个checklist, 反正让小孩根据这个list,举举例子分析他看的文章。之后讨论讨论,在他题目做得怎样。
Comprehension Basics: Identifying the Main Idea Understanding the central thought or primary focus of a passage or paragraph. Example Activity: Highlight the most important sentence in a paragraph. Recognizing Supporting Details Identifying facts, examples, or descriptions that clarify and support the main idea. Example Activity: Create a list of all details that back up the main point. Understanding Text Structure Recognizing how a text is organized (e.g., sequence, cause and effect, compare and contrast). Example Activity: Use graphic organizers to map out the text’s structure. Summarizing Condensing a text into a shorter form while retaining its essential points. Example Activity: Write a one-sentence summary after reading each paragraph. Determining Author’s Purpose Understanding why the author wrote the text: to inform, persuade, entertain, or explain. Example Activity: Discuss the intent of a piece after reading (e.g., “What is the author trying to achieve?”). Identifying Cause and Effect Recognizing relationships where one event leads to another. Example Activity: Use cause-and-effect chains to connect ideas in a story or informational text. Recognizing Fact vs. Opinion Distinguishing factual statements from personal beliefs or interpretations. Example Activity: Highlight sentences in different colors to identify facts and opinions. Making Predictions Anticipating what will happen next based on the current text or prior knowledge. Example Activity: Pause midway through a story and write down possible outcomes. Drawing Conclusions Synthesizing information from the text to form judgments or interpretations. Example Activity: After reading, write what you think the overall message or lesson is. Understanding Literal vs. Inferential Meaning Literal Meaning: Understanding exactly what is written. Inferential Meaning: Reading between the lines to grasp implied ideas. Example Activity: Ask questions like “What does the text say?” (literal) and “What does the author imply?” (inferential). Recognizing Theme Identifying the underlying message or moral of the story. Example Activity: Discuss what the story teaches about life or people. Recognizing Point of View Understanding the perspective from which the story is told (e.g., first-person, third-person, omniscient). Example Activity: Rewrite a passage from a different character''''s perspective. Understanding Sequence of Events Tracking the order in which events occur in a story or process. Example Activity: Use a timeline to map out events in chronological order. Interpreting Vocabulary in Context Understanding the meaning of unfamiliar words by using surrounding text. Example Activity: Circle unknown words and underline context clues that help define them. Recognizing Tone and Mood Tone: The author’s attitude toward the subject (e.g., serious, sarcastic). Mood: The feeling or atmosphere created for the reader (e.g., suspenseful, joyful). Example Activity: Identify specific words or phrases that convey tone or mood. Connecting Ideas Across Sentences and Paragraphs Recognizing how ideas flow and relate throughout a text. Example Activity: Highlight transition words (e.g., “however,” “therefore”) and discuss their purpose. Comparing and Contrasting Examining similarities and differences between characters, ideas, or events. Example Activity: Use Venn diagrams to visually compare and contrast elements of the text. Recognizing Problem and Solution Identifying conflicts or challenges in the text and how they are resolved. Example Activity: Write a short summary of the problem and its resolution. Understanding Relationships Among Ideas Grasping connections like hierarchy (main idea vs. details) or interdependence (e.g., how one event affects another). Example Activity: Use mind maps to show connections between ideas. Evaluating the Validity of Information Critically assessing whether the information in a text is accurate, credible, and unbiased. Example Activity: Compare the text’s information with a trusted source.



这个必须是推娃狂魔,鸡血家长才行啊。三天打鱼,两天晒网的放羊家长肯定搞不下来。
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我家四年级阅读挺好的,但是写作不行。 就是阅读可以有99,写作大概80。80就是学区平均水平。 非常喜欢阅读,希腊神话都能读下去,写作要怎么提高了,我建议多写,但是人家没只趣,读比写容易多了。
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MDVH_2007 发表于 2024-12-04 10:57
你这个很boring. 孩子没兴趣学不好一点不奇怪。建议找些Raz Kids进阶性的读物给孩子。这些书里每本后面都有帮助小朋友阅读理解的问题。

每个小孩不一样,我家小孩阅读理解的问题是回答不到精准的点上。不是因为没有兴趣,而是因为他没有回答到点上。我家小孩非常喜欢看非科普书,还有科学史方面的书。阅读理解对他来说等于读个科普小文章,他做选择题的正确率很高。内容来讲,他还是挺喜欢的。但他自己表达的时候,却不能那么好。
以前学校开一个什么会,一个化学教授说,我一个非英语母语的,还得教学生怎么写实验报告,怎么用词,怎么描述。一个英语母语的学生,可能化学实验报告写得洋洋洒洒,但是完全没有精准的踩到点。我从华人教小孩写读书笔记那个帖子中受到的感悟,就是一个关于准确用词的问题。
我不懂其他专业,举数学例子。数学中problem与question, difficuty与complex,easy与simple都是不一样的意思。
以此类推,说明各个方面科普文的阅读理解comprehensive的回答用词也有他们原因。
阿呆啦
阅读要想真正提高,精读和做题还是不能少的。我发现有时候孩子貌似看了不少书,但其实没有真正理解和掌握文章的内容。
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Jade2021
我家孩子写作好,基本看过他写作的老师都说写的好,但是他做单词和阅读理解时候却拿不到最高的分数,我觉得如果想提供单词和阅读理解还是需要精读和做题的。
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hmitsui
很用心,我肯定做不了
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ashouluo
sunnyStore 发表于 2024-12-04 11:19
每个小孩不一样,我家小孩阅读理解的问题是回答不到精准的点上。不是因为没有兴趣,而是因为他没有回答到点上。我家小孩非常喜欢看非科普书,还有科学史方面的书。阅读理解对他来说等于读个科普小文章,他做选择题的正确率很高。内容来讲,他还是挺喜欢的。但他自己表达的时候,却不能那么好。
以前学校开一个什么会,一个化学教授说,我一个非英语母语的,还得教学生怎么写实验报告,怎么用词,怎么描述。一个英语母语的学生,可能化学实验报告写得洋洋洒洒,但是完全没有精准的踩到点。我从华人教小孩写读书笔记那个帖子中受到的感悟,就是一个关于准确用词的问题。
我不懂其他专业,举数学例子。数学中problem与question, difficuty与complex,easy与simple都是不一样的意思。
以此类推,说明各个方面科普文的阅读理解comprehensive的回答用词也有他们原因。

一个英语母语的学生,可能化学实验报告写得洋洋洒洒,但是完全没有精准的踩到点。

我见过这样的!我娃的同学,写的故事,洋洋洒洒,字数很多,猛一看真厉害,仔细看,就觉得这娃的逻辑是不清楚的,没有重点,想到啥写啥,一篇故事里出现十几个人物,你都搞不清谁是主角,故事到底想说啥。

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waterlycheee
Inferential Meaning这点我家直男娃真的太难了,教都教不会。他对所有文章和生活中的关系处理都是只理解字面意思,每次还批判我overthinking....一口老血。
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realsimplejill
回复 1楼 sunnyStore 的帖子
谢谢楼主码字分享👍
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shanggj
ashouluo 发表于 2024-12-04 12:09
一个英语母语的学生,可能化学实验报告写得洋洋洒洒,但是完全没有精准的踩到点。

我见过这样的!我娃的同学,写的故事,洋洋洒洒,字数很多,猛一看真厉害,仔细看,就觉得这娃的逻辑是不清楚的,没有重点,想到啥写啥,一篇故事里出现十几个人物,你都搞不清谁是主角,故事到底想说啥。


我见过写历史课 essay 论美国独立革命 和 法国大革命 写了一大片, 我问 这两革命 哪个先发生的, 愣是没答出来。
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yugan2005
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玫瑰的故事
多阅读可解
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praxis
不从升学考试功利来讲,小学鸡们可以大量读书+扩大单词量 读书不限形式,小说科普漫画都可以,每天养成读书习惯,家长不用一起看但可以随时多提问互动,发生什么了这么好笑?主人公碰到什么难题了?如果是你会怎么解决?你觉得作者处理的好么?你最喜欢谁?你最喜欢哪个moment?问题越细节越好,激励孩子自己思考并且表达出来。开车的时候吃饭的时候都可以作为话题讨论,这个其实比较容易做到。当然最好的是家长一起读书讨论了,但这太难了。那种纯做阅读题的,我觉得比较一言难尽,有些题出的也不怎么好,浪费时间消磨兴趣,也废家长,除非是为了准备私校应考。 提高词汇量工具比较多,ww3000,kumon,词根词缀,市面上很多辅助书,网站,beestar之类,我娃喜欢ww3000,可以上网课或自学(自学废家长),配合读书,词汇量涨的比较快,词汇量上去了,就更能读懂书中奥妙就会越喜欢读书,正循环。 读书兴趣第一,家里读书氛围创造出来,房间小图书架读书角弄舒服点,让娃看到就想拿本书躺,娃读书时家长也可以在旁边看自己的书,看到好玩的可以互相分享,各种诱导交流,互相受益。不要只用枯燥的做题消磨娃阅读的乐趣,功利心也不要太重,帮孩子收获终生受用的阅读快乐,也能收获孩子的信任。
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lunaeve
感谢分享。先mark 我们家里的学渣是特别爱看书,停不下来,但是spelling和阅读水平一直不高。
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joy35113115
mark mark 现在全靠学校 完全没管
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silvershoes
赞楼主用心。我也试过,但是不想管了。
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Jessicagu_gu
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lilyperi
来学习
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KC502
女儿十一年级,英语A+那种,我觉的是因为她喜欢读书,一柜子的流行小说,虽然我很不满意她读那些没营养的书,但学校里读的书很严肃,这些就当消遣了,所以我也没阻止过她。她写的东西还真不是很肤浅。儿子读课外书不很多,喜欢运动,感觉他看的书都是学校里布置的,英语也还行,写作拿过银奖。从这两个例看,感觉喜欢读书应该是对学英语有帮助,但也不完全。感觉我说了一段好似没说的话。
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iloveGelato
做题没啥用,想要英语好的唯一办法就是爱看书,大量阅读。
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chikorita
KC502 发表于 2024-12-04 15:02
女儿十一年级,英语A+那种,我觉的是因为她喜欢读书,一柜子的流行小说,虽然我很不满意她读那些没营养的书,但学校里读的书很严肃,这些就当消遣了,所以我也没阻止过她。她写的东西还真不是很肤浅。儿子读课外书不很多,喜欢运动,感觉他看的书都是学校里布置的,英语也还行,写作拿过银奖。从这两个例看,感觉喜欢读书应该是对学英语有帮助,但也不完全。感觉我说了一段好似没说的话。

但是两个孩子都很厉害,如果是不经意的凡尔赛,表达的很完整了,没有一句废话。。。
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realsimplejill
KC502 发表于 2024-12-04 15:02
女儿十一年级,英语A+那种,我觉的是因为她喜欢读书,一柜子的流行小说,虽然我很不满意她读那些没营养的书,但学校里读的书很严肃,这些就当消遣了,所以我也没阻止过她。她写的东西还真不是很肤浅。儿子读课外书不很多,喜欢运动,感觉他看的书都是学校里布置的,英语也还行,写作拿过银奖。从这两个例看,感觉喜欢读书应该是对学英语有帮助,但也不完全。感觉我说了一段好似没说的话。

你说得有道理。我家娃也只喜欢看一类书,娱乐类,也担心他太局限。
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realsimplejill
praxis 发表于 2024-12-04 13:03
不从升学考试功利来讲,小学鸡们可以大量读书+扩大单词量 读书不限形式,小说科普漫画都可以,每天养成读书习惯,家长不用一起看但可以随时多提问互动,发生什么了这么好笑?主人公碰到什么难题了?如果是你会怎么解决?你觉得作者处理的好么?你最喜欢谁?你最喜欢哪个moment?问题越细节越好,激励孩子自己思考并且表达出来。开车的时候吃饭的时候都可以作为话题讨论,这个其实比较容易做到。当然最好的是家长一起读书讨论了,但这太难了。那种纯做阅读题的,我觉得比较一言难尽,有些题出的也不怎么好,浪费时间消磨兴趣,也废家长,除非是为了准备私校应考。 提高词汇量工具比较多,ww3000,kumon,词根词缀,市面上很多辅助书,网站,beestar之类,我娃喜欢ww3000,可以上网课或自学(自学废家长),配合读书,词汇量涨的比较快,词汇量上去了,就更能读懂书中奥妙就会越喜欢读书,正循环。 读书兴趣第一,家里读书氛围创造出来,房间小图书架读书角弄舒服点,让娃看到就想拿本书躺,娃读书时家长也可以在旁边看自己的书,看到好玩的可以互相分享,各种诱导交流,互相受益。不要只用枯燥的做题消磨娃阅读的乐趣,功利心也不要太重,帮孩子收获终生受用的阅读快乐,也能收获孩子的信任。

赞👍 我也是想leverage小孩的爱好的基础上帮他提高阅读能力。
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jasminezzy
求问男孩五年级能推荐些什么小说?我娃读的都是毫无营养的graphic novel
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sunnyStore
jasminezzy 发表于 2024-12-04 16:53
求问男孩五年级能推荐些什么小说?我娃读的都是毫无营养的graphic novel

有个给小孩的list mensa reading list
其实graphic novel没啥不好。小孩想看什么就看什么。看不懂就放下,感兴趣就自己多看,废寝忘食的读。而且现在不敢兴趣看不懂,不等于以后不感兴趣看不懂。我家各个房间靠墙的地方都有书架,各种各样的书。客厅里面转角也是书架。小孩子中文全凭小孩子自己读graphic comic,到graphic book, 到全文字的书。英语也是他自己读的。现在只不过每周规定他读一本固定的小说,以免他的兴趣过于偏。
前一段时间娃读Fabre's Book of Insects,我在车上用微信读书放昆虫记的中文版。这书我很久之前年轻的时候读过,但现在一边开车一边听,来来回回听了2遍,很多年轻不曾注意的细节而感到震撼。看似这是一本写给小孩的昆虫科普书。但如果把昆虫之间关于生存,性欲,协作,与残忍的动物性直接映射到人类社会里面,其实也能看到在经济后面看不见的手的原始性动力。感觉每个人可能在选择书的时候,可能也在找寻自己内在的性格。
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CK
我娃在初中毕业的时候还是喜欢文科,想以后当作家的。。。。
到高中才意识到文科弱,现在坚决要做理工娃了。
谁家家长文科 能到高中还强过高中娃的?
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praxis 发表于 2024-12-04 13:03
不从升学考试功利来讲,小学鸡们可以大量读书+扩大单词量 读书不限形式,小说科普漫画都可以,每天养成读书习惯,家长不用一起看但可以随时多提问互动,发生什么了这么好笑?主人公碰到什么难题了?如果是你会怎么解决?你觉得作者处理的好么?你最喜欢谁?你最喜欢哪个moment?问题越细节越好,激励孩子自己思考并且表达出来。开车的时候吃饭的时候都可以作为话题讨论,这个其实比较容易做到。当然最好的是家长一起读书讨论了,但这太难了。那种纯做阅读题的,我觉得比较一言难尽,有些题出的也不怎么好,浪费时间消磨兴趣,也废家长,除非是为了准备私校应考。 提高词汇量工具比较多,ww3000,kumon,词根词缀,市面上很多辅助书,网站,beestar之类,我娃喜欢ww3000,可以上网课或自学(自学废家长),配合读书,词汇量涨的比较快,词汇量上去了,就更能读懂书中奥妙就会越喜欢读书,正循环。 读书兴趣第一,家里读书氛围创造出来,房间小图书架读书角弄舒服点,让娃看到就想拿本书躺,娃读书时家长也可以在旁边看自己的书,看到好玩的可以互相分享,各种诱导交流,互相受益。不要只用枯燥的做题消磨娃阅读的乐趣,功利心也不要太重,帮孩子收获终生受用的阅读快乐,也能收获孩子的信任。

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hiv2
孩子MAP在99%的家长可以不用操心啦