你不懂就不要乱说。 以前有被打死的案例。觉得你不熟，出门说句freeze，觉得自己危险就可以打了。 黑人和亚裔是最容易这样被打死的人群。有讨糖的，还有翻别人垃圾桶的，都容易被打死。 Indiana今年通过的法律是，即使警察未经允许闯入私宅都可以开枪。 Burns Ind. Code Ann. § 35-41-3-2 2012 Ind. SEA 1 https://www.lawserver.com/law/state/indiana/in-code/indiana_code_35-41-3-2 Sec. 2. (a) In enacting this section, the general assembly finds and declares that it is the policy of this state to recognize the unique character of a citizen’s home and to ensure that a citizen feels secure in his or her own home against unlawful intrusion by another individual or a public servant. By reaffirming the long standing right of a citizen to protect his or her home against unlawful intrusion, however, the general assembly does not intend to diminish in any way the other robust self defense rights that citizens of this state have always enjoyed. Accordingly, the general assembly also finds and declares that it is the policy of this state that people have a right to defend themselves and third parties from physical harm and crime. The purpose of this section is to provide the citizens of this state with a lawful means of carrying out this policy. Provisions concerning civil immunity for the justified use of force as defined in this section are codified under IC 34-30-31.
Indiana''''s Castle Doctrine The use of deadly force in Indiana is justified when it''''s used to prevent bodily harm to one''''s self or others, or the stopping of a forcible felony. It may also be used to prevent or stop an attack or unlawful entry into one''''s home, vehicle, or property. This includes unlawful entry by police officers. This also applies to other''''s home when the defender is a relative, or has the authority to protect it. It is also expectable to use deadly force to prevent the hijacking of an aircraft. Statute
你不懂就不要乱说。 以前有被打死的案例。觉得你不熟，出门说句freeze，觉得自己危险就可以打了。 黑人和亚裔是最容易这样被打死的人群。有讨糖的，还有翻别人垃圾桶的，都容易被打死。 Indiana今年通过的法律是，即使警察未经允许闯入私宅都可以开枪。 Burns Ind. Code Ann. § 35-41-3-2 2012 Ind. SEA 1 https://www.lawserver.com/law/state/indiana/in-code/indiana_code_35-41-3-2 Sec. 2. (a) In enacting this section, the general assembly finds and declares that it is the policy of this state to recognize the unique character of a citizen’s home and to ensure that a citizen feels secure in his or her own home against unlawful intrusion by another individual or a public servant. By reaffirming the long standing right of a citizen to protect his or her home against unlawful intrusion, however, the general assembly does not intend to diminish in any way the other robust self defense rights that citizens of this state have always enjoyed. Accordingly, the general assembly also finds and declares that it is the policy of this state that people have a right to defend themselves and third parties from physical harm and crime. The purpose of this section is to provide the citizens of this state with a lawful means of carrying out this policy. Provisions concerning civil immunity for the justified use of force as defined in this section are codified under IC 34-30-31.
Indiana''''s Castle Doctrine The use of deadly force in Indiana is justified when it''''s used to prevent bodily harm to one''''s self or others, or the stopping of a forcible felony. It may also be used to prevent or stop an attack or unlawful entry into one''''s home, vehicle, or property. This includes unlawful entry by police officers. This also applies to other''''s home when the defender is a relative, or has the authority to protect it. It is also expectable to use deadly force to prevent the hijacking of an aircraft. Statute
你不懂就不要乱说。 以前有被打死的案例。觉得你不熟，出门说句freeze，觉得自己危险就可以打了。 黑人和亚裔是最容易这样被打死的人群。有讨糖的，还有翻别人垃圾桶的，都容易被打死。 Indiana今年通过的法律是，即使警察未经允许闯入私宅都可以开枪。 Burns Ind. Code Ann. § 35-41-3-2 2012 Ind. SEA 1 https://www.lawserver.com/law/state/indiana/in-code/indiana_code_35-41-3-2 Sec. 2. (a) In enacting this section, the general assembly finds and declares that it is the policy of this state to recognize the unique character of a citizen’s home and to ensure that a citizen feels secure in his or her own home against unlawful intrusion by another individual or a public servant. By reaffirming the long standing right of a citizen to protect his or her home against unlawful intrusion, however, the general assembly does not intend to diminish in any way the other robust self defense rights that citizens of this state have always enjoyed. Accordingly, the general assembly also finds and declares that it is the policy of this state that people have a right to defend themselves and third parties from physical harm and crime. The purpose of this section is to provide the citizens of this state with a lawful means of carrying out this policy. Provisions concerning civil immunity for the justified use of force as defined in this section are codified under IC 34-30-31.
Indiana''''''''s Castle Doctrine The use of deadly force in Indiana is justified when it''''''''s used to prevent bodily harm to one''''''''s self or others, or the stopping of a forcible felony. It may also be used to prevent or stop an attack or unlawful entry into one''''''''s home, vehicle, or property. This includes unlawful entry by police officers. This also applies to other''''''''s home when the defender is a relative, or has the authority to protect it. It is also expectable to use deadly force to prevent the hijacking of an aircraft. Statute
minqidev 发表于 2022-09-01 12:01
This includes unlawful entry by police officers.keyword: UNLAWFUL 警察执法 (on law enforcement duty) 不算unlawful
是啊，感觉男的也就是个急性子，拧几下门把，看着也没有很暴力，就是急着想开门进去，不相信女的会锁门的那种。这父亲就说了句i got a gun，然后真的就几秒后立马开枪，感觉都没几秒，因为说了i got a gun，那男的就开始转身了啊，感觉说和开枪同时进行，否则怎么可能前面还中了一枪，看了视频，感觉真的惨，陌生人都觉得太枉死了，为他的父母感到伤心，养这么大了。
其实这事对老父亲也是很大的 emotional burden，所以视频里女儿和母亲都在安慰他，说他做得对 "you saved my life"。随便copy几个评论: Every person has the right to defend themselves. This man did the right thing. If someone is breaking in your home, you need to protect yourself and family. That father was right in everything he did. He has the responsibility to protect his family. I''m glad no charges will be filed, and I sincerely hope this family can get the counseling they need to begin their emotional healing. I held it together until I heard the daughter comfort her dad and tell him he saved her life. I’m sure that man needed to hear that from her at that exact moment. That violent stalker will never have a chance to terrorize his daughter, or anyone else’s for that matter, ever again. He probably saved more lives than just his daughter’s life. He’s a hero. It’s rough, but what choice did the father have? Protecting your family is priority. While it is sad that this happened, sometimes the use of deadly force is justified, and this clearly was one of those times. If someone is attempting to force their way into your home then clearly they are violent. If her father wasn’t there his daughter could easily have been another story on the news about an abusive and obsessed ex killing their former partner. I’m not even a fan of guns but I’m a big believer in protecting those you love. He was given MULTIPLE WARNINGS and MULTIPLE CHANCES to walk away.
华人网上圣母（或者假装的圣母的）真的好多，在这里秀自己不懂枪不懂法（背后开枪，防卫过当，三枪太多，一枪足够，父女冷血，邻居吃瓜）， 再宣扬下美国的堕落险恶（踩草皮死，敲门死，推销死，一言不合死，掀起杀前男友潮流，不杀生是善良中国思维，随意杀生是邪恶美国思维）， 又顺便racist了一把（黑杀黑，白杀白，白杀黄，白杀黑）。 copy个youtube上的评论，送给这些圣母 —— hope you never have a daughter with a stalker ex bf
正解。。。。
可以具体说下州吗？还有相应的州法？
否则我只能说你在造谣。
你不懂就不要乱说。 以前有被打死的案例。觉得你不熟，出门说句freeze，觉得自己危险就可以打了。
黑人和亚裔是最容易这样被打死的人群。有讨糖的，还有翻别人垃圾桶的，都容易被打死。
Indiana今年通过的法律是，即使警察未经允许闯入私宅都可以开枪。
Burns Ind. Code Ann. § 35-41-3-2 2012 Ind. SEA 1 https://www.lawserver.com/law/state/indiana/in-code/indiana_code_35-41-3-2
Sec. 2. (a) In enacting this section, the general assembly finds and declares that it is the policy of this state to recognize the unique character of a citizen’s home and to ensure that a citizen feels secure in his or her own home against unlawful intrusion by another individual or a public servant. By reaffirming the long standing right of a citizen to protect his or her home against unlawful intrusion, however, the general assembly does not intend to diminish in any way the other robust self defense rights that citizens of this state have always enjoyed. Accordingly, the general assembly also finds and declares that it is the policy of this state that people have a right to defend themselves and third parties from physical harm and crime. The purpose of this section is to provide the citizens of this state with a lawful means of carrying out this policy. Provisions concerning civil immunity for the justified use of force as defined in this section are codified under IC 34-30-31.
Indiana''''s Castle Doctrine The use of deadly force in Indiana is justified when it''''s used to prevent bodily harm to one''''s self or others, or the stopping of a forcible felony. It may also be used to prevent or stop an attack or unlawful entry into one''''s home, vehicle, or property. This includes unlawful entry by police officers. This also applies to other''''s home when the defender is a relative, or has the authority to protect it. It is also expectable to use deadly force to prevent the hijacking of an aircraft. Statute
德州之前有一个亚裔，好像还是华裔。。。
与人争执中，掏枪鸣枪警告，然后被对方掏枪打伤，最后还被告了一个意图谋杀。。。
典型的不懂法，随便瞎搞自己吃亏。
你先打过枪再来给建议吧。
不靠谱的建议害人害己。
有这种技术的人，不会说这种胡扯的话。
你举个例子，把法条贴出来，否则不要误导。。。
哪个州还要求在家里退让的。。。
我印象里有，但太少，实在记不住了。。。。
很多州是不能朝后背开枪的。如果子弹是从后背进入，自卫就不成立。
看起来你是在懂的情况下误导。。。
专业人士？？？
你贴的内容恰恰就是不退让的补充说明。。。
你可以贴一个州的code。。。要求在家里遇到致命威胁，然后要退让吗？？？
给个链接。。。
哪个州在code里面有你说的内容。否则我只能认为你还是在编造。
我不记得有州法里写了，从后面不能开枪这句话。
跟人争执不知道怎么鸣枪法。。。
是啊，而且他的双手又没有在口袋里，都已经逃了，站都站不稳了，还补2抢。这父女俩也是心肠够狠的。换了我们这种普通人，即使是有胆开了第一枪后，也不回再补了，真狠。狠人还是惹不起躲得起，这男的就是年轻冲动，也是活该被打死在这种狠人手里
我们州就可以不退让的州啊，我不管其他州。我一直说是这个男的找死 而且即使法律规定不是自卫，80%概率，陪审团会宣布无罪的，只要开枪的人没有明显的恶意。
这男的就是傻，蠢，冲动。否则他空手来杀这女的，还是在女的家里，真要杀人，也得懂脑经想想吧，所以说这男的也是活该，
This includes unlawful entry by police officers. keyword: UNLAWFUL 警察执法 (on law enforcement duty) 不算unlawful
你前面发的内容可不是这样。。。。
要救的 要采取一些基本的紧急抢救措施比如心肺复苏 这个是可以证明开枪者是没有谋杀意图的
当时有报道，记得是他们家开了一个修车店，店主是他岳父，跟客人关于价格有争执，好像有身体接触了。
这个男的拔枪往地上开了一枪，警告射击。。。————————这还是这男的被逮捕后，他老婆对媒体说的，在发起众筹的帖子里也是这样说的。。。。
然后另一方拔枪直接把这个男的打成重伤了，最后这男的还背了意图谋杀的法律麻烦。。。
典型的不懂法律，自己给自己挖坑，挖了不够，还继续深挖。
首先 各个州不一样 其次 他们已经早打过了911 第三 他们可以argue说因为开枪打了人 心神惶恐不知道该怎么做 所以只知道傻等911来救, which could be true
你哪个眼睛看到我不是这么说的？ 我只是说我们州肯定和Ohio一样，是合法的。 是不退让的。 别人敲了门，屋主感到危险，就可以开枪。
我再仔细查了查，好像只有DC明确要求经理避免冲突，其他州基本没有 On Duty to retreat
屋主只要不认可Warranty就可以了。不过警察可以通过各种方式证明Warranty是合法的。
视频显然是剪辑过的 父母劝他走 父亲去拿枪 男方把门上的玻璃打碎 连门框都撞松了 怎么可能一分钟不到做这许多？
往地上。。。他不怕误伤了谁？看国内电影电视自学成才的吧
玻璃打碎？他手上没有血啊。为啥要剪辑，这个视频非常连贯，从开始他打开最外的那个门，然后开始敲门。不过死者也没法替自己辩论了，活着的人可以随便说了。所以这个男的自己不知道生命的可贵，我们看客也没法帮他了
我看了，从外面回家，到男的被枪击，总共1分20秒，真的就是一分钟。不过男的一直没说话，是不是把他说话的都剪掉了？
打碎玻璃为啥一定要流血？就算流血了视频里看得清楚？
那人是个蠢货，一看就国内翻墙过来的 凡事有这个思维： 警察为啥不打犯人腿，不用麻醉枪， 警察为啥要一弹夹全部打完 为啥不能掏枪警告下，为啥一定要射击
都是翻墙过来的，或者刚下飞机的 真的，就用这一点，就可以直接区分：大陆人和美华
是啊，感觉男的也就是个急性子，拧几下门把，看着也没有很暴力，就是急着想开门进去，不相信女的会锁门的那种。这父亲就说了句i got a gun，然后真的就几秒后立马开枪，感觉都没几秒，因为说了i got a gun，那男的就开始转身了啊，感觉说和开枪同时进行，否则怎么可能前面还中了一枪，看了视频，感觉真的惨，陌生人都觉得太枉死了，为他的父母感到伤心，养这么大了。
有时候忍不住mean一些。。。。。
一部分ID拼命宣扬美国可怕，好像去敲个门都能被枪打。。。
另一部分ID各种不靠谱建议，各种不懂枪，不懂法。。。各种挖坑
和敲几下, 等几秒没啥关系
在美国只要敲门, 就有被枪击的可能
Google Door to door salesman shot by homeowner
所以，遇到麻烦打911真的屁用没有 一分多钟，门已经快（一说是已经）被撞开了 又过了几分钟，警察才show up 要不是老爸开枪，这家人不知道会有什么后果 YouTube上的老美几乎都是站老爸的 ，都说他有责任保护自己的家人
你在哪个地方这么奇葩的
我看到的可不是敲门，是撞门，侧着身子撞，感觉挺用力的
搞了半天是中部玉米州 我在IU呆过一年半，这辈子都不想去中部了 最差的地方
要打就得打死不是么，留着活口就等着无边无际的官司了
别的不说 打碎玻璃为啥一定会流血？
其实这事对老父亲也是很大的 emotional burden，所以视频里女儿和母亲都在安慰他，说他做得对 "you saved my life"。随便copy几个评论:
Every person has the right to defend themselves. This man did the right thing. If someone is breaking in your home, you need to protect yourself and family.
That father was right in everything he did. He has the responsibility to protect his family. I''m glad no charges will be filed, and I sincerely hope this family can get the counseling they need to begin their emotional healing.
I held it together until I heard the daughter comfort her dad and tell him he saved her life. I’m sure that man needed to hear that from her at that exact moment. That violent stalker will never have a chance to terrorize his daughter, or anyone else’s for that matter, ever again. He probably saved more lives than just his daughter’s life. He’s a hero.
It’s rough, but what choice did the father have? Protecting your family is priority.
While it is sad that this happened, sometimes the use of deadly force is justified, and this clearly was one of those times. If someone is attempting to force their way into your home then clearly they are violent.
If her father wasn’t there his daughter could easily have been another story on the news about an abusive and obsessed ex killing their former partner. I’m not even a fan of guns but I’m a big believer in protecting those you love. He was given MULTIPLE WARNINGS and MULTIPLE CHANCES to walk away.
这男的吸毒了，明显是往里使劲撞。老头警告无果开枪。吸毒男被打中后开始转身跑路，第三枪打在后背上。老头没问题，短时间内只打了三枪。没有追出去补枪。换了任何当爹的都这样
你没看清楚我说开枪这事有理吗？ 我说的是这女的跟死者真般配、 怪不得他俩是一对呢都不是正常人。
太夸张了吧。 那些上门推销的还得是高危职业了
他们已经报警了。这个时候可不能开门啊。谁知道他在不在血泊里，不开门看不清楚的。万一一枪都没打中，一开门他冲进来怎么办。这个时候是应该等警察。 我觉得这个老人做的没错。那男的已经在撞门了。难道坐以待毙吗？
他又不是存心要打死人。当时根本不知道对方死没死。
门关着，怎么能看见对方是不是在逃跑？
你事后诸葛亮知道得清楚，那个父亲隔着关闭的门怎么知道那个男的有没有武器，又有没有逃跑？
其实我觉得死者不值，对方给了警告，不冲动是完全可避免。这不该是性别问题，今天是男孩闯女孩家，也会有女孩闯男孩家，男孩闯男孩家…. 被闯入方有权保护自己家庭，为此而付出的代价，无法预知。
那确实属于正当防卫，没毛病
当时门是关着的啊，怎么可能看得见他是不是转身有没有逃跑啊。
美国没有防卫过当，很多人竟然都不知道，还套用国内的说法真是太搞笑了，可以测出来多少外宣在本版了。
也就是在美国，一个班的儿童被短端了，也就是在美国，小学生，中学生，高中生死在枪弹下。
同意，这贴里支持打死的估计很多是女孩家长，在中国，感觉是男追女，在美国一样的，很多女的也追男，所以不用性别带入，告诉孩子人家不喜欢你，不要死缠烂打的，不值得。这个男孩的命不值得为了这个女的而死，一点补值得，可惜。
同意，这男的也是自作孽，这女的看着挺高兴，喜欢这种人也是自己活该吧。好好教育孩子，不要和不喜欢自己的人纠缠，不值得，要为自己的家人亲人着想，不值得为了一个所谓的女朋友而这样死掉，不值得
致命伤在背后，说明逃走了还在开枪，而且这一枪打死了他，属于防卫过当。不过美国的法律几个人关起门一商量就决定了，也就这样了。
视频里没什么问题 只是层主问为什么要救 我就是解释一下 说吓坏了没有采取急救措施也没有什么问题
43万的房子，在我们这里，是个非常破的房子，好点的房子要至少7，80万，还是非常偏远的
美国这里，女的一点不比男的柔弱，都很剽悍的
最无语的是有个Id一直说死者去纠缠这个女的，怎么怎么不值得，无语！这家父女才是最惨好吗？没事儿谁愿意开枪打死人啊？？？？要不是这个男的一直纠缠啥事儿也没有。
我，男孩家长，支持打死 你需要教育你儿子的是：无论什么情况，不要硬闯别人的家或者车，人家说滚，赶紧润
这种还蛮可怕的一不留神打死白打死....
死的应该是那种人渣也请不起贵律师吧
按你的逻辑，就不要批判警察把嫌疑犯打成马蜂窝了？也不要批判那些撞人的来回车子碾压？真够冷血的，你一旦伤人就要人命的，你祈祷你不要撞在同样冷血的人手里。
这就是美国不是吗？200年前就这样，现在除了大爱圣母更多了，基层美国人的文化没什么改变。
为啥前男友都要硬闯前女友家呢？
我们某些国人的思想真的有毒，受害者必须是完美的，不然就不值得同情。什么逻辑。。。
哈哈哈哈，你接的真好
那些觉得撞别人家门硬闯也该被接受和原谅的恐怕是中国文化也没融入。
copy个youtube上的评论，送给这些圣母 —— hope you never have a daughter with a stalker ex bf
你们那里真可怕，和黑帮领地没什么两样，正常人越界就开枪。
她有打電話報警阿 而且男的這種行為確實很嚇人 但確實可以放槍把人嚇走 或許這是在這次的情況下最有可能和平收場的方式
不是要糖吧，就是夜里跑到别人家院子里，不知道是迷路还是什么的，房主喊freeze以后，那个人没有停下继续往里面走，房主就开枪了。后来很多人说那人可能英文听力不好，可能没有完全听懂freeze是啥意思。后来发现那个日本人也没有什么企图，也没有凶器啥的，就这么白死了，算是一个悲剧。
缅因州可能是对枪支管理最松的州，州内居民买枪和携带枪支几乎没有限制，而且允许隐蔽持枪，好像治安也还行。
去靶场用手枪打靶试试就知道了，瞄来瞄去也不容易打中，紧急情况更不是指哪打哪啊！ 好像有统计，训练有素的警察紧在急情况下开枪的命中率也不超过六成（大概的印象，不一定准确哈），即使大都数情况下嫌疑人离的不远。
其实有两个人，另外一个白人小孩也没停住朝屋主走反而都没事，但是日本被打死了。 也就是说我说的，因为那里附近亚裔少，所以屋主以为是陌生人，所以才开枪。
不过现在很多小区，中国人越来越多了，把亚裔当陌生人的情况会好很多。
你当时是怎么确定他没武器的？
你居然同意这个观点，大跌眼镜
如果这次被破门而入，留下两具尸体，你不会因为她老爸没开枪而骂他们SB吧
一个人敢这么破门而入你家，你当时的判断可能是，他要进来杀你女儿泄愤，他身上可能绑着两公斤炸药，或冲进来拔出刀给你俩每人身上捅17，8刀
撞门那瞬间都是怎么判断出这瘾君子手无寸铁的！？是他自己告诉你的？还是警察搜完他身后占门后告诉你的？