你说的是他吗？ 90年代来的人，可能对这个印象比较深，他们都很注意不要随意踩白人社区的草坪。反正结果是无罪。 Yoshihiro Hattori Yoshihiro Hattori: The door knock that killed a Japanese teenager in US - BBC News https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50063364 In October 1992, Yoshihiro Hattori knocked on the wrong door. Yoshi, as he was known, was a 16-year-old Japanese exchange student on his way to a Halloween party in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. He was with his friend Webb, and they were lost. "I didn''''''''t know that part of town too well, and I guess I took a couple wrong turns," Webb recalled in a recent interview. The two boys, decked out in fancy dress, thought they had found the right place. But they''''''''d made an innocent mistake that cost Yoshi his life. A media frenzy followed, and later a massive campaign to change America''''''''s gun laws. Twenty-seven years on, Yoshi''''''''s parents, his host family in the US, and a Louisiana lawyer recalled the day that changed their lives. ....... Webb and Yoshi knocked on the door but got no answer. They then saw a woman open the side garage door and peer out before abruptly slamming it in their faces. "We were walking away sort of confused, I had started to walk down the block wondering if it was a different house," Webb said. "But then someone opened the door - Rodney Peairs opened the door." Rodney Peairs, a 30-year-old supermarket butcher, was holding a .44 Magnum revolver. Yoshi turned back towards him. "He was very eager to get to the party and didn''''t understand, I guess, that [Peairs] had a gun. Maybe he thought it was a Halloween thing," Webb said. "He was light on his feet and just sang, in a very boisterous way, ''''We''''re here for the party! We''''re here for the party!'''' - sort of happy." Peairs shouted "Freeze!" but Yoshi seemed not to understand and kept moving forwards. Peairs fired once, hitting Yoshi in the chest, and slammed the door.
你说的是他吗？ 90年代来的人，可能对这个印象比较深，他们都很注意不要随意踩白人社区的草坪。反正结果是无罪。 Yoshihiro Hattori Yoshihiro Hattori: The door knock that killed a Japanese teenager in US - BBC News https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50063364 In October 1992, Yoshihiro Hattori knocked on the wrong door. Yoshi, as he was known, was a 16-year-old Japanese exchange student on his way to a Halloween party in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. He was with his friend Webb, and they were lost. "I didn''''''''t know that part of town too well, and I guess I took a couple wrong turns," Webb recalled in a recent interview. The two boys, decked out in fancy dress, thought they had found the right place. But they''''''''d made an innocent mistake that cost Yoshi his life. A media frenzy followed, and later a massive campaign to change America''''''''s gun laws. Twenty-seven years on, Yoshi''''''''s parents, his host family in the US, and a Louisiana lawyer recalled the day that changed their lives. ....... Webb and Yoshi knocked on the door but got no answer. They then saw a woman open the side garage door and peer out before abruptly slamming it in their faces. "We were walking away sort of confused, I had started to walk down the block wondering if it was a different house," Webb said. "But then someone opened the door - Rodney Peairs opened the door." Rodney Peairs, a 30-year-old supermarket butcher, was holding a .44 Magnum revolver. Yoshi turned back towards him. "He was very eager to get to the party and didn''''t understand, I guess, that [Peairs] had a gun. Maybe he thought it was a Halloween thing," Webb said. "He was light on his feet and just sang, in a very boisterous way, ''''We''''re here for the party! We''''re here for the party!'''' - sort of happy." Peairs shouted "Freeze!" but Yoshi seemed not to understand and kept moving forwards. Peairs fired once, hitting Yoshi in the chest, and slammed the door.
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你居然同意这个观点，大跌眼镜
如果这次被破门而入，留下两具尸体，你不会因为她老爸没开枪而骂他们SB吧
一个人敢这么破门而入你家，你当时的判断可能是，他要进来杀你女儿泄愤，他身上可能绑着两公斤炸药，或冲进来拔出刀给你俩每人身上捅17，8刀
撞门那瞬间都是怎么判断出这瘾君子手无寸铁的！？是他自己告诉你的？还是警察搜完他身后占门后告诉你的？
你当时是怎么确定他没武器的？
其实有两个人，另外一个白人小孩也没停住朝屋主走反而都没事，但是日本被打死了。 也就是说我说的，因为那里附近亚裔少，所以屋主以为是陌生人，所以才开枪。
不过现在很多小区，中国人越来越多了，把亚裔当陌生人的情况会好很多。
去靶场用手枪打靶试试就知道了，瞄来瞄去也不容易打中，紧急情况更不是指哪打哪啊！ 好像有统计，训练有素的警察紧在急情况下开枪的命中率也不超过六成（大概的印象，不一定准确哈），即使大都数情况下嫌疑人离的不远。
🛋️ 沙发板凳
可以打电话报警， 可以放枪威胁把人吓走， 在人倒地以后打911救助。。。
这女的得多傻才会自己送上有深仇大恨的前男友的家门去。还不如趁着过马路撞死，这个撑死算manslaughter，搞不好都不会判罪。
看新闻说男的吸毒，性情都变了，而且俩人一年半前就分手了。
开枪时女的在报警
这段太牛了。
啥样才算 合理?
Call police 算不算撤退的手段啊?
匿名把她家房子买下来，然后说有信件/包裹，要她来拿～～
所以我早年前买房的时候，看房时，我的agent特意 告诉我不要踩草皮，特别是白人多的小区，突然冒出一个亚裔踩草皮，可以不预警开枪的，现在Carmel亚裔越来越多了，就好一些了
问啥要救？救了说不清，后患无穷，就在一旁待着等警察来
白同学打白同学，无所谓啦，最后都会无罪释放。
亚洲老爸打死黑人前男友，那就麻烦大大滴啊。
德州小学事件后还要求全民相信警察会赶过来救人吗？开玩笑呢吗？
搜一下城堡法则。 家是属于“城堡”范围内的，那个男的一定要硬闯，这对父女是没有规避和退让义务，可以采取任何手段来保卫自己的。
不要吓唬我，我天天在院子里溜达。
不知道你住的是什么奇葩的neighborhood，从未听说过亚裔踩草坪，主人可以不预警开枪的。而且你说的是“可以”，表明这样做是合理合法的。这样吧，你查一查过去20年里，全美有什么案例， 是亚裔踩草皮，被无预警开枪的，而且开枪的是不被逮捕起诉的。一个就好。
现在好些了，你和邻居认识也没事啊。 主要是90年代中国人少，那些agent大多是90年代来Indiana得。
Good Law !
以前听说 鬼节有个日本留学生要糖刚进前院还没到房门, 被直接击毙 房主无罪
搞得我从不带孩子去要糖
我自己老板（白人）的猫，去了邻居，就被枪打死了。 我去年还是前年请的handy man，儿子用枪自杀，打死儿媳，然后还朝孙子头上打了一枪。
这不是neighborhood的问题，这是一个社会问题。枪击案到处都是，有自杀的，有朝门外开枪的，只是没在你的网络新闻上而已。只是在身边而已。Indiana的枪支问题一点都不少。 以至于，开枪只要不打死人，都没什么报新闻的意义。
谢谢警告，以后不会路过Indiana.
还有哪个红脖子州比较深井冰的？
我说了，很多年以前。现在应该好多了。但是还是会有类似的问题。 比如黑人或者墨西哥裔突然去个白人社区， 亚裔依然有这种可能。
我也会开枪保护自己的女儿，但是不会把对方打死，因为对方并没有武器
不是撞门时候在门后开枪的吗。 那根本就不知道门外人是不是转身了啊
你听说的是以讹传讹， 了解一下mails man 原则
这才是脑子清楚的～～
所谓身上冒烟， 其实就是中枪了 最后这一枪非常有问题， 严格追究的话，这一枪致死绝对是murder，至少是manslaughter 因为死者当时是逃跑， 而且unarmed，对屋主没有威胁， 这种背后开枪是非法的
你说的是他吗？ 90年代来的人，可能对这个印象比较深，他们都很注意不要随意踩白人社区的草坪。反正结果是无罪。
Yoshihiro Hattori
Yoshihiro Hattori: The door knock that killed a Japanese teenager in US - BBC News https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50063364 In October 1992, Yoshihiro Hattori knocked on the wrong door. Yoshi, as he was known, was a 16-year-old Japanese exchange student on his way to a Halloween party in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. He was with his friend Webb, and they were lost. "I didn''''''''t know that part of town too well, and I guess I took a couple wrong turns," Webb recalled in a recent interview. The two boys, decked out in fancy dress, thought they had found the right place. But they''''''''d made an innocent mistake that cost Yoshi his life. A media frenzy followed, and later a massive campaign to change America''''''''s gun laws. Twenty-seven years on, Yoshi''''''''s parents, his host family in the US, and a Louisiana lawyer recalled the day that changed their lives.
.......
Webb and Yoshi knocked on the door but got no answer. They then saw a woman open the side garage door and peer out before abruptly slamming it in their faces. "We were walking away sort of confused, I had started to walk down the block wondering if it was a different house," Webb said. "But then someone opened the door - Rodney Peairs opened the door." Rodney Peairs, a 30-year-old supermarket butcher, was holding a .44 Magnum revolver. Yoshi turned back towards him. "He was very eager to get to the party and didn''''t understand, I guess, that [Peairs] had a gun. Maybe he thought it was a Halloween thing," Webb said. "He was light on his feet and just sang, in a very boisterous way, ''''We''''re here for the party! We''''re here for the party!'''' - sort of happy." Peairs shouted "Freeze!" but Yoshi seemed not to understand and kept moving forwards. Peairs fired once, hitting Yoshi in the chest, and slammed the door.
前提是门开着 里面看得见 这个可能是从里面射击的。
另外，每一个州法律不一样，具体情况也不一样。
怎么没威胁? 拳头可以打死人, 牙齿可以咬死人 击毙最安全
呃，说了半天，没有一个是亚裔踩草皮被打枪的但屋主被acquit的。 美国枪支泛滥，谁都知道。问题是你说的是“可以”开枪，给人的理解这么做是合法合理。这完全是以讹传讹。美国法律讲究的是reasonable response。 也就是说，如果一个reasonable person在屋主的情况下，是不是感觉到trespass的人是不是会对他造成bodily harm。 不是你说我害怕对方伤害我就可以的，陪审团会把他们放在同样情况下，来做一个reasonable person会做的决定。 楼主说的这个故事和一个邻居无意踩上草坪是完全不一样的情况。
你怎么知道对方是不是转身在口袋里掏武器？大家都是全知全能的上帝吗？
你这说法不被美国established 的 通识认可。 不持枪的人士远离你逃离时候没有威胁，是共识，而不是你的说法是共识
就好象你不能说谁瞅你你怀孕，所以任何看你一眼的男人都是强奸犯一样。这大家是不认可的
踩草坪是我agent的说法，并不一定是屋主的做法，只是提醒我们注意而已。
原来门都没破啊(⊙o⊙)
那威胁是什么呢?
别人没邀请你，就不要到别人家门口去，除非你是送快递。
好可怕。这个日本teenager也太可怜了
所以对jury来讲，这第一枪和第三枪是一样的，如果第一枪没毛病，第三枪也没有毛病。
这个太扯淡了。
比如你想问路, 刚一敲门就被击毙?
如果是入侵家里的话不需要retreat的这条
白同学打黄同学，也会无罪释放吧。
其实这种事允许持枪的州，每年到处都有，只是取决于屋主是朝你要害打，还是朝你边上打。
这家有监视器能看到外面的情况
要是门都没破, 威胁在哪?
你是一个长得帅气的白人男生或者漂亮金发女生，一般语气好点没事。 但是一个陌生的亚裔或者黑人，就不能保证不被击毙了。
硬闯别人房子时，就应该预料到这后果。
活下来，才能去ARGUE 是不是REASONABLE DEFENCE。
活不下来，管你ARGUE什么？ARGUE了有啥意义？毫无意义。
宁愿先开枪，之后上法庭来ARGUE，也绝不可能纵容这种强闯民宅的做法。
我贴了一个，就似乎日本留学生迷路了，敲门被杀的。 不过是90年代，现在随着亚裔越来越多，情况会好点。
但问题是，90年代的人都死光了吗？没有，依然有大量的人有同样的想法。
远水救不了近火。 这父女面临的是立即的，urgent的威胁。对方已经在撞门，威胁和危险是以秒计的。 对方能从其它地方追到这个洲，而且暴力硬闯，就表明了威胁的重大程度。
哪怕警察局就在隔壁（事实上不可能）， 哪怕等警察拿上枪5分钟后就来，这父女可能都只有尸体了。
除了开枪，自己保护自己，阻止对方硬闯，没其它选择。
撞门就杀人啊?
以前一直以为有人身威胁才能正当防卫
哈哈哈 最搞笑的留言，中国人命最值钱。🐍得好，对待那些BLM Antifa 也应该这样子
对方可能有枪啊，闯进门了就可以杀人了。
你家里和在外面是不同的。所以我说了，过了草坪，就不要去别人家惹事了。
不知道枪法就不要乱给建议。 放枪来作威胁是犯法的。
抬杠不是这么抬的，女的老爹在门内冲外开枪的时候，你猜他是看着门，还是看着监视器。
你去看看视频吧，那男的很用力撞门，等门撞破了被闯进来才开枪？傻叉才这么做吧。那男的被枪击后才转身跑开的。
事先不知道男的会撞门，报什么警察，女方肯定想不到男的会试图撞门；另外，女方父亲隔着门开了三枪，男的中了要害，死了认倒霉。女方家长在男的撞门的时候就警告好几次，让男的走人。。。
你这样做只是会给自己找麻烦。开枪之前一定要慎重考虑，但一旦是决定开抢了，那就不能手软。
哈哈，他就是个键盘侠。开枪瞬间还能确保不打要害？心慌意乱，自我保护情况下开枪，不误伤自己就阿弥陀佛了。
其实不应该隔着门开枪。 因为你不知道人在哪， 门后面远方有没站着其他人。
这种情绪有问题的人下次可能就拿枪来了 暴力撞门被打死我觉得不冤枉 而且女方们已经报警了
发现，很多同胞对杀人，都比较认同
本人认为这个不是正当防卫
城堡法案，好像没有说，你可以对一个
1）手无寸铁 2）逃跑中的人
开枪的
不过如果米国人不都care，who cares
事实上，亚洲人要比欧洲人凶残很多
比如云南贵州的中国人，又要比东南沿海的中国人，更加凶残
我理解我们州应该也是如果背后开枪的话，即使是STAND YOUR GROUND，HOUSE OWNER恐怕也会有责任。因为如果对方已经要离开了，那就不能说还对你构成威胁了啊。
当年911事件，发现某国涉案
一时间，国内各种媒体都，铺天盖地报道，直呼某国后果不堪设想
所谓某国后果不堪设想云云者，就是你搞了我，我的报复一定是雷霆万钧，比如屠城之类的
这代表了亚洲人的思维，结果啥都没有发生
LOL
说了1000遍了， 不要以为手无寸铁就没伤害性。 一个男的可以一拳把女人，老人打死或打晕， 或一脚踢翻。 手无寸铁绝对绝对不能用来做理由。 对警察可以用那理由， 因为警察有其他武力。
男的倒地后，父女袖手旁观，就是想watch him die， 利用这次"正当防卫"永久的解决这个麻烦。
考持枪证要求的都是打body mass，然后掏枪的目的是neutralize the threat，你觉得呢
别人如果也有枪，你放枪警告就是找死。不打算开枪就不能掏枪。