NASA chief Jim Bridenstine won't stay on under new president FROM CNN BUSINESS Pelosi floats above Democrats’ civil war Progressives and centrists blame each other for House losses — allowing the speaker to avoid any challenges. FROM POLITICO CONGRESS 握手梅姐姐。喜欢你关于意大利的疫情照片儿。 妹子们Google以上标题和杂志出处，目前最新情况之一。出处都是大家常看的所谓的左媒。 有兴趣的可以去时事版块。 别嚷嚷了哦。
NASA chief Jim Bridenstine won't stay on under new president FROM CNN BUSINESS Pelosi floats above Democrats’ civil war Progressives and centrists blame each other for House losses — allowing the speaker to avoid any challenges. FROM POLITICO CONGRESS 握手梅姐姐。喜欢你关于意大利的疫情照片儿。 妹子们Google以上标题和杂志出处，目前最新情况之一。出处都是大家常看的所谓的左媒。 有兴趣的可以去时事版块。 别嚷嚷了哦。
回复 905楼Wanfeiche的帖子 简单的说吧 所有的审讯技巧在interview 和 interrogation 里都可以通用。 Intrerview 和 interrogation 唯一区别是 the suspect being interrogated is not free to leave. a witness being interviewed is free to leave.
川粉挺好的 你查一下定义 意思就是 A fan, aficionado, or supporter is someone who has an intense, occasionally overwhelming liking and enthusiasm for a sporting club, person, group of persons, or trend. 没贬义。 挺客观的。
川粉挺好的 你查一下定义 意思就是 A fan, aficionado, or supporter is someone who has an intense, occasionally overwhelming liking and enthusiasm for a sporting club, person, group of persons, or trend. 没贬义。 挺客观的。
笑了，我说你孺子可教，真没说错。自从我说你不敬业之后，你的回帖质量大大提升。 这种清单，在这里列了也没用。因为只要有人有组织来提供这样一种职业，给需要工作的人提供这样一种生计的方式，在这个非实名的网络论坛，从理论上讲，只要这种职业存在，这个名单就是无穷无尽。 列这种清单，反而会误伤真诚讨论的id，再制造一轮混乱的群殴。美国宪法第一修正案中的言论自由，就是允许各种各样的声音，最大程度地保护人们表达政治观点——尤其是人们批评政府，对政府职能加以监督的权力。这也是为什么美国的政府，是we the people的政府。所以，在这里，每一个人的言论自由，即使带任务来的，在没有证据证明他是政府agency的时候，你们都受到保护。
WED NOV 11, 2020 / 7:01 PM EST Snell & Wilmer withdraws from election lawsuit as Trump contests Arizona results David Thomas The largest law firm representing the Trump campaign or its allies in post-election litigation challenging votes in key states has withdrawn from an election lawsuit in Maricopa County, Arizona.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-michigan-election-lawsuit-poll-watchers-social-distancing-complaints-2020-11 密歇根川普团队诉讼的进展。 只有affidavit。 有人说社交距离６尺看不清。有人人说很难看清，但却发现作弊，还有觉得不够近到可以质疑。有人觉得自己看唱票的站的６尺远，但是点票的人却没有相互保持社交距离。还有人觉得保持社会距离和戴口罩引起自己警觉的。 下一步不知道是不是有人要做affidavit ，记录工作人员穿多了衣服可能会偷票，衣服尺码大了可能会作弊，没有进出称体重，可能会偷票。来看看什么叫真正的乌合之众。 The 342-page complaint includes dozens of affidavits from election workers working with the Trump campaign and Republican Party. Of those people who signed affidavits, 14 complained about the 6-foot rule, saying it was too far for them to properly observe ballot processing. Three other people who signed affidavits for the lawsuit — Jeffrey Moss, Erik Duus, and Jeremy McCall — said they were asked to stand 6 feet away from election workers, but they did not say the distance prevented them from properly observing anything and suggested they were able to view irregularities from a distance. Another person, Randall S. Champagne, said staying 6 feet away made it difficult for him to observe but that he saw irregularities anyway and wasn't close enough to formally challenge them. Marc Russell, another poll challenger, signed an affidavit saying he was told to stand 6 feet away from people but that the workers counting ballots were not. He didn't say what problem he had with standing 6 feet apart from others. Angela Marie Eilf testified in her affidavit that she was told she'd have to keep 6 feet of distance from others and properly wear a mask. She said she was "immediately concerned by these instructions" but did not say why. Her affidavit didn't list any problems with the ballot-counting process. One person, Mindi Tietz, alleged she was told she needed to stand 20 feet away from the people counting ballots.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-michigan-election-lawsuit-poll-watchers-social-distancing-complaints-2020-11 密歇根川普团队诉讼的进展。 只有affidavit。 有人说社交距离６尺看不清。有人人说很难看清，但却发现作弊，还有觉得不够近到可以质疑。有人觉得自己看唱票的站的６尺远，但是点票的人却没有相互保持社交距离。还有人觉得保持社会距离和戴口罩引起自己警觉的。 下一步不知道是不是有人要做affidavit ，记录工作人员穿多了衣服可能会偷票，衣服尺码大了可能会作弊，没有进出称体重，可能会偷票。来看看什么叫真正的乌合之众。 The 342-page complaint includes dozens of affidavits from election workers working with the Trump campaign and Republican Party. Of those people who signed affidavits, 14 complained about the 6-foot rule, saying it was too far for them to properly observe ballot processing. Three other people who signed affidavits for the lawsuit — Jeffrey Moss, Erik Duus, and Jeremy McCall — said they were asked to stand 6 feet away from election workers, but they did not say the distance prevented them from properly observing anything and suggested they were able to view irregularities from a distance. Another person, Randall S. Champagne, said staying 6 feet away made it difficult for him to observe but that he saw irregularities anyway and wasn't close enough to formally challenge them. Marc Russell, another poll challenger, signed an affidavit saying he was told to stand 6 feet away from people but that the workers counting ballots were not. He didn't say what problem he had with standing 6 feet apart from others. Angela Marie Eilf testified in her affidavit that she was told she'd have to keep 6 feet of distance from others and properly wear a mask. She said she was "immediately concerned by these instructions" but did not say why. Her affidavit didn't list any problems with the ballot-counting process. One person, Mindi Tietz, alleged she was told she needed to stand 20 feet away from the people counting ballots.
所以让你去读15-18页啊，那几页是主要的allegation argument。那几页英文也不难，在美国念过书的人都应该能看懂大概是怎么回事。 另外，那个三百页的文件不是affidavit，这是一个完整的法律诉讼文书，就是原告方提交法庭那种。而且，这个诉讼状，已经是直接提交密西根的联邦法院了。是要求密西根州停止certify现在的票数，请求法庭在certify之前，允许查验，确定有效选票，toss out 无效票。
I witnessed election workers open ballots with Donald Trump votes and respond by rolling their eyes and showing it to other poll workers , I believe some of these ballots may not have been properly counted.
I witnessed election workers open ballots with Donald Trump votes and respond by rolling their eyes and showing it to other poll workers , I believe some of these ballots may not have been properly counted.
Michigan的lawsuit输了。 O(∩_∩)O。。。。 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/michigan-officials-say-trump-campaign-claim-of-dead-voter-is-false/ar-BB1aWVRq?ocid=uxbndlbing Michigan officials say Trump campaign claim of 'dead' voter is false A lawsuit filed by the Trump campaign attempting to stop Michigan from certifying its final vote count included a false claim that a dead person cast a ballot, according to state election officials. The complaint, which was filed Tuesday and targets the Democratic stronghold of Wayne County and Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson (D), contains affidavits that allege irregularities in the tabulation of votes. One of those affidavits is from a woman named Anita Chase, who claimed she reviewed state records showing her deceased son had cast ballots in 2016 and 2020. However, a spokesperson for Benson's office said the affidavit appears to reflect a case of mistaken identity. Tracy Wimmer told Bridge Michigan, a nonprofit news outlet in the state, that the confusion stems from several Michiganders having "common names." The voter registration for Mark D. Chase, who was listed as living at the same address as his mother, was cancelled in 2016. According to state records, he last voted in 2014 and was born in 1978. Those records appear to reflect the obituary available online for Mark Chase, who died in July 2016, according to the outlet. There are currently two other people named Mark D. Chase who are listed on Michigan's Qualified Voter File, according to Wimmer. Both were born in different years than Anita Chase's son and live in different parts of the state, Wimmer added. There is a Mark D. Chase is Ottawa County who is an active voter, and a Mark D. Chase in Barry County who has no recent voting history, he said. Anita Chase wrote in her affidavit that her son would be 42 years old if he were still alive today. According to Bridge Michigan, there is no listing in a recent copy of the Qualified Voter File for a Mark D. Chase born in 1978. The Hill has reached out to the Trump campaign for comment. Trump's campaign and his supporters have made sweeping and unsubstantiated claims that Democrats want to count ballots from deceased voters in Michigan. Bridge Michigan tracked down several Michigan voters who are very much alive and clarified how many of the accusations have been triggered by isolated data or technical errors. The lawsuit is the second legal challenge filed in Michigan from the president's legal team. The campaign had previously filed a similar lawsuit in Michigan claims court, where a judge rejected its request. AdChoices Observers claim in the affidavits that they were unable to get close enough to watch votes being tabulated and claim Republican observers were improperly harassed. The lawsuit has little chance of swaying the outcome in a state where President-elect Joe Biden beat Trump by roughly 145,000 votes. Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel (D) on Wednesday accused Trump and his campaign of lacking faith in Black voters in their lawsuits against the state questioning the legitimacy of the election results. "Really the themes that we see, that persist, are this: Black people are corrupt, Black people are incompetent and Black people can't be trusted. That's the narrative that is continually espoused by the Trump campaign and their allies in these lawsuits," Nessel said during a call with reporters, according to the Detroit Free Press The Trump campaign has also filed legal challenges in Georgia, Pennsylvania and Michigan since Election Day, and it has said it will pursue a recount in Wisconsin.
NASA chief Jim Bridenstine won't stay on under new president FROM CNN BUSINESS
Pelosi floats above Democrats’ civil war Progressives and centrists blame each other for House losses — allowing the speaker to avoid any challenges. FROM POLITICO CONGRESS
握手梅姐姐。喜欢你关于意大利的疫情照片儿。
妹子们Google以上标题和杂志出处，目前最新情况之一。出处都是大家常看的所谓的左媒。
有兴趣的可以去时事版块。
别嚷嚷了哦。
川粉如丧家之犬 阵阵哀嚎
Reid technique of interviewing and interrogation了解一下？ 亚马逊上有卖。美国警方标准流程好吗。
警察如果说“不是我吓你啊....其实也算吓你吧....我是联邦探员,你跟我说谎你要坐牢的”， 算不算威胁？ 当然是威胁。 威胁难道不是警方办案的标准手段之一吗。
看错您了，梅姐， 怎么没有点儿大英帝国的风度？ 可惜可惜。 女人爆粗口 就是大妈了。
哈哈哈，太搞笑了，版上川粉天天开黄腔的时候也没见几个圣母出来指责啊，梅干菜相比之下不要太文明了
“川粉”是粗口吗？ 对自己的名号这么没有自信？
你怎么不用原来的大衣了哈哈
就那招摇撞骗的高仿号大衣，不用算他进步啊
你大衣脏话连篇给人私信的截图还在意见版挂着呢，怎么这么搞笑！
请出示我原来大衣？ 我是转载你们一直转载的媒体文章，各位读不懂？ 我是川粉？请出示证据？ 如果以上都不成立，我能说你们不仅无知，而且卑劣。
看错你了，你怎么爆粗口呢？！
请让我看看你们所谓的我的大衣脏话给私人的截图
请版主来证实。
对不起 你眼睛没有长好 我其实觉得您挺可怜的啊 每天有那么多时间 翻每个人信息 可惜您真找错人了 我和医院没有半点关系
既然那么有兴趣看对方过往资料 不如彻底看看 我是不是您说的这个 反正您有的是时间
不过，我真心觉得 你挺可怜
我觉得有人对粗口真是双标。“丧家之犬”出于别人之口就是粗口。出于自己之口，各种生殖器，各种强奸术语都不算粗口。
如果我没理解错，这个是用来审嫌疑犯的，用在证人身上有出处吗？
梅姐姐不是自称来自大英帝国 看看丧家之犬 在英语里 是不是骂人的
在说一遍 说我是川粉 请拿出证据
无知和卑劣 在哪个国的语言 是粗口
说你无知和卑劣 就凭你的回复 你自己就妥妥 把两词又演示了一遍
我都有印象你是川粉 你们先拿出vote fraud的证据吧 还要人拿出你是川粉的证据，拿出怎样不拿又怎样，does it matter to anyone?
精神崩溃的边缘，看了感觉真可怜😂
不需要我普及的常识
原告提起诉讼 原告需要出示证据
那么在这个大前提下 要求 川普团队拿出证据VOTE FRAUD 没有错
那么 你说我是川粉， 怎么就是一句话 我有印象你是川粉 你的证据就是你的印象？ 那这个逻辑是？
最后你说的 拿不出怎样 不拿又怎样 这又是啥逻辑？
希望你有这个智商 理解我的推论
Trump Encourages People in North Carolina to Vote Twice, Which Is Illegal
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/-trump-supporter-arrested-voter-fraud-pennsylvania_n_5f91e43ec5b61c185f4848de
Trump Supporter Arrested For Requesting Absentee Ballot For Dead Mother
你当然理解错了
看看书名吗
interviewing and interrogation
你说interrogation仅用于嫌犯 我可以理解 你如果非要说interviewing 也只能用于嫌犯 那我只能呵呵了
你如果有时间把书买来或者借来读读 你可以看到里面有对witness interview流程和技巧详细描述. 而且还说witness也可以随时变成suspect。
比如说这个人邮政员工就可以被当成perjury的suspect来interrogate。
骂人不等于粗口哦
骂人不带脏字的文明人很多的。
这本书有怎么教你把证人证词说成是证人说谎？厉害。不愧是西太后门下的。
你吓坏了吧 国家机器不是你可以随便欺骗的
这个话就没水平了 shithole也好 $1房子也好 不影响这个地区居民的政治权力 你也不能说因为经济不好 这个地区的人和机构都说谎
Calm down you are a nobody you don’t matter 没人要告你是川粉 和750 file那么多没有证据的lawsuits是两回事 你说哪个情景更需要拿证据呢 是谁智商着急哟
简单的说吧 所有的审讯技巧在interview 和 interrogation 里都可以通用。
Intrerview 和 interrogation 唯一区别是
the suspect being interrogated is not free to leave. a witness being interviewed is free to leave.
我有什么可吓坏的，500万注册800万票又不是我编辑出来的，也不是我去投的。
你造谣吓坏了呗
😂 🤣🤣🤣🤣 正好有空
还有，这副嘴脸不就是他们的祖宗白等最擅长的吗？辩论也能用上太监脸，实在是下贱惯了吧。 那天看到了实在是恶心的很。他应该去装副好点的假牙了。
她是一个专门挤兑非川粉的中立派。 这是她自己打造的金字招牌 她是一个造谣完了就跑的律政从业人员 这是她展示的道德和专业资质。
当然也同意你第一句。
我期待着她用更多人身攻击的词汇回击异见者 同时用半真半假的法律知识夹带私货 显然某些人穷途末路，只会这一招了。
你吓得满嘴胡话了啊。其实呢你不用太担心, 国家机器没时间来管你这种小范围影响的造谣者。
问个正好提到的。大英帝国最擅长就是阴招吧。 到处埋“地雷”。 这种表面绅士，背地阴损伤人的，居然有人呼唤。 果然 人与人虽然平等 但是 人格 真的有 高尚和卑劣之分。
是的 不少川粉喜欢扮中立 但自带风向 遇到不同意见马上着急开骂
你主要是吓坏了
你看到造谣者面对联邦探员立马土崩瓦解 你想到了自己造的谣也完了
对啊 川粉造谣太厉害了
我倒觉得，川粉，白粉，这样叫都不妥，我们只想知道真相，接受法官判定的事实，在分析贴里这样说话，实在有失公允
川粉挺好的 你查一下定义 意思就是 A fan, aficionado, or supporter is someone who has an intense, occasionally overwhelming liking and enthusiasm for a sporting club, person, group of persons, or trend. 没贬义。 挺客观的。
真相就是川普团队先认定自己输了就是对方作弊，然后开始悬赏找证据 这就是真相。
overwhelming 本身就是贬义大于褒义的一个词，加上liking，就代表基本是没必要的喜欢。 enthusiasm，含义可褒可贬。 trend，基本就是贬义了，跟风嘛。
跟白粉是挺符合，和这个帖子里的人没关系。我不过是最近比较空，否则也没时间来这里看猴子戏，还跟帖。
今天放假，冒个泡。
因为我们对人评价要公允，我哪里说过自己是中立派，或者标榜自己是律政从业人员了？我不再回复，是因为这楼里，很多不是为了讨论问题来提问题，没必要回复。华人网友的真实分辨力，要从这楼里沉默的大多数来判断。另外，我有自己的本职工作，又没人付钱给我专职守在论坛发帖，我的时间分配自然要以本职工作为先。
如果你觉得我的帖子客观中立，并且有专业律政从业人员的水准，实在是谬赞。辩论反方给出这样的评价，我很开心。我说我继续潜水，又没说我告别huaren再不回来。
不知道你什么意思 我和我朋友家人都大大方方的承认是某些名人的粉丝 乐队啊 游戏玩家啊 博主 政治人物啊
你非要把“粉丝”弄成一个贬义词我只能说我们说的不是同一种语言
你怎么从来不是医生护士科学家的粉丝啊？早就跟你说过跟风可褒可贬，你还特别show个段位这么low的，有意思么。
我也不知道为什么没你low呀
我朋友圈有张文宏的粉丝 这不是医生吗？
大多数医生科学家比较低调 不容易也不喜欢圈粉 不是很正常吗？
再说一次 你非要把“粉丝”弄成一个贬义词我只能说我们说的不是同一种语言
我说的是那个喜欢一行几个字，头像黑白的id. 你看看我回帖的那个id， 她是在和谁对话。
我明确说过你是本着不懂回去查的态度，但是其他人不像你。
怎么挺你的，你看不见，说别人的，你非要往自己身上揽。
哦，谢谢支持。。是我理解错了。。因为这楼里有任务来捣乱的太多了，至少两三位，跟反对意见者混在一起对网友进行个人立场攻击。
不过，你说的那位id，在我看来，是从事法律工作没错的。另外，人家可能真的就是不喜欢川普这个人，不支持民主党，也不支持川。知道自己不知道，是需要学习经验积累花时间的过程，就像孔子说的”知之为知之，不知为不知，是知也“，这里每个id后面的背景经验年龄都不一样，不能要求太高。
这里是一个公共论坛，有人发帖是出于兴趣探讨，有人发帖是出于情绪宣泄，有人发帖是出于政治任务。一旦话题从网友发言的具体内容，转向网友的个人立场和特征，就势必开始恶性循环，进入群殴状态，让真正有话想说的人不愿意参与，也不想发言了。这就达到了某些特定组组织干扰和压制海外华人言论自由的目的。
楼主如果不是太费时间的话你可以总结一下列个清单吗 ？比如说谁有带任务 谁只是单纯反对
这对大家来说， 都是个难题。 清单的事情 让我想起了某党的事情。
楼主本来是普及法律程序 现在 需要普及谁是带任务的 谁是反对的 谁是中间派 的标准 并且要拨乱反正
请妹子们 也捐个款 按小时 给楼主计费
楼主妹子 您提要求 一小时多少美刀 如果您愿意的话
先说明 我不捐款 我没有兴趣看这个清单
我穷 我捐一块
笑了，我说你孺子可教，真没说错。自从我说你不敬业之后，你的回帖质量大大提升。
这种清单，在这里列了也没用。因为只要有人有组织来提供这样一种职业，给需要工作的人提供这样一种生计的方式，在这个非实名的网络论坛，从理论上讲，只要这种职业存在，这个名单就是无穷无尽。
列这种清单，反而会误伤真诚讨论的id，再制造一轮混乱的群殴。美国宪法第一修正案中的言论自由，就是允许各种各样的声音，最大程度地保护人们表达政治观点——尤其是人们批评政府，对政府职能加以监督的权力。这也是为什么美国的政府，是we the people的政府。所以，在这里，每一个人的言论自由，即使带任务来的，在没有证据证明他是政府agency的时候，你们都受到保护。
列了清单也同样受到保护啊。 你列个清单也不具有公信力和公权力 只是你的个人意见 也没有人会对清单上不同类别的id做出分别对待是吧。 不存在任何压制言论自由的危害。 就是好奇。也没说要列很全面的清单。 当然你没时间就算了。
从事法律工作不一定，从事政治工作那是一定的嘛。政府组织的，就是从事政府工作啊。 哪个政府就不一定了。 天天说这个投票不是伪造那个不是伪造，看来伪造的经验是很多的。
WED NOV 11, 2020 / 7:01 PM EST Snell & Wilmer withdraws from election lawsuit as Trump contests Arizona results David Thomas
The largest law firm representing the Trump campaign or its allies in post-election litigation challenging votes in key states has withdrawn from an election lawsuit in Maricopa County, Arizona.
这是毫无疑问的。楼主明显已经相信拜登胜选是靠作弊，然后再去寻找证据，结果弄来些靠不住的东西
华人到底有什么价值，搞得跟兵家必争之地一样，还干扰压制海外华人言论自由？ 海外华人除了华人，没别的地方去了？
自诩中立懂法的人士，对川粉造谣暗暗鼓励，对辟谣贴明嘲暗讽。发言没有事实，从头到尾的不是造谣就是人身攻击。我要求不高，只要暴露这种又当又立，到处夹带私货的，就能净化讨论环境，鼓励真正的言论自由，而不是造谣攻击。
幸好楼主没悬赏收集证据
密歇根川普团队诉讼的进展。
只有affidavit。 有人说社交距离６尺看不清。有人人说很难看清，但却发现作弊，还有觉得不够近到可以质疑。有人觉得自己看唱票的站的６尺远，但是点票的人却没有相互保持社交距离。还有人觉得保持社会距离和戴口罩引起自己警觉的。 下一步不知道是不是有人要做affidavit ，记录工作人员穿多了衣服可能会偷票，衣服尺码大了可能会作弊，没有进出称体重，可能会偷票。来看看什么叫真正的乌合之众。
The 342-page complaint includes dozens of affidavits from election workers working with the Trump campaign and Republican Party. Of those people who signed affidavits, 14 complained about the 6-foot rule, saying it was too far for them to properly observe ballot processing.
Three other people who signed affidavits for the lawsuit — Jeffrey Moss, Erik Duus, and Jeremy McCall — said they were asked to stand 6 feet away from election workers, but they did not say the distance prevented them from properly observing anything and suggested they were able to view irregularities from a distance.
Another person, Randall S. Champagne, said staying 6 feet away made it difficult for him to observe but that he saw irregularities anyway and wasn't close enough to formally challenge them.
Marc Russell, another poll challenger, signed an affidavit saying he was told to stand 6 feet away from people but that the workers counting ballots were not. He didn't say what problem he had with standing 6 feet apart from others.
Angela Marie Eilf testified in her affidavit that she was told she'd have to keep 6 feet of distance from others and properly wear a mask. She said she was "immediately concerned by these instructions" but did not say why. Her affidavit didn't list any problems with the ballot-counting process.
One person, Mindi Tietz, alleged she was told she needed to stand 20 feet away from the people counting ballots.
最近关于“选举舞弊”和“假新闻”的信息刷爆了华人朋友圈，而这对华人母子却早已制造了一个非常非常大的假新闻骗了全世界，你什么时候会中招？
最近美国主流媒体NBC报道了一个案例，第一次报道说房客把房东逐出家门，第二次又说房客是想疫情期间不交房租，这两篇报道还在华人媒体圈引起轩然大波，大部分吃瓜群众都被蒙得晕头转向，直到被害者baiting Jiang把房东打人的证据、法庭记录以及房东一家撒谎的证据全部放在YouTube、Facebook等社交媒体上，大家才明白真相：原来是房东一家人骗了所有华人和NBC，目的就是为了报复房客举报了房东weixia Dong、Alex Yang违法建房、殴打拘禁骚扰房客Baiting Jiang的报复房客的行为，当然更重要的事是为了去gofoundme骗捐款(住别墅开豪车公然欺骗媒体骗捐款应该刷新了美国的记录了)。关于这个案例的详细情况大家可以用Google搜“baitingJiang 中文”查看相关事实。
这对母子不但公然欺骗美国主流媒体而且还雇佣水军到各个中文媒体发帖删帖一边倒地毁谤房客baiting Jiang，真是为了骗大众去gofoundme给他家捐款,用尽了心机。
今天我们重点谈谈这个案例的谋划主角Alax Yang，这个刚从Berkeley大学刚毕业的大学生一毕业就做了这么大一个假案，为了陷害诋毁一个多次受害的女子,自己的名声却臭了整个美国和华人圈。
据内部人士透露他的整个作案情节.首先,他找到某房东组织任职的某教授的妻子,先把某教授和在某房东组织任职的妻子骗了,然后找来记者摆拍，假装睡在车里过夜，假装拿着行李搬回去,然后再假装哭一下，哭的时候不敢正面对着镜头故意用手擦眼泪遮住自己，第一次NBC采访他时他就是这样做戏然后又骗媒体说是被房客赶出去的的.因为第一次采访时，房客baiting Jiang因为急着找房和就医没有接受媒体的采访，Alax Yang和其母亲weixia Dong就可以尽情表演了；等第二次采访时，因为房客有时间接受采访了，Alax Yang知道已经撒谎了，为了怕不被识破，就对记者说他母亲weixia Dong never never hit 房客,在铁的证据面前依然对着媒体大肆撒谎，大家可以搜索baiting Jiang看她提供的她母亲打人的证据。
Alax Yang这个刚从Berkeley大学刚毕业的高智商骗子就利用小聪明制造这么一个冤案，在毁了别人的同时也毁了自己，很多知情人怒不可遏，纷纷写信给Berkeley大学要求对其进行处罚并取消他的学位，更多的人写信给司法部门和移民局要求彻查整个案件，并对他们是如何移民到美国来的进行彻查，因为一家人可以对着美国主流媒体上撒谎制造冤案,那么他们应该在移民时也是编造一堆谎言骗了移民局才移民过来的。如果有更多知情者和正义人士写信给Berkeley大学、审理案件的法官、警察、移民局、NBC和gofoundme，阻止他们继续开着豪车住着别墅骗捐款，让正义和真相早点到来，还我们的社区和居住的国家一个公正、文明的未来。
如果没有这次选举舞弊案的争论，大多数吃瓜群众根本不知道世界上这么多假新闻，连主流媒体都充斥着这么多假新闻，我们都不知道该相信什么了。
一个假新闻可以毁灭一个人甚至一个国家，这个大家可以去翻翻历史，多少次战争、独裁和迫害是从制造假新闻开始的。
而这个从Berkeley大学刚毕业的大学生Alax Yang和其母亲weixia Dong制造的这个假新闻和冤案对被害人的伤害之巨大、对社会普通大众的欺骗性更是不可想象。如果让你捐款去打击假新闻，让大家生活在一个没有欺骗和迫害的世界，你愿意捐出多少钱或者你愿意做些什么？欢迎大家讨论。
想了解案件详情请搜索“baiting Jiang 中文”看YouTube 、Facebook提供的证据和Alax Yang和他母亲weixia Dong欺骗NBC制造的假新闻。
赞干货。除了这些早已MOOT的6 ft rule complaint, 有宣誓作证看到舞弊的吗？
谢谢找到最新进展的文件。：）川总的律师团队，果然厉害！这个速度和效率，大写地佩服。
我读这个business insider的新闻，是觉得它有很明显的bias的，它专门找出来affidavit里面无关紧要的细节来长篇大论，给人制造一种，这些人都是无中生有的印象，还搞了几个所谓的专家来支撑它的观点。
如果你去读complaint原文的15-18页，就能知道这些affidavit到底是说了些什么，提出哪些非常严重的可信度问题。悲哀的是，当媒体人发布这种文章的时候，他们不是没读懂，就是他们知道99%的读者并不会亲自去读一份三百页的诉讼档案来核实他们讲述故事的视角，所以故意这样写来引开读者的注意力，造势——让人以为这个官司必败无疑。
这儿没签名，那儿没签名之类的。
不过这么艰巨的任务，应该交给川粉这种民主卫道士来找。affidavit都在那儿，他们可以自己读，然后再来科普。
你说的很有道理，整个affidavit都在那儿，有需要的人可以自己去读。
再说一遍，楼主，我不是针对你。
我只是用同样的逻辑推理一下，这种情况也可能存在。是不是真的存在，我没有去证实。
感觉下边就象四季园艺那样糊弄老川，今天刷一个明天刷一个案子交上去，顺天时报内参说我们已经在N个州file M个案子了，We Will Win！因为经费紧张，交上去要赶紧撤诉，否则输了得赔对方诉讼费（对方准备太充分，价钱太高）。另外十万火急催川粉捐款，1000% Match！小字里是前几千块都是还债或者给RNC用不到诉讼上去
所以让你去读15-18页啊，那几页是主要的allegation argument。那几页英文也不难，在美国念过书的人都应该能看懂大概是怎么回事。 另外，那个三百页的文件不是affidavit，这是一个完整的法律诉讼文书，就是原告方提交法庭那种。而且，这个诉讼状，已经是直接提交密西根的联邦法院了。是要求密西根州停止certify现在的票数，请求法庭在certify之前，允许查验，确定有效选票，toss out 无效票。
现在大家关心的是观点吗？我还以为大家的焦点是证据。 律师的证据不支持自己观点，被法官驳回的不要太多。 我等着法官裁决，比川普律师的 allegation arguments 有分量和法律效率。
引用本版某人的话，急什么，等法院裁决啊。
你这个叙述重点好喜感。要求能说明啥，你还可以要求把月亮摘下呢。关键是你到底有啥证据。
这也在“证据”之列。律师起诉都这么任性的吗？
我还真回去又读了读。这也是证据……
还有１８页里提到一个Exhibit 2。浏览完整个起诉书，也没找到exhibit 2在哪儿。
赞认真研究的精神。
这是原告提出的论证，你提的这些很可能也会被辩方律师提出来反驳掉。所以在美国，认真负责的律师对一个案子可能有决定性的影响。朱利安尼和首页视频里面的sidney powell都是非常厉害的大律师，各地的官司应该也会打的满精彩的。我们吃瓜群众，学习读读法律文书很好，但是在法庭角逐上鹿死谁手，并不是我们能预测的。耐心等待。Exhibit可能是照片，图片，video，non-textual的证据，所以你在这个文件里看不到。
程序不合法就应该判选票作废。老川加油
我看到这段也乐了。陈述不到30页，附加二三百页证词。 后面一半还包含拉票过程的不规范，最大的收获是增加了选举相关知识。 这次选举躺赢的是包括这家在内的律师们。
已经抓了猪党很多人了。呵呵
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/michigan-officials-say-trump-campaign-claim-of-dead-voter-is-false/ar-BB1aWVRq?ocid=uxbndlbing
Michigan officials say Trump campaign claim of 'dead' voter is false A lawsuit filed by the Trump campaign attempting to stop Michigan from certifying its final vote count included a false claim that a dead person cast a ballot, according to state election officials.
The complaint, which was filed Tuesday and targets the Democratic stronghold of Wayne County and Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson (D), contains affidavits that allege irregularities in the tabulation of votes. One of those affidavits is from a woman named Anita Chase, who claimed she reviewed state records showing her deceased son had cast ballots in 2016 and 2020. However, a spokesperson for Benson's office said the affidavit appears to reflect a case of mistaken identity. Tracy Wimmer told Bridge Michigan, a nonprofit news outlet in the state, that the confusion stems from several Michiganders having "common names." The voter registration for Mark D. Chase, who was listed as living at the same address as his mother, was cancelled in 2016. According to state records, he last voted in 2014 and was born in 1978. Those records appear to reflect the obituary available online for Mark Chase, who died in July 2016, according to the outlet. There are currently two other people named Mark D. Chase who are listed on Michigan's Qualified Voter File, according to Wimmer. Both were born in different years than Anita Chase's son and live in different parts of the state, Wimmer added. There is a Mark D. Chase is Ottawa County who is an active voter, and a Mark D. Chase in Barry County who has no recent voting history, he said. Anita Chase wrote in her affidavit that her son would be 42 years old if he were still alive today. According to Bridge Michigan, there is no listing in a recent copy of the Qualified Voter File for a Mark D. Chase born in 1978. The Hill has reached out to the Trump campaign for comment. Trump's campaign and his supporters have made sweeping and unsubstantiated claims that Democrats want to count ballots from deceased voters in Michigan. Bridge Michigan tracked down several Michigan voters who are very much alive and clarified how many of the accusations have been triggered by isolated data or technical errors. The lawsuit is the second legal challenge filed in Michigan from the president's legal team. The campaign had previously filed a similar lawsuit in Michigan claims court, where a judge rejected its request.
AdChoices Observers claim in the affidavits that they were unable to get close enough to watch votes being tabulated and claim Republican observers were improperly harassed. The lawsuit has little chance of swaying the outcome in a state where President-elect Joe Biden beat Trump by roughly 145,000 votes. Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel (D) on Wednesday accused Trump and his campaign of lacking faith in Black voters in their lawsuits against the state questioning the legitimacy of the election results. "Really the themes that we see, that persist, are this: Black people are corrupt, Black people are incompetent and Black people can't be trusted. That's the narrative that is continually espoused by the Trump campaign and their allies in these lawsuits," Nessel said during a call with reporters, according to the Detroit Free Press The Trump campaign has also filed legal challenges in Georgia, Pennsylvania and Michigan since Election Day, and it has said it will pursue a recount in Wisconsin.
还有一个 Lin Wood , 他正在 GA 取证 他是 1996 Atlanta 爆炸案 被媒体portrait 成嫌犯Richard Jewell 的代理律师 同时也是WoPo, CNN 等Fake News 集体抹黑小红帽高中生Nicholas Sandmann 的代理律师， 这个案子已经settled 了， 陪了上亿 好像.
不要好像。具体赔了多少，都是不公开的。
很多分析都说，没赔什么钱。
不要迷信律师。David Boies（Theranos) 就是一个例子。事实胜于雄辩。
你的所谓 “很多分析， 没陪什么钱” 也可能还是来源于 Fake News的猜测 🤪 能告赢那些拥有话语权却不要节操的 Fake News 就是很大胜利、 不是吗？ ————— 人家说有 Voter Fraud Evidence 你说是假证据 人家说律师不错 你说不要迷信律师 人家说告赢了 你说没赔多少钱 不远的将来 会说 SCOUS 不会受理 判决不公 赢了又怎样只不过是钻法律空子 ....... Not Surprised!
CCTV 谎话连篇，所以我天天只看大纪元，真理掌握在我手中，哦耶✌。
不肯承认失败，一直找借口 justify reality 的一直是选举中输了的拜登，全世界都承认川普了，拜登还在打官司，真是 loser 。
天天玩这种文字游戏有意思么，任务在身也挺难的吧
为什么要轻易认输，觉得不公平就要争取自己的权益，这就是美国精神懂吗 当然你这种从来没见过公民权利是啥样的真的很难理解
不需要理解，我只要会扣帽子就行啊。
一旦自己不占理，我就立刻明示暗示对方是五毛，有任务在身，然后就可以阿q的觉得我胜利了。
嗯这种小trick真好使，可以翻来覆去地用
是吧。我就知道你喜欢，看你用的这么溜就知道，特别适合你。
说不剩几张票的 翻不了盘的，不用费劲跟帖argue了， 跟此处贴的内容没关系
总共就9000张把，没太大意义。而且后来都没去计算的。