H1- B的大变动大家不讨论吗??| Trump Admin Overhaul of H-1B 签证

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liviab
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-administration-announces-overhaul-of-h-1b-visa-program-11602017434?mod=djemalertNEWS&mod=breakingnews
Trump Administration Announces Overhaul of H-1B Visa Program Employers will be required to pay the high-skilled foreign workers significantly higher wages
WASHINGTON—The Trump administration announced an overhaul of the H-1B visa program for high-skilled foreign workers that will require employers to pay H-1B workers significantly higher wages, narrow the types of degrees that could qualify an applicant, and shorten the length of visas for certain contract workers.
The changes, introduced by the Departments of Labor and Homeland Security on Tuesday, will likely make it tougher to qualify for one of the coveted visas.
Ken Cuccinelli, the no. 2 official at DHS, said on a news conference call Tuesday that he expects that about one-third of H-1B visa applications would be rejected under the new set of rules.
Mr. Cuccinelli and Patrick Pizzella, the deputy secretary of Labor, said the changes were necessary to protect American workers, whom the administration believes are being undercut by foreign workers on H-1B visas who are paid lower wages to perform similar jobs.
“America’s immigration laws should put American workers first,” Mr. Pizzella said, pointing to what he described as insufficiently stringent wage requirements on foreign workers in the H-1B visa program. “The result is U.S. workers are being ousted from good-paying, middle-class jobs and being replaced by foreign workers,” he said.
The policy changes have been expected since 2017, when the administration first announced intentions to revamp the H-1B visa program. Even before these formal changes were announced, however, the Trump administration has tightened issuance of H-1B visas, rejecting 15.1% of applications in 2019 compared with 6.1% in 2016, according to figures from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.
The Labor Department’s wage-scale revision would significantly increase the required wages employers must pay their workers on H-1B visas. The requirements, which are set to take effect Thursday, are based on surveys of the range of salaries paid in particular professions.
Under the new rule, the required wage level for entry-level workers would rise to the 45th percentile of their profession’s distribution, from the current requirement of the 17th percentile. The requirement for the highest-skilled workers would rise to the 95th percentile, from the 67th percentile.
Because those required wage increases take effect this week, existing H-1B holders looking to renew their visas might not qualify unless their employers raise their salaries accordingly.
Write to Michelle Hackman at [email protected]

 

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A2DAN
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因为spill over是从排队时间最久的人开始发的
iheartnyc 发表于 2020-10-07 23:23

是的,大致是这样的,但还是会考虑中国申请者的需求而分一些名额。 所以eb2, eb3 大陆出生的还是10月前进了一些,也比印度人排期更靠前一些。EB1 中印就是齐头并进。
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A2DAN
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回复 381楼A2DAN的帖子
为啥给印度人这么多年前进?不给中国人?
千渔千寻 发表于 2020-10-07 23:22

14万总额的全球职业移民,7%的国别cap. 今年因为疫情,海外CP停了,这样中印以外的国家名额用不完,中印就有这些国家的更多余额吃了,以前每年也能吃到不少,所以中印每年都超过7%的额度。而印度人10多年的7倍华人H1B名额,这些人绝大多数应该想留在美国,于是僧多粥少,排期久。依照惯例,140 PD在前的先吃spill over而没有国别名额限制,移民局还是会考虑中国的申请者,会匀一些给中国,不完全给排期更久的印度人。此前的帖子更正一下:是印度EB3 前进5年多,而eb2 可以降级到eb3。反过来不行。
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-bulletin/2021/visa-bulletin-for-october-2020.html
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iheartnyc
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回复 381楼A2DAN的帖子
为啥给印度人这么多年前进?不给中国人?
千渔千寻 发表于 2020-10-07 23:22

因为spill over是从排队时间最久的人开始发的
千渔千寻
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回复 381楼A2DAN的帖子
为啥给印度人这么多年前进?不给中国人?
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A2DAN
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回复 352楼iheartnyc的帖子
问个事。
印度人的排期太长,十几年,拿到i140了,这期间第二次第三次H1B EXT要求被提高,他们base达不到13万+,是不是就要滚蛋啊?
这是好事啊。

千渔千寻 发表于 2020-10-07 19:03

恐怕让你部分失望,10月份的排期,印度人EB3 B表大进(EB2可以降级到EB3),从09年进到15年,而10月份的B表开放。40万左右140批准了的印度大军,估计能解决20万左右人的EAD卡,以后用EAD卡工作。这部分人不用H1B了。但此方案确实会堵住此后很大一部分印度国内学生走H1B进入。对中国学生,少部分不利,大部分学生我认为是利好。 

 

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_summerdays
这不挺好,不过今天大新闻太多。。我头疼=。= 看不过来了。。
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yaner11
Under the new rule, the required wage level for entry-level workers would rise to the 45th percentile of their profession’s distribution, from the current requirement of the 17th percentile. The requirement for the highest-skilled workers would rise to the 95th percentile, from the 67th percentile.

这意思是说,码工,教授啥的,必须是同行业 pay 的 top 5% 才行吗? 那大概只有几大公司,top university 才能雇 H1B 了。
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thymetime
有什么好的,提高工资要求,new grad更找不到工作了,真当人人都是码工了?
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yongnali
这不挺好,不过今天大新闻太多。。我头疼=。= 看不过来了。。
_summerdays 发表于 2020-10-06 17:25

你看这一句:
The changes, introduced by the Departments of Labor and Homeland Security on Tuesday, will likely make it tougher to qualify for one of the coveted visas.

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Namama
老套路,又来折腾合法移民了。。
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luckluck
这个政策对华人一点都不利好吧,长期搞下去对美国也是绝对有害的。
吴欣怡neinei
不是大家不想讨论,是在命都保证不了的情况下,就让他随意的折腾吧。
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lastunas
回复 1楼liviab的帖子
只准东欧名模移民🇺🇸
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okyes
滥用H1B的硬度三哥三妹才会慌,正经读书的不要怕,又不是野鸡大学挂靠身份的小刘,不用慌 本来就该提高工资标准要求,否则,五六万的H1B position,美国一抓一大把的人,根本不需要去搬运
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_summerdays
你看这一句:
The changes, introduced by the Departments of Labor and Homeland Security on Tuesday, will likely make it tougher to qualify for one of the coveted visas.


yongnali 发表于 2020-10-06 17:29

有数字嘛?对entry level 码农收入要求变成多少。。 主要我觉得他连任机会越来越小。。。就可劲蹦跶吧
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jiaru0099
Under the new rule, the required wage level for entry-level workers would rise to the 45th percentile of their profession’s distribution, from the current requirement of the 17th percentile. The requirement for the highest-skilled workers would rise to the 95th percentile, from the 67th percentile.

这意思是说,码工,教授啥的,必须是同行业 pay 的 top 5% 才行吗? 那大概只有几大公司,top university 才能雇 H1B 了。
yaner11 发表于 2020-10-06 17:27

几个大公司人也很多啊,5%可是太变态了
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nevergetlost
所以这次共和党上台合法移民倒霉,民主党上台非法移民得利,到底哪一个更好呢?
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squirrel40
the required wage level for entry-level workers would rise to the 45th percentile of their profession’s distribution, from the current requirement of the 17th percentile. The requirement for the highest-skilled workers would rise to the 95th percentile, from the 67th percentile. ---------------------------------------------------- 就是H1B的wage估计要从L2提高到L4的意思? H1B, F1都是最优质的合法移民来源了。 整起他们来真是又快又准啊。
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Alltrivi
就这样还有黄皮川轮说川渣只拦非法移民,川轮的脑子里装的估计都是shi
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jiaru0099
滥用H1B的硬度三哥三妹才会慌,正经读书的不要怕,又不是野鸡大学挂靠身份的小刘,不用慌 本来就该提高工资标准要求,否则,五六万的H1B position,美国一抓一大把的人,根本不需要去搬运
okyes 发表于 2020-10-06 17:33

纯粹放狗屁,要是要求到达行业5%你知道有多高么?马工到二十万三十万我一点儿都不惊讶
能给这么高的工资的只有东西海岸,其他地方的找不到工作不一样往这些地方挤破头!
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yangff
所以这次共和党上台合法移民倒霉,民主党上台非法移民得利,到底哪一个更好呢?
nevergetlost 发表于 2020-10-06 17:42

民主党上台合法移民不会不利吧,就是非法移民占便宜而已。也没见床破搞非法移民
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BeHappy78
纯粹放狗屁,要是要求到达行业5%你知道有多高么?马工到二十万三十万我一点儿都不惊讶
能给这么高的工资的只有东西海岸,其他地方的找不到工作不一样往这些地方挤破头!
jiaru0099 发表于 2020-10-06 17:43

那几乎不去弯曲就申请不到绿卡了?
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VivaLaVida
这对华人绝对是坏事啊。有多少人能优秀到让雇主愿意付出超出平常的工资?
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smzsmz
真是够呛
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_summerdays
看了一下这样要求湾区码农entry level base 13w左右 偏高,但是也差不多吧?
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Fanfuliao
我记得以前是同等工作招不到美国人,就可以招外国人。他这么搞,一种可能是低收入工作外包了。 合法移民越来越少,top 的人也不一定愿意移民了。按美国现在的教育质量,是要走下坡路的感觉。
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_summerdays
几个大公司人也很多啊,5%可是太变态了
jiaru0099 发表于 2020-10-06 17:38

没那么变态,我去一亩三分地研究了下,只要满足45%就可以申请了。。
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seattlemouse
Under the new rule, the required wage level for entry-level workers would rise to the 45th percentile of their profession’s distribution, from the current requirement of the 17th percentile. The requirement for the highest-skilled workers would rise to the 95th percentile, from the 67th percentile.

这意思是说,码工,教授啥的,必须是同行业 pay 的 top 5% 才行吗? 那大概只有几大公司,top university 才能雇 H1B 了。
yaner11 发表于 2020-10-06 17:27

码工,刚毕业是entry level.
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xqhbh
提高H1B的门槛,当然会减少滥竽充数的那部分人留下的概率,尤其是那占用了大部分名额的印度本土H1B申请人,这些人反对可以理解。 从另一方面讲,这也提高了真正符合条件的H1B申请人的获批概率,大部分老中F1应该在这个bucket里吧?
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seattlemouse
放狗屁的是粉毛你,5%是highest skill set,你哪只眼看到只有5%才能申请H1B了?廊庑初中没毕业,连英语都看不懂就来带风向
120ParkAve 发表于 2020-10-06 17:54

哈哈 👍
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Cybercat
我记得以前是同等工作招不到美国人,就可以招外国人。他这么搞,一种可能是低收入工作外包了。 合法移民越来越少,top 的人也不一定愿意移民了。按美国现在的教育质量,是要走下坡路的感觉。

Fanfuliao 发表于 2020-10-06 17:48

办签证太麻烦,能外包的都会外包而不是雇美国人。我们组中等城市一个senior analyst, 给办了H1-B 然后办绿卡,律师说9万的工资不够,要给加薪到10万多好像,我们肯定给加了因为知道她办绿卡不容易。但其实那个办公室组里其他的美国人3年经验的还没10万呢。反正这两年H1-B 和绿卡都麻烦,我们大老板已经放话要加强外包,美国本地的职位一再压缩了。
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hercyna
看了一下这样要求湾区码农entry level base 13w左右 偏高,但是也差不多吧?

_summerdays 发表于 2020-10-06 17:48

所以湾区房价还要疯涨?其他地方的码农也不用去了
肉圆子
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-administration-announces-overhaul-of-h-1b-visa-program-11602017434?mod=djemalertNEWS&mod=breakingnews
Trump Administration Announces Overhaul of H-1B Visa Program Employers will be required to pay the high-skilled foreign workers significantly higher wages
WASHINGTON—The Trump administration announced an overhaul of the H-1B visa program for high-skilled foreign workers that will require employers to pay H-1B workers significantly higher wages, narrow the types of degrees that could qualify an applicant, and shorten the length of visas for certain contract workers.
The changes, introduced by the Departments of Labor and Homeland Security on Tuesday, will likely make it tougher to qualify for one of the coveted visas.
Ken Cuccinelli, the no. 2 official at DHS, said on a news conference call Tuesday that he expects that about one-third of H-1B visa applications would be rejected under the new set of rules.
Mr. Cuccinelli and Patrick Pizzella, the deputy secretary of Labor, said the changes were necessary to protect American workers, whom the administration believes are being undercut by foreign workers on H-1B visas who are paid lower wages to perform similar jobs.
“America’s immigration laws should put American workers first,” Mr. Pizzella said, pointing to what he described as insufficiently stringent wage requirements on foreign workers in the H-1B visa program. “The result is U.S. workers are being ousted from good-paying, middle-class jobs and being replaced by foreign workers,” he said.
The policy changes have been expected since 2017, when the administration first announced intentions to revamp the H-1B visa program. Even before these formal changes were announced, however, the Trump administration has tightened issuance of H-1B visas, rejecting 15.1% of applications in 2019 compared with 6.1% in 2016, according to figures from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.
The Labor Department’s wage-scale revision would significantly increase the required wages employers must pay their workers on H-1B visas. The requirements, which are set to take effect Thursday, are based on surveys of the range of salaries paid in particular professions.
Under the new rule, the required wage level for entry-level workers would rise to the 45th percentile of their profession’s distribution, from the current requirement of the 17th percentile. The requirement for the highest-skilled workers would rise to the 95th percentile, from the 67th percentile.
Because those required wage increases take effect this week, existing H-1B holders looking to renew their visas might not qualify unless their employers raise their salaries accordingly.
Write to Michelle Hackman at [email protected]


liviab 发表于 2020-10-06 17:22

估计很多人高兴呢。没人跟他们抢工作了。
我没记错的话,Trump 16年打动很多华人的是End Illegal Immigration,End Chain Immigration。
4年过去了。打击Chain和Illegal不知道执行的怎么样了。有人知道的说说?
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icespar
完了,大学除了工科、法学院商学院,其他系都招不到外籍faculty了。 美国现在最拿得出手的一个是IT,一个是大学教育。没有那么多精英移民撑着,大学含金量会连年下降,家里ABC费那么半天劲考的文凭会越来越不值钱。 别天天盯着印度人了,这简直是个玉石俱焚的政令
肉圆子
完了,大学除了工科、法学院商学院,其他系都招不了人了。
icespar 发表于 2020-10-06 18:01

我觉得只有工科,留下来的概率才会比较大。

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hercyna
从这个link看中位数大概10万 https://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/software-developer Software Developers made a median salary of $103,620 in 2018. The best-paid 25 percent made $130,460 that year, while the lowest-paid 25 percent made $79,340
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Strawberry99
这对华人绝对是坏事啊。有多少人能优秀到让雇主愿意付出超出平常的工资?
VivaLaVida 发表于 2020-10-06 17:46

关键是现在要么就给公民干活,security原因; 不在乎保密的完全可以外包或者oversea遥控啊。没什么必须要普通F1 Opt留下来给5%工资的
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hahahapapapa
估计很多人高兴呢。没人跟他们抢工作了。
我没记错的话,Trump 16年打动很多华人的是End Illegal Immigration,End Chain Immigration。
4年过去了。打击Chain和Illegal不知道执行的怎么样了。有人知道的说说?
肉圆子 发表于 2020-10-06 18:01

4个月过去了,老船长挖空心思搞了一堆弄合法移民高科技移民甚至买菜聊天华人老百姓的eo,
当然啦,多亏美国是法治社会三权分立,大多数eo都被否决或pending了
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_summerdays
所以湾区房价还要疯涨?其他地方的码农也不用去了
hercyna 发表于 2020-10-06 17:59

每个地区不一样,其他地区的要求低很多。这个wage要求是跟地区走的
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tuolingphecd
完了,大学除了工科、法学院商学院,其他系都招不到外籍faculty了。 美国现在最拿得出手的一个是IT,一个是大学教育。没有那么多精英移民撑着,大学含金量会连年下降,家里ABC费那么半天劲考的文凭会越来越不值钱。 别天天盯着印度人了,这简直是个玉石俱焚的政令
icespar 发表于 2020-10-06 18:01

我专门去那个link看了,标准工资对于professor是分专业的,换句话说文理科professor的工资标准和商学院法学院工学院不一样的
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hahahapapapa
关键是现在要么就给公民干活,security原因; 不在乎保密的完全可以外包或者oversea遥控啊。没什么必须要普通F1 Opt留下来给5%工资的
Strawberry99 发表于 2020-10-06 18:06

你这是在唱衰美国的立国之本
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kingcythia
如果华人选Trump是为了对付非移和老印,那就相当于杀敌八百,自损一万。
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_summerdays
我专门去那个link看了,标准工资对于professor是分专业的,换句话说文理科professor的工资标准和商学院法学院工学院不一样的
tuolingphecd 发表于 2020-10-06 18:10

也会区分地区,不过看一亩三分地里有人贴律师回复了,说肯定会法庭见,blocked= .= 所以说到底还是瞎蹦哒,搅浑水
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EdwardVIII
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-administration-announces-overhaul-of-h-1b-visa-program-11602017434?mod=djemalertNEWS&mod=breakingnews
Trump Administration Announces Overhaul of H-1B Visa Program Employers will be required to pay the high-skilled foreign workers significantly higher wages
WASHINGTON—The Trump administration announced an overhaul of the H-1B visa program for high-skilled foreign workers that will require employers to pay H-1B workers significantly higher wages, narrow the types of degrees that could qualify an applicant, and shorten the length of visas for certain contract workers.
The changes, introduced by the Departments of Labor and Homeland Security on Tuesday, will likely make it tougher to qualify for one of the coveted visas.
Ken Cuccinelli, the no. 2 official at DHS, said on a news conference call Tuesday that he expects that about one-third of H-1B visa applications would be rejected under the new set of rules.
Mr. Cuccinelli and Patrick Pizzella, the deputy secretary of Labor, said the changes were necessary to protect American workers, whom the administration believes are being undercut by foreign workers on H-1B visas who are paid lower wages to perform similar jobs.
“America’s immigration laws should put American workers first,” Mr. Pizzella said, pointing to what he described as insufficiently stringent wage requirements on foreign workers in the H-1B visa program. “The result is U.S. workers are being ousted from good-paying, middle-class jobs and being replaced by foreign workers,” he said.
The policy changes have been expected since 2017, when the administration first announced intentions to revamp the H-1B visa program. Even before these formal changes were announced, however, the Trump administration has tightened issuance of H-1B visas, rejecting 15.1% of applications in 2019 compared with 6.1% in 2016, according to figures from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.
The Labor Department’s wage-scale revision would significantly increase the required wages employers must pay their workers on H-1B visas. The requirements, which are set to take effect Thursday, are based on surveys of the range of salaries paid in particular professions.
Under the new rule, the required wage level for entry-level workers would rise to the 45th percentile of their profession’s distribution, from the current requirement of the 17th percentile. The requirement for the highest-skilled workers would rise to the 95th percentile, from the 67th percentile.
Because those required wage increases take effect this week, existing H-1B holders looking to renew their visas might not qualify unless their employers raise their salaries accordingly.
Write to Michelle Hackman at [email protected]


liviab 发表于 2020-10-06 17:22

誰都知道H1B就是廉價勞動力的代名詞,調高要求只會把垃圾過濾掉,老中職業移民都是高智商高學歷用EB1申請綠卡的,這些反對的就是爲了反川而反的吧。
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trdxyc
这样的规定,只会促使美国的劳动力成本继续升高,公司将更多入门级工作岗位转到海外。完全背离在美国创造工作机会的愿望,真是蠢到了极点。
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sunny988
誰都知道H1B就是廉價勞動力的代名詞,調高要求只會把垃圾過濾掉,老中職業移民都是高智商高學歷用EB1申請綠卡的,這些反對的就是爲了反川而反的吧。

EdwardVIII 发表于 2020-10-06 18:16

难道你不是当初的H1B之一?如果不是,那你要么是靠嫁人要么就是拿政屁的
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keluoyi
这对华人绝对是坏事啊。有多少人能优秀到让雇主愿意付出超出平常的工资?
VivaLaVida 发表于 2020-10-06 17:46

还真有。不一定要优秀,只要招不到符合条件的美国人就不得不招外国人啊。我们公司老总很小气,本来不愿意花钱给员工办H1B,所以他要求HR只招不要求sponsorship的;结果HR说“it's mission impossible. For the job requirements and the amount you pay, we have to recruit international”,所以尽管老总心疼钱,还是不得不招H1B。这是HR亲口给我八卦的。对了,我们公司同等职位,H1B的工资还比美国人稍微高一点,因为办身份有薪水要求:)
千渔千寻
回复 1楼liviab的帖子
苦了卖房子,火坑博士攒钱多年,转专业读cs master的筒子们了。
原来(奥巴马)马桶掌权的时候,是差满多的专业都可以申请IT的h1。后来川普上来,只能是有cs学位的才可以申请了。ee的干IT工,H1审批都只能看高中白大妈黑大妈心情。前两年,me,math,material,phy的stem转码的路子被堵死,一般筒子们哭死。
现在即使cs科班的筒子在东西海岸,lvl1没有个12+万,h1都下不来了。
川普真是我们us person的贴心人啊。办事总是大喜过望,把我们绿卡的f2a弄成了current。h1再赶走一大半。我们的cs岗位更安全了,准备找老板要求加薪去。
欧耶!差一年就可以入籍了,赶不上今年大选,2022中期选举准备投票支持川普和共和党。2024年准备支持伊万卡参选。
好日无边啊。



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iheartnyc
大家难道不知道H1每年8万5名额有30万人抽签吗?这个rule只不过是把random抽签改成了选工资高的而已,并不会减少人数,而且工资够线的人也不止8万5。不同职业和地区的工资标准也不同,不存在都给了马公的问题。
千渔千寻
回复 27楼Cybercat的帖子
统计口?这工资水平不错了
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yaner11
大家难道不知道H1每年8万5名额有30万人抽签吗?这个rule只不过是把random抽签改成了选工资高的而已,并不会减少人数,而且工资够线的人也不止8万5。不同职业和地区的工资标准也不同,不存在都给了马公的问题。
iheartnyc 发表于 2020-10-06 18:24

当然不存在都给了码工的问题。 但是,而是说,任何一个行业中,只有大公司, top university 才能付得起这样工资了。
小公司,小 university 要么付高工资请 H1b, 要么降低要求找本地人。。。。。大多数大概只能降低要求了。
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squirrel40
大家难道不知道H1每年8万5名额有30万人抽签吗?这个rule只不过是把random抽签改成了选工资高的而已,并不会减少人数,而且工资够线的人也不止8万5。不同职业和地区的工资标准也不同,不存在都给了马公的问题。
iheartnyc 发表于 2020-10-06 18:24

这只是H1B新增的。 事实上还有很多非营利的H1b, H1b续签和transfer的。
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hahahapapapa
也会区分地区,不过看一亩三分地里有人贴律师回复了,说肯定会法庭见,blocked= .= 所以说到底还是瞎蹦哒,搅浑水
_summerdays 发表于 2020-10-06 18:12

re,尤其今年,老川唤醒了好多人的法律意识,也让大家认识到了美国民主社会的制度优越性,不少今年的eo都被法官否了,连h4 按指纹我都看见有诉状上去了。在美国总统不靠谱,大家就是可以维权,气死独裁者的粉丝们!
川普那些幺蛾子,川粉再怎么山呼万岁,都没用
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chali1234
大家难道不知道H1每年8万5名额有30万人抽签吗?这个rule只不过是把random抽签改成了选工资高的而已,并不会减少人数,而且工资够线的人也不止8万5。不同职业和地区的工资标准也不同,不存在都给了马公的问题。
iheartnyc 发表于 2020-10-06 18:24

The DHS rule will affect over one-third of H-1B petitions. Although that does not mean an automatic rejection of the petitions, the “vast majority of them will in fact be rejected just as a statistical matter,” according to a senior department official.

re. 提高工资线影响1/3的人,去年是28万人申请抽签,提高工资后还有近20万人符合申请标准。还远远多于8万5千名额
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zejuanxiaoyu
纯粹放狗屁,要是要求到达行业5%你知道有多高么?马工到二十万三十万我一点儿都不惊讶
能给这么高的工资的只有东西海岸,其他地方的找不到工作不一样往这些地方挤破头!
jiaru0099 发表于 2020-10-06 17:43

wage是按地区 行业 都有不同标准的 东西海岸的工资h1b要求高 而且只算base部分 不算股票 你说的都是tc不是base
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zejuanxiaoyu
这只是H1B新增的。 事实上还有很多非营利的H1b, H1b续签和transfer的。
squirrel40 发表于 2020-10-06 18:37

那些不占抽签名额吧
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zejuanxiaoyu
大家难道不知道H1每年8万5名额有30万人抽签吗?这个rule只不过是把random抽签改成了选工资高的而已,并不会减少人数,而且工资够线的人也不止8万5。不同职业和地区的工资标准也不同,不存在都给了马公的问题。
iheartnyc 发表于 2020-10-06 18:24

楼里很多人缺乏h1b常识 上来就喷...
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g00gle
就这样还有黄皮川轮说川渣只拦非法移民,川轮的脑子里装的估计都是shi
Alltrivi 发表于 2020-10-06 17:43

黄鼬们当然知道会折腾合法移民 但这不正是他们希望的
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squirrel40
那些不占抽签名额吧
zejuanxiaoyu 发表于 2020-10-06 18:52

但是这部分也要按照新的规则审核。被拒的机会会大增。
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orangeee
不觉得是坏事!
紫心汤圆
其实有些美国人很懒,哪怕读到phd, 他们也只想走上层路线,把脏累活全扔给中国人,而且还派个阿三经理!
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ddz1332
对这个政策意见很大的能投票吗??这个政策是不大好 希望只是疫情期间的,现在好多公司裁员 大量美国人没工作,收紧也很正常吧。厉害过可以不准外国人去呢
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qqzjqqzj
The only exception to this rule is for fashion models, who aren’t required to have college degrees. First lady Melania Trump, who worked as a fashion model when she first moved to the U.S. from Slovenia in 1996, was an H-1B visa recipient.
大衣被禁
滥用H1B的硬度三哥三妹才会慌,正经读书的不要怕,又不是野鸡大学挂靠身份的小刘,不用慌 本来就该提高工资标准要求,否则,五六万的H1B position,美国一抓一大把的人,根本不需要去搬运
okyes 发表于 2020-10-06 17:33

正经读书的五六万会计惊得目瞪口呆
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minqidev
我是好奇, Chali123怎么来洗。
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2020520
回复 1楼liviab的帖子
只准东欧名模移民🇺🇸
lastunas 发表于 2020-10-06 17:31

大长腿美女属于杰出人才 数理好的,STEM背景可以有性别优势。 其它女人可以结婚
小喵呜
滥用H1B的硬度三哥三妹才会慌,正经读书的不要怕,又不是野鸡大学挂靠身份的小刘,不用慌 本来就该提高工资标准要求,否则,五六万的H1B position,美国一抓一大把的人,根本不需要去搬运
okyes 发表于 2020-10-06 17:33

大学里博后,甚至有些一般大学一般专业的新AP完全达不到这个要求啊。
木牛流马
只有四个字形容:狗急跳墙
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youyichanzi
现在大环境不好,就业市场变差,现在提高职业签证门槛不正是保护大妈和大妈的老公么?
大衣被禁
这段才是惊天大雷好吗? “ The Department of Homeland Security’s rule would narrow who qualifies for H-1B visas based on their specific education. Currently, foreigners with a college degree or the equivalent amount of experience can apply to work in what is known as a specialty occupation. Under the changes, an applicant must have a college degree in the specific field in which he or she is looking to work. A software developer, for example, wouldn’t be awarded an H-1B visa if that person has a degree in electrical engineering.” 这难道不是堵了所有本科不是cs的老留转码之路??
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Jeffery01
哈哈 👍
seattlemouse 发表于 2020-10-06 17:56

对于你们这些政治避难或假婚姻过来的人来说,当然无所谓。
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Jeffery01
估计很多人高兴呢。没人跟他们抢工作了。
我没记错的话,Trump 16年打动很多华人的是End Illegal Immigration,End Chain Immigration。
4年过去了。打击Chain和Illegal不知道执行的怎么样了。有人知道的说说?
肉圆子 发表于 2020-10-06 18:01

如果自己移民过来,然后就想办法杜绝其他移民的途径,这种人就剩卑鄙两个字了。
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2020520
The only exception to this rule is for fashion models, who aren’t required to have college degrees. First lady Melania Trump, who worked as a fashion model when she first moved to the U.S. from Slovenia in 1996, was an H-1B visa recipient.
qqzjqqzj 发表于 2020-10-06 19:14

可以申请大号码模特去么?
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2020520
这段才是惊天大雷好吗? “ The Department of Homeland Security’s rule would narrow who qualifies for H-1B visas based on their specific education. Currently, foreigners with a college degree or the equivalent amount of experience can apply to work in what is known as a specialty occupation. Under the changes, an applicant must have a college degree in the specific field in which he or she is looking to work. A software developer, for example, wouldn’t be awarded an H-1B visa if that person has a degree in electrical engineering.” 这难道不是堵了所有本科不是cs的老留转码之路??
大衣被禁 发表于 2020-10-06 19:23

给美国大学做市呢,大家还得先去念个书。
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tieshouzc
看了一下评论,怎么那么可笑的评论,都通过大脑思考了吗? 在H1b申请人数远高于每年H1b限额的情况下,提高工资要求难道不是对中国人更有利吗?难道不比和刚从印度乌央乌央搬运来的比抽签拼运气强? 而且人家写明了公司高于45%人就行,为啥都纠结着5%不放?45%不合理吗?这也是中间价位吧? 还有说只有湾区才给的起,行业工资表都是按地区算得,你看移民局什么时候申请的不要求对照申请人所在地区的某行业工资而只要求全国工资做比较的?说湾区才给的起都不是H1B职业移民的吧?都是政治避难或婚姻移民的吧?一看都是不懂装懂,还评论的头头是道的
大衣被禁
给美国大学做市呢,大家还得先去念个书。
2020520 发表于 2020-10-06 19:28

美国很多大学都不接受已有本科学历的人申请本科。
薛定谔的猫屎
文科专业基本全部凉凉了 new grad不可能上来就45% 除非soft skill很强很强,这种外国人基本上做不到
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cofi
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-administration-announces-overhaul-of-h-1b-visa-program-11602017434?mod=djemalertNEWS&mod=breakingnews
Trump Administration Announces Overhaul of H-1B Visa Program Employers will be required to pay the high-skilled foreign workers significantly higher wages
WASHINGTON—The Trump administration announced an overhaul of the H-1B visa program for high-skilled foreign workers that will require employers to pay H-1B workers significantly higher wages, narrow the types of degrees that could qualify an applicant, and shorten the length of visas for certain contract workers.
The changes, introduced by the Departments of Labor and Homeland Security on Tuesday, will likely make it tougher to qualify for one of the coveted visas.
Ken Cuccinelli, the no. 2 official at DHS, said on a news conference call Tuesday that he expects that about one-third of H-1B visa applications would be rejected under the new set of rules.
Mr. Cuccinelli and Patrick Pizzella, the deputy secretary of Labor, said the changes were necessary to protect American workers, whom the administration believes are being undercut by foreign workers on H-1B visas who are paid lower wages to perform similar jobs.
“America’s immigration laws should put American workers first,” Mr. Pizzella said, pointing to what he described as insufficiently stringent wage requirements on foreign workers in the H-1B visa program. “The result is U.S. workers are being ousted from good-paying, middle-class jobs and being replaced by foreign workers,” he said.
The policy changes have been expected since 2017, when the administration first announced intentions to revamp the H-1B visa program. Even before these formal changes were announced, however, the Trump administration has tightened issuance of H-1B visas, rejecting 15.1% of applications in 2019 compared with 6.1% in 2016, according to figures from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.
The Labor Department’s wage-scale revision would significantly increase the required wages employers must pay their workers on H-1B visas. The requirements, which are set to take effect Thursday, are based on surveys of the range of salaries paid in particular professions.
Under the new rule, the required wage level for entry-level workers would rise to the 45th percentile of their profession’s distribution, from the current requirement of the 17th percentile. The requirement for the highest-skilled workers would rise to the 95th percentile, from the 67th percentile.
Because those required wage increases take effect this week, existing H-1B holders looking to renew their visas might not qualify unless their employers raise their salaries accordingly.
Write to Michelle Hackman at [email protected]


liviab 发表于 2020-10-06 17:22

H1B每年抽签,名额就那么多。 让工资高的人增大机会,甚至不用抽签,不是好事情么?
大衣被禁
如果自己移民过来,然后就想办法杜绝其他移民的途径,这种人就剩卑鄙两个字了。
Jeffery01 发表于 2020-10-06 19:26


这个我历历在目啊。 当年很多人支持trump说会减少婚姻/亲属移民,支持职业移民。甚至包括很多没绿卡的。 现在。。。
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ray_golden
看了一下这样要求湾区码农entry level base 13w左右 偏高,但是也差不多吧?

_summerdays 发表于 2020-10-06 17:48

13万达不到level 4
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YTD1Smore
这个新政策应该是Stephen Miller起草的 ,今天也确诊了。
小崽崽
给美国大学做市呢,大家还得先去念个书。
2020520 发表于 2020-10-06 19:28

不,最近F签也有新的proposed rule了...
小崽崽
这个新政策应该是Stephen Miller起草的 ,今天也确诊了。

YTD1Smore 发表于 2020-10-06 19:33

真的非常不想祝福他
随意chat
文科专业基本全部凉凉了 new grad不可能上来就45% 除非soft skill很强很强,这种外国人基本上做不到
薛定谔的猫屎 发表于 2020-10-06 19:31

文科本来就很少h1b是不是?
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dandan2012
大选后希望能消停点。。。
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hushaoshao
entry level 提高到行业内45%,是指本科毕业?high skilled提高到95%! 这个high skilled怎么定义啊?
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hushaoshao
看了一下评论,怎么那么可笑的评论,都通过大脑思考了吗? 在H1b申请人数远高于每年H1b限额的情况下,提高工资要求难道不是对中国人更有利吗?难道不比和刚从印度乌央乌央搬运来的比抽签拼运气强? 而且人家写明了公司高于45%人就行,为啥都纠结着5%不放?45%不合理吗?这也是中间价位吧? 还有说只有湾区才给的起,行业工资表都是按地区算得,你看移民局什么时候申请的不要求对照申请人所在地区的某行业工资而只要求全国工资做比较的?说湾区才给的起都不是H1B职业移民的吧?都是政治避难或婚姻移民的吧?一看都是不懂装懂,还评论的头头是道的

tieshouzc 发表于 2020-10-06 19:29

45%是entry level啊,如果没理解错,就是本科毕业生达到行业总体的45%以上?
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liviab
entre level 提高到行业内45%,是指本科毕业?high skilled提高到95%! 这个high skilled怎么定义啊?
hushaoshao 发表于 2020-10-06 19:43

年头。四年以上还是啥的。举例来说纽约的marketing manager, 需要20万以上。上面说这个不影响国人h1-b的,不知道怎么想的。
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Hershel
看了一下评论,怎么那么可笑的评论,都通过大脑思考了吗? 在H1b申请人数远高于每年H1b限额的情况下,提高工资要求难道不是对中国人更有利吗?难道不比和刚从印度乌央乌央搬运来的比抽签拼运气强? 而且人家写明了公司高于45%人就行,为啥都纠结着5%不放?45%不合理吗?这也是中间价位吧? 还有说只有湾区才给的起,行业工资表都是按地区算得,你看移民局什么时候申请的不要求对照申请人所在地区的某行业工资而只要求全国工资做比较的?说湾区才给的起都不是H1B职业移民的吧?都是政治避难或婚姻移民的吧?一看都是不懂装懂,还评论的头头是道的

tieshouzc 发表于 2020-10-06 19:29

到底什么人适用45%什么人适用5%啊
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Hershel
entry level 提高到行业内45%,是指本科毕业?high skilled提高到95%! 这个high skilled怎么定义啊?
hushaoshao 发表于 2020-10-06 19:43

那博士就要达到95%?有些行业本来就只招博士的怎么算
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seattlemouse
誰都知道H1B就是廉價勞動力的代名詞,調高要求只會把垃圾過濾掉,老中職業移民都是高智商高學歷用EB1申請綠卡的,這些反對的就是爲了反川而反的吧。

EdwardVIII 发表于 2020-10-06 18:16

是的。过去几年top school毕业和社区大学毕业的,大家都在一个pool里抽签H1B。很多人抽签两三年都抽不到。现在提高门槛,好学校的人抽到H1B的几率大了,精英留下。
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seattlemouse
我没有想到我们以前拿H1B的时候只需要达到17 percentile的工资。那还真是被rip off了好几年。
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seattlemouse
对于你们这些政治避难或假婚姻过来的人来说,当然无所谓。
Jeffery01 发表于 2020-10-06 19:23

逼着眼睛编造?五毛狗急跳墙了。能不能有点新意?同样的话编造抹黑我们F1出来的,我看都看烦了。 2020年10月4号注册,你刚注册完就来上班了。
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qqzjqqzj
我没有想到我们以前拿H1B的时候只需要达到17 percentile的工资。那还真是被rip off了好几年。
seattlemouse 发表于 2020-10-06 19:54

entry level要和entry level比哦
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life99f
不要浪费时间看这些了 反正也是说说而已
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iheartnyc

这个我历历在目啊。 当年很多人支持trump说会减少婚姻/亲属移民,支持职业移民。甚至包括很多没绿卡的。 现在。。。
大衣被禁 发表于 2020-10-06 19:32

其实职业移民一个也没少,只要H1B还抽签,绿卡还排队,那职业移民的名额就每年都用光,一个也不少。区别只是在于某些人变容易了,某些人变难了。
以前绝大多数H1B都被外包公司抢跑了,现在外包公司的通过率跌倒了60%,正经公司像Google,Amazon什么的,通过率基本都在98%以上。2017年抽签,印度人断崖式下跌。中国人抽中的数量这几年其实是稳步上升的。
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miaka
我现在知道了支持大嘴的都是在国内没有家底的WSN。以为有身份了自己就高人一等。其实没有自知之明,拎不清。明明就是食物链底端的华男,只要大嘴当一天总统就可以随便被任何race鄙视的。
大衣被禁
其实职业移民一个也没少,只要H1B还抽签,绿卡还排队,那职业移民的名额就每年都用光,一个也不少。区别只是在于某些人变容易了,某些人变难了。
以前绝大多数H1B都被外包公司抢跑了,现在外包公司的通过率跌倒了60%,正经公司像Google,Amazon什么的,通过率基本都在98%以上。2017年抽签,印度人断崖式下跌。中国人抽中的数量这几年其实是稳步上升的。
iheartnyc 发表于 2020-10-06 20:26

现在更好啦。 老留不能转码,正经马工通过率更高啦,恭喜各位小码。
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ajassmine
文科本来就很少h1b是不是?
随意chat 发表于 2020-10-06 19:35

很难。。妈蛋文艺生有错吗
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djmiss
我觉得能把烙印堵在国外的政策都是好政策。从整体来看,能够提高华人留下来的比例,毕竟华人比烙印靠谱多了。
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sheisalice
办签证太麻烦,能外包的都会外包而不是雇美国人。我们组中等城市一个senior analyst, 给办了H1-B 然后办绿卡,律师说9万的工资不够,要给加薪到10万多好像,我们肯定给加了因为知道她办绿卡不容易。但其实那个办公室组里其他的美国人3年经验的还没10万呢。反正这两年H1-B 和绿卡都麻烦,我们大老板已经放话要加强外包,美国本地的职位一再压缩了。
Cybercat 发表于 2020-10-06 17:56

绿卡工资是9035定的 根据工作内容来定level几 但是并不会说低level的业务就不能申请绿卡 律师把内容写那么高端 可不就是不够吗 再说了绿卡工资是future岗位和工资 又不是现在就要达到的
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suiji
感觉这个应该是为了打击印度人来美国抢工作的。这方面报道不少,比如迪斯尼从印度招一堆廉价劳动力,要求老美给他们培训,培训好了解雇掉老美。付给老美软件工程师10万的话,只要给印度人6万就可以了。很多老美4、50岁丢了工作,也不好找。很多这样的公司。