老巴马疯了!明天100个城市有游行(城市名单),大家当心点。

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ronyning
楼主 (北美华人网)
这话说的,自己代表整个美国非洲人。他不是全美国的总统吗?
 
还说什么,一个女的,在电梯,如果和一个老黑一起,会紧张?太错误了。妈呀!总统的智囊团哪去了?明确的说,美国的司法系统已经broken 了,但是,it don't mean you couldn't do anything.
 
明天100个城市游行,今天老巴马发疯,选边站。明天有游行的100城市的姐妹们小心点。老黑有时候,游行游行,就发疯的历史。
 
有听明白的给解解惑?是不是我没有听清楚?
 
原文:http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/president-obama-surprise-remarks-trayvon-martin-full-transcript-article-1.1403754
 
 
100个游行城市的链接:
http://blackamericaweb.com/147103/rev-al-sharpton-justice-for-trayvon-rallies/
 
 
[此贴子已经被作者于2013/7/19 19:08:11编辑过]
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xmseraph
2 楼
nyc的黑人不怕中暑啊?
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sarah_xu
3 楼
鼓励一下他,做得好! 黑人总统是sb的观念,更加深入民心
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yaocen
4 楼
明天的确小心点,判决出来奥克兰就已经打砸抢了,明天说警察会比较注意,,,,一般人还可以躲在家里,那些商家倒霉透了,已经很多被砸玻璃被涂鸦了。奥克兰华埠的boa用板子把玻璃门窗都护上了。。。。
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Knitnutbyjl
5 楼
sorry no chinese here

you know it's funny to me
that people talk all of the time about how black leaders need to stand
up and address the real problems in their communities.... there is constant
griping and bellyaching that al sharpton and jesse jackson are simply
race-baiters who stir up passions in really decisive ways...

now we have here, the black man with the most influence over the african-american community
since MLK, speaking on race in a way that is constructive
and that encourages all americans to unify instead of being divisive,
and people lose their $hit


instead of talking about how wrong obama is for speaking on this
hugely controversial case that is all over our media, maybe people
should actually listen to what he's saying and think about it... he's just
given the best explanation yet for the anger that the black community
is currently feeling.

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sweetme
6 楼
 天哪,明天不出门了
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ronyning
7 楼
以下是引用xmseraph在7/19/2013 3:34:00 PM的发言:

nyc的黑人不怕中暑啊?
haha ,如果是有组织的,估计有盒饭和水领。现在在电视台,终于听到一点点的不同的声音了。实在是老巴马的耳光子给老白,老左们打的太响亮了。
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eightguan
8 楼
以下是引用ronyning在7/19/2013 3:38:00 PM的发言:

haha ,如果是有组织的,估计有盒饭和水领。现在在电视台,终于听到一点点的不同的声音了。实在是老巴马的耳光子给老白,老左们打的太响亮了。
 
 
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ilovelondon
9 楼
以下是引用Knitnutbyjl在7/19/2013 3:35:00 PM的发言:

    
    sorry no chinese here

you know it's funny to me
that people talk all of the time about how black leaders need to stand
up and address the real problems in their communities.... there is constant
griping and bellyaching that al sharpton and jesse jackson are simply
race-baiters who stir up passions in really decisive ways...
             now we have here, the black man with the most influence over the african-american community
since MLK, speaking on race in a way that is constructive
and that encourages all americans to unify instead of being divisive,
and people lose their $hit

            
             instead of talking about how wrong obama is for speaking on this
hugely controversial case that is all over our media, maybe people
should actually listen to what he's saying and think about it... he's just
given the best explanation yet for the anger that the black community
is currently feeling.
        
    

    

我英语不太好,这个是在说反话吗

他不断地在这个案子上提到种族,提到黑人如何受歧视,要怎么理解才能理解为他的comments是constructive的,他的目的是让大家团结而不是让大家分裂呢?我理解无能

[此贴子已经被作者于2013/7/19 16:51:27编辑过]
番茄85
10 楼
mm,能给个link吗?看看哪些城市。
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ronyning
11 楼
以下是引用Knitnutbyjl在7/19/2013 3:35:00 PM的发言:
sorry no chinese here



you know it's funny to me that people talk all of the time about how black leaders need to stand up and address the real problems in their communities.... there is constant griping and bellyaching that al sharpton and jesse jackson are simply race-baiters who stir up passions in really decisive ways...
now we have here, the black man with the most influence over the african-american community since MLK, speaking on race in a way that is constructive and that encourages all americans to unify instead of being divisive, and people lose their $hit


instead of talking about how wrong obama is for speaking on this hugely controversial case that is all over our media, maybe people should actually listen to what he's saying and think about it... he's just given the best explanation yet for the anger that the black community is currently feeling.

虽然这个问题,是个问题,但是现在提出来,就是火上浇油,如果游行伤害到了商家,伤害到了,百姓,只会将种族歧视,黑白黄,推到对立面去。
 
大多的人都是这样,看新闻,老黑将华人珠宝店老板给割头了。为了抢劫,开枪杀了18月大的孩子。看了老黑暴打华人妈妈的视频。
虽然不至于恨老黑,但是下次看到有高大,带着HOODIE,看不清脸的老黑,是不是应该小心点呢?
 
如果你说你不担心,不用小心,我也不反对,毕竟,那时你选择。但是能说别人小心就是错误的。就不能提高警惕。
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Knitnutbyjl
12 楼
以下是引用ronyning在7/19/2013 3:43:00 PM的发言:

    
    
     虽然这个问题,是个问题,但是现在提出来,就是火上浇油,如果游行伤害到了商家,伤害到了,百姓,只会将种族歧视,黑白黄,推到对立面去。
      
     大多的人都是这样,看新闻,老黑将华人珠宝店老板给割头了。为了抢劫,开枪杀了18月大的孩子。看了老黑暴打华人妈妈的视频。
     虽然不至于恨老黑,但是下次看到有高大,带着HOODIE,看不清脸的老黑,是不是应该小心点呢?
      
     如果你说你不担心,不用小心,我也不反对,毕竟,那时你选择。但是能说别人小心就是错误的。就不能提高警惕。
    

he's not saying it's wrong, he's simply stating the fact

anybody notice his comment about "protest should be nonviolent"??
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elenaleela
13 楼
我看评论,好多人都后悔选这个总统了
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ronyning
14 楼
看到老黑锁车门都错了?80年代,有多少老黑,开车门就抢的。有的开了车门,掏枪就打的。看看刘墉写的如何成为纽约客。现在谁不小心翼翼的。要不损失的就是自己,不但是财产,还是生命。
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tinayyt
15 楼
以下是引用番茄85在7/19/2013 3:41:00 PM的发言:

    
    mm,能给个link吗?看看哪些城市。
    
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proserpina
16 楼
I was supposed to go to a party somewhere near LA downtown tomorrow, now I had to think about it.
番茄85
17 楼
以下是引用Knitnutbyjl在7/19/2013 3:44:00 PM的发言:


he's not saying it's wrong, he's simply stating the fact

anybody notice his comment about "protest should be nonviolent"??

开什么玩笑呢,他能直接说要暴力?根本就不该挑起种族争端,是个总统该做的事情吗?
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ronyning
18 楼
以下是引用Knitnutbyjl在7/19/2013 3:44:00 PM的发言:


he's not saying it's wrong, he's simply stating the fact

anybody notice his comment about "protest should be nonviolent"??

当然,他要这么说,要不他还要说打砸抢不成。但是他也说了,他代表真个AA 社区的利益。而且政客说话的时间,意义,都是很有讲究的,为什么在游行,前一天发表这么一个演说。无非就是要将事情闹大呗!而且这个案子,非要往种族歧视上面靠。太可怕了。文革呀!老巴马果然是无间道,是来毁美国的。
[此贴子已经被作者于2013/7/19 15:49:32编辑过]
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proserpina
19 楼
以下是引用ronyning在7/19/2013 3:49:00 PM的发言:

    
    
     当然,他要这么说,要不他还要说打砸抢不成。但是他也说了,他代表真个AA 社区的利益。而且政客说话的时间,意义,都是很有讲究的,无非就是要将事情闹大呗!而且这个案子,非要往种族歧视上面靠。太可怕了。文革呀!老巴马果然是无间道,是来毁美国的。
    


He should have kept his mouth shut at this time. He could have talked about the issue when things cooled down. Now he just added oil to a burning fire.
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Julianne
20 楼
以下是引用Knitnutbyjl在7/19/2013 3:35:00 PM的发言:

    
    sorry no chinese here

you know it's funny to me
that people talk all of the time about how black leaders need to stand
up and address the real problems in their communities.... there is constant
griping and bellyaching that al sharpton and jesse jackson are simply
race-baiters who stir up passions in really decisive ways...
             now we have here, the black man with the most influence over the african-american community
since MLK, speaking on race in a way that is constructive
and that encourages all americans to unify instead of being divisive,
and people lose their $hit

            
             instead of talking about how wrong obama is for speaking on this
hugely controversial case that is all over our media, maybe people
should actually listen to what he's saying and think about it... he's just
given the best explanation yet for the anger that the black community
is currently feeling.
        
    

    


赞勺妹的英文
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eightguan
21 楼
以下是引用ronyning在7/19/2013 3:49:00 PM的发言:

当然,他要这么说,要不他还要说打砸抢不成。但是他也说了,他代表真个AA 社区的利益。而且政客说话的时间,意义,都是很有讲究的,为什么在游行,前一天发表这么一个演说。无非就是要将事情闹大呗!而且这个案子,非要往种族歧视上面靠。太可怕了。文革呀!老巴马果然是无间道,是来毁美国的。
[此贴子已经被作者于2013/7/19 15:49:32编辑过]
 
 
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抹茶红豆包
22 楼
100个城市有哪些?LZ能给点来源吗?
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ronyning
23 楼
历史上,哪一个老白总统,敢说,我就代表白人社区了。总统不是应该代表美国吗??
人到中年
24 楼
以下是引用番茄85在7/19/2013 3:48:00 PM的发言:

    
    
     开什么玩笑呢,他能直接说要暴力?根本就不该挑起种族争端,是个总统该做的事情吗?
    


她一直是力捧O8的
乐啊乐
25 楼
老黑看谁都不顺眼啊。。。甭管是白人还是其他族裔
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Freyja
26 楼
Chicago的黑人很多哇 ,明天应该不能去Chicago市中心了!
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mobyq
27 楼
他是疯了 之前说生个儿子可能trayvon这样 现在又说他是35年前的自己 是说GZ可能shot了一个president candidate么。。。
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eightguan
28 楼
以下是引用ronyning在7/19/2013 3:54:00 PM的发言:

老巴马的原话就是,司法系统已经完全的崩溃了。但是不意味着我们什么都不能做?”
 
太明显了。开始干涉司法,没有想到陪审不买账,现在开始要整个大逆转了。妈呀!这好戏连台呀!不知道了,老白,老左们怎么看,这么下去,就是下一个非洲和南美了。因为司法无法独立了。
 
what ?!!!!
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ronyning
29 楼
以下是引用Knitnutbyjl在7/19/2013 3:44:00 PM的发言:


he's not saying it's wrong, he's simply stating the fact

anybody notice his comment about "protest should be nonviolent"??

老巴马的原话就是,司法系统已经完全的崩溃了。但是不意味着我们什么都不能做?”
 
太明显了。开始干涉司法,没有想到陪审不买账,现在开始要整个大逆转了。妈呀!这好戏连台呀!不知道了,老白,老左们怎么看,这么下去,就是下一个非洲和南美了。因为司法无法独立了。
30 楼
didn't specified, but at least Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia, NYC are included. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/07/17/justice-for-trayvon-rallies-planned-for-100-cities/2524701/ 以下是引用番茄85在7/19/2013 3:41:00 PM的发言:

    
    mm,能给个link吗?看看哪些城市。
    
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jiyizhong
31 楼
这个黑鬼应该闭嘴
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Julianne
32 楼
以下是引用ronyning在7/19/2013 3:54:00 PM的发言:

    
    
     老巴马的原话就是,司法系统已经完全的崩溃了。但是不意味着我们什么都不能做?”
      
     太明显了。开始干涉司法,没有想到陪审不买账,现在开始要整个大逆转了。妈呀!这好戏连台呀!不知道了,老白,老左们怎么看,这么下去,就是下一个非洲和南美了。因为司法无法独立了。
    


是不是不知道去年一个黑女为了保护自己冲墙开了一枪,结果被定了杀人未遂的罪,要坐牢30年?
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Freyja
33 楼
以下是引用ronyning在7/19/2013 3:49:00 PM的发言:

    
    
     当然,他要这么说,要不他还要说打砸抢不成。但是他也说了,他代表真个AA 社区的利益。而且政客说话的时间,意义,都是很有讲究的,为什么在游行,前一天发表这么一个演说。无非就是要将事情闹大呗!而且这个案子,非要往种族歧视上面靠。太可怕了。文革呀!老巴马果然是无间道,是来毁美国的。
     [此贴子已经被作者于2013/7/19 15:49:32编辑过]

    

08就是喜欢挑事!不在美国弄出点事情来他不甘心!!作为总统应该希望美国和平,而不是故意挑起事端!
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eightguan
34 楼
以下是引用ronyning在7/19/2013 3:54:00 PM的发言:

老巴马的原话就是,司法系统已经完全的崩溃了。但是不意味着我们什么都不能做?”
 
太明显了。开始干涉司法,没有想到陪审不买账,现在开始要整个大逆转了。妈呀!这好戏连台呀!不知道了,老白,老左们怎么看,这么下去,就是下一个非洲和南美了。因为司法无法独立了。
 
这典型贼喊捉贼:08自己防碍司法公正,然后说判决结果不对,司法系统崩溃。
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ilovelondon
35 楼
以下是引用Knitnutbyjl在7/19/2013 3:44:00 PM的发言:

    
    
he's not saying it's wrong, he's simply stating the fact

anybody notice his comment about "protest should be nonviolent"??

    

我觉得他说的话本身就自相矛盾的,这边说,黑人社区这么看问题时有历史原因的(所以我们要理解),那边说因为历史的原因,所以黑人被歧视(这是不好的)。。。这真是怎么对黑人有利怎么说啊!因为历史的原因,黑人这么看问题就没有问题。因为历史原因,白人这么看问题就是不对的。双重标准是不是太过了???
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proserpina
36 楼
以下是引用ilovelondon在7/19/2013 3:56:00 PM的发言:

    
    
我觉得他说的话本身就自相矛盾的,这边说,黑人社区这么看问题时有历史原因的(所以我们要理解),那边说因为历史的原因,所以黑人被歧视(这是不好的)。。。这真是怎么对黑人有利怎么说啊!因为历史的原因,黑人这么看问题就没有问题。因为历史原因,白人这么看问题就是不对的。双重标准是不是太过了???

    

Of course ah, it's always someone else's fault. They are innocent as an angel.
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sosososo
37 楼
o8是tg的深喉吧?
 
 
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eightguan
38 楼
以下是引用Freyja在7/19/2013 3:56:00 PM的发言:

08就是喜欢挑事!不在美国弄出点事情来他不甘心!!作为总统应该希望美国和平,而不是故意挑起事端!
 
08 还诺贝尔和平奖。希望这次雪花灯拿诺奖,好象挪威提名他了。
番茄85
39 楼
以下是引用ilovelondon在7/19/2013 4:01:00 PM的发言:


说具体一点,比如说她是在自己家里吗?如何被威胁了?如果是在户外,又没有证据证明她的生命受到威胁了,那只能判杀人未遂啊。如果是在她家,那别人未经同意就进入她家,她开枪就是自卫

re, 没看过这个,那个id科普一下吧。
抹茶红豆包
40 楼
以下是引用sosososo在7/19/2013 3:58:00 PM的发言:

    
     o8是tg的深喉吧?
      
      
    


人送外号奥观海。。。。。。。
阡陌豪猪
41 楼
以下是引用eightguan在7/19/2013 3:53:00 PM的发言:

    
    
      
     what ?!!!!
    

如果真这么说,彻底无语了。
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ronyning
42 楼
老巴马的一番NC言论,电视台,现在都炸锅了,不过也开始有一些不同的声音了。也不算是坏事,要不电视台这么洗脑,没准大家都跟着NC了。老白老左估计都傻了,自己选了半天,人家表态了,我代表AA的利益。
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ilovelondon
43 楼
以下是引用Julianne在7/19/2013 3:56:00 PM的发言:

    
    

是不是不知道去年一个黑女为了保护自己冲墙开了一枪,结果被定了杀人未遂的罪,要坐牢30年?

    

说具体一点,比如说她是在自己家里吗?如何被威胁了?如果是在户外,又没有证据证明她的生命受到威胁了,那只能判杀人未遂啊。如果是在她家,那别人未经同意就进入她家,她开枪就是自卫
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BirdBB123
44 楼
以下是引用proserpina在7/19/2013 3:49:00 PM的发言:

He should have kept his mouth shut at this time. He could have talked about the issue when things cooled down. Now he just added oil to a burning fire.
I agree.....
As a president, he's not supposed to be biased....
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vaormd
45 楼
我讨厌奥巴马!!好好的一个国家都给他搞成啥样了!这个战争狂人!
阡陌豪猪
46 楼
以下是引用eightguan在7/19/2013 3:56:00 PM的发言:

    
    
      
     这典型贼喊捉贼:08自己防碍司法公正,然后说判决结果不对,司法系统崩溃。
    

re,这。。。真不知道说啥好了
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Julianne
47 楼
以下是引用ilovelondon在7/19/2013 4:01:00 PM的发言:

    
    
说具体一点,比如说她是在自己家里吗?如何被威胁了?如果是在户外,又没有证据证明她的生命受到威胁了,那只能判杀人未遂啊。如果是在她家,那别人未经同意就进入她家,她开枪就是自卫

    
呵呵 这时候又变成guilty until proven innocent了? 另外 她是在自己家
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agilis
48 楼
奥观海的名字不是白叫的,hoho

以下是引用sosososo在7/19/2013 3:58:00 PM的发言:

    
     o8是tg的深喉吧?
      
      
    
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ilovelondon
49 楼
以下是引用ronyning在7/19/2013 4:01:00 PM的发言:

    
    老巴马的一番NC言论,电视台,现在都炸锅了,不过也开始有一些不同的声音了。也不算是坏事,要不电视台这么洗脑,没准大家都跟着NC了。老白老左估计都傻了,自己选了半天,人家表态了,我代表AA的利益。
    

说起来,timing真是很重要!这要是去年发生的事,romney就上台了
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aliciazhao
50 楼
我觉得只要是不正当的,都有被搬正的那一天的。。。
抹茶红豆包
51 楼
以下是引用vaormd在7/19/2013 4:02:00 PM的发言:

    
    我讨厌奥巴马!!好好的一个国家都给他搞成啥样了!这个战争狂人!
    


人刚拿了诺贝尔和平奖没几年。。。。。。
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@高圆圆@
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以下是引用ronyning在7/19/2013 4:01:00 PM的发言:

    
    老巴马的一番NC言论,电视台,现在都炸锅了,不过也开始有一些不同的声音了。也不算是坏事,要不电视台这么洗脑,没准大家都跟着NC了。老白老左估计都傻了,自己选了半天,人家表态了,我代表AA的利益。
    


同意!好事!泥马,DUMB A*S 美国人民也该醒醒了!
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Julianne
53 楼
以下是引用ronyning在7/19/2013 4:05:00 PM的发言:

    
    
     她说他老公打她,说自己去开门,门卡住了,(后来,警察说没问题)。然后一看跑不了,就就跑到车库拿枪,回来。老公说自己哀求她不要开枪,(这个是老公说的,她说是骂她。但是如果老公看她有枪,还激怒她,智商也好不到哪去。)她还是开枪了。一枪打墙上了,墙后的屋子里面,两个小孩子还在里面。而且事后验伤也不是很重。
    
老公身上有限制令,不可以接近她。 
冰是睡着的水
54 楼
08
真这么说?????这不是火上浇油
55 楼
true. where are those "100 cities" when O.J. walked? 以下是引用ilovelondon在7/19/2013 3:56:00 PM的发言:

    
    
我觉得他说的话本身就自相矛盾的,这边说,黑人社区这么看问题时有历史原因的(所以我们要理解),那边说因为历史的原因,所以黑人被歧视(这是不好的)。。。这真是怎么对黑人有利怎么说啊!因为历史的原因,黑人这么看问题就没有问题。因为历史原因,白人这么看问题就是不对的。双重标准是不是太过了???

    
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applekernel
56 楼
以下是引用ilovelondon在7/19/2013 4:03:00 PM的发言:


说起来,timing真是很重要!这要是去年发生的事,romney就上台了

唯有摇摇头、叹叹气,选出这么个sb
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ronyning
57 楼
以下是引用ilovelondon在7/19/2013 4:01:00 PM的发言:


说具体一点,比如说她是在自己家里吗?如何被威胁了?如果是在户外,又没有证据证明她的生命受到威胁了,那只能判杀人未遂啊。如果是在她家,那别人未经同意就进入她家,她开枪就是自卫

她说他老公打她,说自己去开门,门卡住了,(后来,警察说没问题)。然后一看跑不了,就就跑到车库拿枪,回来。老公说自己哀求她不要开枪,(这个是老公说的,她说是骂她。但是如果老公看她有枪,还激怒她,智商也好不到哪去。)她还是开枪了。一枪打墙上了,墙后的屋子里面,两个小孩子还在里面。而且事后验伤也不是很重。
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Grey
58 楼
SATURDAY, JULY 20, 2012
NEW YORK CITY
ONE POLICE PLAZA
12 (NOON)

avoid downtown NYC tomorrow.
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rachmany
59 楼
老犹们呢,一手扶起来的烂泥,现在咋办
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Freyja
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以下是引用eightguan在7/19/2013 3:59:00 PM的发言:

    
    
      
     08 还诺贝尔和平奖。希望这次雪花灯拿诺奖,好象挪威提名他了。
    

他拿那诺贝尔奖的时候美国还在和别的国家打战,这种情况下他也好意思厚着脸皮拿那个奖!提名他为诺贝尔奖的人不是脑子有问题就是瞎了眼!
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rachmany
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以下是引用ilovelondon在7/19/2013 4:03:00 PM的发言:

    
    
说起来,timing真是很重要!这要是去年发生的事,romney就上台了

    
去年奥疤蟆肯定不会这么嚣张
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62 楼
以下是引用rachmany在7/19/2013 4:08:00 PM的发言:

    
    老犹们呢,一手扶起来的烂泥,现在咋办
    


是不是通过任命肯尼迪的女儿做驻日大使换了人情?
番茄85
63 楼
以下是引用ronyning在7/19/2013 4:05:00 PM的发言:

她说他老公打她,说自己去开门,门卡住了,(后来,警察说没问题)。然后一看跑不了,就就跑到车库拿枪,回来。老公说自己哀求她不要开枪,(这个是老公说的,她说是骂她。但是如果老公看她有枪,还激怒她,智商也好不到哪去。)她还是开枪了。一枪打墙上了,墙后的屋子里面,两个小孩子还在里面。而且事后验伤也不是很重。
白人?
番茄85
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以下是引用Freyja在7/19/2013 4:09:00 PM的发言:

他拿那诺贝尔奖的时候美国还在和别的国家打战,这种情况下他也好意思厚着脸皮拿那个奖!提名他为诺贝尔奖的人不是脑子有问题就是瞎了眼!
舔贝。
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BirdBB123
65 楼
以下是引用Knitnutbyjl在7/19/2013 3:35:00 PM的发言:
sorry no chinese here



you know it's funny to me that people talk all of the time about how black leaders need to stand up and address the real problems in their communities.... there is constant griping and bellyaching that al sharpton and jesse jackson are simply race-baiters who stir up passions in really decisive ways...
now we have here, the black man with the most influence over the african-american community since MLK, speaking on race in a way that is constructive and that encourages all americans to unify instead of being divisive, and people lose their $hit


instead of talking about how wrong obama is for speaking on this hugely controversial case that is all over our media, maybe people should actually listen to what he's saying and think about it... he's just given the best explanation yet for the anger that the black community is currently feeling.


I think what Obama has been doing lately is to stir things up, instead of addressing the real problems. He's dividing the nation instead of uniting it. I don't see any constructiveness about his speech and actions. The last thing this nation needs now is the emphasis from our president about the racial issue that this case reflected which is not true at first place anyway.... just to make things so much worse….. As a president, he's not supposed to be so biased.
[此贴子已经被作者于2013/7/19 16:35:12编辑过]
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BirdBB123
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以下是引用rachmany在7/19/2013 4:09:00 PM的发言:

去年奥疤蟆肯定不会这么嚣张
同意.
67 楼
以下是引用Knitnutbyjl在7/19/2013 3:35:00 PM的发言:

    
    sorry no chinese here

you know it's funny to me
that people talk all of the time about how black leaders need to stand
up and address the real problems in their communities.... there is constant
griping and bellyaching that al sharpton and jesse jackson are simply
race-baiters who stir up passions in really decisive ways...
             now we have here, the black man with the most influence over the african-american community
since MLK, speaking on race in a way that is constructive
and that encourages all americans to unify instead of being divisive,
and people lose their $hit

            
             instead of talking about how wrong obama is for speaking on this
hugely controversial case that is all over our media, maybe people
should actually listen to what he's saying and think about it... he's just
given the best explanation yet for the anger that the black community
is currently feeling.
        
    

    

我不能同意。如果说这个案子本身宣判有不合理的地方,这我同意
但他一定要扯到黑人被歧视。他要这么讲,起码得建立在实事的基础上吧?Zimmerman是一个墨墨,都务必说成white Hispanic,由此务必牵出黑人遭白人歧视
我作为非黑人,虽然不能完全站在黑人立场,但是基本道理还是讲的。o8睁眼说瞎话挑拨离间的做法实在把我给恶心到了
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eightguan
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以下是引用BirdBB123在7/19/2013 4:12:00 PM的发言:


I think what Obama has been lately is to stir things up, instead of addressing the real problems. He's dividing the nation instead of uniting it. I don't see any constructiveness about his speech and actions. The last thing this nation needs now is the emphasis from our president about the racial issue that this case reflected which is not true at first place anyway.... just to make things so much worse….. As a president, he's not supposed to be so biased.
 
exactly!
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ronyning
69 楼
以下是引用番茄85在7/19/2013 4:10:00 PM的发言:

白人?
不知道,就是陪审认为,她有枪,完全可以离开,因为她老公不是和她近身肉搏,而是有一定的距离,开枪,就是要杀人,只是没打中而已。而且陪审认为要吓唬人,完全可以向地面和天花板开枪。所以,伤害的意图成立。但是忘了是什么罪了。
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以下是引用vaormd在7/19/2013 4:02:00 PM的发言:

    
    我讨厌奥巴马!!好好的一个国家都给他搞成啥样了!这个战争狂人!
    


他连战争狂人的边都摸不到吧
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Freyja
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以下是引用ilovelondon在7/19/2013 4:03:00 PM的发言:

    
    
说起来,timing真是很重要!这要是去年发生的事,romney就上台了

    

是啊。romney不知道比08好多少。至少不会挑起美国黑人和白人对恃,也不会花那么多纳税人的钱去旅游,更不会去不顾美国的利益借更多的债乱花钱。08不把美国搞衰落他就不甘心啊!
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ronyning
72 楼
以下是引用BirdBB123在7/19/2013 4:12:00 PM的发言:


I think what Obama has been lately is to stir things up, instead of addressing the real problems. He's dividing the nation instead of uniting it. I don't see any constructiveness about his speech and actions. The last thing this nation needs now is the emphasis from our president about the racial issue that this case reflected which is not true at first place anyway.... just to make things so much worse….. As a president, he's not supposed to be so biased.
Re。
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ronyning
73 楼
以下是引用树在7/19/2013 4:15:00 PM的发言:


我不能同意。如果说这个案子本身宣判有不合理的地方,这我同意
但他一定要扯到黑人被歧视。他要这么讲,起码得建立在实事的基础上吧?Zimmerman是一个墨墨,都务必说成white Hispanic,由此务必牵出黑人遭白人歧视
我作为非黑人,虽然不能完全站在黑人立场,但是基本道理还是讲的。o8睁眼说瞎话挑拨离间的做法实在把我给恶心到了


 
向往老白身上赖,就自己发明词。其实芝麻人应该将自己晒的黑黑的,让老黑,无话可说。


[此贴子已经被作者于2013/7/19 16:19:25编辑过]
番茄85
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以下是引用Freyja在7/19/2013 4:17:00 PM的发言:

是啊。romney不知道比08好多少。至少不会挑起美国黑人和白人对恃,也不会花那么多纳税人的钱去旅游,更不会去不顾美国的利益借更多的债乱花钱。08不把美国搞衰落他就不甘心啊!
好吃懒做人太多,人家有支持率阿。
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eightguan
75 楼
以下是引用ronyning在7/19/2013 4:18:00 PM的发言:


我不能同意。如果说这个案子本身宣判有不合理的地方,这我同意
但他一定要扯到黑人被歧视。他要这么讲,起码得建立在实事的基础上吧?Zimmerman是一个墨墨,都务必说成white Hispanic,由此务必牵出黑人遭白人歧视
我作为非黑人,虽然不能完全站在黑人立场,但是基本道理还是讲的。o8睁眼说瞎话挑拨离间的做法实在把我给恶心到了

向往老白身上赖,就自己发明词。其实芝麻人应该将自己晒的黑黑的,让老黑,无话可说。


[此贴子已经被作者于2013/7/19 16:19:25编辑过]
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ronyning
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以下是引用Freyja在7/19/2013 4:17:00 PM的发言:

是啊。romney不知道比08好多少。至少不会挑起美国黑人和白人对恃,也不会花那么多纳税人的钱去旅游,更不会去不顾美国的利益借更多的债乱花钱。08不把美国搞衰落他就不甘心啊!
去年,估计08 也不管这么嚣张的。估计和老黑社区说好了,等退休给自己找个好处理。
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ysunny
77 楼
以下是引用fwtwfrww在7/19/2013 4:25:00 PM的发言:

    
    大家都注意人身安全吧,这点最重要。
    

晚上屯粮,明天窝家里。。。。。。o8就是个搅屎棍。
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ilovelondon
78 楼
以下是引用Julianne在7/19/2013 4:02:00 PM的发言:

    
     呵呵 这时候又变成guilty until proven innocent了? 另外 她是在自己家

    

不懂你的意思,非要挑字眼吗?不如给解释一下你为什么觉得那个案子判得不公,或者跟zimmerman的案子是双重标准吧
番茄85
79 楼
以下是引用ilovelondon在7/19/2013 4:24:00 PM的发言:


不懂你的意思,非要挑字眼吗?不如给解释一下你为什么觉得那个案子判得不公,或者跟zimmerman的案子是双重标准吧

那个老公是白人吗?不然和种族都没关系。
80 楼
以下是引用Freyja在7/19/2013 4:17:00 PM的发言:

    
    
    
是啊。romney不知道比08好多少。至少不会挑起美国黑人和白人对恃,也不会花那么多纳税人的钱去旅游,更不会去不顾美国的利益借更多的债乱花钱。08不把美国搞衰落他就不甘心啊!
    

他想get job down,问题是现在全国都炸开锅了,原先不反对他的人都站出来反他。08这么搞美国种族问题实在是太令人失望了
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proserpina
81 楼
以下是引用树在7/19/2013 4:15:00 PM的发言:

    
    
我不能同意。如果说这个案子本身宣判有不合理的地方,这我同意
但他一定要扯到黑人被歧视。他要这么讲,起码得建立在实事的基础上吧?Zimmerman是一个墨墨,都务必说成white Hispanic,由此务必牵出黑人遭白人歧视
我作为非黑人,虽然不能完全站在黑人立场,但是基本道理还是讲的。o8睁眼说瞎话挑拨离间的做法实在把我给恶心到了

    


Race should not be brought into this case in the first place. Here was an article about GZ's past.

George Zimmerman Racist Towards Blacks?

George Zimmerman comes from a deeply Catholic background, served as an altar boy, and was “taught in his early years to do right by those less fortunate.” George Zimmerman himself is mixed race, although he’s often reported as being Hispanic. George Zimmerman has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather.

George Zimmerman was raised in a racially integrated household, with reports saying, “It wasn’t only white or only Hispanic or only black – it was mixed.” For several years, George Zimmerman shared meals with two African American girls who were considered part of the household.
George Zimmerman Helped Blacks

Before the Trayvon Martin shooting even took place, George Zimmerman was one of the few non-black people that helped protest the beating of a black homeless man by the son of a Sanford police officer that was left unpunished. The twist to this story is that George Zimmerman asked the NAACP in Sanford for help, but he was shot down, claiming they didn’t have the resources to help the homeless black man.

So without the help of the NAACP George Zimmerman printed his own fliers and distributed them at black churches in the area. Only after the guilty party turned himself in did the NAACP become involved in negotiating an “undisclosed financial reward” for the black man George Zimmeran had helped.

In the same time frame George Zimmerman was helping blacks, he was video taped saying, “I would just like to state that the law is written in black and white. It should not and cannot be enforced in the gray for those that are in the thin blue line.” Ironically, the same police department George Zimmerman protested for racial violence and cover-ups is the police department that investigated Zimmerman after Trayvon Martin. In the end, even the FBI said George Zimmerman is not racist.

http://www.inquisitr.com/847663/george-zimmerman-racism-he-helped-black-people/
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fwtwfrww
82 楼
大家都注意人身安全吧,这点最重要。
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ilovelondon
83 楼
以下是引用番茄85在7/19/2013 4:24:00 PM的发言:

    
    
     那个老公是白人吗?不然和种族都没关系。
    

我不知道啊,我看到的跟你看到的一样多,就是这个楼里的ronyning mm提供的资料
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ilovelondon
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以下是引用proserpina在7/19/2013 4:25:00 PM的发言:

    
    
    

Race should not be brought into this case in the first place.

    

对,这就是大多数人讨厌他在这个案子上发表的言论的原因
85 楼
以下是引用ilovelondon在7/19/2013 4:27:00 PM的发言:

    
    
我不知道啊,我看到的跟你看到的一样多,就是这个楼里的ronyning mm提供的资料

    
那个案子如果lg是白人,我深度怀疑总统先生是不是就会扑着扑着上了

警察抓哈福教授的那一次,总统先生也象抓住救命稻草一样扑上去

总统是不是根本找不到黑人被歧视的案例,所以一定要这么desperate???
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ClearClean
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cxvdfeg
87 楼
那要看警察多给力了。群体事件很容易失去控制 以下是引用ClearClean在7/19/2013 4:33:00 PM的发言:

    
    
     protest nonviolent。。。可能吗?
    

[此贴子已经被作者于2013/7/19 16:33:21编辑过]
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lingling7
88 楼
 Being a president and promoting racism is shameful!
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muying
89 楼
以下是引用袅在7/19/2013 3:55:00 PM的发言:

    
    didn't specified, but at least Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia, NYC are included. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/07/17/justice-for-trayvon-rallies-planned-for-100-cities/2524701/
    


http://nationalactionnetwork.net/events/563/justice-for-trayvon-national-day-of-action-vigils-in-100-cities/
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ClearClean
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ronyning
91 楼
大家提出的黑女枪击老公,黑白没关系,因为有人提出来,而是说你看老黑开枪,怎么就不能stand her ground ,要判刑。老白莫,就OK 。和黑女老公黑白没关系。
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buffie
92 楼
长毛怪还打算明天去chicago chinatown剪毛,看来得继续长着了
93 楼
以下是引用ronyning在7/19/2013 4:39:00 PM的发言:

    
     大家提出的黑女枪击老公,黑白没关系,因为有人提出来,而是说你看老黑开枪,怎么就不能stand her ground ,要判刑。老白莫,就OK 。和黑女老公黑白没关系。
    
我的意思是,还好她lg不是白的,不是白的都能扯到种族歧视!
如果她lg再是个白的,这案子就不是陪审团15分钟判20年这么简单了
番茄85
94 楼
以下是引用ronyning在7/19/2013 4:39:00 PM的发言:
大家提出的黑女枪击老公,黑白没关系,因为有人提出来,而是说你看老黑开枪,怎么就不能stand her ground ,要判刑。老白莫,就OK 。和黑女老公黑白没关系。
没危险情况下,主动开枪就是故意杀人了吧,这两个例子一点相关性都没有。
抹茶红豆包
95 楼
以下是引用buffie在7/19/2013 4:40:00 PM的发言:

    
    长毛怪还打算明天去chicago chinatown剪毛,看来得继续长着了
    


我也不敢出门了。不怕一万就怕万一。
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proserpina
96 楼
以下是引用ClearClean在7/19/2013 4:38:00 PM的发言:

    
    
     是先根她老公在家打了一架,然后,女的走出家门,到自己车里,拿了把枪,然后回家,向自己老公打了一枪,没打中老公,打中了天花板。这个女的判guilty有啥问题?
    


Oh, IC. Then she is guilty of something. If GZ had walked back to his car to get his gun then walked back to shot TM after the fight, he would have been found guilty as well.
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aisingioro_fox
97 楼
以下是引用xmseraph在7/19/2013 3:34:00 PM的发言:

    
     nyc的黑人不怕中暑啊?
    
明天开始下雨变凉快了。。。热就这几天 :(
98 楼
以下是引用番茄85在7/19/2013 4:40:00 PM的发言:

    
    
     没危险情况下,主动开枪就是故意杀人了吧,这两个例子一点相关性都没有。
    
对,她那个案子怎么都不算自卫反击
第一她是回车库拿的枪,不是情急之下被迫开枪
第二她中途撒谎,说车库打不开她才被迫拿枪。事后证明她家车库门没有问题
第三6周后(具体时间不记得了),她又去跟她lg对峙。她压根不怕她lg。不可能因为生命威胁开枪


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以下是引用buffie在7/19/2013 4:40:00 PM的发言:
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