在夢中聽過的两首曲子,獻給張純如

中间小谢
楼主 (文学城)

 

楊君談清醒夢,而在現實生活,各種藝術中我對音樂特别遲鈍,却曾在夢中非常清晰地聽到過好幾首曲子。現在忽而發覺其中有两首特别合適張純如紀念館的氛圍:

貝多芬《英雄》交響曲的第二樂章,仿佛大地上的全部痛苦如河流般互相交滙、傾訴,衹有强大的靈魂愿意站在中央聆聽、承受一切。

莫扎特的小提琴、中提琴 Sinfonia Concertante 的第二樂章,仿佛那個勇敢的靈魂在深深的悲傷之中而没有被痛苦和災難污染,潔淨的淚水流過低垂的臉龐,把它洗得更為聖潔。。她即將上昇。

 

貝多芬的 (選段,全樂章較長):

 

莫扎特的:

 

 

 

 

 

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MoonlightBee
您呢,学学张纯如的正义感,碰到有种族主义者对孩子说出种族主义的话,别光顾着count美国种族主义数量然后P都不敢放。
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MoonlightBee
张纯如是你们口中美帝国主义培养出来的美国人,不是满嘴谎言的共产国家培养出来的,记住了!
中间小谢
你們好像對歪曲我和打擊華人同胞的興趣比保護同胞乃至保護自己的興趣還大。

像你們這樣的人要去那個區,恐怕没幾天就被人打死在街頭。

 

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MoonlightBee
没想歪曲你,记得这是你自己说的的一件事,如果我理解错了你担待点。你骂自己的同胞的脏话还记得吗?
中间小谢
你不也是那个共産國家出來的?你什么时候變美國人了?

我說的殖民主義,不是帝国主义,你的記性是很差。張冠李戴。

中间小谢
你絕對理解錯了,如果不是有意的話。
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MoonlightBee
What kind of questions are these? Are these even relevant

to what I said above? My nationality and where I came from are irrelevant to what I said above.  Yes, I am Chinese. I still want to remind you Iris Shun-Ru Chang was born here, grew up here, went to schools and got education here. She is an American with a heart of LIBERTY, EQUALITY and FRATERNITY.

简丹儿
刚刚听完,她在这乐章的精神疆域中……
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stonebench
张纯如超越了国籍差异,她的灵魂代表人性的正义与高贵。拿国籍差异来说事的人不配评价她.

铜锣烧
人有迁徙的自由, 国籍只是为了生活方便, 再如何文件转换, 转换不了华夏儿女血脉和文化的传承
铜锣烧
开始人参公鸡了~~~
古安
应该是转移焦点,只要不再怀念张纯如就行
铜锣烧
都什么人 最终目的要为 日本人侵略 中国 烧杀抢 的 暴行 洗地? 一片焦土血浸中华,这是能洗干净的么
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MoonlightBee
绝对不是故意的,你如愿意可以再说一遍,把context, purpose和你为孩子做了什么说清楚我可能就能理解了。

当然这是你的自由,说不说由你。我发觉了你人品不坏,不像这里其他人,就是觉得有时对同胞说的话实在太对不住你所崇尚的文明了,他没有攻击过你个人,别弄的跟敌我矛盾似的。己所不欲勿施于人吧。这话也说给我自己,不是想指责你啊,就是作为平辈劝劝,呵呵。

我们学张纯如什么呢?这是我们应该思考的,光是锦上添花的赞美感觉在其次。

学习她勇敢,实事求是的精神,她做了多少实地采访和考察,查找了多少的资料。。。等等等等

不能否认美国的教育绝对对她价值观和世界观是有影响的。在深一步思考,为什么中国没有培养出一个张纯如?

有没有橘生淮南则为橘 生于淮北则为枳的影响。

古安
什么人不知道,但很明显,他们正在用各种工具努力洗地
中间小谢
I don't need to explain anything to you

If you are serious about it, just look up my comments and study them. I think they are clear enough.

"我发觉了你人品不坏,不像这里其他人"

Don't judge me, especially 其他人.

I am not sure about your 人品. And I don't want to think about it either.

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MoonlightBee
then this was my original post to you so my understanding

was correct.  You are not worthy of my judging at all.

https://bbs.wenxuecity.com/teatime/717118.html

甭管哪国的人,啥文明,你首先得是个合格的人。在你炫耀着祖先的文明的时候,你如何用一个地球人的文明对待歧视,面对你崇尚的祖先?统计着美国有多少针对种族而发生仇恨犯罪的数量的时候,你当缩头乌龟,做哑裔,当看客。你看见了说出歧视语言的人却不去举报。相信你也是这样教育你的后代的,所以就这样一代一代下去。你的这种行为很可能导致那些孩子成为一次mass shooting victims. 作为美国公民在大骂别人歧视你的种族的时候,你对你的种族做了些什么建设性的工作吗?在你成为美国公民宣誓的时候,你承诺过哪些公民的义务?即使你回了国,这样的素质同样不可能成为能为你的国家做出有益贡献的中国国民。真的还不如大多数school kids, 更不如费城那个十几岁的亚裔女孩。还真有guts整天把张纯如挂嘴边。

 

中间小谢
You contradict yourself badly.

You just accused me for allowing discrimination, yet you discriminate me or us as "满嘴谎言的共产国家培养出来的" from "美国人" glorified as  " with a heart of LIBERTY, EQUALITY and FRATERNITY",  and the worse, you demand me "记住了".

You are the pronounced discriminator with a great deal of arrogance.

The worst, you don't even seem to have the slightest bit of awareness about your own misconduct.

中间小谢
This is false.

"说出歧视语言的人却不去举报"

The man did not speak out openly towards anyone. He was murmuring to himself, I just happened to hear it since I was sitting closer. You can't report this to the police for one's murmuring. It would only make yourself appear excessively vulnerable.

I was just reminding someone the tension there was real since he didn't seem to think so. Then someone else started twisting my comment. 

I am not interested in that kind of game.

 

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MoonlightBee
You are wrong. Talk to the police and see what they will

say to you.

中间小谢
Yes, this is why I say he is the pronounced discriminator

and with a great deal of arrogance and ignorance.

 

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MoonlightBee
let's stop here. I don't want to repeat my comments to you.
中间小谢
You act like a newcomer.

This is also why I pointed out many of you typically act like fresh tourists even 20 years into your American lives that you so much glorify.

You should help yourself to figure why you still have that kind of newcomer mindset.

 

 

中间小谢
You started it, I myself never like that kind of game.

All I am doing is to point out how you contradict yourself.

 

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MoonlightBee
This is why you can't become Iris Shun-Ru Chang.

You represent the typical rot of the human nature.

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MoonlightBee
All my comments to you are greatly valid. Take them and you

are welcome.

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MoonlightBee
What game? You posted in a public forum and I commented

based on your behavior. Who is playing game with you? Are you crazy?

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snowandlotus
确实。积习难改。
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snowandlotus
网管,用音乐缅怀一位令全世界善良、正义的人尊敬的女士,这么沉重的一个贴,就被人参攻击若干次,请警告一下。请不要删,晾着

这是其中之一:

中间小谢
你好像無論說什么都忘了你自己的樣子。等你也成為張純如了,就籌款也給你建個紀念館。

 

I am waiting to see your guts.

 

 

 

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MoonlightBee
你哪只眼睛看到过我说要成为她或者我能成为她,认真读帖。

我们学张纯如什么呢?这是我们应该思考的,光是锦上添花的赞美感觉在其次。

学习她勇敢,实事求是的精神,她做了多少实地采访和考察,查找了多少的资料。。。等等等等

不能否认美国的教育绝对对她价值观和世界观是有影响的。在深一步思考,为什么中国没有培养出一个张纯如?

有没有橘生淮南则为橘 生于淮北则为枳的影响。

中间小谢
So you are admitting that you don't have guts.

Then why should you demand something you don't have from others?

Can you try not to contradict yourself just once ?

 

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MoonlightBee
You don't need to be her to fight against racists as far as

you are a quialified humanbeing.  Of course, person like you, you can follow her spirit and learn from her since you have guts to always talk about her.  Do what she would do but not just talk. Understand?