BREAKING: Trump has said on Putin: "He wants to make a deal [on Ukraine]. And he doesn’t have to make a deal, because if he wanted, he’d get the whole country.”
基辅自己官媒。 基辅独立报 https://kyivindependent.com/secret-russian-plan-sees-ukraine-cut-into-3-parts-intelligence-source-confirms/ Editor's Note: This story was updated to correct some of the wording and emphasize that the existence of the alleged plan couldn't be independently confirmed by the Kyiv Independent. Russia may try to convey to U.S. leadership its plan for a new world order up to the year 2045, including a scheme to break Ukraine up into three parts, the Interfax Ukraine news agency reported on Nov. 20, citing its sources in a Ukrainian intelligence agency. A Ukrainian intelligence source also separately told the Kyiv Independent they know of such a plan. The Kyiv Independent couldn't independently verify this information. Moreover, it's not clear what is the status of the Russian document obtained by the Ukrainian intelligence — whether it's an actual plan of the Russian leadership, a draft proposal, or something else. Its exact author is also unknown. Ukraine's intelligence claimed that it was developed by the Russian Defense Ministry. According to the alleged document, which intelligence sources described to the media, Russia wants Ukraine divided into thirds. The country's eastern regions, including partially and fully Russian-occupied territories, would be annexed by Russia. The western lands would be "disputed territories" that could be claimed by neighboring countries, including Poland, Hungary, and Romania. The remaining territory, including Kyiv, would become a Russian-controlled puppet state. The document envisages the effective dissolution of the independent Ukrainian state. Russia reportedly launches intercontinental ballistic missile against Ukraine — what we know so far The document also puts forward four different scenarios of global world order development — two seen as favorable to Moscow and two disadvantageous. Two of the scenarios, labeled "Formation of a multipolar world and the division of spheres of influence by leading actors" and "Regionalization/chaotization," involve a Russian victory over Ukraine. The others, "Dominance of the U.S. and the West" and "Acquisition by China of the status of the world's leading power," presuppose a military defeat in Ukraine. The alleged plan, if proved real, would mark another Russian attempt to put forward suggestions for the disruption and recreation of a global world order. The Kremlin convened meetings in 2022 and 2023 to find ways to dismantle the post-World War II global financial system and undermine U.S. power over global transactions, according to documents obtained by the Washington Post. "One of the most important tasks is to create a new world order," one of the documents dated April 3, 2023, reportedly said. "Western countries led by the United States have tried to impose their own structure, based on their dominance." The alleged new plan's proposed breakup of Ukraine reflect the maximalist goals of Russia's full-scale invasion, which included regime change in Kyiv and "demilitarization" of the Ukrainian state.
uosff 发表于 2025-02-21 13:54 BREAKING: Trump has said on Putin: "He wants to make a deal [on Ukraine]. And he doesn’t have to make a deal, because if he wanted, he’d get the whole country.”
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俄罗斯这么折腾的point是?一个被美国和北约干了几十年的国家,因为对方给了个甜枣突然就甘心做对方的小弟了?5岁小孩都没这么容易被骗。
活捉山顶洞人一个☝️ 既然有差距,美国应该完全不怕中国汽车进入来竞争吧?
说的是汽车,跟其他没关系。以澳大利亚成熟汽车市场为例,没有本地汽车行业保护政策,中国车厂与欧洲日本韩国车厂零距离拼刺刀有十年了,市场占有率也就10%(不包括上海Tesla)。 拼多多策略可以短时间内占领一定市场,但往后就的拼质量了。
不同意你对于国产车的判断。
现在,中国品牌车,在俄罗斯新车市场(含准新车),超过半壁江山,另外还有套壳江淮的俄罗斯莫斯科人品牌,合计大约60%多。其中大约20万台,就是倒爷从中国倒过去的准新车。
所谓有点问题的,就只是,倒爷从中国倒过去的准新车里的一小部分,主要是镀锌的部位不够多,在俄罗斯半年冬天,到处撒盐泥浆溅起来后,腐蚀特别大的环境里,在有些边角部位会部分起锈。而,中国的冬天短,撒盐不多,没必要全车内外上下都要镀锌。但是,在俄罗斯开厂的长城奇瑞吉利,就已经是几乎全车镀锌了。在哈萨克和乌兹别克斯坦的中国合资厂,也是几乎全车镀锌了。
而中国车,在全车框架稳定性,几十万公里后不松垮,整车性价比,数码和舒适配置,辅助驾驶,撞击后的安全,依然是吊打所有德日韩车的。(youtube上的俄语区,有很多冬天时,高速路上打滑,中国车与其他品牌车相撞后的结果视频)
当然,开放后,日本车韩国车德国车,会抢回一些市场,但肯定远远远地回不到原来的位置了,因为,卢布贬值和车价通胀后,俄罗斯买得起的人,会迟疑的。
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看了计划,东部四州+克里米亚,划给俄罗斯。 切尔尼戈夫,苏梅,哈尔科夫,第聂伯,尼古拉耶夫,熬德萨成立新国家,叫做俄克兰,不是俄罗斯领土,但是由俄罗斯驻军管辖。
这是想要教皇宣布普京是大帝把。
这也太便宜俄罗斯了!
感觉很奇怪,如果打仗话,俄罗斯根本打不下这么多领土。
真的这么搞,估计连挺俄派都看不下去了。司机啊
这不就是以前所有战争的真相吗 伊拉克战争不就是这样
俄罗斯这么搞,肯定是出卖中国啊。怎么可能拿这么多啊。
No way. 现在俄罗斯什么都不用做,拿到最多。这叫Art of deal. 一让步就没deal了。就是要PUA 川普。
东大旁边拿着小本本拼命记录 - 打下台湾后,就算被制裁,只要熬几年就过去了。话说三年前习选择不跟风欧美制裁俄罗斯,都被骂疯了。现在回头看,还是人家看得长远。
请问这个有没有比较正式的出处?太匪夷所思了
笑死,切尔尼戈夫驻军,大炮直接可以射到基辅, 这不是压住乌克兰脖子一样!
俄罗斯就是一个小国家,有核武器,有军事,不屈从,就有地位和认同。
美国这下把底裤都脱光了,下次台海战韩国和日本敢参与的话,可能最后会被美国逼着割让领土给中国了。
现在还有谁不相信川普是恶罗斯间谍的吗?
中饱私囊的估计被免罪了吧
基辅自己官媒。 基辅独立报
https://kyivindependent.com/secret-russian-plan-sees-ukraine-cut-into-3-parts-intelligence-source-confirms/ Editor's Note: This story was updated to correct some of the wording and emphasize that the existence of the alleged plan couldn't be independently confirmed by the Kyiv Independent. Russia may try to convey to U.S. leadership its plan for a new world order up to the year 2045, including a scheme to break Ukraine up into three parts, the Interfax Ukraine news agency reported on Nov. 20, citing its sources in a Ukrainian intelligence agency. A Ukrainian intelligence source also separately told the Kyiv Independent they know of such a plan. The Kyiv Independent couldn't independently verify this information.
Moreover, it's not clear what is the status of the Russian document obtained by the Ukrainian intelligence — whether it's an actual plan of the Russian leadership, a draft proposal, or something else. Its exact author is also unknown. Ukraine's intelligence claimed that it was developed by the Russian Defense Ministry. According to the alleged document, which intelligence sources described to the media, Russia wants Ukraine divided into thirds. The country's eastern regions, including partially and fully Russian-occupied territories, would be annexed by Russia. The western lands would be "disputed territories" that could be claimed by neighboring countries, including Poland, Hungary, and Romania. The remaining territory, including Kyiv, would become a Russian-controlled puppet state. The document envisages the effective dissolution of the independent Ukrainian state. Russia reportedly launches intercontinental ballistic missile against Ukraine — what we know so far
国际体育比赛还是有俄罗斯运动员的,不过他们以个人名义参赛,不能代表俄罗斯参赛。
我觉得台湾日本韩国和其它跟着米帝制造中国周边地缘局势危机的,看了这deal都会瑟瑟发抖,搞不好狐假虎威不成,随后自己被虎卖了
我现在觉得如果川普动作快点,把台积电这几年就搬空,估计不会有台海战争了
本来踢出去就很傻的行为,以为给人扔了个核弹,结果对人没什么伤害,还损害自己。重新接入也算亡羊补牢。不过这无法掩盖创普对俄乌无比脑残的其他行为。
确实是大国风范, 牛!
这是假消息
没看到任何正规大媒体讲这事
而且Swift总部在欧洲,虽然是美国人主导,但也需要欧洲人点头。。
不太可能,现在是川川比较着急,吹出去的24小时停战的牛,没有普京配合如何完成,而普京现在反而不着急了,但凡有点脑子的,必须要吊着川川要一个好deal
这还不明白么,中国一直倡导和平,早就支持停战,现在中国支持美国的停战协议,倒是留下欧洲风中凌乱
死了这么多人还吊着。你可笑死个人了。谈不成,巨巨再反过来打,不废一天的功夫。
这次巴黎奥运禁得很彻底, 以前是因为俄国违禁药的问题禁了以国家名义参赛,个人参赛可以, 赢了金牌升国际奥委会的旗子, 但24年巴黎奥运是彻底禁了, 如果要以俄国国籍参赛, 必须声明反战。 所以几乎没有俄国队了, 比如体操, 艺术体操等。 这几年花滑的国际大赛都没有俄国运动员了,22年起俄罗斯套娃都没能参加任何国际大赛了。
俄罗斯是白人! 真不好说
挺可笑的,连现在谁求谁还看不出来吗?是个人都看出来了,谁不急谁着急。
巨巨打脸也不是一次两次了,他有啥好着急的? 普大帝都快要饭了,急啥。
谁更着急,谁跳的最高,有眼的应该能看出,巨巨要是敢打过去,也不会有这个协议,这是要乌克兰无条件投降,这么歪屁股的拉架你觉得川川会打过去么 lol
巨巨一屁三谎的,也就你拿巨巨当圣旨。
活该!
谁横谁有理。这世道,没眼看。。
一匹三谎,那也是美国总统呀,牛都吹出去了,而且协议也出来了,这场交易中普京肯定是没有任何损失,倒是川川和美国要被全世界笑话了
川普上台时说,不急着和习近平联系,就是要卖掉乌克兰的土地,取悦俄国,然后,利用俄国来遏制中国的发展。
毕竟现在中国是美国和欧洲的眼中钉,中国国内产能过剩,需要西方市场的购买力。俄国没有实力去打欧洲,本身经济也没什么发展,对欧洲不构成威胁。
唉,国内怎么应对这个世界局势。。。
这事得问问乌克兰人民一票一票民主选上去的总统,还得问问美国人民一票一票民主选上去的总统!
其实中国理论可以趁机拉拢欧洲,但是中国也不可能丢俄罗斯这个盟友。突然想从未来的人角度看这段历史真是太精彩了,不弱于三国演义。
真的假的?俄罗斯啥都没干 美国立马跪了
王毅已经贴到乌克兰身上。 连老胡都跳出来说 挺乌的部分人的声音应该可以表达 情况很严重了 lol
无论这协议公不公平、对自己有不有利,中国都不得不支持。否则的话,中国一下子同时得罪美、俄这俩超级大国!
没事, 中国是怼天怼地的那咋, 不要说两个大国了, 100个都没问题。 破烂落后的美国算个鸟?
别说啥乌克兰大半个欧洲,俄罗斯就算是想把阿拉斯加要回去,川大大也双手奉上,毕竟对自己亲爹有什么是不能给的?
中国要赶紧收复台湾,不然台积电要被搬空了。台积电估计要成为中美的筹码,看谁能得
希望如此。
中国为什么会这么支持俄罗斯呢?
停战也不能让俄美吞并这么多利益呀。
美国打一开始就支持二毛开战也是援助二毛最多的那个,他们怎么分蛋糕只要双方满意,毕竟美国即出钱又出力那么卖力,停战了想收回点投资也是无可厚非
以色列:糟糕,我成野爹了😭
你有病吧
中国能不表态吗?急急忙忙表态算什么。
中国一直以来就是要求停战的,可惜美国不干呀,要乌克兰战死最后一个,现在终于有停战希望,中国为啥不立马表态
我觉得中国危险了。
中国是要求停战,但不是这样的停战。这就相当于支持当年的列强瓜分清朝一样。
我对中国处理俄乌问题挺失望的。不要表态就行了。
不可能给敖德萨吧… 直接变内陆国家了
你以为普京傻啊?北约跟着美国差点把他搞死,他怎么可能相信美国?
只要能收复台湾,台积电要不要无所谓啦。
那些运动员真是可怜!牺牲品
中国这次处理俄乌问题就是个傻逼,应该和欧洲和乌克兰目前站在一起。
LOL
这个王毅就是个傻叉,这个时候就不要参合进去。参合进去都会得罪人。
中国上周也说过, 对话应该包括欧洲, 毕竟关系欧洲安全
中国一直是两边兼顾...之前强调西方要听听俄罗斯的顾虑, 现在强调要听听欧洲的顾虑....虽然只是姿态,但是是个上得了台面的立场
美国想把整个乌克兰给俄罗斯,但是俄罗斯坚持,西部可以争议领土回归波兰,摩尔多瓦,罗马尼亚等国家
还有俄克兰只要是不反俄的政府就行
感觉俄罗斯有东正教信仰 运气不错