隔壁贴说到ICE去学校抓人，还真可信啊。 https://www.newsweek.com/new-jersey-immigration-raid-newark-trump-2020060 “A mayor in New Jersey said Thursday that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents raided "a local establishment" in Newark, New Jersey without a warrant and detained undocumented people, as well as citizens.” Update: 现在就是根据外貌来抓，即使后面自证合法身份，这个被拘留的过程非常侮辱性啊，靠边、举手、投降、上手铐、坐警车、被羁押，等家人拿来身份证明或等ICE調查完身份再放人。这过程怎么也得小半天，试想在公司同事们的众目睽睽下被铐走，颜面而在？
Tinoy003 发表于 2025-01-24 00:34 隔壁贴说到ICE去学校抓人，还真可信啊。 https://www.newsweek.com/new-jersey-immigration-raid-newark-trump-2020060 “A mayor in New Jersey said Thursday that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents raided "a local establishment" in Newark, New Jersey without a warrant and detained undocumented people, as well as citizens.” Update: 现在就是根据外貌来抓，即使后面自证合法身份，这个被拘留的过程非常侮辱性啊，靠边、举手、投降、上手铐、坐警车、被羁押，等家人拿来身份证明或等ICE調查完身份再放人。这过程怎么也得小半天，试想在公司同事们的众目睽睽下被铐走，颜面而在？
https://www.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/s4z1jk/til_connie_chung_the_1st_asian_person_and_the_2nd/ Connie Chung, the 1st Asian person and the 2nd woman to anchor one of America''''s major network newscasts (CBS), in 1994 called all Chinese Americans ''''sleeper agents'''' 1994年Connie Chung在CBS的访谈: Connie Chung: And later, Eye on America, Tonight, how a foreign power may be planting the seeds in your backyard. ...... Chung: Comming up next, Eye on America. Tonight, the biggest spy network in America. We''''''''ll tell you who''''''''s running it and how. The recent Ames spy case served as a reminder that the espionage business inthis country is still thriving; that you don''''''''t always find spies in trenchcoats and that you could find them in the house next door. In a specialinvestigation, CBS News found out how China is grooming agents to keep an Eyeon America. Unidentified Woman: Only US citizens continue straight ahead. Chung: Every day, planeloads of Chinese citizens arrive legally in the United States, ordinary people. But to the Chinese government, some of them may be future spies, who a few year down the road, will be activated to steal America''''''''s military and technological secrets, whether they want to or not. Are there any other contries that you know of that have this kind of spy network operating here in the United States? Nicholas Eftimiades (Defence Information Agency): No. Not-certainly not to this--to this degree. Chung: Nicholas Eftimiades, who works for an American spy agency, the Defense Information Agency. His new book on Chinese intelligence raise questions for American government and business. Eftimiades: I don''''''''t think we can say at this point any Western government is prepared to deal with this type of espionage threat, because it''''''''s different from anything that we''''''''ve known to date. Chung: It all start here in Beijing. A Chinese student or scientist or businessperson applies for a visa to go to the US. Then the Ministry of State Security asking questions: What cab you learn in the State> Will you be working with computer? Will you be loyal to China? And most importantly, can you be patient? Eftimiades says the prospective spies are trained, paid and warned to stay in touch, ''''''''Remember.'''''''' they are told. ''''''''we''''''''ll be watching your family members in China.'''''''' ''''''''Lay low until you''''''''re contacted.'''''''' they are told. It could be years. Eftimiades: Let me put it to you in the terms that the Chinese Intelligence Service describes it: Chen di yu, which is a Ministry of State Security slang term for fish on the bottom of the ocean. This has been defined in Western espionage as sleeper agents. Chung: So they just sit there like fish at the bottom of the ocean and do nothing? Eftimiades: They wait. Chung: Until they have to surface. Eftimiades: Exactly. Chung: This man is one of those Chinese fish at the bottom of the American ocean. Call him a reluctant spy. he''''''''s afraid he''''''''ll be contacted soon to hand over state-of-the-art computer programs. Unidentified Man #1: Never forget, you belong to our organization. Chung: “Never forget," they told him, '''''''' you belong to our organization.'''''''' Man #1: You were sent by our organization. Chung: '''''''' You were sent by our organization, and this organization belongs to the Communist Party.'''''''' Man #1: ...Communist Party. Chung: Twenty-three years ago this man, Kao Yen Men, came to the US. In recent years, he lived a quiet life in this house in Charlotte, North Carolina, and he even bought a restaurant in downtown Charlotte. His neighbors never knew what he was up to. Unidentified Man #2: I really didn''''''''t know what to think. I mean, you know, we came down to this nice little Southern city, and the next thing you know I''''''''m down the street from a spy. I thought this was, like, a little friction movie or something, but... Chung: Some movie. After a six-year FBI investigation, Kao was arrested and charged with trying to steal the advanced Mar 48 torpedo, engine for the FA-18 Hornet jet fighter and radar for the F-16 Falcon jet. Kao was caught, but security expert Pat Pattakos says most American companies are too naive about the Chinese spy threat. Mr. Arion "Pat" Pattakos (Beta Analysis): Right now a lot of people don''''''''t really think of the protecting themselves. Chung: Especially when the target is information and computer data... Pattakos: They''''''''ll look at all this information here that they can access. Unidentified man #3: Yes. Chung: ...all part of the more and more accessible information superhighway. Pattakos: I mean, it''''''''s very easy to know when a truck is missing in front of your place. I mean, it''''''''s gone. It''''''''s physical object. But think about information. Information is more intangible, and people may not know--realize that it''''''''s lost. Chung: Pattakos says a new national strategy between business and government can trap the spies. Eftimiades is much less optimistic. Eftimiades: Once these spies get into American society, once they''''''''re deeply rooted into our structure, our society''''''''s structure, we''''''''re not going to be able to detect them. There is no way to stop them at this point. Chung: The FBI is trying to help American corporation protect themselves from espionage. The bureau has a program now to brief executives about how their companies could become targets. Dan.
Tinoy003 发表于 2025-01-24 00:34 隔壁贴说到ICE去学校抓人，还真可信啊。 https://www.newsweek.com/new-jersey-immigration-raid-newark-trump-2020060 “A mayor in New Jersey said Thursday that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents raided "a local establishment" in Newark, New Jersey without a warrant and detained undocumented people, as well as citizens.” Update: 现在就是根据外貌来抓，即使后面自证合法身份，这个被拘留的过程非常侮辱性啊，靠边、举手、投降、上手铐、坐警车、被羁押，等家人拿来身份证明或等ICE調查完身份再放人。这过程怎么也得小半天，试想在公司同事们的众目睽睽下被铐走，颜面而在？
NEW YORK CITY (WABC) -- Federal law enforcement and ICE agents have arrested over 500 undocumented migrants wanted for outstanding crimes in sanctuary cities, including three in New York. ICE says it has made 538 arrests, and detained 373 undocumented immigrants in sanctuary cities across the country. In New York, ICE agents arrested an alleged El Salvadorian MS-13 gang member, a Jamaican citizen who had been arrested for sexual exploitation of a minor and a Honduran citizen with a drunk driving conviction. 纽约抓的三个直接deport了吧!
https://www.newsweek.com/new-jersey-immigration-raid-newark-trump-2020060
“A mayor in New Jersey said Thursday that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents raided "a local establishment" in Newark, New Jersey without a warrant and detained undocumented people, as well as citizens.”
Update: 现在就是根据外貌来抓，即使后面自证合法身份，这个被拘留的过程非常侮辱性啊，靠边、举手、投降、上手铐、坐警车、被羁押，等家人拿来身份证明或等ICE調查完身份再放人。这过程怎么也得小半天，试想在公司同事们的众目睽睽下被铐走，颜面而在？
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洗得非常辛苦。
去犯罪窝点抓好了，小学里面会是犯罪分子窝点？
雇主肯定也是要惩罚的。。
打击非法移民，肯定是多管齐下才能奏效。。
说了半天你终于说到点子上了。非法移民就是经济问题，美国经济好自然有非移上门。狠狠罚雇主，让非移找不到工作，你看还有非移来不？共和党一边叫唤遣返非移，一边悄悄让被吓走的企业赶紧回红州、我们那是做秀。这次也是跑去蓝州闹腾，不赶紧在红州闹腾一下、打击一下本州雇主？
在maga眼里你的皮决定了你是垃圾，you don’t have a choice
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我们川粉出门都戴MAGA小红帽背诵川总语录，是自己人，不会被抓的。
华人川粉去trump rally都被白川粉diss，叫滚回中国。自己人是自我麻痹吧，只要远远的溜边，就不会轮到我。 看看昨天trump的团队都说原住民不是美国公民了。
30多年过去了
那时ICE需要拿warrant才能进门搜查吧？现在警察随时能进门，如何保证里面没有腐败？
时代进步了，有些人永远活在过去
强盗治国
进步个啥，老百姓日子越过越差， 比以前差远了。美国就是这样，经济一旦不好，就拿移民开刀。90年代如此，现在如此，以前更是如此。
有没有可能老百姓日子差是因为那些巨富吸血太狠了？
护照没用，归化入籍的直接给你废了，在这里生的也要查三代看是不是正宗美国人
可以保命的就是小红帽，川币，和捐款单
如果打砸抢国会，什么搞暗网卖毒品贩卖人口，那更好了，成为英雄，马上赦免。
看看隔壁的vivek ramaswamy帖
克林顿年代是公认的美国历史上发展最快的时代吧，到你嘴里成什么了
我没去查你说的克林顿时代的事儿是不是真的，但是如果是真的，也只能说是他的历史局限，他只属于上一个世纪。请问，你有那么老朽吗？
因为红州大抵都是川普赢
是呀，但是矛头永远都指向移民， 总归要找替罪羊。中美关系不也一样。以前那么好，现在呢？
红州农场主基本盘不让啊，雇佣非法移民是公开的秘密🤫
那是谁带头把移民当替罪羊的？承认事实有这么难吗？
看看历史就知道的，美国骨子里从来没有变过。九十年代就说中国学者是间谍,现在不一样吗？都是统治阶级的手段，还真以为社会进步了？
你贴一下具体事实，九十年代谁在什么场合说中国学者是间谍？如果是政客又具体提出什么法案抓间谍？如果是总统具体采取了什么类似于Chinese initiative 这样的行政手段？
没有不承认事实呀，当然是懂王。但是如果左右一起攻击H1B, 连墨西哥人都支持deport, 加上小红书上的美国人号称要卖血付bill, 还能指望美国会对移民友好吗？
你查一下CBS的主播Connie Chung吧，看她在新闻里是怎么污蔑中国留学生和学者的。
新闻里说昨天全国已经抓了几百人了。
包括那位美国籍的退伍军官？ 这些抓的都核实身份了？
现在是先抓你，你举证。没有证件先抓进去再说，错了，你自己倒霉。
好像现在都是先抓了再说
所以抓了几百人最后可能就几个 这真是宁可错杀三千不能放过一个
然后抓的直觉就是肤色
一样被白川粉扇呀， 你也配戴 MAGA小红帽？
那些说real id有用的版上id出来走走啊，上次讨论还信誓旦旦觉得自己高人一等的样子
现在ICE 还没得到国会的拨款，还是小范围， 等the Laken Riley Act 签字成法律，ICE 拿到钱，雇更多的打手，集中营在德州扩建好，大规模抓铺就开始了。
身边土生土长的中年ABC都害怕，在研究去哪个国家
也不知道有些华人哪来的自信岁月静好，靠当蠢货鸵鸟？
华人神棍， 有上帝保佑， 应该好些吧？
紅帽有啥用，要漂個白皮
李文和你听说过吗？
九十年代就出现了个李文和已经搞得世界皆知，川黄时代出现了多少个李文和还不是屁都没放
美国倒行逆施，现在比九十年代还不如得多。
民主党党中央是解散了吗？居然一堆赞成的。
随身带上护照很难吗？ 在国内也随身带身份证啊
有道理，那些被美国白人公民撞成重伤的，也应该非常支持抓美国白人公民。
一个电视台主播乱叫几句，和一国总统直接用行政手段抓人，是一个档次的吗？
孙志刚你听说过吗？
是人人都带么还是非白人要带？ 美国可是绝大多数人没护照的
希望大家讨论中国的时候也能考虑到时代和国情。
红州的农场主真的需要非移劳动力啊
还有80年代的陈果仁案
赞思路逻辑！以前种族隔离也是正常的。不如把咱华裔的孩子都从学校里隔离开来上课？哦，不用上课，直接抓去做苦力好了，以前雇佣童工也不犯法。既然以前这些事儿都有过，那咱也别挑三拣四的，都按照以前的方式来？
Connie Chung, the 1st Asian person and the 2nd woman to anchor one of America''''s major network newscasts (CBS), in 1994 called all Chinese Americans ''''sleeper agents''''
1994年Connie Chung在CBS的访谈:
Connie Chung: And later, Eye on America, Tonight, how a foreign power may be planting the seeds in your backyard. ...... Chung: Comming up next, Eye on America. Tonight, the biggest spy network in America. We''''''''ll tell you who''''''''s running it and how. The recent Ames spy case served as a reminder that the espionage business in this country is still thriving; that you don''''''''t always find spies in trench coats and that you could find them in the house next door. In a special investigation, CBS News found out how China is grooming agents to keep an Eye on America. Unidentified Woman: Only US citizens continue straight ahead. Chung: Every day, planeloads of Chinese citizens arrive legally in the United States, ordinary people. But to the Chinese government, some of them may be future spies, who a few year down the road, will be activated to steal America''''''''s military and technological secrets, whether they want to or not. Are there any other contries that you know of that have this kind of spy network operating here in the United States? Nicholas Eftimiades (Defence Information Agency): No. Not-certainly not to this--to this degree. Chung: Nicholas Eftimiades, who works for an American spy agency, the Defense Information Agency. His new book on Chinese intelligence raise questions for American government and business. Eftimiades: I don''''''''t think we can say at this point any Western government is prepared to deal with this type of espionage threat, because it''''''''s different from anything that we''''''''ve known to date. Chung: It all start here in Beijing. A Chinese student or scientist or businessperson applies for a visa to go to the US. Then the Ministry of State Security asking questions: What cab you learn in the State> Will you be working with computer? Will you be loyal to China? And most importantly, can you be patient? Eftimiades says the prospective spies are trained, paid and warned to stay in touch, ''''''''Remember.'''''''' they are told. ''''''''we''''''''ll be watching your family members in China.'''''''' ''''''''Lay low until you''''''''re contacted.'''''''' they are told. It could be years. Eftimiades: Let me put it to you in the terms that the Chinese Intelligence Service describes it: Chen di yu, which is a Ministry of State Security slang term for fish on the bottom of the ocean. This has been defined in Western espionage as sleeper agents. Chung: So they just sit there like fish at the bottom of the ocean and do nothing? Eftimiades: They wait. Chung: Until they have to surface. Eftimiades: Exactly. Chung: This man is one of those Chinese fish at the bottom of the American ocean. Call him a reluctant spy. he''''''''s afraid he''''''''ll be contacted soon to hand over state-of-the-art computer programs. Unidentified Man #1: Never forget, you belong to our organization. Chung: “Never forget," they told him, '''''''' you belong to our organization.'''''''' Man #1: You were sent by our organization. Chung: '''''''' You were sent by our organization, and this organization belongs to the Communist Party.'''''''' Man #1: ...Communist Party. Chung: Twenty-three years ago this man, Kao Yen Men, came to the US. In recent years, he lived a quiet life in this house in Charlotte, North Carolina, and he even bought a restaurant in downtown Charlotte. His neighbors never knew what he was up to. Unidentified Man #2: I really didn''''''''t know what to think. I mean, you know, we came down to this nice little Southern city, and the next thing you know I''''''''m down the street from a spy. I thought this was, like, a little friction movie or something, but... Chung: Some movie. After a six-year FBI investigation, Kao was arrested and charged with trying to steal the advanced Mar 48 torpedo, engine for the FA-18 Hornet jet fighter and radar for the F-16 Falcon jet. Kao was caught, but security expert Pat Pattakos says most American companies are too naive about the Chinese spy threat. Mr. Arion "Pat" Pattakos (Beta Analysis): Right now a lot of people don''''''''t really think of the protecting themselves. Chung: Especially when the target is information and computer data... Pattakos: They''''''''ll look at all this information here that they can access. Unidentified man #3: Yes. Chung: ...all part of the more and more accessible information superhighway. Pattakos: I mean, it''''''''s very easy to know when a truck is missing in front of your place. I mean, it''''''''s gone. It''''''''s physical object. But think about information. Information is more intangible, and people may not know--realize that it''''''''s lost. Chung: Pattakos says a new national strategy between business and government can trap the spies. Eftimiades is much less optimistic. Eftimiades: Once these spies get into American society, once they''''''''re deeply rooted into our structure, our society''''''''s structure, we''''''''re not going to be able to detect them. There is no way to stop them at this point. Chung: The FBI is trying to help American corporation protect themselves from espionage. The bureau has a program now to brief executives about how their companies could become targets. Dan.
而且说的理直气壮，一副天下不准负我的气势。 和华川粉一样，就许白人黑人西班牙后裔（主要是黑人和其他有色人种）挖资本主义墙角，不许我父母来蹭点拿点？至于我是当经济担保人，就是句p话谁还当真
只要对所有人都一视同仁，比如，土生土长的美国白人，如果查到了，没有证明自己公民身份的证件，就一样扣住不放，那也可以啊。。。我就不信一般美国人会接受这个。。。
嗯，解散了对。反正都是白皮，白左白右一家亲，一起跟着川皇混就行了。
不少红州已经签订法案降低打工年龄了 那些家禽屠宰场就雇佣不少童工
没有任何赔偿。是个合法的正经人，有车保险吧？
新闻里说的是他没有有效证件。 并没说他有没有提供real id, 😂 你不知道吧 我们这边到现在real id 也没完全实行 😂 已经一推再推 现在说 25/5/7 鬼知道是不是还要继续拖延
所以现在变成强调“合法的正经人，有车保险”了？
那要是再被指出合法的人也有不少没有保险的，是不是又要强调“正经人，有车保险”了？那要再被追问“正经人”是如何定义的呢？
所以对您来说，最后实质还是对方有没有车保险嘛。。。
说半截话，或者一开始就搞不清楚重点的情况，就是这样子的。。。
上帝保佑的是黄神棍吗？ 上帝保佑的是白嫡子。
嗯，你和你的肇事者会在ice集中营团聚的。
对，以前华工当猪仔修铁路也是正常的。
恶毒
美国一直就是这样，还真以为是灯塔国？以前有陈果仁，李文和，现在有陈霞芬，希小星，还有陈刚。只要经济不好，就会有人煽动反移民。区区250年的历史，杀光印第安人，把黑人当奴隶，排华，排日，驱逐墨西哥人，抓中国间谍，这样的事干了不知道多少。将来怎样，还真不好说。
哈 没保险的白人多了去了。
国内谁随身带身份证啊，出门只带手机都多少年了
左左（不分颜色，不分社会地位和职务）们造谣总是这么的低劣粗糙。反正也没脸没皮的，被揭穿了当没看见，换个地方把同样的谣言再发一遍。
你把护照刻脑门上吧，国内谁出门带身份证？老奶奶四十年没回国了吧。
人家都被放了，也就是说他的证件其实是合法的，只是被怀疑了，那你的realid 是不是也可以被怀疑啊
他可能是个老古董，国内连驾照都可以办电子的大部分情况就够用了
你给贴个链接辟个谣呗?
就是你们这些川粉把罪犯选上台，选种族歧视的MAGA党，造成的后果。，你们也知道经济不好，民粹就煽动种族仇恨，为何偏要选MAGA 党。觉的自己精神白人，带MAGA帽就没事啦！还是选了罪犯把国家搞乱，少数族裔受罪，你们很开心！
楼上那位说的是没办法证伪的。。。
比如，她就算找不到办法“辟谣”，她也可以把自己定义为“左左”，那么她自己那段话就符合了她对“左左”的描述，于是 -> 她结论成立。
国内的身份证是对应驾照或者real ID吧？类似的要求是要求出门随身带户口本
这些川粉就是头埋沙子里就等啥时候他们自己被抓看看他们说啥了
我队友几个月前就被个土生土长的白女撞了，没有保险。
那是因为国内现在只需要刷脸, 美国哪有那么高级的数据库
明明只要对暴力罪重判 以及把边境管理好就可以。非得在美国国内大搞白色恐怖。
这些人都会被写在历史的耻辱柱上，他们面对子孙的时候有脸承认自己是川粉吗
更无耻的就是把I-129和I-140的费用加了Asylum Fee，完全不要脸。他把非法移民放进来做政治庇护，为啥要legal immigrant出这个钱
纽约抓的三个直接deport了吧!
native American 是美国的原住民， 不是白人..
他只是被ice放了，并不能证明军队文件是真的。 只能证明他移民身份是真的。 ice 又不抓其他类的文件造假， 这是state police 或者fbi 的工作 Real id 那不是你run一下驾照真假不就知道是真是假了
“ICE says it has made 538 arrests, and detained 373 undocumented immigrants”,所以那165个没拘留的为啥？公民和pr？这误抓率太高了吧
是啊， 以后去中国城估计都得带美国护照或绿卡了..