如果是在加州，婚内财产共同拥有一人一半。一方去世全部归另一方，不可以用立遗产来支配自己一半。这是法律，当然如果配偶同意，咋分配都行。也就是说，想要把一半分给子女，有2个选择，一是离婚，二是配偶配合。 CA is a community property state, which means that all assets and income accumulated during a marriage (or domestic partnership) is considered community property unless otherwise specified by both spouses/partners as separate property. In other words, both spouses are treated as if they own the property equally, even if the asset is the name of one spouse only. When property is deemed community property, the surviving spouse is the sole heir for 100% of the deceased’s community property assets, regardless of any legal arrangements (contracts, wills, prior transfers) an individual made. CA has essentially deemed all community property as jointly held assets, regardless of whether they are held in a single name. This means that they cannot transfer to anyone else without the express consent of the spouse.
RedCrayon 发表于 2024-10-14 11:27 如果是在加州，婚内财产共同拥有一人一半。一方去世全部归另一方，不可以用立遗产来支配自己一半。这是法律，当然如果配偶同意，咋分配都行。也就是说，想要把一半分给子女，有2个选择，一是离婚，二是配偶配合。 CA is a community property state, which means that all assets and income accumulated during a marriage (or domestic partnership) is considered community property unless otherwise specified by both spouses/partners as separate property. In other words, both spouses are treated as if they own the property equally, even if the asset is the name of one spouse only. When property is deemed community property, the surviving spouse is the sole heir for 100% of the deceased’s community property assets, regardless of any legal arrangements (contracts, wills, prior transfers) an individual made. CA has essentially deemed all community property as jointly held assets, regardless of whether they are held in a single name. This means that they cannot transfer to anyone else without the express consent of the spouse.
如果是在加州，婚内财产共同拥有一人一半。一方去世全部归另一方，不可以用立遗产来支配自己一半。这是法律，当然如果配偶同意，咋分配都行。也就是说，想要把一半分给子女，有2个选择，一是离婚，二是配偶配合。 CA is a community property state, which means that all assets and income accumulated during a marriage (or domestic partnership) is considered community property unless otherwise specified by both spouses/partners as separate property. In other words, both spouses are treated as if they own the property equally, even if the asset is the name of one spouse only. When property is deemed community property, the surviving spouse is the sole heir for 100% of the deceased’s community property assets, regardless of any legal arrangements (contracts, wills, prior transfers) an individual made. CA has essentially deemed all community property as jointly held assets, regardless of whether they are held in a single name. This means that they cannot transfer to anyone else without the express consent of the spouse. RedCrayon 发表于 2024-10-14 11:27
RedCrayon 发表于 2024-10-14 11:27 如果是在加州，婚内财产共同拥有一人一半。一方去世全部归另一方，不可以用立遗产来支配自己一半。这是法律，当然如果配偶同意，咋分配都行。也就是说，想要把一半分给子女，有2个选择，一是离婚，二是配偶配合。 CA is a community property state, which means that all assets and income accumulated during a marriage (or domestic partnership) is considered community property unless otherwise specified by both spouses/partners as separate property. In other words, both spouses are treated as if they own the property equally, even if the asset is the name of one spouse only. When property is deemed community property, the surviving spouse is the sole heir for 100% of the deceased’s community property assets, regardless of any legal arrangements (contracts, wills, prior transfers) an individual made. CA has essentially deemed all community property as jointly held assets, regardless of whether they are held in a single name. This means that they cannot transfer to anyone else without the express consent of the spouse.
我来引用你说的网站好了。我前面总结的没错：不能通过遗嘱剥夺配偶继承权，除非以其他方式给“补齐” Basics of California Inheritance Law A California resident cannot disinherit a spouse in a will unless they leave property and assets to the surviving spouse outside the will, with evidence of this in the will. For example, a spouse may leave the survivor with life insurance proceeds, property in a trust, and/or real property and then their remaining property to others in their will. A surviving spouse also has a right to the decedent’s half of the couple’s community property and quasi-community property. Community property typically consists of assets acquired by either or both spouses throughout a marriage.
RedCrayon 发表于 2024-10-14 12:00 我来引用你说的网站好了。我前面总结的没错：不能通过遗嘱剥夺配偶继承权，除非以其他方式给“补齐” Basics of California Inheritance Law A California resident cannot disinherit a spouse in a will unless they leave property and assets to the surviving spouse outside the will, with evidence of this in the will. For example, a spouse may leave the survivor with life insurance proceeds, property in a trust, and/or real property and then their remaining property to others in their will. A surviving spouse also has a right to the decedent’s half of the couple’s community property and quasi-community property. Community property typically consists of assets acquired by either or both spouses throughout a marriage.
RedCrayon 发表于 2024-10-14 12:00 我来引用你说的网站好了。我前面总结的没错：不能通过遗嘱剥夺配偶继承权，除非以其他方式给“补齐” Basics of California Inheritance Law A California resident cannot disinherit a spouse in a will unless they leave property and assets to the surviving spouse outside the will, with evidence of this in the will. For example, a spouse may leave the survivor with life insurance proceeds, property in a trust, and/or real property and then their remaining property to others in their will. A surviving spouse also has a right to the decedent’s half of the couple’s community property and quasi-community property. Community property typically consists of assets acquired by either or both spouses throughout a marriage.
你和他说的不一样。 纽约也是这么说的，就是你不可以一毛钱都不留给配偶aka disinherit your spouse,必须给起码1/4。比如楼主就可以写，我有一千万，500万给老公，500万给娃。就合法了啊。 人家说的很清楚了啊 “A surviving spouse also has a right to the decedent’s half of the couple’s community property and quasi-community property”。跟你说的100%都是配偶的完全不一样。
大衣被禁 发表于 2024-10-14 12:14 你和他说的不一样。 纽约也是这么说的，就是你不可以一毛钱都不留给配偶aka disinherit your spouse,必须给起码1/4。比如楼主就可以写，我有一千万，500万给老公，500万给娃。就合法了啊。 人家说的很清楚了啊 “A surviving spouse also has a right to the decedent’s half of the couple’s community property and quasi-community property”。跟你说的100%都是配偶的完全不一样。
我认为是你理解错了。下面是那个link里关于配偶被遗嘱里“omitted”时候的权利，以及“omitted”的定义。我帮你加粗了一下定义部分。所以就是说，遗嘱里是可以清楚地写明不给配偶的遗产的，下清楚了就不算被omitted了。 Rights of a Surviving Spouse ‘Omitted’ from Their Spouse’s Will If a person left out of their spouse’s will can show that they married the decedent after the execution of the decedent’s testamentary instruments, they may be entitled to a share of the decedent’s property. California law specifically addresses the estate share due to an omitted spouse, which states the omitted spouse is due: One-half of the community property that belonged to the decedent One-half of the quasi-community property that belonged to the decedent A share of the separate property that belonged to the decedent equal to what the spouse would have received if the decedent had died intestate but not more than one-half the value of the separate property in the estate. A spouse won’t be considered “omitted” if:The decedent’s will or trust makes it clear that they intentionally disinherited their spouse. The decedent sufficiently provided for the surviving spouse through other means (e.g., life insurance policies, bank accounts, gifts).
你说的这个未亡人自动继承100%，自己的50%加配偶的50%，是肯定不对的。以下是加州在没有遗嘱的情况下对资产的划分条例，即使在没有遗嘱这种情况下，在配偶有孩子的时候，未亡人都不可能拿到100%。 When a person dies without a will, or “intestate,” specific rules under state law direct how their assets should be distributed. Rules for intestate succession in California give a surviving spouse primary rights to any part of an estate not legally disposed of by a will, including rights to the decedent’s half of the couple’s community property. However, a surviving spouse may not get everything left by the decedent, particularly if the decedent has surviving children. Many assets are not subject to California’s intestate succession and probate laws.
MajiaLove 发表于 2024-10-14 12:22 我认为是你理解错了。下面是那个link里关于配偶被遗嘱里“omitted”时候的权利，以及“omitted”的定义。我帮你加粗了一下定义部分。所以就是说，遗嘱里是可以清楚地写明不给配偶的遗产的，下清楚了就不算被omitted了。 Rights of a Surviving Spouse ‘Omitted’ from Their Spouse’s Will If a person left out of their spouse’s will can show that they married the decedent after the execution of the decedent’s testamentary instruments, they may be entitled to a share of the decedent’s property. California law specifically addresses the estate share due to an omitted spouse, which states the omitted spouse is due: One-half of the community property that belonged to the decedent One-half of the quasi-community property that belonged to the decedent A share of the separate property that belonged to the decedent equal to what the spouse would have received if the decedent had died intestate but not more than one-half the value of the separate property in the estate. A spouse won’t be considered “omitted” if:The decedent’s will or trust makes it clear that they intentionally disinherited their spouse. The decedent sufficiently provided for the surviving spouse through other means (e.g., life insurance policies, bank accounts, gifts).
你说的这个未亡人自动继承100%，自己的50%加配偶的50%，是肯定不对的。以下是加州在没有遗嘱的情况下对资产的划分条例，即使在没有遗嘱这种情况下，在配偶有孩子的时候，未亡人都不可能拿到100%。 When a person dies without a will, or “intestate,” specific rules under state law direct how their assets should be distributed. Rules for intestate succession in California give a surviving spouse primary rights to any part of an estate not legally disposed of by a will, including rights to the decedent’s half of the couple’s community property. However, a surviving spouse may not get everything left by the decedent, particularly if the decedent has surviving children. Many assets are not subject to California’s intestate succession and probate laws. MajiaLove 发表于 2024-10-14 12:29
我都说了，这是在没有遗嘱的情况下。另一个firm的关于加州继承法里关于没有遗嘱的情形，未亡人只能分到死去配偶那一半儿里的1/3。哪有你说的100%嘛 https://smartasset.com/estate-planning/california-inheritance-laws A spouse’s cut of the intestate estate will fall to just one-third if you’ve left surviving children or grandchildren in any of the following situations, according to California inheritance laws: There is more than one surviving child of the decedent There is one surviving child of the decedent, along with a surviving grandchild of at least one deceased child There are surviving grandchildren of at least two deceased children
我都说了，这是在没有遗嘱的情况下。另一个firm的关于加州继承法里关于没有遗嘱的情形，未亡人只能分到死去配偶那一半儿里的1/3。哪有你说的100%嘛 https://smartasset.com/estate-planning/california-inheritance-laws A spouse’s cut of the intestate estate will fall to just one-third if you’ve left surviving children or grandchildren in any of the following situations, according to California inheritance laws: There is more than one surviving child of the decedent There is one surviving child of the decedent, along with a surviving grandchild of at least one deceased child There are surviving grandchildren of at least two deceased children
MajiaLove 发表于 2024-10-14 12:43 我都说了，这是在没有遗嘱的情况下。另一个firm的关于加州继承法里关于没有遗嘱的情形，未亡人只能分到死去配偶那一半儿里的1/3。哪有你说的100%嘛 https://smartasset.com/estate-planning/california-inheritance-laws A spouse’s cut of the intestate estate will fall to just one-third if you’ve left surviving children or grandchildren in any of the following situations, according to California inheritance laws: There is more than one surviving child of the decedent There is one surviving child of the decedent, along with a surviving grandchild of at least one deceased child There are surviving grandchildren of at least two deceased children
再贴个link。很明确未亡人自动得到的就是自己在共同财产里那50%，配偶那50%看有没有遗嘱安排。有遗嘱的时候听遗嘱的，但遗嘱不能把未亡人的50%分掉即使那些资产可能是在死去配偶的名下。 https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/effect-of-spouses-death-on-community-property-in-california.html When a Husband Dies, What Is His Wife Entitled to in California? In a state that has a community property system, the term “community property” refers to all types of property acquired by either spouse while the spouses are married. Community property belongs equally to both spouses by law. Note that property a spouse acquired before their marriage or property a spouse acquires by gift or inheritance when married is that spouse’s separate property, and it belongs exclusively to that spouse. In California, a community property state, when a spouse dies with a will, the surviving spouse has certain rights. Specifically, the surviving spouse is entitled to 50 percent of the community property in the deceased spouse’s estate. The surviving spouse has this right to 50% of the community property even if the deceased spouse’s will does not mention the surviving spouse and does not bequeath the 50% to their surviving spouse. The surviving spouse has this right even if the will specifically excludes them from inheritance. This makes sense because half of the deceased spouse’s community property belongs to the surviving spouse.
MajiaLove 发表于 2024-10-14 12:43 我都说了，这是在没有遗嘱的情况下。另一个firm的关于加州继承法里关于没有遗嘱的情形，未亡人只能分到死去配偶那一半儿里的1/3。哪有你说的100%嘛 https://smartasset.com/estate-planning/california-inheritance-laws A spouse’s cut of the intestate estate will fall to just one-third if you’ve left surviving children or grandchildren in any of the following situations, according to California inheritance laws: There is more than one surviving child of the decedent There is one surviving child of the decedent, along with a surviving grandchild of at least one deceased child There are surviving grandchildren of at least two deceased children
楼主有没有和老公聊一下自己的愿望呢？如果实在心里没底，就先找一个family law的律师聊一下，了解一下你们州的具体法律。绝大部分州，一般情况下（比如股票都是婚后工作内挣来的），就算不分财产或者不离婚，你自己建立一个遗嘱把你从婚姻里得到的遗产（包括现在还在老公名下账户里的一半儿股票房子等）按自己的愿望分配，法律也是支持的。所以楼里说什么老公自私到既不愿意配合做trust也拖着不离婚的来试图不让楼主按自己的意愿分配自己遗产的，根本做不到。
法官应该不会判我犯法因为两人在婚姻当中assume我一人做的事是两人的共同决定。但是如果我老公（压根儿不同意）因此告我，我也不能确定他完全没有胜算，因为他可以出示证据表明他是不同意的这是我个人的欺诈行为。至于法官怎么判那得看具体情况。但是有一点可以确定的就是，这个过程绝对是违背婚姻原则的，如果我老公知道我要搞这样一出（对共同财产作出违背他意愿的事）是绝对不会跟我结婚的。我也是一样。这就好像夫妻中的一方在对方不知道的情况下把房子抵押了出去，另外一方貌似也没有什么办法追究对方责任，但是我认为这属于对婚姻的不忠和欺诈。
供书教学养大成人，让他有能力自立，怎么就叫做不保证他的利益？难道他是个逆子败家子跟我三观完全不符对我没有基本尊重我也要把财产留给他吗？笑话！母性大不过人性，不是说为了“保护孩子的利益”就可以justify任何事的。这是有了孩子就连基本是非观都没了
遗产这个事情，有遗嘱的话遗嘱优先，每个国家的法律都是这样的。 没有遗嘱，美国法律给配偶，中国法律给配偶，子女，父母均分。 没有啥“天经地义”非要给子女，或者是非要给配偶的说法。 如果说，“天经地义”，那就是尊重“遗嘱”对自己名下财产的分配。
具体到个人，遗产上，有的人把配偶看做最重要的人最爱的人，愿意都给配偶。有的人认为子女是最重要的最爱的人，愿意都给子女。当然还看遗产的数量也有一定的关系。就像你认为应该100% 给配偶，大衣被禁，觉得100% 给子女。 都有道理都没错。
如果夫妻一致，那很好，楼主的case, 大概两人不一致，要不然根本就不用来说了。 这种情况要我看来当然是彼此妥协下啊？要不楼主拖着病体离婚换保险嘛？ 同样的楼主老公也妥协下呗，反正也是给自己的孩子。 妥协的办法很简单啊，就是楼主的那一半财产给老公，俩孩子都分点呗？
这样老公拿到自己的一半，和楼主未来的遗产的一部分；比离婚拿得多。俩娃也拿到楼主未来遗产的一部分，是楼主的心意。 楼主也不用拖着病体办离婚换保险。
现场采访一下马甲大哥，在楼主这种情况下，作为孩子的爸爸， 你可以接受把一半的钱留给第一任婚姻的孩子吗？ 如果你的新女朋友强烈建议你把钱都拿在手里，你会更爱她吗？哈哈哈哈
你是说这是违反你的婚姻原则的。我们都明白了。你花钱要你老公同意，不同意你花钱就是不忠和欺诈。了解啦。 我就说了啊，你要问问你老公同不同意你把遗产给二老公。要不然你不就左右不是人。前老公不同意就是对前老公的欺诈，后老公不留钱又是对后老公的欺诈。
“大部分婚姻的assumption”是法律和逻辑吗？大家讲法律时你扯什么婚姻的意义，现在又来扯法律和逻辑，你这么胡搅蛮缠口不择言，是不是想不劳而获？
立场决定观点，屁股决定脑袋，都很正常，所以才需要法律保证每个人公平的被对待，不论强势还是弱势，婚姻家庭法也在其内
我问过几次她有娃没有，她都不回答。我觉得她的观点就不像一个有娃爱娃的妈妈的话。楼主又不是分她的钱，她急成这样。她要是把婚姻看的这么神圣，这到处50%的离婚率岂不是已经气死她了？
啥叫你老公再婚不能公平分配啊？ 您不是说你老公再婚就该所有的遗产都给后老婆吗？
一个人的是非观本来就不应该因为他/她自己的人生处境而改变啊。你难道是在赤裸裸的说人应该由自己的利益决定自己的是非观？omg你们真是震撼到我了
emm我什么时候这样说过？我为什么要这样说？我既然不认为lz应该对“自己那份”如此的执着要100%控制权，然后回头说应该给另一个人100%控制权，这是什么逻辑？
这个你纯粹是夸张了。
楼主并没有假设老公会虐待孩子，人家一个孩子已经成年，如何虐待？但是楼主希望把自己的遗产留给孩子也没有啥可以批判的。 就是爱孩子胜过爱老公呗。 这种就不可以结婚了嘛？那人家网友有的老公还愿意把自己的遗产留给孩子不留给老婆的，那是不是利用老婆当代孕妈妈，当照顾孩子的工具人了？ 也不是对吧。 就是更爱孩子呗。 楼上的大衣被禁，夫妻都是留给孩子不留给配偶，也没什么。
关键是夫妻观点不同，如何处理矛盾。
你不是说婚内财产应该遗产留给配偶吗？ 所以你留给你老公，你老公留给二老婆啊。
说的好像人人都白莲花似的，楼主考虑的是孩子的利益，是做母亲的天性。任何做母亲的就算不同意她的想法也会理解她的动机。而你完全没有，只会对一个病重的妈妈不停的指责，拿所谓你标准的道德大棒来pua人家。 你真的一点都不善良。
你这么激动，为啥不在九天渣的帖子里舌战群儒，维护男人的利益，跑到病重楼主帖子里面欺负弱者算什么？
你这样的也压根不该生孩子，因为孩子根本也不是你老公的孩子，他们是天敌，是资源竞争者。这样的想法生孩子有意义么？
第一，我说的是配偶应该有priority以及应该deserve被信任。我从来反对简单的一刀切，并且我认为丈夫应该对“属于妻子”的共同财产有一部分的继承权和支配权，譬如说大部分捐掉。 第二，我不反对合理的estate planning 第三，再婚的情况下因为进入婚姻时已经有大笔财产，跟后妻的prenup是很正常的assumption 第四，在丈夫去世时presumably 孩子已经长大成人并且丈夫和后妻在婚后财产上已达成共识，这时丈夫会有更好的判断力如何合理分配。 我反对的是这种“我的那就得100%留给我孩子否则就是我吃亏。哪怕孩子不成器拿着钱挥霍犯事也比被人继承了强这种态度。 but我必须说明，我认为的公平并不是什么“属于前妻那份”必须100%给前妻的孩子，事情有很多的circumstances，并且平心而论，真的没有什么完全属于谁的那一份之说。原来的财产本来就是夫妻双方共同的，这份财产的priority本来就是夫妻双方，这份财产以后还可能会增值可能会贬值，at certain point也将会跟“属于丈夫那份”混在一起。在这种情况下，公平将会是一个更加subjective的概念，老公deserve被trust能够作出尽可能公平的判断，还包括他perceive日后这份财产由谁继承更能最大化全家人的利益，包括以后他跟各个孩子的关系以及各个孩子turn out成什么样子。
CA is a community property state, which means that all assets and income accumulated during a marriage (or domestic partnership) is considered community property unless otherwise specified by both spouses/partners as separate property. In other words, both spouses are treated as if they own the property equally, even if the asset is the name of one spouse only.
When property is deemed community property, the surviving spouse is the sole heir for 100% of the deceased’s community property assets, regardless of any legal arrangements (contracts, wills, prior transfers) an individual made.
CA has essentially deemed all community property as jointly held assets, regardless of whether they are held in a single name. This means that they cannot transfer to anyone else without the express consent of the spouse.
好神奇啊。谁说你老公要跟二老婆签prenup了啊？你老公信任配偶啊。人家找到真爱小娇妻，第一天就1000万放到联名账户，一秒钟变成共同财产。共同财产给配偶啊。都是小娇妻的。
不讨论“应该”咋样单纯说可行性。加州婚内共同财产必须给配偶，除非配偶同意不要，同意分配给其他人。网友也不知道楼主在哪儿，还是得去问律师。
在这种情况下夸夸其谈婚姻意义的，都是别有用心的，我是不相信她是少不更事的
婚前财产和父母给的应该不算这里面吧？
还好纽约新泽西不这样。楼主在加州就赶快去离婚吧。还有终身赡养费。医药费都有着落了
个人财产可以随便分配哈。
不能分的是婚内共同财产，100%归配偶，小孩是零。
这就是我说的基本信任和being reasonable啊。如果你觉得老公不能完全信任那么我觉得可以理解，跟老公也可以开诚布公的说，设立reasonable的trust，譬如说共同财产的1/4之类。这样数额也不是很高也足够保证孩子都基本生活品质。老公以后如果需要flexibility（譬如突然生了大病失去保险什么之类的小概率事件）。 但是要“自己的那份”100%必须给自己孩子否则就是吃亏，这是100%不信任，这是不reasonable。而且是一种很让人厌恶的态度。基本属于我分我那一半然后咱俩生死无关那种。
我听过一个理财讲座，中国是父母孩子配偶分，台湾是配偶和孩子分。只有美国全部配偶拿。我觉得其实美国全部给配偶有些太绝对了，有些男的变心的话，像九天渣岳父母完全没有保障，孩子也很可怜，并不觉得这是一个好方法。哪怕不均分，多少分点给血亲也好。
别的不知道啊，如果401 是可以写父母和娃当受益人的。 还有就是单独account （ 没有配偶名字的） ,应该可以写娃和父母当受益人。 这种有没有金额限制不知道。
她对自己最在乎，对小孩最不在乎，除了和九天渣或九天渣第二任类似的可能性，还有个可能是她没啥赚钱能力本身又自私，怕老公看到了也会考虑建trust影响她以后自私的生活。任何对孩子有爱的母亲或父亲碰到楼主这情况一般都会考虑自己的身后事。当然家里除了自住房资产没多少的是该留给配偶。
所以很多老美没多少钱都弄trust啊
所以你就是完全印证贾宝玉的说法，女人结了婚就从水变成了泥？只有少不更事才能公平的对待世界？有了孩子是非观就必须被distort？
如果夫妻双方达成一致，可以override法律规则，想咋分婚内财产都行。
前提是双方一致。在一方病重情况下让另一方出钱出力照顾你同时乐意放弃自己继承权，太考验人性了吧。。。
啥叫不能信任啊？你老公要娶小娇妻咋叫做不能信任啊？你跟你老公有山盟海誓说绝不二婚快乐守寡吗？人二婚不是件非常reasonable的事情吗？
这不是你说要信任配偶吗？
你老公信任小娇妻有啥错的啊？小娇妻说了啊，她值得信任，等她花个1千万养完老，没有小鲜肉二老公的话，一定遗产公平分配。
所以我说了啊，你赶快回去问问老公，让他指天发誓，一定一辈子守节，快乐守寡。
无语。你们真的是受过高等教育的女性？怎么跟村口的大妈们一个套路
加州不可以！需要配偶签字同意
房子也是，配偶有survival right的，除非配偶签字放弃
她老公股票账户里的一千万，未必也全是能卖的；比方说一年后才能卖，你可以签协议，卖了分你一半，然而你就得随时关注他卖了没，卖了多少钱，很难真的拿到手。
正确的家庭是非观是对整个家庭都负责任。
美国全部给配偶也是基于信主，结婚誓言的生死不离的初衷，对配偶绝对信任。但是事实是50%的离婚率，这说明这个誓言根本经不起考验，对方靠不住，所以这个财产分配制度不合理。
你更像没受过教育的自私贪心的。
双方观点一致最好了，如果不一致，要健康的时候， 提前商量好。
譬如我们健康的时候说好，遗产都给娃， 不管谁先死。那就可以，在健康的时候， 楼主也需要同意老公死了，遗产不给她。 这种是双方的。
现在重病了，发现夫妻观点不一致， 比较麻烦。 肯定楼主要让步的。
我家目前也是基于信任我/老公的受益人都是彼此，不过一旦资产过了我觉得应该建trust的时候我会和老公建，我们股市里实实在在的钱几百万吧，startup那些大钱不算。
贾宝玉的说法也值得被引用？那是个小说里的人物刻画，曹雪芹都未必是这么看女人的。少不更事是说年纪小经历的世事少，往往一腔热血容易感情用事，就你在楼里的发言不是这一类的
楼主只是来问意见，提议离婚的是部分网友，这个我也不赞同，还是先和老公谈。楼主又没说要离婚，你不停的指责楼主干啥？莫名其妙
要不你再查查引用的出处？按照下面这个firm里给的简述，似乎加州法律和我说的是一致的。问了GPT关于加州的继承法，也和我说的一致
https://www.aldavlaw.com/blog/understanding-spousal-inheritance-rights-in-california/
楼主本身应该不是赚钱主力，不然名下也不会只有20万了。
婚姻里谁有话语权最终都是经济决定的，一般强势的一方都是要绝对控制全局把主动权握在手里的，不太可能随便接受弱势一方的提议，你看奶茶有啥话语权，越成功的人都是长期观察子女表现，随时修改遗嘱，很忌讳急吼吼谈家产分配，更不可能很早做不可撤trust，就算做了trust也可以根据之后的关系好坏随时修改内容。
女人最好是自己多赚钱，如果是需要靠配偶，应该尽可能沟通，而不是上法庭硬撞。也不要找什么trust baby，看得到用不到，一个空壳。
401 应该可以的，每次换工作都让重新填受益人，没有说必须配偶同意（当然我们都是填的配偶，孩子太小），但是是可以随便填的。
还有公司给的life insurance 也是随便填受益人，不需要配偶签字。我在加州。
行，你既然开始摔摔打打不能进行理性讨论那咱就不讨论了。
我来引用你说的网站好了。我前面总结的没错：不能通过遗嘱剥夺配偶继承权，除非以其他方式给“补齐”
Basics of California Inheritance Law A California resident cannot disinherit a spouse in a will unless they leave property and assets to the surviving spouse outside the will, with evidence of this in the will. For example, a spouse may leave the survivor with life insurance proceeds, property in a trust, and/or real property and then their remaining property to others in their will.
A surviving spouse also has a right to the decedent’s half of the couple’s community property and quasi-community property. Community property typically consists of assets acquired by either or both spouses throughout a marriage.
401当然不行。你最好去问过HR和律师，不然填了非配偶也无效。加州规则我百分之百确定。
Life insurance可以随便指定受益人。
你说的没错，没你们来印证，我也觉得贾宝玉的话不值得引用。现在觉得形容你们真的也合适😂。谢谢啦啊
我指责lz啥？lz既然把自己想法给众人看，难道不expect别人的评论吗？
这跟我有啥关系吗？ 难道不是你跟你老公的事吗？你说你老公可不可以把钱都给小娇妻啊？不可以不该你让他保证吗？这不是你说的吗？啥事要说清楚吗？要不然正常的assumption不就是丧偶可以再娶吗？
这个也不一定，我家我不是赚钱主力，但是我老公连账户密码都不知道，也从来不过问。看谁愿意管钱和信任吧。
我曾经和老公说过，你啥钱也不管，我要是把钱都转走了你也不知道啊，他说，转就转了吧，我也给他生了两个娃给他， 他还可以再赚。虽然都是玩笑话，但是就是基于trust 而已。
这个网友应该是男性吧。
如果是刚刚转移的话，少说还能活3-5年。听上去是乳腺癌。别的癌症，大部分发现的时候就转移了。如果是乳腺癌，还是有很大机会治愈的。活到两个孩子都成年没有问题。 不过看楼主的说法，这个老公可能也想离婚，毕竟照顾病人多年不容易。不如顺势离了，拿到自己那份。我们这里有个女的就是这么做的，也是夫妻感情不合，干脆离了。后来奇迹发生，她的癌症控制住了。孩子也大了。
其实楼主只是说出了内心最担心，最坏的情况。 给任何一个男的这么多钱。 都不敢打保票。 现实中70，80的有钱的男人不都这样吗？
是啊，这说的是不能不给，不能隐匿财产把未亡人给故意漏掉。楼主家的case是已经给了一半儿了，剩下那一半儿楼主自己支配。
你和他说的不一样。 纽约也是这么说的，就是你不可以一毛钱都不留给配偶aka disinherit your spouse,必须给起码1/4。比如楼主就可以写，我有一千万，500万给老公，500万给娃。就合法了啊。 人家说的很清楚了啊 “A surviving spouse also has a right to the decedent’s half of the couple’s community property and quasi-community property”。跟你说的100%都是配偶的完全不一样。
抱抱楼主。 安心治病。pray楼主一切顺利。 为孩子也要尽力好起来。
你理解错了。说的是可以自己一半不给配偶，前提是用其他个人财产来补齐。
那就更要问问老婆啦。毕竟他大概率走在老婆前边啊。都是老鲜肉的啦
人家9天渣的女儿不是去上藤校了，又不是上CC，哪里不好了？
九天渣老婆给孩子弄了trust，加上529。
就是说，这老公自己名下假如有1000万股票， 老婆名下20万，不能说老公弄个受益人，自己名下1000万股票都给别人，最后男的死了，楼主只有20万对吧？
但是楼主老公可以弄个遗嘱，给自己娃500万，这样老婆520万，娃500万，就合法了？
你引用这段说的再清楚不过啊：还活着一方entitled to去世一方的一半。加上他自己一半，就是全部。
你理解错了。你不是都说了吗？加州都是communal property 不存在自己的一半啊。will就是说整个communal property 怎么分啊。
我认为是你理解错了。下面是那个link里关于配偶被遗嘱里“omitted”时候的权利，以及“omitted”的定义。我帮你加粗了一下定义部分。所以就是说，遗嘱里是可以清楚地写明不给配偶的遗产的，下清楚了就不算被omitted了。
Rights of a Surviving Spouse ‘Omitted’ from Their Spouse’s Will If a person left out of their spouse’s will can show that they married the decedent after the execution of the decedent’s testamentary instruments, they may be entitled to a share of the decedent’s property. California law specifically addresses the estate share due to an omitted spouse, which states the omitted spouse is due: One-half of the community property that belonged to the decedent One-half of the quasi-community property that belonged to the decedent A share of the separate property that belonged to the decedent equal to what the spouse would have received if the decedent had died intestate but not more than one-half the value of the separate property in the estate. A spouse won’t be considered “omitted” if: The decedent’s will or trust makes it clear that they intentionally disinherited their spouse. The decedent sufficiently provided for the surviving spouse through other means (e.g., life insurance policies, bank accounts, gifts).
自己的一半是理论上，到了离婚、或者一方死亡时候来作出“分割”。一方死亡，另一方自动继承对方一半。
你再看看你引用的句子，后面还有附加条件。
理解力方面你们就不要跟我争了。
是的。我觉得楼主will做好，和老公商量用几百万建trust就行了，感情在就别离婚。
白莲花再遮掩，也出自泥潭，别多此一举了
你说的这个未亡人自动继承100%，自己的50%加配偶的50%，是肯定不对的。以下是加州在没有遗嘱的情况下对资产的划分条例，即使在没有遗嘱这种情况下，在配偶有孩子的时候，未亡人都不可能拿到100%。
When a person dies without a will, or “intestate,” specific rules under state law direct how their assets should be distributed. Rules for intestate succession in California give a surviving spouse primary rights to any part of an estate not legally disposed of by a will, including rights to the decedent’s half of the couple’s community property. However, a surviving spouse may not get everything left by the decedent, particularly if the decedent has surviving children. Many assets are not subject to California’s intestate succession and probate laws.
对，这个理解应该是对的，不可能自己的遗嘱非要给配偶全部。 但是不可以给超出家庭财产一半的钱，就是楼主老公不可以立遗嘱把他名下那1000万都给娃，必须留总财产一半给楼主。
我服了你们啊，引用的都是再次confirm我说的rule
不要信我，去咨询2个律师，看看是否说的一致。
我都说了，这是在没有遗嘱的情况下。另一个firm的关于加州继承法里关于没有遗嘱的情形，未亡人只能分到死去配偶那一半儿里的1/3。哪有你说的100%嘛
https://smartasset.com/estate-planning/california-inheritance-laws
A spouse’s cut of the intestate estate will fall to just one-third if you’ve left surviving children or grandchildren in any of the following situations, according to California inheritance laws: There is more than one surviving child of the decedent There is one surviving child of the decedent, along with a surviving grandchild of at least one deceased child There are surviving grandchildren of at least two deceased children
如果没有遗嘱的时候，州法default的切割都是这样的，在有合法遗嘱并尊重遗嘱意愿的前提下的划分怎么可能比这个还要更偏向未亡人么？
交完税后得下去不少吧
那整个事里就目前吃亏的只是女主的父母吧。也是女主自己选择不给父母留钱的。说明至少表面上，到死前都没有翻脸的。甚至两个孩子也是站爹的。老实说女主生前过得比这板上的很多大妈都舒心吧，如果不是死后那些事。问题她都死了，也不知道了。
那个女主给孩子留钱得了，我记得说她有trust, 给了孩子的份额。也有529 什么的，孩子的利益保护得好。 但是她确实没有选择给爸妈留钱，否则life insurance 加父母应该是允许的。 我觉得是她生病了只能关注最重要的人：孩子。
而且这个爹也是同意女主的份额给孩子。孩子在财产上也没有亏欠。
至于这个爹以后的那些事情。女主已经不知道了。
再贴个link。很明确未亡人自动得到的就是自己在共同财产里那50%，配偶那50%看有没有遗嘱安排。有遗嘱的时候听遗嘱的，但遗嘱不能把未亡人的50%分掉即使那些资产可能是在死去配偶的名下。
https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/effect-of-spouses-death-on-community-property-in-california.html
When a Husband Dies, What Is His Wife Entitled to in California? In a state that has a community property system, the term “community property” refers to all types of property acquired by either spouse while the spouses are married. Community property belongs equally to both spouses by law. Note that property a spouse acquired before their marriage or property a spouse acquires by gift or inheritance when married is that spouse’s separate property, and it belongs exclusively to that spouse. In California, a community property state, when a spouse dies with a will, the surviving spouse has certain rights. Specifically, the surviving spouse is entitled to 50 percent of the community property in the deceased spouse’s estate. The surviving spouse has this right to 50% of the community property even if the deceased spouse’s will does not mention the surviving spouse and does not bequeath the 50% to their surviving spouse. The surviving spouse has this right even if the will specifically excludes them from inheritance. This makes sense because half of the deceased spouse’s community property belongs to the surviving spouse.
1/3指的是死亡方个人财产，在无遗嘱情况下配偶可以拿到。
我好累哦。
这个肯定你是对的，虽然没问过律师，确实婚内财产，无遗嘱情况下肯定配偶继承。我觉得美国都是这样。是个人财产才会分配。
我赞成，什么都比不了自己好好活着，自己掌控自己的财产