All things you say are true. The overall chance of a successful pregnancy at some point is quite high regardless of age up through 39 or 40. The risks of serious problems are pretty constant from ages 20-35. After age 35, the risks start going up, even though the substantial majority of women will still end up with a healthy pregnancy. I will say that getting and staying pregnant can take a while for some people. Most women will conceive within 6 months and carry a healthy pregnancy. But at least 20% of women over 35 will have to wait longer because they will miscarry their first pregnancy, and have to wait a little or long for the body to flush out the miscarriage and be ready to conceive again. That wait is often 1.5-4 months. For example, say you're 36 when you start trying. Noone is particularly worried if you don't get pregnant in 6 months. So you may be 37 when you conceive. Then there's a 20% risk of miscarriage. If you miscarry, that's at least 1 1/2 months where you can't conceive a healthy pregnancy, but plausibly longer. Then you wait another 1-6 months until you successfully conceive again. You are 38 when you actually have the child. At which point if you want a second you have to do it all again pretty quickly, with increased risk of miscarriage. The point is, pregnancy is achievable for the vast majority of 35-40 year olds. It's just a long drawn out process for a substantial proportion, and the risk of serious issues with a given pregnancy are higher even though a substantial majority will be successful.
https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/wiq85c/is_pregnancy_between_the_ages_of_35_and_40_really/ 岁数大了再怀才是全方位变异危险大增。 楼上真是黑了心 The risk of chromosome abnormalities goes up every year older a women gets; there is not some magic jump from 34 to 35. This risk is due to the higher chance of nondisjunction, which can occur when splitting up the chromosomes in the egg, as a women ages. If nondisjunction occurs, the woman passes on either too many or too few chromosomes to the fetus (Down syndrome is an extra chromosome 21, while Turner syndrome is too few X chromosomes in a female). Just adding to this, nondisjunction can happen on lots of chromosomes, but many of them won’t thrive and spontaneously abort. You might just experience a heavy period, and you try again. We hear about chromosomes 21, 18, and sometimes 13, because those chromosome errors can still be compatible with life and be brought to term. Thanks for adding! Yeah, trisomy 16 and 22 are some of the most common in miscarriages. The risks of down syndrome go from 1 in 1,200 at age 25 to 1 in 30 at age 45. It''s about 1 and 100 at age 40. So it is a very real risk, especially as you get older, but it''s not like it''s a high probability. That being said, it''s not the only condition. There are other chromosomal anomalies that are much, much worse. They can do genetic testing pretty early on to see if your child will have a chromosomal anomaly. You can then decide if you want to abort and try again. Because it''s a problem at fertilization, you can always opt to use donor eggs instead.
今天一直打电话联系可以做手术的医生/医院, 无奈保险公司竟然不报 (我在一家non-profit机构上班, 保险属于Catholic health insurance plans, 可能跟宗教有关, 他们只能报那种自然流产的手术, 这种基因有问题不在cover的范围).
现在如果自费最便宜的是6k(不同的医院报价不同，也有2万的), 手术最早是下个礼拜五 (差不多还要等10天); 现在已经25周了，不想再等了.
还在和保险公司交涉, 让他们给exception, 感觉没什么希望.
现在也没有什么别的选择, 6k这家要吃药两天, 第三天去做手术, 看网上说这种流产方式流血很多, 还有可能流不干净需要再做. 大家都推荐d&c.
继续打电话找便宜的可以做d&c的医院, 不行就订机票回国做, 唉😔
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岁数大了再怀才是全方位变异危险大增。
楼上真是黑了心
The risk of chromosome abnormalities goes up every year older a women gets; there is not some magic jump from 34 to 35. This risk is due to the higher chance of nondisjunction, which can occur when splitting up the chromosomes in the egg, as a women ages. If nondisjunction occurs, the woman passes on either too many or too few chromosomes to the fetus (Down syndrome is an extra chromosome 21, while Turner syndrome is too few X chromosomes in a female).
Just adding to this, nondisjunction can happen on lots of chromosomes, but many of them won’t thrive and spontaneously abort. You might just experience a heavy period, and you try again. We hear about chromosomes 21, 18, and sometimes 13, because those chromosome errors can still be compatible with life and be brought to term. Thanks for adding! Yeah, trisomy 16 and 22 are some of the most common in miscarriages.
The risks of down syndrome go from 1 in 1,200 at age 25 to 1 in 30 at age 45. It''s about 1 and 100 at age 40. So it is a very real risk, especially as you get older, but it''s not like it''s a high probability. That being said, it''s not the only condition. There are other chromosomal anomalies that are much, much worse. They can do genetic testing pretty early on to see if your child will have a chromosomal anomaly. You can then decide if you want to abort and try again. Because it''s a problem at fertilization, you can always opt to use donor eggs instead.
这些病可不是exclusive的，雪上加霜也不是没可能，人家考虑好了就不要动嘴皮子毫无负担的劝几句，反正你又不用付出什么
为啥孩子基因其实是正确的， 怎么测出来这个马赛克。。 方法是啥， 每一步骤是啥，，，， 为啥懂行的不讲讲？！
我记得这个测试是不可以确定孩子基因真的有变异的。
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burwell_v._Hobby_Lobby_Stores,_Inc.
回国找个有亲人的城市的三甲医院做 机票现在应该便宜了
回国还有家人照顾，好好养养，补血补气，这里吃啥啊。节省的手术费加吃饭回国一趟够了，hi啊能顺、 还可以顺便全身体检一次，6000人民币，看看有没啥隐患。
这种一般是小诊所，条件很差的，而且水平名声好的妇产科医生不愿意干
加拿大很少很少有医生愿意做25周以上
可能的话，请2个月的假，回去休整一下
我当时也是因为上环要自费$800， 那我不如买机票回国$500上个环。然后就怀孕了。
其实真的如果能把川普教的人打包送火星该多好，我双手双脚支持他们投票给川皇。要是他赢了可以和musk一起去火星不要来祸害我们，我都可以给他投一票，外加捐火星飞船票的钱。
应该是有很多分别的，比如有些胚胎自己失去心跳/胎死腹中，哪个月份都是能“引产”的，不论在哪个城市。
而且国内有的地区有的医院可能还需要引产证明，楼主还需要家人帮忙把流程问清楚再回国吧，免得出意外。
估计楼上那个对25周没啥概念。 这么看着楼主家里也不是可以完全不在乎钱的，现在这个情况引不引产楼主都很难。要立刻飞回国的话，楼主家还有一个10岁的孩子呢，这眼下快开学了。楼主你看看我们能怎么帮你一把吧。。哎。。
因为这个原因，一般会先打药吧，induce fetal cardiac arrest。
我家吃过亏
是的，会给KCL ，但一般医院会和产妇需要讨论各种可能性的。
这种情况托家人朋友找关系吧，公立医院不认识人就去类似和睦家这种私立医院，肯定是能做上的。
即使是允许引产的洲，很多洲法律规定是即使做了引产决定，都是必须有3-7天的缓冲期。楼主这个感觉像是按照这个规定来的。已经感觉是最快能做到的时间了。回国的话，是得了解一下国内的情况，感觉国内现在也和以前不太一样了。
楼主一直没回答这个问题。其实我也特别想知道为什么等到这么晚才出结果。感觉唯一说的通的就是22周的大排查有问题。
try California?
对呀，这胎儿引出来是活的，这麽大了一定要打掉吗？也许可以赌一把，说不定接近正常看不出来呢。
唉，做女人真不容易。希望楼主坚强。
加州应该不行。 孩子已经viable了
照我说的生下来 一辈子坦荡荡
人家好不容易做了艰难的决定，肯定都考虑过了，不要再说这些了
孩子有问题她又不用帮着养，可不就想圣母就圣母了，要不哪儿来的优越感呢
还是在身边尽快找合适的诊所，哪怕去别的州也行，祝福楼主。
真是小人之心，这和优越感有什麽关系，再不济也是一条小生命。美国这边生出来不愿意养有得是地方接收，即使是特殊儿童待遇也不差。
你看到的待遇不差，其实都是家人日日夜夜填进去的心血。对任何人这都不是容易的决定，人家已经做了决定，旁人就不要来轻飘飘一句话了
不想影响楼主的决定。但是，这个确实是，在美国，有领养需求的夫妇有很多。
不同意。生命不仅仅在于活着，染色体如果有严重问题，可能根本没有生活质量可言，就算是吃喝拉撒待遇好，又有什么意义呢。。。
待遇不差你生十个八个给别人领养啊。
严不严重要看标准 xxy好多都是成年以后才诊断的 有challenge但不是生活不能自理， 不能享受生活乐趣。
这个孩子是mosaic 三分之二是正常的
根本就没事。医生说的都是bullshit 至少对mosaic 那些说法根本就不靠谱 或彻底不靠谱。
待遇不差？什么叫不差？你觉得不差就不差？病人自己有意愿 你以为谁愿意过这种不正常的日子
你们小心你们如果身在红州的话可能已经刑事犯罪了，有好几个红州协助教唆他人堕胎的，违反刑法
Vance说过，它们夺权后，会吧这个做为联邦法律发布一个总统令
想想明年这个时候，再有类似的事情，全美堕胎都非法了，然后你打算回国堕胎，结果安检时候TSA里面MAGA分子看到大肚子的你登机牌去中国，马上通知CBP调查你，调查你月经记录和医疗记录，发现你和医生说过想堕胎，然后在登机口把你抓捕归案
觉得不可能发生？再去仔细读读project 2025 或者懒得读书，去看看handsmaid tale相关场景也行
这这情况你要感谢MAGA控制的最高法院那个关于神棍公司hobby lobby不给女性员工上保险的判例
回国二线城市私立随便找家妇科医院，不排队服务还好，价格绝对比美国便宜。
你这里轻飘飘的赌一把，这可是赔上一辈子的事
赚钱就是为了在这种时候用的。平时可以少吃一顿米其林，这种大事上绝对不能省。
而且楼主是中国人，中国有亲人，尚且如此艰难。之前看过新闻，不要说出国，很多女性连跨州求助的选择都没有，只能生下来。
怎么可能，把自己的孩子给别人养，一辈子的心里创伤，我肯定做不到