International Olympic Committee Joint Paris 2024 Boxing Unit/IOC Statement 3 min read Published on 01 August 2024 IOC Statements IOC News Paris 2024 olympic-flag-featured Every person has the right to practise sport without discrimination. All athletes participating in the boxing tournament of the Olympic Games Paris 2024 comply with the competition’s eligibility and entry regulations, as well as all applicable medical regulations set by the Paris 2024 Boxing Unit (PBU) (please find all applicable rules here). As with previous Olympic boxing competitions, the gender and age of the athletes are based on their passport. These rules also applied during the qualification period, including the boxing tournaments of the 2023 European Games, Asian Games, Pan American Games and Pacific Games, the ad hoc 2023 African qualifying tournament in Dakar (SEN) and two world qualifying tournaments held in Busto Arsizio (ITA) and Bangkok (THA) in 2024, which involved a total of 1,471 different boxers from 172 National Olympic Committees (NOCs), the Boxing Refugee Team and Individual Neutral Athletes, and featured over 2,000 qualification bouts. The PBU used the Tokyo 2020 boxing rules as a baseline to develop its regulations for Paris 2024. This was to minimise the impact on athletes’ preparations and guarantee consistency between Olympic Games. These Tokyo 2020 rules were based on the post-Rio 2016 rules, which were in place before the suspension of the boxing International Federation by the IOC in 2019 and the subsequent withdrawal of its recognition in 2023. We have seen in reports misleading information about two female athletes competing at the Olympic Games Paris 2024. The two athletes have been competing in international boxing competitions for many years in the women’s category, including the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020, International Boxing Association (IBA) World Championships and IBA-sanctioned tournaments. These two athletes were the victims of a sudden and arbitrary decision by the IBA. Towards the end of the IBA World Championships in 2023, they were suddenly disqualified without any due process. According to the IBA minutes available on their website, this decision was initially taken solely by the IBA Secretary General and CEO. The IBA Board only ratified it afterwards and only subsequently requested that a procedure to follow in similar cases in the future be established and reflected in the IBA Regulations. The minutes also say that the IBA should “establish a clear procedure on gender testing”. The current aggression against these two athletes is based entirely on this arbitrary decision, which was taken without any proper procedure – especially considering that these athletes had been competing in top-level competition for many years. Such an approach is contrary to good governance. Eligibility rules should not be changed during ongoing competition, and any rule change must follow appropriate processes and should be based on scientific evidence. The IOC is committed to protecting the human rights of all athletes participating in the Olympic Games as per the Olympic Charter, the IOC Code of Ethics and the IOC Strategic Framework on Human Rights. The IOC is saddened by the abuse that the two athletes are currently receiving. The IBA’s recognition was withdrawn by the IOC in 2023 following its suspension in 2019. The withdrawal of recognition was confirmed by the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS). See the IOC’s statement following the ruling. The IOC has made it clear that it needs National Boxing Federations to reach a consensus around a new International Federation in order for boxing to be included on the sports programme of the Olympic Games LA28.
Swyer syndrome: A rare genetic condition in which people who have an X chromosome and a Y chromosome (the usual pattern for males) look female. They have normal female reproductive organs, including a uterus, fallopian tubes, and vagina.
NEW—Unbelievable! Another day at the Paris Olympics and another MAN just pummeled and abused a WOMAN in a boxing match.
Taiwans Lin Yu-Ting, a man who failed a gender test and was barred from competing in the 2023 World Championships, left Uzbekistan’s Sitora Turdibekova on the… pic.twitter.com/7CH8semKmO — Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) August 2, 2024
NEW—Unbelievable! Another day at the Paris Olympics and another MAN just pummeled and abused a WOMAN in a boxing match.
Taiwans Lin Yu-Ting, a man who failed a gender test and was barred from competing in the 2023 World Championships, left Uzbekistan’s Sitora Turdibekova on the… pic.twitter.com/7CH8semKmO — Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) August 2, 2024
NEW—Unbelievable! Another day at the Paris Olympics and another MAN just pummeled and abused a WOMAN in a boxing match.
Taiwans Lin Yu-Ting, a man who failed a gender test and was barred from competing in the 2023 World Championships, left Uzbekistan’s Sitora Turdibekova on the… pic.twitter.com/7CH8semKmO — Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) August 2, 2024
female的定义是The sex which conceives and gives birth to young. Also a member of suchsex. The term is generic, but may have the specific meaning of “woman.” if so indicatedby the context. ta有xy染色体,不知道有生育能力吗? 就算有,如果xy染色体的存在会增加睾丸酮的分泌,增加ta的力量,那和普通女的比也不太公平吧。是不是需要再细化一下条规?
NEW—Unbelievable! Another day at the Paris Olympics and another MAN just pummeled and abused a WOMAN in a boxing match.
Taiwans Lin Yu-Ting, a man who failed a gender test and was barred from competing in the 2023 World Championships, left Uzbekistan’s Sitora Turdibekova on the… pic.twitter.com/7CH8semKmO — Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) August 2, 2024
aipple 发表于 2024-08-02 16:34 female的定义是The sex which conceives and gives birth to young. Also a member of suchsex. The term is generic, but may have the specific meaning of “woman.” if so indicatedby the context. ta有xy染色体,不知道有生育能力吗? 就算有,如果xy染色体的存在会增加睾丸酮的分泌,增加ta的力量,那和普通女的比也不太公平吧。是不是需要再细化一下条规?
brookhaven 发表于 2024-08-02 16:21 Swyer syndrome: A rare genetic condition in which people who have an X chromosome and a Y chromosome (the usual pattern for males) look female. They have normal female reproductive organs, including a uterus, fallopian tubes, and vagina.
aipple 发表于 2024-08-02 16:34 female的定义是The sex which conceives and gives birth to young. Also a member of suchsex. The term is generic, but may have the specific meaning of “woman.” if so indicatedby the context. ta有xy染色体,不知道有生育能力吗? 就算有,如果xy染色体的存在会增加睾丸酮的分泌,增加ta的力量,那和普通女的比也不太公平吧。是不是需要再细化一下条规?
brookhaven 发表于 2024-08-02 16:21 Swyer syndrome: A rare genetic condition in which people who have an X chromosome and a Y chromosome (the usual pattern for males) look female. They have normal female reproductive organs, including a uterus, fallopian tubes, and vagina.
aipple 发表于 2024-08-02 16:34 female的定义是The sex which conceives and gives birth to young. Also a member of suchsex. The term is generic, but may have the specific meaning of “woman.” if so indicatedby the context. ta有xy染色体,不知道有生育能力吗? 就算有,如果xy染色体的存在会增加睾丸酮的分泌,增加ta的力量,那和普通女的比也不太公平吧。是不是需要再细化一下条规?
NEW—Unbelievable! Another day at the Paris Olympics and another MAN just pummeled and abused a WOMAN in a boxing match.
Taiwans Lin Yu-Ting, a man who failed a gender test and was barred from competing in the 2023 World Championships, left Uzbekistan’s Sitora Turdibekova on the… pic.twitter.com/7CH8semKmO — Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) August 2, 2024
赛后卡里尼面对镜头落泪,称自己被一个“生理男性”打败。
之后多位名人支持当时落败的意大利选手卡里尼(蓝色衣服)。马斯克和JK罗琳连发多条抗议男女性同台竞技不公平。推特英国趋势前10占了3个,“我支持卡里尼”,“拯救女性运动”,“The IBA” (国际拳击协会)
然而,今天多家媒体报道,哈利夫确确实实是女性,有多张照片为证。阿尔及利亚官方更是大骂西方媒体是阴谋论白痴,评论也都在表示这是种族歧视。
目前,卡里尼已经向哈利夫正式道歉。
🔥 最新回帖
奥委会说就按照护照上的性别确定男女,这下好日无边了。
美国现在可以自己定义护照性别,也允许transgender参加女子比赛,下届奥运会上美国必将碾压全世界,女子比赛也不用看了
那些说什么隔壁帖子恶意满满,跟民主党无关的来说说?
All athletes participating in the boxing tournament of the Olympic Games Paris 2024 comply with the competition’s eligibility and entry regulations, as well as all applicable medical regulations set by the Paris 2024 Boxing Unit (PBU) (please find all applicable rules here). As with previous Olympic boxing competitions, the gender and age of the athletes are based on their passport.
These rules also applied during the qualification period, including the boxing tournaments of the 2023 European Games, Asian Games, Pan American Games and Pacific Games, the ad hoc 2023 African qualifying tournament in Dakar (SEN) and two world qualifying tournaments held in Busto Arsizio (ITA) and Bangkok (THA) in 2024, which involved a total of 1,471 different boxers from 172 National Olympic Committees (NOCs), the Boxing Refugee Team and Individual Neutral Athletes, and featured over 2,000 qualification bouts.
The PBU used the Tokyo 2020 boxing rules as a baseline to develop its regulations for Paris 2024. This was to minimise the impact on athletes’ preparations and guarantee consistency between Olympic Games. These Tokyo 2020 rules were based on the post-Rio 2016 rules, which were in place before the suspension of the boxing International Federation by the IOC in 2019 and the subsequent withdrawal of its recognition in 2023.
We have seen in reports misleading information about two female athletes competing at the Olympic Games Paris 2024. The two athletes have been competing in international boxing competitions for many years in the women’s category, including the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020, International Boxing Association (IBA) World Championships and IBA-sanctioned tournaments.
These two athletes were the victims of a sudden and arbitrary decision by the IBA. Towards the end of the IBA World Championships in 2023, they were suddenly disqualified without any due process.
According to the IBA minutes available on their website, this decision was initially taken solely by the IBA Secretary General and CEO. The IBA Board only ratified it afterwards and only subsequently requested that a procedure to follow in similar cases in the future be established and reflected in the IBA Regulations. The minutes also say that the IBA should “establish a clear procedure on gender testing”.
The current aggression against these two athletes is based entirely on this arbitrary decision, which was taken without any proper procedure – especially considering that these athletes had been competing in top-level competition for many years.
Such an approach is contrary to good governance.
Eligibility rules should not be changed during ongoing competition, and any rule change must follow appropriate processes and should be based on scientific evidence.
The IOC is committed to protecting the human rights of all athletes participating in the Olympic Games as per the Olympic Charter, the IOC Code of Ethics and the IOC Strategic Framework on Human Rights. The IOC is saddened by the abuse that the two athletes are currently receiving.
The IBA’s recognition was withdrawn by the IOC in 2023 following its suspension in 2019. The withdrawal of recognition was confirmed by the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS). See the IOC’s statement following the ruling.
The IOC has made it clear that it needs National Boxing Federations to reach a consensus around a new International Federation in order for boxing to be included on the sports programme of the Olympic Games LA28.
看过NBC的报道,说是没有实锤。
所以这里说人家是XY染色体的也是没有证实的事情。
请不要使用阴阳人这种有歧视性侮辱性的词语。请记住己所不欲,勿施于人啊。
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人家运动员就是女的 , 出生起就是, 身上器官也是女性全套, 没有做过变性手术
看证据还是比较同情阿尔及利亚选手,而且她之前输的时候也没人出来说…
就是个entitled white bitch
ps, 她已经道歉
Swyer syndrome: A rare genetic condition in which people who have an X chromosome and a Y chromosome (the usual pattern for males) look female. They have normal female reproductive organs, including a uterus, fallopian tubes, and vagina.
小时候看着倒是女孩 但是现在发育得五大三粗的,我觉得Y染色体越来越占上风了
就反转了? 昨天隔壁楼 好多大妈在 叫着抵制奥运呢。
楼主都没有搞清状况,就乱说。 关键在于 世界拳击协会是用染色体XY来确定是否男性,而奥运会规则是用激素水平来决定男女性别。 以往各届奥运会都是由世界拳击协会来确定选手资格。 由于拳联和俄罗斯走得太近,这届奥运会不让拳联来审核资格,由此导致了这场风波。 至于哪个规则更加合理,只能见仁见智了。
那就参赛的时候说清楚啊,比完了,赢了,再去网爆人家?
大千世界无奇不有啊,还有人神荼的一部份是XX染色体,另一部份是XY染色体呢。这个阿尔及利亚选手据称是XY染色体,根本不是女人
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最多算是性别有争议。
karen这一招制亚裔还是好用的。比如竞争不过就说对方overproduction。
但是规则不合理确实对女性运动员不公平。比赛前女性运动员没有抗争嬴面。
参赛的标准是什么?既然人家能参赛,就别等拿奖以后再羞辱网爆别人,不知道是谁在洗,看看群众的声音吧
右派不是坚持要出生性别吗,这位出生性别就是女的啊?你出生不是看带不带把区别男女吗?谁没事干测XY?这XY应该都是近几年才测出来的,人家都做女的一辈子了。
世界联合会还攻击国际奥委会:“这一承认引发了对公平竞争原则和运动员保护的严重质疑” 。国际奥委会以睾丸激素(男性力量激素)的水平为基础,根据它,这是定义女运动员是否具有优势的唯一标准,即使在包容性奥运会中也是如此。基本上,世界体育界并不关心你是男人还是女人,也不在乎你是否选择了像美国游泳运动员莉亚·托马斯 (Lia Thomas) 或三年前奥运会上第一位跨性别运动员劳雷尔·哈伯德 (Laurel Hubbard) 那样的转型。只有作为一名女性,你对对手来说拥有太多男性力量时,这才重要。例如,同性恋权利的终身捍卫者玛蒂娜·纳芙拉蒂洛娃(Martina Navratilova)等永恒的捍卫者对这一选择提出了质疑。根据国际奥委会的数据,哈利夫的睾丸激素水平属于女性。
看来不管她的染色体是XY还是XX,睾丸激素的水平才反应更真实的情况。
据说用得好。
ta有xy染色体,不知道有生育能力吗?
就算有,如果xy染色体的存在会增加睾丸酮的分泌,增加ta的力量,那和普通女的比也不太公平吧。是不是需要再细化一下条规?
这个湾湾男林雨婷是怎么混进去的?
这个不管是男是女,也不能说是“它”吧。
要你这么说,不能生育的女性多了去了,卵巢有问题的,输卵管有问题的,子宫有问题的,是不是都要定性成男性?
谢指路,查了一下,这性别还真不好定义 虽然出生时有女性器官,但是到青春期就不继续发育了,没卵巢没月经没胸,既不分泌女性激素也没有男性激素(因为没睾丸)
治疗方法就是人工补激素(女性激素?) 但是我有点怀疑这姑娘是不是停药了,不然泰国人妖都长得比女人还女人,她为啥长得完全就是个男人模样?
这是医学问题,需要医生来回答。从奥运会的角度来说,人家出生是女性,一直是女性,以女性身份参赛,完全没问题
睾丸激素水平这个界定将来会被淘汰,因为 一,该值是连续的,二,测量误差,三,没考虑历史激素水平。远不如按照是否含y染色体来的简单清晰。
twitter上也一直有人说她染色体是XY,但是没有人给出确切证据。但是她的睾丸酮严重超出正常女性的标准值上线,好像因为这个去年被国际拳击组织禁赛过。这次巴黎奥运会说测过她的睾丸酮指标,达标了才让她参赛的。确实不是变性人。
因为用”她 “”他“都不合适 ,就选了意思类似的”它“。
有问题不代表没有。你说说XY染色体的男人有卵巢子宫的吗?
这个是个technical discussion,奥委会和各个sports协会应该回去好好考虑怎么制定规则。这种极小概率事件几乎没发生过,没有严谨的rules也不奇怪。而且真挺不好弄的,到底看DNA,激素 level,还是reproductive organs呢??🤪
但是隔壁看到一个headline就高潮,各种谩骂攻击,什么选Harris以后都好日无边,真的是。。可见川粉都是啥文化水平。
他不能自然生育,因为不产卵子 但是有子宫,可以人工受孕 但我觉得用生育能力来定义也不行啊,会得罪很多生不出来的人。尤其现代社会,生育困难的人越来越多了
嗯 昨天一群 黄川大妈们 在说要用这个例子 激励自己的女儿们 反对极左 为争取 女性运动员的 权益 而斗争。
另外那个帖子不是说了,他是xy染色体,但是有缺陷,出生时没有小鸡鸡,所以被认为是女性,但是后来他fail了一个拳击协会的test。。。不能因为出生的时候就被认为是女性就参加女性比赛啊,要看生理上是哪种性别。。。
原来之前严重超标,难怪长得像男人 会不会平时雄激素都超标,为了参加奥运通过测试,临时打雌激素?这跟用药一样也是cheating吧?
这方面ioc 早有规定,重点看睾酮指标。 至少这次她符合条件,测试通过了
你说得对, 以后奥运会应该增加一个种类others 一共三种: men, women, others
即便她的染色体是xy,难道一个生理女性因为染色体xy就需要用男厕所参加男性运动?那么同理,是不是一个生理男性因为染色体是xx就应该用女厕所参加女性运动?这样看来大家都很支持transgender男用女厕所嘛(transgender很多都是虽然生理是一个性别但基因激素方面指向另一个性别,和这位女性不完全一样却也异曲同工)。以前总有谣传左派诱惑孩子变性,而昨天确实一群右派逼着一个女性去变性,如果她真的变性了开始上男厕所参加男性运动约会女性,恐怕同一批人又要反对她变性不允许她进男厕所。这件事恰恰体现了很多人的自相矛盾。长得像女孩子的男性,不变性吧,被说是女的不准上男厕所,受不了歧视去变性吧又被骂是变性人有jb还想去女厕所。和着这种天生男生女相、女生男相的人都活该没厕所上啊。 ps 我认为变性人如何参加运动和上厕所问题,需要有个谨慎的处理,但昨天maga逼着一个天生女性去变性的大型表演,恰恰证明了他们的双标以及为什么会出现变性人话题。如果这些天生男生女相、女生男相的人在成长过程中没有受到类似歧视导致自己连个厕所都没法上进而性别认知混乱,他们还会去追求变性吗?
还有一堆男的长得像女人。还有男人是xx染色体,是不是应该因此去上女厕所?
这等于是支持变性男参加女性运动了。有男人是xx染色体的
问题不就在于如何定义生理性别吗?这人有所有female reproductive organs,为啥不是生理女性?Again,是按reproductive organs定义 (传统上是这么定义的),还是DNA (那DNA还有XXy呢咋整),还是睾丸酮level (现在赛事的标准)??
你是不是以为雌激素可以降低雄激素水平?
I guess it is very possible.
如果这个人有呢,你还能怎么把她变成男的?
You guess? Go ask a doctor before guessing like that
所以长着xx染色体的男人(这种人真实存在)应该用女厕所参加女性运动?随着环境污染越来越严重,缺少y染色体的男人恐怕会越来越多,他们都应该去女厕所参加女性运动?没想到版上这么多人是支持男性去女厕所的啊.
哈哈哈哈,maga在这个问题上已经无法coherent 了🤣
之前有个南非长跑运动员不就是吗,拿了一堆冠军,后来被禁赛了。就是女性生殖器,但XY染色体。
厕所好解决,现在都是单独隔间,很多厕所都不标男女了 但是男女天生体力上的差别人尽皆知,奥运药检这么严格,不就是为了公平吗?如果他因为罕见的突变,造成了碾压式的优势,当然是要好好讨论一下的,跟变性人参赛一样的争议 你不参赛,谁管你认为自己是男是女?但你要参赛,那性别就不能全凭自己定义了
上帝一定不是一个好上帝,让它造人就男女两个性别,这么简单的事儿都做不了,真耽误功夫,把上帝fire了吧
而且搞不好大家都去测测染色体,会发现很多人的染色体和生理不一致。已经发现xy染色体的女性是可以正常生育的。所以我们谁都不能保证自己的生理性别和染色体一致,除非去测过。
咦,不是川粉说这个人应该按她是XY所以分去男性组,不管她其实是生来就有全套女性生殖器官其实就是女性吗?那生来XX的就可以去女性组呗,不管他/她是什么reprodutive organs。
看激素水平是合理的,否则拥有xx染色体的男性都来参加女性运动好了。
不要偷换概念,上厕所只和生殖器有关,解决的是自己的问题,就应该按照生殖器分。比赛关系到别人,力量爆发,和生殖器无关好吗,只和基因有关,要按照基因分
Red: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/paris-2024-summer-olympics/olympics-boxing-imane-khalif-xy-chromosome-italian-boxer-quit/5662035/
口服一定剂量的雌激素(不用很大剂量)可以让人昏沉无力。拳击选手应该不会想用 。
长跑就还好, 顶多就是少个牌子 boxing男女体力差别太大了, 搞不好会出人命(参考陈立人把老婆活活打死) 为了保护女运动员的生命, 需要出台更稳妥的措施
以前的案例不能,毕竟如果不是出现生育障碍谁没事去测染色体。但是十几年前有案例发现xy染色体女性成功生育。除非未来对男女性进行大规模染色体筛查,否则谁知道能生育的xy女性是个例还是常例
你确定XY女可以正常生育? 我看维基上说他们没有正常卵巢,青春期不来月经不发育,所以一般最晚青春期会确诊 有成功生育的例子,是因为他们有子宫,借卵子可以用人工受孕方式自然生产
我也感觉,必须要修正性别标准,boxing这种真的可能出人命的。应该是激素水平和染色体都要考虑。 所以这个case引起这么大争议是好事,促进奥委会improve。当然这么大争议也是群众广泛的common sense所致
不应该允许她们参加拳击类项目。。
性别真是个复杂的议题。而且我认为纯按性别分组也挺不科学的。
我看以后要不就这样,跑步游泳这种互不影响的比赛,所有人一起比,把身高、体重、臂展、肌肉量、基因、激素这些vital stats都列出来。让大众来决定谁最有商业价值?
至于拳击这种对抗型运动,不是已经有重量级了吗?就是以后需要把其他生理属性给算进去。
但是激素水平是可以人工调节的 如果青春发育期打雄激素,长出了很多大肌肉,然后再停掉,是不是可以通过奥运检测了? 这个病既没有卵巢也没有睾丸,是天生雌雄激素都缺乏?
还是那句话,如果要求xy的女性参加男性运动,就必然需要允许xx的男性参加女性运动和进男厕所。我劝大家在这个问题想清楚了后果再站队。
引发讨论是有必要的, 应该支持讨论以及后续规则改正
但是川粉大军上来就搞政治节奏, 带私货暗戳戳直接指向美国大选, 真low
XY女 vs XX男 是不是最势均力敌?😂
大概就按女的对待吧, 毕竟生理器官是容易判决的, 至于染色体, 就太过了。 也可能以后可以确定是哪个基因管的, 这个应该不重要, 没法做到 100% 精确。按生理器官, 就几乎是 99.999% 了, 足够了。
生理器官后天手术变性的算不算, 这个估计也有争议, 我觉得大概可以算吧, 毕竟人家手术了。
国际拳联去年的测试方法未公布,但他们声称不是睾丸酮水平测试。另外他们的主席公开说过这两人DNA 是 XY。
以前认为不能,但是十几年前发现了能的案例。所以能不能的结论不知是不是幸存者偏差。正常生育的女性不会去查自己的染色体,也就不会发现自己可能是能生育的xy。这个问题可能需要对男女做大规模染色体筛查后才会有定论。 anyway,这个问题上关键是不能双标,因为这世界上存在xx男性。对xy女性的决定会引起xx男性到底怎么算的连锁反应。
可是xx男性绝不会参加男性拳击赛。到头来都是女性倒霉。
没有要求XY的参加男性运动比赛。XY的不能参加女性运动比赛,这是有legitimate原因的。而且参加运动比赛和进什么厕所完全是两码事,你扯在一起是要干什么 现在的厕所不都是all gender的了吗
可是如果DNA是XY,不管是先天还是后天变性的,肌肉骨骼的生长就不能和女性一样吧,一个拳头就能有女人的1.5倍大,肌肉也大,肌肉密度和血氧输送量也不一样吧,这对基因XX的显然不公平
那就等待xx男性大规模参加女性运动吧,见识什么叫真的被男性打惨。
但是XX男性可以”合法“进女厕? 川粉们的性别问题节奏在于顾头不顾腚
你先说服川粉不要每谈性别必谈厕所
Androgen insensitivity syndrome 了解一下
感觉还是xx男胜出,毕竟是拥有男性征。以前觉得是xy染色体决定激素决定性征,现在的研究看,很可能是某些基因,而这些基因未必需要在x或y染色体上。 靠基因决定也许没错,但是这个基因很可能并不是x或y染色体。也许随着人类进化科学进步我们的生物学知识要被颠覆。
发育情况分人的。有的XY完全没有睾丸,自然不可能有睾丸分泌的激素,女性生殖性完整得都可以生育,肌肉骨骼的生长就和女性一样啊。理论上有x就能完全发育成女性,有Y(确切的说是决定发育成男性的基因,这都不一定在Y染色体上)才可能发育成男性,所以XY也可能完全发育成女性啊。
这些新闻记者怎么判断一个运动员是男还是女?
古代,用脱裤子目视法。
现在,还用这个原始的方法吗?
DNA,染色体,用不用?
这是个比较复杂的问题。像飞鱼菲尔普斯这种基因天赋禀异拥有各种像鱼般适合游泳的特殊构造的人是否需要禁赛?还有北欧某个天生EPO含量(就是让阿姆斯特朗身败名裂的那种兴奋剂物质)超过兴奋剂含量标准的人是否需要禁赛?其实里约甚至更早的奥运会大家就在探讨奥运会是否需要禁止天生基因禀异(这姑娘算这一类型,近年还发现了很多天生自产兴奋剂的人)、或者后天基因改造变异禀异的人参赛。这是个有意义的话题,但把人家性别单独拿出来说事儿就很无良了。要禁应该各种基因禀异都禁。但那样岂不又成了equity?
不过虽然有XY染色体,但是如果没有睾丸,无法产生雄激素还是不太会有男性特征。这点有没有解释?