美国情报部门官宣是哈马斯的分支所谓圣战队的火箭弹,下面黑体字非常重要,因为爆炸地点是大火和散状物,是地面爆炸,和空袭形成的打击完全不一样。 Officials told CNN separately that the initial evidence gathered by the US intelligence community suggests that the hospital strike came from a rocket launched by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad group. Among the evidence that’s been gathered is a blast analysis that suggests it was a ground explosion rather than an airstrike that hit the hospital, one of the sources said. There was no singular crater suggesting there was a bomb, but there was extensive fire damage and scattered debris that is consistent with an explosion starting from the ground level, according to the source. That analysis is one datapoint that’s led intelligence officials to lean toward assessing that the attack on the hospital was a rocket launch gone wrong.
美国情报部门官宣是哈马斯的分支所谓圣战队的火箭弹,下面黑体字非常重要,因为爆炸地点是大火和散状物,是地面爆炸,和空袭形成的打击完全不一样。 Officials told CNN separately that the initial evidence gathered by the US intelligence community suggests that the hospital strike came from a rocket launched by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad group. Among the evidence that’s been gathered is a blast analysis that suggests it was a ground explosion rather than an airstrike that hit the hospital, one of the sources said. There was no singular crater suggesting there was a bomb, but there was extensive fire damage and scattered debris that is consistent with an explosion starting from the ground level, according to the source. That analysis is one datapoint that’s led intelligence officials to lean toward assessing that the attack on the hospital was a rocket launch gone wrong.
以色列前几次轰炸加沙的时候用过dime,不过用没用应该很容易验证出来。 14年的报道 Renowned Norwegian doctor Mads Gilbert, who witnessed the horrific injuries caused by DIME bombs during Israel’s 2009 Gaza onslaught, told The Electronic Intifada over the phone from al-Shifa hospital in Gaza City that patients are showing up with DIME-related injuries. “A good number of the injuries seen here are consistent with the use of dense inert metal explosives, or DIME, that we saw during the 2009 attack and also in 2006,” said Gilbert. “The bodies are pretty much destroyed by enormous energy released by the explosives that are shot near them or at them.” Gilbert first witnessed the effects of DIME munitions on the human body during Operation Summer Rains, Israel’s 2006 months-long attack on the Gaza Strip that killed more than four hundred Palestinians. “Large chunks of flesh, of muscles were cut away. We didn’t find any shrapnel and [the wounds] were delivering a strange fume. Gradually we came to understand these must have been the new DIME weapons developed by the US Air Force together with the Israelis,” he said. The experimental weapon was used on a larger scale during Operation Cast Lead, Israel’s attack on Gaza in late 2008 and early 2009, which killed 1,400 Palestinians, including 352 children.
华尔街日报也报道了,美国情报机构宣布有high confidence确认是巴勒斯坦伊斯兰圣战队的恐怖分子干的 (至于是不是丧心病狂杀自己人自导自演没说) 美国的判断是基于美国窃听到的恐怖分子通讯和其他分析。 The U.S. has collected “high confidence” signals intelligence showing that the explosion at a Gaza hospital compound on Tuesday was caused by the militant group Palestinian Islamic Jihad, U.S. officials said, buttressing Israel’s contention that it wasn’t responsible for the blast. The U.S. assessment drew, in part, on communications intercepts and other intelligence gathered by the U.S., defense officials said. “Our current assessment, based on analysis of overhead imagery, intercepts and open source information, is that Israel is not responsible for the explosion at the hospital in Gaza,” White House National Security Council spokeswoman Adrienne Watson said, adding that the U.S. continues to collect information on the incident.
华尔街日报也报道了,美国情报机构宣布有high confidence确认是巴勒斯坦伊斯兰圣战队的恐怖分子干的 (至于是不是丧心病狂杀自己人自导自演没说) 美国的判断是基于美国窃听到的恐怖分子通讯和其他分析。 The U.S. has collected “high confidence” signals intelligence showing that the explosion at a Gaza hospital compound on Tuesday was caused by the militant group Palestinian Islamic Jihad, U.S. officials said, buttressing Israel’s contention that it wasn’t responsible for the blast. The U.S. assessment drew, in part, on communications intercepts and other intelligence gathered by the U.S., defense officials said. “Our current assessment, based on analysis of overhead imagery, intercepts and open source information, is that Israel is not responsible for the explosion at the hospital in Gaza,” White House National Security Council spokeswoman Adrienne Watson said, adding that the U.S. continues to collect information on the incident.
华尔街日报也报道了,美国情报机构宣布有high confidence确认是巴勒斯坦伊斯兰圣战队的恐怖分子干的 (至于是不是丧心病狂杀自己人自导自演没说) 美国的判断是基于美国窃听到的恐怖分子通讯和其他分析。 The U.S. has collected “high confidence” signals intelligence showing that the explosion at a Gaza hospital compound on Tuesday was caused by the militant group Palestinian Islamic Jihad, U.S. officials said, buttressing Israel’s contention that it wasn’t responsible for the blast. The U.S. assessment drew, in part, on communications intercepts and other intelligence gathered by the U.S., defense officials said. “Our current assessment, based on analysis of overhead imagery, intercepts and open source information, is that Israel is not responsible for the explosion at the hospital in Gaza,” White House National Security Council spokeswoman Adrienne Watson said, adding that the U.S. continues to collect information on the incident.
哦,其他网友贴的最新官方的新闻,就装傻了? 说什么美国白宫不可信,美国情报不可信,CNN不可信,以色列不可信,那我们信什么?只能信哈马斯? 楼主还造谣加拿大总理发言,下面是加拿大总理的推文,哪里说是谴责以色列干的?明明写的是 we must determine what happened 以为华人大妈都是文盲不懂英文?
哦,其他网友贴的最新官方的新闻,就装傻了? 说什么美国白宫不可信,美国情报不可信,CNN不可信,以色列不可信,那我们信什么?只能信哈马斯? 楼主还造谣加拿大总理发言,下面是加拿大总理的推文,哪里说是谴责以色列干的?明明写的是 we must determine what happened 以为华人大妈都是文盲不懂英文?
现在信息还是很混乱的,这是纽约时报的报道。一定要搞清楚,一定要追责 "The Israel Defense Forces said in a statement that hospitals were not Israeli military targets. “The I.D.F. is investigating the source of the explosion and, like always, is prioritizing accuracy and reliability,” the Israeli military said in a statement. “We urge everyone to proceed with caution.” lyksj 发表于 2023-10-17 15:22
BBC that about 1,000 displaced people were sheltering in the courtyard when it was hit, and about 600 patients and staff were inside the building. 有1000流离失所的人在外面避难。。。 (in the courtyard)
回复 1楼supersleeper的帖子 1. Israel didn’t do it, it was a misfire by a terror group. 2. The hospital wasn’t bombed, it was a parking lot. 3. There is no evidence that 500 died beyond what Hamas said
Dr. Ghassan Abu Sitta recalls his experience after witnessing the Israeli bombing of Al-Ahli Arab Hospital https://www.tiktok.com/@aljazeeraenglish/video/7291344751721221419 https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyZfLRUM-GW/
好像去那里避难的还是家里有点钱的,他们认为,医院不会被炸。
你发帖不多 可是已经很有名了。。。 其实板上支持以色列的就是那么一些id 太少了 所以就都记住了 再说谁在意你什么态度啊 我要给你带节奏
网上的香蕉都是这样选择性遗忘或者脑子真的不好使。
Gaza另外一处居民区被以色列轰炸的结果,
貌似也没有大弹坑
https://packaged-media.redd.it/2y1igzuxrsub1/pb/m2-res_1280p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1697652000&s=19ea2eeca3f951c917c200d1f9883ace31898336#t=0
无法就事论事,泼脏水就是你的逻辑。绿绿当年在陕西,屠村,屠城汉人有占他们的土地吗。你给绿绿洗地,真是愧对汉人祖先。
你那么支持以色列 干脆把家让出来给他多一点国土吧 虽然小但是他们应该不嫌弃
所以这是个啥武器啊?全球首发吗?
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不是,很早就有了,一般不会用在人群多的地方。
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看到没? 甚至木凳子都没移动。放人的架子都没倒。 你坐的椅子还在,但是你人却死了。这就是留地不留人啊。以色列这个国家太恶毒了。
我在最早的巴以冲突的帖子里面的回复,都是骂普京,支持乌克兰,关心俄乌战争的。因为那时候对巴以冲突不是那么关心。哈哈,最近成功被你们带着开始同情以色列了。你们的节奏真的带得很好,哈哈。
明白人
上面还一堆内塔尼亚胡极右粉丝再给以色列洗地?
Hamas火箭弹误炸?
1 精度这么高了?Hamas是用了Nvidia超级AI芯片精准定位医院的吗?
2 Hamas火箭弹,成功命中目标最大杀上有史以来记录不超过一次10人。这个好了,一夜之间突然功力提高100倍,竟然误炸都能这么厉害,Hamas要有这技术,以色列还有活人吗?
3 说是火箭弹燃料烧死不是炸死的 那尸体为啥没看到一具有被烧焦的?全部是面部安详
4 以色列要杀巴勒斯坦医院里面的人,用脚趾头想想都不可能直接用常规炸弹杀啊,那不是太明显了?
楼上有人贴的DIME弹,爆炸现场和杀伤原理和现场照片相符度很高。这招既杀了人,又可以搅乱试听,造成搞不清谁干的的局面
挺好的啊 你接着支持以色列吧 谁在乎你支持谁啊 你太高看自己了。简直是
Officials told CNN separately that the initial evidence gathered by the US intelligence community suggests that the hospital strike came from a rocket launched by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad group.
Among the evidence that’s been gathered is a blast analysis that suggests it was a ground explosion rather than an airstrike that hit the hospital, one of the sources said. There was no singular crater suggesting there was a bomb, but there was extensive fire damage and scattered debris that is consistent with an explosion starting from the ground level, according to the source.
That analysis is one datapoint that’s led intelligence officials to lean toward assessing that the attack on the hospital was a rocket launch gone wrong.
well said。 今天还有电视台说 如果是以色列炸的医院 那也是误炸 评论区里瞠目结舌。。。。whaaaaat。。。
楼主和几个上蹿下跳带节奏的还能知道脸疼?昨天说别人洗地臆想瞎猜,其实都是他们自己每天全职免费在做的
本贴的标题就是带节奏,到现在还在说小土豆谴责以色列。。但凡能去读一下小土豆的原话,也不至于。。
CNN 和Brandon都是精神白人洗地党
知道有人挺以色列,所以我只说说世界一半人占哈马斯,就是把你计算在内了。哈马斯的武器战力和以色列相比,还在史前社会,想当君子也当不了,否则不就是自己把头伸过去让人砍么?以色列和哈马斯,没有谁更高尚,以色列目前杀人的数量已经远超哈马斯
太惨了, 这个星期心情非常沉重阴郁
还有这个版上有些ID是如此地社会达尔文,让我叹为观止
上个星期就炸了联合国办的学校了。。
以色列政府官方公布的?
以色列前几次轰炸加沙的时候用过dime,不过用没用应该很容易验证出来。 14年的报道
Renowned Norwegian doctor Mads Gilbert, who witnessed the horrific injuries caused by DIME bombs during Israel’s 2009 Gaza onslaught, told The Electronic Intifada over the phone from al-Shifa hospital in Gaza City that patients are showing up with DIME-related injuries. “A good number of the injuries seen here are consistent with the use of dense inert metal explosives, or DIME, that we saw during the 2009 attack and also in 2006,” said Gilbert. “The bodies are pretty much destroyed by enormous energy released by the explosives that are shot near them or at them.” Gilbert first witnessed the effects of DIME munitions on the human body during Operation Summer Rains, Israel’s 2006 months-long attack on the Gaza Strip that killed more than four hundred Palestinians. “Large chunks of flesh, of muscles were cut away. We didn’t find any shrapnel and [the wounds] were delivering a strange fume. Gradually we came to understand these must have been the new DIME weapons developed by the US Air Force together with the Israelis,” he said. The experimental weapon was used on a larger scale during Operation Cast Lead, Israel’s attack on Gaza in late 2008 and early 2009, which killed 1,400 Palestinians, including 352 children.
要是不是以色列做的,为什么医院被炸了,他们就马上发Twitter 庆祝?后来知道不妙才火速删帖。
(至于是不是丧心病狂杀自己人自导自演没说)
美国的判断是基于美国窃听到的恐怖分子通讯和其他分析。
The U.S. has collected “high confidence” signals intelligence showing that the explosion at a Gaza hospital compound on Tuesday was caused by the militant group Palestinian Islamic Jihad, U.S. officials said, buttressing Israel’s contention that it wasn’t responsible for the blast.
The U.S. assessment drew, in part, on communications intercepts and other intelligence gathered by the U.S., defense officials said.
“Our current assessment, based on analysis of overhead imagery, intercepts and open source information, is that Israel is not responsible for the explosion at the hospital in Gaza,” White House National Security Council spokeswoman Adrienne Watson said, adding that the U.S. continues to collect information on the incident.
关注很多天,高赞这位MM的摆事实讲道理!
美国还说过炸中国大使馆是因为用了过时的地图
全世界的人都知道美国跟以色列穿一条裤子,所以除非拿得出来compelling evidence,US Intelligence空口白牙的话没有任何credit,只把美国更一步地拉进以色列的烂坑。
以色列发Twitter 庆祝?有来源吗?我想确认一下,核实后我和你一起谴责。
窃听到的 洗衣粉 和40个babies?
可不是吗!信息准确得都能把在伊拉克伪装成洗衣粉的大规模杀伤性武器找出来了
说什么美国白宫不可信,美国情报不可信,CNN不可信,以色列不可信,那我们信什么?只能信哈马斯?
楼主还造谣加拿大总理发言,下面是加拿大总理的推文,哪里说是谴责以色列干的?明明写的是 we must determine what happened
以为华人大妈都是文盲不懂英文?
以色列还全民皆兵呢,人人都有枪,随时可以杀人
以大妈们的逻辑
中国应该统一全世界
俄罗斯打乌克兰是应该的
我谁也不支持。 还是那句话,别打嘴炮。干点有用的。哪怕你给巴勒斯坦捐款呢。
那以色列花那么多钱 请你们发帖干什么?还不如上街游行呢?莫名其妙。
弹药库爆炸会有类似于烟花之类的效果。因为很多炸药和弹药,因为引线不同,会在不同的时间爆炸。 根据视频和声音,第一个被排除的就是弹药库。
拜托,最近很多人喜欢提以色列“全民皆兵”,俨然提了这个词就好像很了解以色列了,巴以局势讨论中就可以指点江山了。但是对这个词的定义都没搞清楚,“全民皆兵”是指以色列的强制兵役,而且男女都要求,不是说每个以色列人每时每刻都是士兵。而且不是只有以色列是这种兵役制,朝鲜、古巴、挪威、瑞典一样的,那些国家的人也是“随时可以杀人”?
再等等吧,着急信哪一方都没必要。何必急着站队。
在战争种追责,说笑了吧。
那个会有二次,三次爆炸。这次爆炸就是一声响。你说的这种引爆弹药库的说法早就被证明是不对的了。
中国的双标也不遑多让。按照中国现在的说法,疆独藏独都应该成立,而且新疆屠杀汉人是抵抗行为,不是恐怖活动。
韩国也是都要服兵役,但是得了啥冠军之类的就可以免兵役。所以一帮球员们哭着喊着要得冠军。免不了兵役就痛哭流涕,尼玛的为国家服役这么光荣的事情都这么不愿意吗???
巴勒斯坦人极端分子现在根本不想建国,他们是必须赶走犹太人。约旦现在很怕极端分子与其接壤。
就算是打不过,也可以搞暗杀,杀以色列的极右权贵啊,这不是通常有人性的弱势组织的正常做法吗?专门杀平民,而且是支持巴勒斯坦的平民,怎么洗地也洗不干净。
BBC that about 1,000 displaced people were sheltering in the courtyard when it was hit, and about 600 patients and staff were inside the building.
有1000流离失所的人在外面避难。。。 (in the courtyard)
美国情报局都是谁掌控?到现在还有人相信官方言论
为啥又扯到中国?是按你的说法吧,新疆人一不是原住民,二是那些信教信魔怔的在新疆持续恐袭,汉族在那边动不动就屠杀异族跟炸公车?西藏嘛,达赖都不寻求独立,成立个屁,等他出来寻求独立的时候再说吧。
说美国呢,你突然把中国提出来了?头脑咋这么混乱? 中国错,美国就洗白了?中国有那么能耐么?
要你这么扯,就扯到天边也扯不清,宇宙爆炸也扯不清。
说美国双标,突然提中国干啥?逻辑真是感人。
人家全是劣等人和关押在监牢里!色列人有平民站出来组织侵犯巴勒斯坦人土地吗?没有一个色列人!看看网上视频,更多的色列人主动侵占巴勒斯坦平民的房子,仅仅因为巴勒斯坦在他们眼里不是人。每个死的色列所谓的平民 并不是真的无辜!那些兴高采烈去巴勒斯坦被占领土上旅游的游客也都不完全无辜!
"由于缺少医疗用品和服务人员,决定轰炸加沙浸信会医院,对他们进行安乐死"
好的 ,你伟大正确!
抵抗什么啊?中国政府是炸学校炸医院填水井了还是屠杀平民了?
按照中国啥说法?
以色列是非法占有领土,而所有西方国家都承认西藏新疆是中国无可争议的一部分 所以西方的justification一直是虽然中国拥有对西藏新疆的主权,虽然这个主权无可争议,但是我们西方认同民族自决,所以你中国要给当地民众一个民族自决的机会,他们想独立就该让他们独立
但是从这角度来给以色列洗地,依然行不通 因为以色列的成立,恰恰建立在否定了当地阿拉伯人的民族自决权力上的 以色列目前的法律,也同样否定了已经归化以色列国籍的那些阿拉伯人的民族自决权
所以是谁在搞双标?
This is why
这帮人是只管自己造谣,不许别人反驳,也算一种新打法
隔了一天,以色列总算编出来一套洗地说辞,一层层下放给bbc cnn,拜登。
这个人特别喜欢根据谎言挺某个派别,而且事情真相出来后绝不道歉。天生的撒谎精
美国给以色列一个德州完全没有问题。我相信有良心的美国人都愿意支持。
我自己看到的视频,地上躺的就有小200号人,而且大部分是小孩。
内塔尼亚胡先生仅仅用了一周证明普京是多么的仁慈 😂
就这没有任何佐证的截图也信,连截图都不完整,上下文都没有。同样的微信截图可以伪造几千张。
1. Israel didn’t do it, it was a misfire by a terror group.
2. The hospital wasn’t bombed, it was a parking lot.
3. There is no evidence that 500 died beyond what Hamas said
对的,还有丝绸之路的时候就有汉人了,那时候哪有什么绿绿在新疆。
大家可以搜一下无国界医生组织成员外科医生加桑·阿布·西塔(Ghassan Abu Sittah)的视频或者采访。。这个是第一手资料
https://www.tiktok.com/@aljazeeraenglish/video/7291344751721221419 https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyZfLRUM-GW/
乌克兰也可以找到被炸烂的被屠杀的地方,加沙也可以找到保留完好的大楼。这两张照片没有可比性。看看乌克兰死了多少百姓?俄罗斯呢?
野蛮可怕,用文明装饰的野蛮更可怕。
照片当然只能对比典型的情况。事实就是俄罗斯比以色列打得文明得多。乌克兰死了多少百姓,加沙死了多少百姓?乌克兰被炸了多少学校医院民用设施,加沙被炸了多少?