美国申请大学,哪些奖项含金量最高,可以参考民间网上好事者鼓捣的这个表。

公用马甲27
楼主 (北美华人网)
10: Congrats Putnam Fellow Fields Medal Nobel Prize Medalist D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score; USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Regeneron ISEF 1st-4th place category; Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson Fellow; Presidential Scholar; MIT PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU 2 SAMS; NIH Research 3; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal. NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds), Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,” Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 1YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Bank of America Awards Presidential Service Award Volunteering Gold Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless Who’s Who; National Honor Roll; National Society of High School Scholars

 

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天啊,娃考个大学,我们当家长的还要参与到这个地步,那网站我看了跟天书一样,这得花多少心思才能当家长。 真的孩子考个大学家长得花这么多心思琢磨升学密集、自己弄得跟ao一样专业吗?这种家长我打赌平时学习肯定也是盯的,还有课外活动。这还活得下去吗。
m口罩sk 发表于 2023-10-09 07:03

自己娃的EC,哪些成就有多大影响,家长一般心里有数吧?其他娃的EC成就有多高,这个自然没必要了解。想了解的也就是个八卦的目的而已。
所以要不想参与,当然可以不参与。要想参与,只要了解自己娃的具体情况就够了,这些额外的东西帮助不大。
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Mark一下啊
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Mark, mark
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天书一般。
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太卷了。

 

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落地无声
这表有些年头了
公用马甲27
这表有些年头了
落地无声 发表于 2023-10-07 21:38

确实有的地方过时了。不知道哪里有没有最新的版本呢?有链接的话我可以修改首楼。
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sayyousayme
好奇问一声,Nationals是指什么? 只要qualify 了一个national competion, 获得参赛资格就算吗?还是一定要参加,或者得奖?
公用马甲27
好奇问一声,Nationals是指什么? 只要qualify 了一个national competion, 获得参赛资格就算吗?还是一定要参加,或者得奖?
sayyousayme 发表于 2023-10-07 21:55

哪一项里面的?第几行?
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yo37yo
光参加不算,nationalhistoryday有几千人参加,得奖的才算
一步一个脚印
Mark一下吧
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sayyousayme
光参加不算,nationalhistoryday有几千人参加,得奖的才算
yo37yo 发表于 2023-10-07 21:57

能参加这些national竞赛的,比如National History Day都是要经过regiaon和state淘汰的。
如果得奖才算,是前几名呢?是semi finalist, 还是finalist, 还是top 3?
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mark一下
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noodlewo
Mark
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mimazongwang
其实不用mark了,这个表应该已经过时了。
公用马甲27
其实不用mark了,这个表应该已经过时了。
mimazongwang 发表于 2023-10-07 22:16

具体哪里过时了?我觉得大部分还是靠谱的。
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autumncolor22
First Author in High Impact Factor Journal 拼爹就行。
呵呵笑
10: Congrats Putnam Fellow Fields Medal Nobel Prize Medalist D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score; USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Regeneron ISEF 1st-4th place category; Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson Fellow; Presidential Scholar; MIT PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU 2 SAMS; NIH Research 3; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal. NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds), Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,” Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 1YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Bank of America Awards Presidential Service Award Volunteering Gold Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless Who’s Who; National Honor Roll; National Society of High School Scholars
公用马甲27 发表于 2023-10-07 21:32

马克
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anonymsj
回复 1楼公用马甲27的帖子
好帖留名
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craigslist
我俄罗斯同事的儿子去年加拿大蝶泳金牌,今年被普林斯顿和upenn录取了,选择了upenn,她说按她家收入一年所有费用才交1万多。
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宿管阿姨
听说花滑的Vincent Zhou 前两年申请S,M都被据,后来才去了Brown. 他总有单项国际和国家级个人金牌银牌吧,ACT也是36分,按表格应该是妥妥的最高档十分的,咋也没中T5?
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zilliondollar
Mark
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aimyamy
mark一下
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babybaby
usaco白金现在是小中男标配,但是基本上只能保证旗舰州大cs
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Krystal2015
不明觉厉
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corfarm
好奇问一声,Nationals是指什么? 只要qualify 了一个national competion, 获得参赛资格就算吗?还是一定要参加,或者得奖?
sayyousayme 发表于 2023-10-07 21:55

这个表其实挺准的。层次非常分明,比方以TOC 举例来说 National Qualifier ( 参赛资格)是6;参加全国比赛后过了淘汰轮 就是7;在全国比赛中拿到前几名就是9. 9的话在申请大学中绝对有力,而7或8的话也是有一定分量的 (8实际上分量很重了)。
另外对很多大家耳熟能详的奖项也做了有效的界定:比方说AIME 的qualifer 只给了5,NMF只给了4 .... 等等
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corfarm
听说花滑的Vincent Zhou 前两年申请S,M都被据,后来才去了Brown. 他总有单项国际和国家级个人金牌银牌吧,ACT也是36分,按表格应该是妥妥的最高档十分的,咋也没中T5?
宿管阿姨 发表于 2023-10-07 23:22

BROWN 已经是牛校了呀。
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corfarm
usaco白金现在是小中男标配,但是基本上只能保证旗舰州大cs
babybaby 发表于 2023-10-07 23:40

USACO Platinum 在这个表中是7,确实属于可上可下的奖项。
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wisepaper
First Author in High Impact Factor Journal 拼爹就行。
autumncolor22 发表于 2023-10-07 22:29

science fair,DECA等等都可以拼爹。。。
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westcampus
听说花滑的Vincent Zhou 前两年申请S,M都被据,后来才去了Brown. 他总有单项国际和国家级个人金牌银牌吧,ACT也是36分,按表格应该是妥妥的最高档十分的,咋也没中T5?
宿管阿姨 发表于 2023-10-07 23:22

他哥大肯定是录的,选择布朗有原因。
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nodistance
回复 1楼公用马甲27的帖子
应该各个族裔分别搞一张,建模型都需要segment
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uglyduck
science fair,DECA等等都可以拼爹。。。
wisepaper 发表于 2023-10-08 00:09

DECA怎么拼爹?
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medstat
他哥大肯定是录的,选择布朗有原因。
westcampus 发表于 2023-10-08 00:18

两个学校课程设置正好是反着的,一个core curriculum 一个open curriculum
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zedflying
不明觉厉—
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frogw
mark一下
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ilgh
马克 奖项含金量
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NJ橘猫
录取是个玄学。没这些所谓大奖,一样有可能进top school
王小组长
录取是个玄学。没这些所谓大奖,一样有可能进top school
NJ橘猫 发表于 2023-10-08 02:04

除非是(1)顶私和那些有名的藤校feeder school,或者(2)有大领导力,在藤校喜欢的高中里是学校老师极力推荐的红人。
聆海
mark
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Alice737
Mark.
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NJ橘猫
除非是(1)顶私和那些有名的藤校feeder school,或者(2)有大领导力,在藤校喜欢的高中里是学校老师极力推荐的红人。
王小组长 发表于 2023-10-08 02:09

你说的这些我都没有。
王小组长
你说的这些我都没有。
NJ橘猫 发表于 2023-10-08 02:14

你是说你自己上大学的时候?那至少十几年前了吧?那是老黄历了,现在情况早就totally不一样了。
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10: Congrats Putnam Fellow Fields Medal Nobel Prize Medalist D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score; USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Regeneron ISEF 1st-4th place category; Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson Fellow; Presidential Scholar; MIT PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU 2 SAMS; NIH Research 3; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal. NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds), Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,” Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 1YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Bank of America Awards Presidential Service Award Volunteering Gold Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless Who’s Who; National Honor Roll; National Society of High School Scholars
公用马甲27 发表于 2023-10-07 21:32

谢谢分享
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njschua
马克 奖项含金量 谢谢分享
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公用马甲49
Nobel Prize Medalist 啥意思?诺奖得主?我特么要是得诺奖了还去上个鸡毛大学。 后悔虽然是个博士,论文做的却很不怎么样。不然怎么也能替娃写一篇single author in high impact factor journal的论文。不过我想那些父母是牛教授的应该不难帮娃实现吧。
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luoliluosuo
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辩论9那档是winner,指的是第一名。
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maodouchong
Ok ok,记录一下
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gogosandy
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blueberryM
Mark
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saiguajiataoyan
都知道有用
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cosc
好帖留名
乔峰
mark 哈哈哈哈
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ca563
Nobel Prize Medalist 啥意思?诺奖得主?我特么要是得诺奖了还去上个鸡毛大学。 后悔虽然是个博士,论文做的却很不怎么样。不然怎么也能替娃写一篇single author in high impact factor journal的论文。不过我想那些父母是牛教授的应该不难帮娃实现吧。
公用马甲49 发表于 2023-10-08 05:26

在自己父母实验室或者公司做出来成就都没用。所以这大佬们都是资源互换,互相换孩子带。
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Ascenk
我觉得太功利了,就为了升学专营这些?让娃做自己有兴趣的事,参加自己感兴趣的活动就好了。
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mimazongwang
具体哪里过时了?我觉得大部分还是靠谱的。
公用马甲27 发表于 2023-10-07 22:24

这个表少说有5年了,5年时间录取情况变化已经非常大了,当亚裔在努力搞大奖的时候,其他族裔基本放弃,你可以看看美国各种学术代表队基本都是亚裔去打。不是说这些奖项含金量下去了,除了USACO,现在应该都是越来越难了,而是说录取的weight 降低了。 我们学校去年有mopper 申请数学系被MIT据了,孩子本身GPA也不低的,而且我们是feeder,以前这种情况都是躺进。
这些个人大奖都是很花时间的,不是每个孩子都是balance GPA和大奖,而且5年后情况不知道会变成啥样,各位孩子还小的,看看就行了。最重要的是培养孩子的兴趣。
P.S.这表最开始应该是在文学城的论坛,有心的家长可以去问现在的情况。
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noproblemo
“P.S.这表最开始应该是在文学城的论坛,有心的家长可以去问现在的情况。”
不是,文学城没有什么original 的东西。这个表是十几年前College Confidential forum里整理出来的。
星河锦浪
诺贝尔奖和菲尔兹奖出现在高中生成就表里总感觉这个list的可信度值得怀疑
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shanggj
诺贝尔奖和菲尔兹奖出现在高中生成就表里总感觉这个list的可信度值得怀疑
星河锦浪 发表于 2023-10-08 08:32

用来调侃的
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mjtalk
Google code jam我觉得已经非常难了,为啥权重才6点多,难道还是能达到这个水平的人太多?所以那个Stanley被MIT和UC全拒也并没有太离谱?简直不知道卷到什么程度才够了,怪不得前两天有个帖子问跟中国教授一起发SCI能不能写,都在绞尽脑汁另辟蹊径
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Salad777
Google code jam我觉得已经非常难了,为啥权重才6点多,难道还是能达到这个水平的人太多?所以那个Stanley被MIT和UC全拒也并没有太离谱?简直不知道卷到什么程度才够了,怪不得前两天有个帖子问跟中国教授一起发SCI能不能写,都在绞尽脑汁另辟蹊径
mjtalk 发表于 2023-10-08 08:43

Meta hacker cup,我家最小的男孩11年级进到round 2,年龄限制不能继续。他说跟USACO gold难度差不多。他是今年入大学的。供参考。
披马甲奔真人
都不容易啊
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katherine_hu
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公用马甲49
Google code jam我觉得已经非常难了,为啥权重才6点多,难道还是能达到这个水平的人太多?所以那个Stanley被MIT和UC全拒也并没有太离谱?简直不知道卷到什么程度才够了,怪不得前两天有个帖子问跟中国教授一起发SCI能不能写,都在绞尽脑汁另辟蹊径
mjtalk 发表于 2023-10-08 08:43

哈哈哈,那当然,我娃才4岁,我已经想好让他将来去哪个我在美国当教授的亲友那混文章了。高中时再花钱给他买个非洲volunteer的经历和一帮黑孩子照个相,完美~
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saiguajiataoyan
要是想得哪个就🉐️哪个的情况,就无需计较
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shoon_yee
辛辛苦苦按人家标准做,然后被拒呢? 有必要这么做吗?还不如保证学习的前提下做自己喜欢做的。
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Sleepy3824
为什么没有Oscar, Golden Globe, Emmy, Medal of Honor?
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Mark
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allday
这个表少说有5年了,5年时间录取情况变化已经非常大了,当亚裔在努力搞大奖的时候,其他族裔基本放弃,你可以看看美国各种学术代表队基本都是亚裔去打。不是说这些奖项含金量下去了,除了USACO,现在应该都是越来越难了,而是说录取的weight 降低了。 我们学校去年有mopper 申请数学系被MIT据了,孩子本身GPA也不低的,而且我们是feeder,以前这种情况都是躺进。
这些个人大奖都是很花时间的,不是每个孩子都是balance GPA和大奖,而且5年后情况不知道会变成啥样,各位孩子还小的,看看就行了。最重要的是培养孩子的兴趣。
P.S.这表最开始应该是在文学城的论坛,有心的家长可以去问现在的情况。
mimazongwang 发表于 2023-10-08 08:21

请问是文学城哪个板块?我去看看
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请问是文学城哪个板块?我去看看
allday 发表于 2023-10-08 10:13

一看这个就不是文学城的老留能编出来的。还是去看college confidential或者reddit吧
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Mark.
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Google code jam我觉得已经非常难了,为啥权重才6点多,难道还是能达到这个水平的人太多?所以那个Stanley被MIT和UC全拒也并没有太离谱?简直不知道卷到什么程度才够了,怪不得前两天有个帖子问跟中国教授一起发SCI能不能写,都在绞尽脑汁另辟蹊径
mjtalk 发表于 2023-10-08 08:43

Google Code Jam Qualifier 是 6 (6.5), Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier 是 8. Standley 那个CASE 是Google Code Jam semifinal, 没说清是上面那个。 既然是semifinal, 应该是上面的8,那样的话确实亏大了。
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这个表少说有5年了,5年时间录取情况变化已经非常大了,当亚裔在努力搞大奖的时候,其他族裔基本放弃,你可以看看美国各种学术代表队基本都是亚裔去打。不是说这些奖项含金量下去了,除了USACO,现在应该都是越来越难了,而是说录取的weight 降低了。 我们学校去年有mopper 申请数学系被MIT据了,孩子本身GPA也不低的,而且我们是feeder,以前这种情况都是躺进。
这些个人大奖都是很花时间的,不是每个孩子都是balance GPA和大奖,而且5年后情况不知道会变成啥样,各位孩子还小的,看看就行了。最重要的是培养孩子的兴趣。
P.S.这表最开始应该是在文学城的论坛,有心的家长可以去问现在的情况。
mimazongwang 发表于 2023-10-08 08:21

这个 Mopper 后来去了别的 T5了吗?现在Mopper都不能进MIT 了,太夸张了
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宿管阿姨
Google Code Jam Qualifier 是 6 (6.5), Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier 是 8. Standley 那个CASE 是Google Code Jam semifinal, 没说清是上面那个。 既然是semifinal, 应该是上面的8,那样的话确实亏大了。
corfarm 发表于 2023-10-08 10:32

Google Code Jam这个比赛去年已经取消了
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听说花滑的Vincent Zhou 前两年申请S,M都被据,后来才去了Brown. 他总有单项国际和国家级个人金牌银牌吧,ACT也是36分,按表格应该是妥妥的最高档十分的,咋也没中T5?
宿管阿姨 发表于 2023-10-07 23:22

花滑的性价比好像是有点差,Karen Chen 有全国冠军的,也只去了Cornell
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Google Code Jam这个比赛去年已经取消了
宿管阿姨 发表于 2023-10-08 10:38

哦,看来那个表确实要与时俱进了
清白人生
这么多,牛
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花滑的性价比好像是有点差,Karen Chen 有全国冠军的,也只去了Cornell
Captaintoo 发表于 2023-10-08 10:45

有两个不是olympian的figure skaters去的是harvard, 一个是Christina Gao, 另一个是Gabbie Izzo。Sarah Hughes去的是Yale, Emily Hughes好像去的是Harvard。虽然T5或HMS的prestige是很多人看重的,我觉得性价比并不是只能进了T5才会被体现。不过我觉得像花滑这类的体育娃全家长期投入都很大,只看升学的话大部分不值得,孩子没有爱好毅力和天赋都是坚持不下去的。
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回复 1楼公用马甲27的帖子
10分里的1-3是被人加进去搞笑的吧。
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有两个不是olympian的figure skaters去的是harvard, 一个是Christina Gao, 另一个是Gabbie Izzo。Sarah Hughes去的是Yale, Emily Hughes好像去的是Harvard。虽然T5或HMS的prestige是很多人看重的,我觉得性价比并不是只能进了T5才会被体现。不过我觉得像花滑这类的体育娃全家长期投入都很大,只看升学的话大部分不值得,孩子没有爱好毅力和天赋都是坚持不下去的。
ZDI92JJ1 发表于 2023-10-08 11:04


那个michigan练花滑的女孩不是本来进了斯坦福,结果因为和老爹吵架被抓最后去了cc
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需要存下慢慢看
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ZDI92JJ1

那个michigan练花滑的女孩不是本来进了斯坦福,结果因为和老爹吵架被抓最后去了cc
babybaby 发表于 2023-10-08 11:09

这个我一直不知道是不是真的,除了中文媒体其它地方都没有提到过。这孩子当年11年级应该还没有开始申请大学,花滑也不是NCAA的运动项目,其他人包括Nathan Vincent Karen都是应届申请的, 我觉得以她的花滑成绩不太可能提前一年被Stanford录取。
热气腾腾
mark 美国申请大学,哪些奖项含金量最高
草原小马
这个已经过时,并且严重误导升学
按照这个,你家娃就废了
藤校的招生不是按这个来的
奖项不是全部,profile 的自洽是最重要的
亚裔这个里面搞的越多,越像彼此,越有反作用

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太功利了!就为了T5, 孩子不知要准备多少年!
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Nobel Prize Medalist----列入这一项是认真的还是搞笑的
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diandian1119
在低分的高中杂志写个review算吗?
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不能同意楼上对这个表完全否决的说法, 大学录取标准一直是非常opaque的, 这张表是作为家长学生第一次试图turn the table用可以计量的方式来解读录取。 这里的家长很多娃很小, 或者被wechat和华人的网站totally consumed。特别是经常早上来发帖的, 呵呵,就不说了。 就说几点吧,小蛙家长的升学研究可以从College Confidential开始, 那里的人数优势和历史资料最能体现申请pool的情况, 论坛不仅分年度,分专业/兴趣也分大学, 有足够时间的话看完可以当半个专家。 再看Reddit ApplyToCollege, 这里以当届高中生为主亚裔最多, mod管理不错, 信息很新准确率高, 国内顾问群很多文章很多是从这两个论坛挖出来几手贩子倒卖的。 说到顾问, 经常有资生的顾问和AO在这两个论坛发言指导, 最著名的是Dean J from UVA。 再回到这个表, 确实不是最新的虽然这个在CC 的thread一直没有close, 有讨论也有更正。 有的奖项camp都已经没有了。 但是升学不是打勾, 有了进, 或者三个勾可以进两个勾不行。 当初建这个表是有很多data在背后的, 你要看的是什么level of competitiveness and selectiveness被排在前面, 被什么水平的大学推从, 同一类型的活动, 为什么有的奖更值钱。 有了这些认识你再去看现在的奖项和活动, 对自己升学的机会影响力怎么样。 板上名言, “牛娃能横扫,T5/T10/T20全部申请吧”, 这对那些犹豫不决的孩子有害无益。 大学录取不是审查学生是审查申请的application, 再“牛”的学生application写的不好根本不显得“牛”。 对自己所在的pool,或者针对T10来讲对自己在全部申请学生横向比较,没有认识的话, 就是crapshoot。 最后说一下国内的顾问, 如果你有足够的钱足够的信心和胆量, 可以找到miracle worker。 但是pay to play一直争议大, 怎么投其所好又不穿帮是一门学问。
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宿管阿姨
这个我一直不知道是不是真的,除了中文媒体其它地方都没有提到过。这孩子当年11年级应该还没有开始申请大学,花滑也不是NCAA的运动项目,其他人包括Nathan Vincent Karen都是应届申请的, 我觉得以她的花滑成绩不太可能提前一年被Stanford录取。
ZDI92JJ1 发表于 2023-10-08 11:18

假的,根本不可能花滑被提前录取,无良中文媒体信口胡说。
宿
宿管阿姨
不能同意楼上对这个表完全否决的说法, 大学录取标准一直是非常opaque的, 这张表是作为家长学生第一次试图turn the table用可以计量的方式来解读录取。 这里的家长很多娃很小, 或者被wechat和华人的网站totally consumed。特别是经常早上来发帖的, 呵呵,就不说了。 就说几点吧,小蛙家长的升学研究可以从College Confidential开始, 那里的人数优势和历史资料最能体现申请pool的情况, 论坛不仅分年度,分专业/兴趣也分大学, 有足够时间的话看完可以当半个专家。 再看Reddit ApplyToCollege, 这里以当届高中生为主亚裔最多, mod管理不错, 信息很新准确率高, 国内顾问群很多文章很多是从这两个论坛挖出来几手贩子倒卖的。 说到顾问, 经常有资生的顾问和AO在这两个论坛发言指导, 最著名的是Dean J from UVA。 再回到这个表, 确实不是最新的虽然这个在CC 的thread一直没有close, 有讨论也有更正。 有的奖项camp都已经没有了。 但是升学不是打勾, 有了进, 或者三个勾可以进两个勾不行。 当初建这个表是有很多data在背后的, 你要看的是什么level of competitiveness and selectiveness被排在前面, 被什么水平的大学推从, 同一类型的活动, 为什么有的奖更值钱。 有了这些认识你再去看现在的奖项和活动, 对自己升学的机会影响力怎么样。 板上名言, “牛娃能横扫,T5/T10/T20全部申请吧”, 这对那些犹豫不决的孩子有害无益。 大学录取不是审查学生是审查申请的application, 再“牛”的学生application写的不好根本不显得“牛”。 对自己所在的pool,或者针对T10来讲对自己在全部申请学生横向比较,没有认识的话, 就是crapshoot。 最后说一下国内的顾问, 如果你有足够的钱足够的信心和胆量, 可以找到miracle worker。 但是pay to play一直争议大, 怎么投其所好又不穿帮是一门学问。
noproblemo 发表于 2023-10-08 12:52

有水平,言之有物。
蓝雪花
Mark一下。不是说一定要对照这个表,如果孩子有才华,父母可以帮着推一下。没才华的孩子,推也没有用。
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10: Congrats Putnam Fellow Fields Medal Nobel Prize Medalist D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score; USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Regeneron ISEF 1st-4th place category; Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson Fellow; Presidential Scholar; MIT PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU 2 SAMS; NIH Research 3; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal. NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds), Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,” Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 1YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Bank of America Awards Presidential Service Award Volunteering Gold Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless Who’s Who; National Honor Roll; National Society of High School Scholars
公用马甲27 发表于 2023-10-07 21:32

Mark
申请大学时各种荣誉称号
小菜鸟
Mark一下,也不知道再过几年轮到我家孩子时还行不行得通。
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各种这样的表,总得来说是可以提供一些信息的。
但事实上,这些信息实际上主要对旁观者有用。真的和孩子一起一步一步走到那个地步的人,基本上心里都有数了。特别是对孩子主打的EC项目,家长还能真不知道自己孩子这一领域各种成就大概是什么程度么?比如,孩子拼音乐的,谁会真的不知道all nation大概是什么层次?all state是个什么层次?(实际上这表里没有列出更高的,比如Young Artist。。。至于那些专业自己的大奖,就更不用说了)
连这些都不知道的家长,也不用看这种表了。就算看,也就是为了自个儿爽一把或者能有个谈资而已。
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诺贝尔奖和菲尔兹奖出现在高中生成就表里总感觉这个list的可信度值得怀疑
星河锦浪 发表于 2023-10-08 08:32

马拉拉就是诺贝尔奖
紫玫瑰
10: Congrats Putnam Fellow Fields Medal Nobel Prize Medalist D1 athlete IMO/IPHO/ICHO/IBO/IOI/IOAA/IOL gold/silver medals Regeneron STS Top 10; ISEF Top 3 Grand Prize; History Day National Winner Single/First Author in High Impact Factor Journal Special performance/Solo at Carnegie Hall International Competitor in a Sport Boys Nation President RSI (Research Science Institute)
9: Almost a ticket to a prestigious school Regeneron STS Finalist; ISEF Best of Category MOP NSDA Nationals winner Tournament of Champions Winner NCFL Nationals Winner Published in a relatively prestigious journal TASP National Student Poet Jimmy Awards (musical theatre)
8: Amazing accomplishment; Large boost USAMO qualification; AMC 12 Perfect Score; USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/USACO National Finalist Regeneron ISEF 1st-4th place category; Regeneron STS semifinalist; Davidson Fellow; Presidential Scholar; MIT PRIMES; MITES Concord Review Publication FIRST Dean’s List winner; top 5 at FIRST World Championships Google Code Jam Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) Facebook Hacker Cup Round 2, 3 Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) International Public Policy Forum Top 32 team Writing Portfolio Gold Award; Presidential Scholar of the Arts; Scholastic Art; All National Band or Orchestra performer Boys Nation Participant SIMR Clark Scholars
7: ARML Tiebreaker Round; USAMTS Gold Medal; HMMT top 50 CMU 2 SAMS; NIH Research 3; Iowa Writer’s Workshop; SUMAC; ROSS; SSP; Simons; PROMYS; Mathcamp; Garcia State governors schools with acceptance rate <15% (PGSS, NJGSS, most other science governor’s schools) USACO Platinum Division ISEF Finalist Top Team, YES Competition (Young Epidemiology Scholarship) History Day National Level Scholastic Art & Writing National Gold Medal. NFL Nationals (speech and debate) “breakers” (elimination rounds), Tournament of Champions (debate) “breakers,” Congressional Award Gold Medalist International Public Policy Forum Top 64 team Foyle Young Poet US Senate Page
6: (6.5) Google Code Jam Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) (6.5) Facebook Hacker Cup Qualifier (Vast majority of Competitors are College students and professionals) USACO Gold Division AMC 10 Perfect Score Less competitive governor’s schools (Acceptance rate between 15% and 25%), any other scholarship summer programs not aforementioned Congressional Award Silver Medalist; NFL Nationals; Tournament of Champions Qualifier Science Bowl/Ocean Science Bowl/NAQT winners; Technology Student Association Nationals FIRST Dean’s List finalist; Top 5 FIRST Super Regionals (FTC) Scholastic Art & Writing National Silver Medal State Science Fair Winner/Top Award (Depends on state) Academic Decathlon State (CA) Honors Top 3 University-run poetry contests (Patricia Grodd Prize, Lewis Center at Princeton Prize, etc) Very selective summer programs (acceptance rate 10-15%: TASS, UC Davis 1YSP, IOWA SSTP, BU RISE, UCSB RMP, HCSSiM, BOA Student Leaders, HSMC, Rockefeller SSRP, EFL, M&TSI…)
5: Pretty good; will complement an already strong record FBLA Nationals USAPhO/USNCO/USABO/NAO semifinals AIME qualification National Latin Convention 1st Places Academic Contests, All-Eastern/all-regional music, State History Day top 3 place Top 5 FIRST State Championship (or Regionals for FRC), JETS TEAMS National Finalist, Skills USA Nationals Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI), Nationals Top 3 Honors & California Event Golds Selective summer academic programs (acceptance rate 15-25%: UC COSMOS, UF SSTP, Wharton LBW, MIT Launch…)
4: Fairly difficult USACO Silver Division Science Fair Regional winner Science Bowl national qualification Perfect Score (Multiple Years) on National Latin/Spanish/French Exam State awards (all-state music, etc) Academic Decathlon State (AZ/TX/MA/WI) Event Golds National Merit Finalist MUN Gavel AMC 10/12 school winner (depends on your school) Art and Writing Regional Gold award Top 5 FIRST Regional (FTC) Position in Local Government National AP Scholar at Junior Year
3: Some effort involved, but not uncommon Student Body Winning at local/regional science fairs All-County music Eagle Scout Gold Award (with prior Silver and Bronze Awards) Head of a competitive club that you did not found (ex: Mock Trial, Model UN, Science Olympiad) Editor in chief of award-winning school newspaper Head of a club with large membership and substantial activities (Interact Club)
2: Your average go-getter Bank of America Awards Presidential Service Award Volunteering Gold Local awards/trophies Essay Contests Regional History Day
1: Common activities National Honor Society Beta Club School Departmental Awards School Honor Roll Key Club; CSF; Interact Club National Merit Commended Member of a club with no distinctions earned
0: A dime in a dozen; meaningless Who’s Who; National Honor Roll; National Society of High School Scholars
公用马甲27 发表于 2023-10-07 21:32

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