BreakingNews:10岁的俄亥俄州女孩被强奸，法院拒绝了她的堕胎申请

你没弄懂问题的核心。
问题的核心不在于人均脑残程度，而在于脑残群体对政策有多大的影响力。maybe，美国的脑残比例跟欧洲比差不多（即使这个也是存疑的，毕竟，没有一个欧洲国家，会在女性堕胎权上有任何本质性的不同），but，美国的州权，给予了在深红州处于多数的脑残们极大的政治权利，他们利用手中的选票，去选择那些政治动物，为自己的脑残理念站台、立法。
你喷大法官是没有太多道理的，司法系统不负责立法，只负责公正地implement议员们approve的法律。罪魁祸首肯定是那些选票奴隶 - - 不知廉耻、没有基本价值观的议员。
wukanglu2 发表于 2022-07-02 13:04

有一个在堕胎医生的文章，说其实来堕胎的也有不少pro-life的人，还有一些今天来堕胎，明天有和别的人一起在外面反对堕胎。
心理学角度就是这些人在自己会觉得这种事情不会发生在自己身上，一旦发生了又会觉得自己是一个特例，和别的需要堕胎的女性不一样，会去justify自己的行为，没有同理心。
The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion 这篇文章写得挺好的： https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/
开头这几个例子都满典型的： In the spring of 2000, I collected the following anecdotes directly from abortion doctors and other clinic staff in North America, Australia, and Europe. The stories are presented in the providers’ own words, with minor editing for grammar, clarity, and brevity. Names have been omitted to protect privacy. “I have done several abortions on women who have regularly picketed my clinics, including a 16 year old schoolgirl who came back to picket the day after her abortion, about three years ago. During her whole stay at the clinic, we felt that she was not quite right, but there were no real warning bells. She insisted that the abortion was her idea and assured us that all was OK. She went through the procedure very smoothly and was discharged with no problems. A quite routine operation. Next morning she was with her mother and several school mates in front of the clinic with the usual anti posters and chants. It appears that she got the abortion she needed and still displayed the appropriate anti views expected of her by her parents, teachers, and peers.” (Physician, Australia)
“I’ve had several cases over the years in which the anti-abortion patient had rationalized in one way or another that her case was the only exception, but the one that really made an impression was the college senior who was the president of her campus Right-to-Life organization, meaning that she had worked very hard in that organization for several years. As I was completing her procedure, I asked what she planned to do about her high office in the RTL organization. Her response was a wide-eyed, ‘You’re not going to tell them, are you!?’ When assured that I was not, she breathed a sigh of relief, explaining how important that position was to her and how she wouldn’t want this to interfere with it.” (Physician, Texas)  “In 1990, in the Boston area, Operation Rescue and other groups were regularly blockading the clinics, and many of us went every Saturday morning for months to help women and staff get in. As a result, we knew many of the ‘antis’ by face. One morning, a woman who had been a regular ‘sidewalk counselor’ went into the clinic with a young woman who looked like she was 16-17, and obviously her daughter. When the mother came out about an hour later, I had to go up and ask her if her daughter’s situation had caused her to change her mind. ‘I don’t expect you to understand my daughter’s situation!’ she angrily replied. The following Saturday, she was back, pleading with women entering the clinic not to ‘murder their babies.''''''''” (Clinic escort, Massachusetts)
“We too have seen our share of anti-choice women, ones the counselors usually grit their teeth over. Just last week a woman announced loudly enough for all to hear in the recovery room, that she thought abortion should be illegal. Amazingly, this was her second abortion within the last few months, having gotten pregnant again within a month of the first abortion. The nurse handled it by talking about all the carnage that went on before abortion was legalized and how fortunate she was to be receiving safe, professional care. However, this young woman continued to insist it was wrong and should be made illegal. Finally the nurse said, ‘Well, I guess we won’t be seeing you here again, not that you’re not welcome.’ Later on, another patient who had overheard this exchange thanked the nurse for her remarks.” (Clinic Administrator, Alberta)
“We saw a woman recently who after four attempts and many hours of counseling both at the hospital and our clinic, finally, calmly and uneventfully, had her abortion. Four months later, she called me on Christmas Eve to tell me that she was not and never was pro-choice and that we failed to recognize that she was clinically depressed at the time of her abortion. The purpose of her call was to chastise me for not sending her off to the psych unit instead of the procedure room.” (Clinic Administrator, Alberta)  “Recently, we had a patient who had given a history of being a ‘pro-life’ activist, but who had decided to have an abortion. She was pleasant to me and our initial discussion was mutually respectful. Later, she told someone on my staff that she thought abortion is murder, that she is a murderer, and that she is murdering her baby. So before doing her procedure, I asked her if she thought abortion is murder — the answer was yes. I asked her if she thought I am a murderer, and if she thought I would be murdering her baby, and she said yes. But murder is a crime, and murderers are executed. Is this a crime? Well, it should be, she said. At that point, she became angry and hostile, and the summary of the conversation was that she regarded me as an abortion-dispensing machine, and how dare I ask her what she thinks. After explaining to her that I do not perform abortions for people who think I am a murderer or people who are angry at me, I declined to provide her with medical care. I do not know whether she found someone else to do her abortion.” (Physician, Colorado)  “In 1973, after Roe v. Wade, abortion became legal but had to be performed in a hospital. That of course was changed later. For the first ‘legal abortion day’ I had scheduled five procedures. While scrubbing between cases, I was accosted by the Chief of the OB/Gyn service. He asked me, ‘How many children are you going to kill today?’ My response, out of anger, was a familiar vulgar retort. About three months later, this born-again Christian called me to explain that he was against abortion but his daughter was only a junior in high school and was too young to have a baby and he was also afraid that if she did have a baby she would not want to put it up for adoption. I told him he did not need to explain the situation to me. ‘All I need to know’, I said, ‘is that SHE wants an abortion.’ Two years later I performed a second abortion on her during her college break. She thanked me and pleaded, ‘Please don’t tell my dad, he is still anti-abortion.''''''''” (Physician, Washington State)
babeann 发表于 2022-07-02 12:27

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落地无声 发表于 2022-07-02 11:16

我虽然觉得T X整体sb到家，凭什么用tax payer的钱干这种缺德事。但不代表我不能讨论并且指出你在孕妇的事情要不看英文原文制造恐慌。我估计我再去翻翻reddit local讨论，你那些“解读”很大可能又是skewed。毕竟要证明医护提供口头建议，除了患者和监护人，除非医护自己举报自己。这个悬赏实操性极差，基本用来恶心人。
甜甜圈123 发表于 2022-07-03 08:14

上诉去哪里？高院么？高院说了，不管啊，你们州的事不关我们的事。别烦我。 人权？出生的人没有，胚胎有 11-year-old Ohio girl pregnant with rapist''s baby may be forced to bear child because of ''fetal heartbeat'' law The Human Rights Protection Act signed into law in April enforces a ban on abortion as soon as a doctor can detect fetal cardiac activity but has no concessions for pregnancies resulting from rape By Akshay Pai  Updated On : 13:24 PST, Apr 8, 2020 https://meaww.com/amp/11-year-old-ohio-girl-pregnant-rapists-baby-may-be-forced-to-bear-child-because-fetal-heartbeat-law
落地无声 发表于 2022-07-02 10:28