有一个在堕胎医生的文章，说其实来堕胎的也有不少pro-life的人，还有一些今天来堕胎，明天有和别的人一起在外面反对堕胎。 心理学角度就是这些人在自己会觉得这种事情不会发生在自己身上，一旦发生了又会觉得自己是一个特例，和别的需要堕胎的女性不一样，会去justify自己的行为，没有同理心。 The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion 这篇文章写得挺好的： https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/ 开头这几个例子都满典型的： In the spring of 2000, I collected the following anecdotes directly from abortion doctors and other clinic staff in North America, Australia, and Europe. The stories are presented in the providers’ own words, with minor editing for grammar, clarity, and brevity. Names have been omitted to protect privacy. “I have done several abortions on women who have regularly picketed my clinics, including a 16 year old schoolgirl who came back to picket the day after her abortion, about three years ago. During her whole stay at the clinic, we felt that she was not quite right, but there were no real warning bells. She insisted that the abortion was her idea and assured us that all was OK. She went through the procedure very smoothly and was discharged with no problems. A quite routine operation. Next morning she was with her mother and several school mates in front of the clinic with the usual anti posters and chants. It appears that she got the abortion she needed and still displayed the appropriate anti views expected of her by her parents, teachers, and peers.” (Physician, Australia) “I’ve had several cases over the years in which the anti-abortion patient had rationalized in one way or another that her case was the only exception, but the one that really made an impression was the college senior who was the president of her campus Right-to-Life organization, meaning that she had worked very hard in that organization for several years. As I was completing her procedure, I asked what she planned to do about her high office in the RTL organization. Her response was a wide-eyed, ‘You’re not going to tell them, are you!?’ When assured that I was not, she breathed a sigh of relief, explaining how important that position was to her and how she wouldn’t want this to interfere with it.” (Physician, Texas) “In 1990, in the Boston area, Operation Rescue and other groups were regularly blockading the clinics, and many of us went every Saturday morning for months to help women and staff get in. As a result, we knew many of the ‘antis’ by face. One morning, a woman who had been a regular ‘sidewalk counselor’ went into the clinic with a young woman who looked like she was 16-17, and obviously her daughter. When the mother came out about an hour later, I had to go up and ask her if her daughter’s situation had caused her to change her mind. ‘I don’t expect you to understand my daughter’s situation!’ she angrily replied. The following Saturday, she was back, pleading with women entering the clinic not to ‘murder their babies.''''''''” (Clinic escort, Massachusetts) “We too have seen our share of anti-choice women, ones the counselors usually grit their teeth over. Just last week a woman announced loudly enough for all to hear in the recovery room, that she thought abortion should be illegal. Amazingly, this was her second abortion within the last few months, having gotten pregnant again within a month of the first abortion. The nurse handled it by talking about all the carnage that went on before abortion was legalized and how fortunate she was to be receiving safe, professional care. However, this young woman continued to insist it was wrong and should be made illegal. Finally the nurse said, ‘Well, I guess we won’t be seeing you here again, not that you’re not welcome.’ Later on, another patient who had overheard this exchange thanked the nurse for her remarks.” (Clinic Administrator, Alberta) “We saw a woman recently who after four attempts and many hours of counseling both at the hospital and our clinic, finally, calmly and uneventfully, had her abortion. Four months later, she called me on Christmas Eve to tell me that she was not and never was pro-choice and that we failed to recognize that she was clinically depressed at the time of her abortion. The purpose of her call was to chastise me for not sending her off to the psych unit instead of the procedure room.” (Clinic Administrator, Alberta) “Recently, we had a patient who had given a history of being a ‘pro-life’ activist, but who had decided to have an abortion. She was pleasant to me and our initial discussion was mutually respectful. Later, she told someone on my staff that she thought abortion is murder, that she is a murderer, and that she is murdering her baby. So before doing her procedure, I asked her if she thought abortion is murder — the answer was yes. I asked her if she thought I am a murderer, and if she thought I would be murdering her baby, and she said yes. But murder is a crime, and murderers are executed. Is this a crime? Well, it should be, she said. At that point, she became angry and hostile, and the summary of the conversation was that she regarded me as an abortion-dispensing machine, and how dare I ask her what she thinks. After explaining to her that I do not perform abortions for people who think I am a murderer or people who are angry at me, I declined to provide her with medical care. I do not know whether she found someone else to do her abortion.” (Physician, Colorado) “In 1973, after Roe v. Wade, abortion became legal but had to be performed in a hospital. That of course was changed later. For the first ‘legal abortion day’ I had scheduled five procedures. While scrubbing between cases, I was accosted by the Chief of the OB/Gyn service. He asked me, ‘How many children are you going to kill today?’ My response, out of anger, was a familiar vulgar retort. About three months later, this born-again Christian called me to explain that he was against abortion but his daughter was only a junior in high school and was too young to have a baby and he was also afraid that if she did have a baby she would not want to put it up for adoption. I told him he did not need to explain the situation to me. ‘All I need to know’, I said, ‘is that SHE wants an abortion.’ Two years later I performed a second abortion on her during her college break. She thanked me and pleaded, ‘Please don’t tell my dad, he is still anti-abortion.''''''''” (Physician, Washington State)
有一个在堕胎医生的文章，说其实来堕胎的也有不少pro-life的人，还有一些今天来堕胎，明天有和别的人一起在外面反对堕胎。 心理学角度就是这些人在自己会觉得这种事情不会发生在自己身上，一旦发生了又会觉得自己是一个特例，和别的需要堕胎的女性不一样，会去justify自己的行为，没有同理心。 The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion 这篇文章写得挺好的： https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/ 开头这几个例子都满典型的： In the spring of 2000, I collected the following anecdotes directly from abortion doctors and other clinic staff in North America, Australia, and Europe. The stories are presented in the providers’ own words, with minor editing for grammar, clarity, and brevity. Names have been omitted to protect privacy. “I have done several abortions on women who have regularly picketed my clinics, including a 16 year old schoolgirl who came back to picket the day after her abortion, about three years ago. During her whole stay at the clinic, we felt that she was not quite right, but there were no real warning bells. She insisted that the abortion was her idea and assured us that all was OK. She went through the procedure very smoothly and was discharged with no problems. A quite routine operation. Next morning she was with her mother and several school mates in front of the clinic with the usual anti posters and chants. It appears that she got the abortion she needed and still displayed the appropriate anti views expected of her by her parents, teachers, and peers.” (Physician, Australia) “I’ve had several cases over the years in which the anti-abortion patient had rationalized in one way or another that her case was the only exception, but the one that really made an impression was the college senior who was the president of her campus Right-to-Life organization, meaning that she had worked very hard in that organization for several years. As I was completing her procedure, I asked what she planned to do about her high office in the RTL organization. Her response was a wide-eyed, ‘You’re not going to tell them, are you!?’ When assured that I was not, she breathed a sigh of relief, explaining how important that position was to her and how she wouldn’t want this to interfere with it.” (Physician, Texas) “In 1990, in the Boston area, Operation Rescue and other groups were regularly blockading the clinics, and many of us went every Saturday morning for months to help women and staff get in. As a result, we knew many of the ‘antis’ by face. One morning, a woman who had been a regular ‘sidewalk counselor’ went into the clinic with a young woman who looked like she was 16-17, and obviously her daughter. When the mother came out about an hour later, I had to go up and ask her if her daughter’s situation had caused her to change her mind. ‘I don’t expect you to understand my daughter’s situation!’ she angrily replied. The following Saturday, she was back, pleading with women entering the clinic not to ‘murder their babies.''''''''” (Clinic escort, Massachusetts) “We too have seen our share of anti-choice women, ones the counselors usually grit their teeth over. Just last week a woman announced loudly enough for all to hear in the recovery room, that she thought abortion should be illegal. Amazingly, this was her second abortion within the last few months, having gotten pregnant again within a month of the first abortion. The nurse handled it by talking about all the carnage that went on before abortion was legalized and how fortunate she was to be receiving safe, professional care. However, this young woman continued to insist it was wrong and should be made illegal. Finally the nurse said, ‘Well, I guess we won’t be seeing you here again, not that you’re not welcome.’ Later on, another patient who had overheard this exchange thanked the nurse for her remarks.” (Clinic Administrator, Alberta) “We saw a woman recently who after four attempts and many hours of counseling both at the hospital and our clinic, finally, calmly and uneventfully, had her abortion. Four months later, she called me on Christmas Eve to tell me that she was not and never was pro-choice and that we failed to recognize that she was clinically depressed at the time of her abortion. The purpose of her call was to chastise me for not sending her off to the psych unit instead of the procedure room.” (Clinic Administrator, Alberta) “Recently, we had a patient who had given a history of being a ‘pro-life’ activist, but who had decided to have an abortion. She was pleasant to me and our initial discussion was mutually respectful. Later, she told someone on my staff that she thought abortion is murder, that she is a murderer, and that she is murdering her baby. So before doing her procedure, I asked her if she thought abortion is murder — the answer was yes. I asked her if she thought I am a murderer, and if she thought I would be murdering her baby, and she said yes. But murder is a crime, and murderers are executed. Is this a crime? Well, it should be, she said. At that point, she became angry and hostile, and the summary of the conversation was that she regarded me as an abortion-dispensing machine, and how dare I ask her what she thinks. After explaining to her that I do not perform abortions for people who think I am a murderer or people who are angry at me, I declined to provide her with medical care. I do not know whether she found someone else to do her abortion.” (Physician, Colorado) “In 1973, after Roe v. Wade, abortion became legal but had to be performed in a hospital. That of course was changed later. For the first ‘legal abortion day’ I had scheduled five procedures. While scrubbing between cases, I was accosted by the Chief of the OB/Gyn service. He asked me, ‘How many children are you going to kill today?’ My response, out of anger, was a familiar vulgar retort. About three months later, this born-again Christian called me to explain that he was against abortion but his daughter was only a junior in high school and was too young to have a baby and he was also afraid that if she did have a baby she would not want to put it up for adoption. I told him he did not need to explain the situation to me. ‘All I need to know’, I said, ‘is that SHE wants an abortion.’ Two years later I performed a second abortion on her during her college break. She thanked me and pleaded, ‘Please don’t tell my dad, he is still anti-abortion.''''''''” (Physician, Washington State) babeann 发表于 2022-07-02 12:27
有一个在堕胎医生的文章，说其实来堕胎的也有不少pro-life的人，还有一些今天来堕胎，明天有和别的人一起在外面反对堕胎。 心理学角度就是这些人在自己会觉得这种事情不会发生在自己身上，一旦发生了又会觉得自己是一个特例，和别的需要堕胎的女性不一样，会去justify自己的行为，没有同理心。 The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion 这篇文章写得挺好的： https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/ 开头这几个例子都满典型的： In the spring of 2000, I collected the following anecdotes directly from abortion doctors and other clinic staff in North America, Australia, and Europe. The stories are presented in the providers’ own words, with minor editing for grammar, clarity, and brevity. Names have been omitted to protect privacy. “I have done several abortions on women who have regularly picketed my clinics, including a 16 year old schoolgirl who came back to picket the day after her abortion, about three years ago. During her whole stay at the clinic, we felt that she was not quite right, but there were no real warning bells. She insisted that the abortion was her idea and assured us that all was OK. She went through the procedure very smoothly and was discharged with no problems. A quite routine operation. Next morning she was with her mother and several school mates in front of the clinic with the usual anti posters and chants. It appears that she got the abortion she needed and still displayed the appropriate anti views expected of her by her parents, teachers, and peers.” (Physician, Australia) “I’ve had several cases over the years in which the anti-abortion patient had rationalized in one way or another that her case was the only exception, but the one that really made an impression was the college senior who was the president of her campus Right-to-Life organization, meaning that she had worked very hard in that organization for several years. As I was completing her procedure, I asked what she planned to do about her high office in the RTL organization. Her response was a wide-eyed, ‘You’re not going to tell them, are you!?’ When assured that I was not, she breathed a sigh of relief, explaining how important that position was to her and how she wouldn’t want this to interfere with it.” (Physician, Texas) “In 1990, in the Boston area, Operation Rescue and other groups were regularly blockading the clinics, and many of us went every Saturday morning for months to help women and staff get in. As a result, we knew many of the ‘antis’ by face. One morning, a woman who had been a regular ‘sidewalk counselor’ went into the clinic with a young woman who looked like she was 16-17, and obviously her daughter. When the mother came out about an hour later, I had to go up and ask her if her daughter’s situation had caused her to change her mind. ‘I don’t expect you to understand my daughter’s situation!’ she angrily replied. The following Saturday, she was back, pleading with women entering the clinic not to ‘murder their babies.''''''''” (Clinic escort, Massachusetts) “We too have seen our share of anti-choice women, ones the counselors usually grit their teeth over. Just last week a woman announced loudly enough for all to hear in the recovery room, that she thought abortion should be illegal. Amazingly, this was her second abortion within the last few months, having gotten pregnant again within a month of the first abortion. The nurse handled it by talking about all the carnage that went on before abortion was legalized and how fortunate she was to be receiving safe, professional care. However, this young woman continued to insist it was wrong and should be made illegal. Finally the nurse said, ‘Well, I guess we won’t be seeing you here again, not that you’re not welcome.’ Later on, another patient who had overheard this exchange thanked the nurse for her remarks.” (Clinic Administrator, Alberta) “We saw a woman recently who after four attempts and many hours of counseling both at the hospital and our clinic, finally, calmly and uneventfully, had her abortion. Four months later, she called me on Christmas Eve to tell me that she was not and never was pro-choice and that we failed to recognize that she was clinically depressed at the time of her abortion. The purpose of her call was to chastise me for not sending her off to the psych unit instead of the procedure room.” (Clinic Administrator, Alberta) “Recently, we had a patient who had given a history of being a ‘pro-life’ activist, but who had decided to have an abortion. She was pleasant to me and our initial discussion was mutually respectful. Later, she told someone on my staff that she thought abortion is murder, that she is a murderer, and that she is murdering her baby. So before doing her procedure, I asked her if she thought abortion is murder — the answer was yes. I asked her if she thought I am a murderer, and if she thought I would be murdering her baby, and she said yes. But murder is a crime, and murderers are executed. Is this a crime? Well, it should be, she said. At that point, she became angry and hostile, and the summary of the conversation was that she regarded me as an abortion-dispensing machine, and how dare I ask her what she thinks. After explaining to her that I do not perform abortions for people who think I am a murderer or people who are angry at me, I declined to provide her with medical care. I do not know whether she found someone else to do her abortion.” (Physician, Colorado) “In 1973, after Roe v. Wade, abortion became legal but had to be performed in a hospital. That of course was changed later. For the first ‘legal abortion day’ I had scheduled five procedures. While scrubbing between cases, I was accosted by the Chief of the OB/Gyn service. He asked me, ‘How many children are you going to kill today?’ My response, out of anger, was a familiar vulgar retort. About three months later, this born-again Christian called me to explain that he was against abortion but his daughter was only a junior in high school and was too young to have a baby and he was also afraid that if she did have a baby she would not want to put it up for adoption. I told him he did not need to explain the situation to me. ‘All I need to know’, I said, ‘is that SHE wants an abortion.’ Two years later I performed a second abortion on her during her college break. She thanked me and pleaded, ‘Please don’t tell my dad, he is still anti-abortion.''''''''” (Physician, Washington State) babeann 发表于 2022-07-02 12:27
Thousands call for release of man who shot dead his daughter's rapist Jay Maynor pleaded guilty to save his daughter reliving her experiences He took the decision partly in order to stop his daughter having to relive her abuse experience before the court. Maynor, from the city of Cullman, was sentenced to 40 years in prison Maynor’s daughter, Julia, who is now aged 24, was repeatedly sexually assaulted by Brooks when she was a child. Brooks was her adoptive grandfather “Basically he took it so that I didn’t have to relive the molestation and also be on the stand in front of a bunch of people talking about and bringing back memories of the molestation,” Maynor’s daughter told AL.com when her father was sentenced
回复 1楼lovewriting123的帖子 现在这种到处都是，最后下限能创纪录的只有年龄了 Mississippi House Speaker says a 12-year-old raped and impregnated by father should NOT be allowed to get an abortion because 'life begins at conception' 这些无耻神棍还想全国推广呢
回复 1楼lovewriting123的帖子 现在这种到处都是，最后下限能创纪录的只有年龄了 Mississippi House Speaker says a 12-year-old raped and impregnated by father should NOT be allowed to get an abortion because 'life begins at conception' 这些无耻神棍还想全国推广呢 数量运动 发表于 2022-07-02 13:39
全国推广本来就是目标，目前高院下放到各州，是因为roe v wade的判例阻碍各红州通过各种心跳法律。 现在挡路石没了，下一个目标就是在尽可能多的州通过禁止堕胎法律。
虽然现在堕胎的妇女本身不会被起诉，但是pro-life里的极端人士已经在向这个方向努力了，而且最近还开始有了更多支持者： Inside the Extreme Effort to Punish Women for Abortion https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/01/us/abortion-abolitionists.html 德州的trigger law启动以后，如果把妇女堕胎按照谋杀罪处理，最高可以判99年的，有的州可以判死刑。而且在外州堕胎，如果被发现了也要判。估计去外州堕胎，要做好此生不回红州的打算。
回复 1楼lovewriting123的帖子 现在这种到处都是，最后下限能创纪录的只有年龄了 Mississippi House Speaker says a 12-year-old raped and impregnated by father should NOT be allowed to get an abortion because 'life begins at conception' 这些无耻神棍还想全国推广呢 数量运动 发表于 2022-07-02 13:39
不是吃了有激素的美国食品造成的吗？
美国养鸡场的肉鸡，8-12 周就上市了。我自己养的鸡，16周了，还轻飘飘的，离成熟下蛋还远得很。
因为这个很大概率生不下来，一尸两命。
但是那些神棍大概会说这是神的旨意？我等普通人类只要接受就行，不要尝试理解。
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https://www.youtube.com/embed/Ka_OCiP3wLU?showinfo=0 他们还要推行全国ban
你也想多了，共和党不会给强奸乱伦判死刑的，干这事儿的老白男大概率是和党死忠粉。
不过，他们倒是希望把堕胎医生判死刑，在他们眼里，堕胎是杀人，比起来，强奸乱伦根本不算个事儿。
哦对了，老白男还说，真强奸是不会怀孕的，这个10岁女孩肯定是自己也爽到了，说不定是她主动勾引的呢。。。
多年前pro birth以prolife的名义已经枪杀医生了
有意思的是这些反堕胎的铁杆和党信众中很多也反控枪。
我就很好奇，他们这时候怎么不怕“温水煮青蛙“了？
作死呗！嫌自己死的不快！随便拥枪，还不许流产。
等着一个一个都死在AK-47，AR-15下面吧。
有一个在堕胎医生的文章，说其实来堕胎的也有不少pro-life的人，还有一些今天来堕胎，明天有和别的人一起在外面反对堕胎。
心理学角度就是这些人在自己会觉得这种事情不会发生在自己身上，一旦发生了又会觉得自己是一个特例，和别的需要堕胎的女性不一样，会去justify自己的行为，没有同理心。
The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion 这篇文章写得挺好的： https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/
开头这几个例子都满典型的： In the spring of 2000, I collected the following anecdotes directly from abortion doctors and other clinic staff in North America, Australia, and Europe. The stories are presented in the providers’ own words, with minor editing for grammar, clarity, and brevity. Names have been omitted to protect privacy. “I have done several abortions on women who have regularly picketed my clinics, including a 16 year old schoolgirl who came back to picket the day after her abortion, about three years ago. During her whole stay at the clinic, we felt that she was not quite right, but there were no real warning bells. She insisted that the abortion was her idea and assured us that all was OK. She went through the procedure very smoothly and was discharged with no problems. A quite routine operation. Next morning she was with her mother and several school mates in front of the clinic with the usual anti posters and chants. It appears that she got the abortion she needed and still displayed the appropriate anti views expected of her by her parents, teachers, and peers.” (Physician, Australia)
“I’ve had several cases over the years in which the anti-abortion patient had rationalized in one way or another that her case was the only exception, but the one that really made an impression was the college senior who was the president of her campus Right-to-Life organization, meaning that she had worked very hard in that organization for several years. As I was completing her procedure, I asked what she planned to do about her high office in the RTL organization. Her response was a wide-eyed, ‘You’re not going to tell them, are you!?’ When assured that I was not, she breathed a sigh of relief, explaining how important that position was to her and how she wouldn’t want this to interfere with it.” (Physician, Texas) “In 1990, in the Boston area, Operation Rescue and other groups were regularly blockading the clinics, and many of us went every Saturday morning for months to help women and staff get in. As a result, we knew many of the ‘antis’ by face. One morning, a woman who had been a regular ‘sidewalk counselor’ went into the clinic with a young woman who looked like she was 16-17, and obviously her daughter. When the mother came out about an hour later, I had to go up and ask her if her daughter’s situation had caused her to change her mind. ‘I don’t expect you to understand my daughter’s situation!’ she angrily replied. The following Saturday, she was back, pleading with women entering the clinic not to ‘murder their babies.''''''''” (Clinic escort, Massachusetts)
“We too have seen our share of anti-choice women, ones the counselors usually grit their teeth over. Just last week a woman announced loudly enough for all to hear in the recovery room, that she thought abortion should be illegal. Amazingly, this was her second abortion within the last few months, having gotten pregnant again within a month of the first abortion. The nurse handled it by talking about all the carnage that went on before abortion was legalized and how fortunate she was to be receiving safe, professional care. However, this young woman continued to insist it was wrong and should be made illegal. Finally the nurse said, ‘Well, I guess we won’t be seeing you here again, not that you’re not welcome.’ Later on, another patient who had overheard this exchange thanked the nurse for her remarks.” (Clinic Administrator, Alberta)
“We saw a woman recently who after four attempts and many hours of counseling both at the hospital and our clinic, finally, calmly and uneventfully, had her abortion. Four months later, she called me on Christmas Eve to tell me that she was not and never was pro-choice and that we failed to recognize that she was clinically depressed at the time of her abortion. The purpose of her call was to chastise me for not sending her off to the psych unit instead of the procedure room.” (Clinic Administrator, Alberta) “Recently, we had a patient who had given a history of being a ‘pro-life’ activist, but who had decided to have an abortion. She was pleasant to me and our initial discussion was mutually respectful. Later, she told someone on my staff that she thought abortion is murder, that she is a murderer, and that she is murdering her baby. So before doing her procedure, I asked her if she thought abortion is murder — the answer was yes. I asked her if she thought I am a murderer, and if she thought I would be murdering her baby, and she said yes. But murder is a crime, and murderers are executed. Is this a crime? Well, it should be, she said. At that point, she became angry and hostile, and the summary of the conversation was that she regarded me as an abortion-dispensing machine, and how dare I ask her what she thinks. After explaining to her that I do not perform abortions for people who think I am a murderer or people who are angry at me, I declined to provide her with medical care. I do not know whether she found someone else to do her abortion.” (Physician, Colorado) “In 1973, after Roe v. Wade, abortion became legal but had to be performed in a hospital. That of course was changed later. For the first ‘legal abortion day’ I had scheduled five procedures. While scrubbing between cases, I was accosted by the Chief of the OB/Gyn service. He asked me, ‘How many children are you going to kill today?’ My response, out of anger, was a familiar vulgar retort. About three months later, this born-again Christian called me to explain that he was against abortion but his daughter was only a junior in high school and was too young to have a baby and he was also afraid that if she did have a baby she would not want to put it up for adoption. I told him he did not need to explain the situation to me. ‘All I need to know’, I said, ‘is that SHE wants an abortion.’ Two years later I performed a second abortion on her during her college break. She thanked me and pleaded, ‘Please don’t tell my dad, he is still anti-abortion.''''''''” (Physician, Washington State)
ivanka trump？
Ohio目前就是共和党操控啊 你不去问问他们强制10岁的受害者生子 为什么不给强奸犯死刑
川粉里一把这种人
德州一年14000记录在案的强奸案，1400万德州女性按80岁算，一生总共有1/8的概率遭遇记录在案的强奸，没有记录的肯定还更多。蓝州比如加州好些，但也是差不多1/10 吧。在美国强奸乱伦非常常见，一刀切会影响很多人的。
我去，对啊，还在花我们的钱，我的税钱能不能送他去死刑啊妈的！
Thousands call for release of man who shot dead his daughter's rapist Jay Maynor pleaded guilty to save his daughter reliving her experiences He took the decision partly in order to stop his daughter having to relive her abuse experience before the court. Maynor, from the city of Cullman, was sentenced to 40 years in prison
Maynor’s daughter, Julia, who is now aged 24, was repeatedly sexually assaulted by Brooks when she was a child. Brooks was her adoptive grandfather “Basically he took it so that I didn’t have to relive the molestation and also be on the stand in front of a bunch of people talking about and bringing back memories of the molestation,” Maynor’s daughter told AL.com when her father was sentenced
你那是品种不同
你没弄懂问题的核心。
问题的核心不在于人均脑残程度，而在于脑残群体对政策有多大的影响力。maybe，美国的脑残比例跟欧洲比差不多（即使这个也是存疑的，毕竟，没有一个欧洲国家，会在女性堕胎权上有任何本质性的不同），but，美国的州权，给予了在深红州处于多数的脑残们极大的政治权利，他们利用手中的选票，去选择那些政治动物，为自己的脑残理念站台、立法。
你喷大法官是没有太多道理的，司法系统不负责立法，只负责公正地implement议员们approve的法律。罪魁祸首肯定是那些选票奴隶 - - 不知廉耻、没有基本价值观的议员。
大法官负责“公正”地implement 法律，这是三权分立的本意，如果一切都完美，那么是不会出现今天这个局面的。但是大法官“公正”了吗？他们的投票结果是受政治倾向影响的，已经compromise 三权分立了。司法和立法现在已经失去了互相制衡的功能，这是问题的根本。议员的本性就是人的本性，肯定是贪婪的，只能靠制度去约束，制度不行了自然出问题。
这些人就应该被拒绝流产服务，让她们自己生去
川粉们自己现在也打不了胎了，呵呵。能不能立法让这些pro birth者不得流窜去蓝州打胎？
现在这种到处都是，最后下限能创纪录的只有年龄了
Mississippi House Speaker says a 12-year-old raped and impregnated by father should NOT be allowed to get an abortion because 'life begins at conception'
这些无耻神棍还想全国推广呢
堕胎的孕妇不会被起诉
The Indiana legislature has a special session late July to basically vote on an about ban
ohio大农村的红博不要太多。
死了之后GOP的政客会告诉你要respect god's will....我可去他妈的吧
问题是好多川粉本身就住在蓝州…
请提供Arkansas abortion law法律原文
生下来确实是可以弃养的。合法
所有 probirth的上ban list，任何医院不得向其提供打胎服务
你一定没有看完全部的英文。
神棍:每个生命都有生下来的权利
哇塞，就差没明确说株连九族了。杀光杀光全部杀光
美国太伟大，德州太伟大，右右太伟大了
看不懂英文？堕胎的孕妇在德州不会被起诉。
GOP那帮人为了选票和神棍们勾结，祸害美国人，很多神棍神婆也成了众议员
真的是！一个强奸犯把一个孩子的一生都给毁了！
外州医生如果不小心进入德州会被他给德州人跨州做过的Abortion起诉
哇赛，好伟大，没有斩尽杀绝，还留了一个活口．．．
号召弃养。参见你楼上。
全国推广本来就是目标，目前高院下放到各州，是因为roe v wade的判例阻碍各红州通过各种心跳法律。 现在挡路石没了，下一个目标就是在尽可能多的州通过禁止堕胎法律。
辟个谣而已。那么激动干嘛。
所以怪这个女孩被长期性侵也没避孕意识？
因为不能拖延，高院不一定接受，未必有钱，等等，原因多了.
川川下台好几年了，再推黑锅给他就搞笑了😂
呵呵，可不是咋地，遇到这样的事很难不激动。不象层主冷静观望半天可算是逮着一个“辟谣“的机会。
实际上很难操作。除非亲朋好友泄漏了隐私。即使如此，德州政府也很难拿到证据。当然不是完全不可能。
我讨厌谣言，虽然我反对高院的决定
少装假装理中客。让妇女孤立无援很有理是吧？让她们得不到帮助，逼她们用衣架自行堕胎很正义是吧？别人激动因为他们有人性，你不激动的理由是？
那我误解你了。握手🤝
大法官是他任命的，不是他的锅谁的锅？ 金鱼记忆吗？
叫"anti-abortion"。
“pro-life"是他们自己给自己取的假惺惺的名字。
锅就是他的。你还洗？
所以”pro-life”在引号里，实际是pro forced birth
你可以看看他在其他堕胎帖子的发言再决定这个手握不握，
这贴里装理中客法律专家的，质疑小孩为什么不早告诉家长，质疑小孩这个年纪能不能怀孕的，装傻但实际上是真坏的可能接近100%
管他的，统一战线，冤家宜解不宜结，能争取一个是一个。既然他自己说反对高院判决就权且信他。：）
跟那种人握手，手会脏的，小心 正常人这时候不会出来帮他们洗，还“辟谣”呢
你说得是对的，但又怎么样呢？ 那个10岁被强奸的小女孩，如果在德州，去外州堕胎，的确不会被起诉，但带她去外州的父母就会被起诉。德州法律把孕妇周围能帮助她的人都解决了，就留着她一个，还美其名曰没有赶尽杀绝吗？
不是他的锅谁的锅？三个法官是他塞进去的
川普还不像一般的共和党，会有一点点decency，会考虑候选人是否真的适合那个席位。川普选人举亲不举贤，只要是听话的狗，管他是不是白痴疯子都能上。
明明是pro birth，anti life
一个scenario， 如果联邦在红州的联邦土地上开设堕胎诊所会如何？ 按照法律完全没问题。 当年的内战就是这样打响的～～ 不过拜登政府已经怂了，警告说这样会有很危险的后果。
Inside the Extreme Effort to Punish Women for Abortion https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/01/us/abortion-abolitionists.html
德州的trigger law启动以后，如果把妇女堕胎按照谋杀罪处理，最高可以判99年的，有的州可以判死刑。而且在外州堕胎，如果被发现了也要判。估计去外州堕胎，要做好此生不回红州的打算。
哪怕这么做，也是象征性的。像德州的把任何帮助堕胎的人，包括开车送老婆去堕胎的丈夫，一律起诉的话，哪怕在联邦的土地上开堕胎诊所也没用。这和去邻州堕胎是一样的。何况，德州的现有法律是心跳法吧，那还说Roe被推翻之前。现在那帮家伙肯定要变本加厉。
NND，谁组织去他们家附近游行，我报名！
小心他们叫你antifa，说你威胁大法官
"life begins at conception" 话那Plan B这种药也要禁了。
再深入讨论一下， prevent 生命发生是不是也是个罪呢？ 怪不得托马斯大法官说避孕的权利没有在宪法上规定，所以各州你们自己看着办吧。 真是疯了。
别，违法的。最高法的Marshall以及移文各州州长要求取缔了。
走正常程序申请的游行，还不行了？GOP 需要mind their own bushiness。
每次报税，我家ZT都说要投GOP的票。我说你随便，我为了自己是女的，死也不投GOP，never。
同意。各州都有自己的rally，还是参加local的比较好，也比较有效。
这也被他们搞成违法了？坏人心虚！
一个月够有勇气告诉父母了吧？明明可以靠验孕棒查出是否怀孕的。
验出怀孕又怎么样？这女孩儿就是离上次月经6星期3天。
法官不是个人！
你连基本常识都没有？ 一个月以后再验孕都怀孕6-8周了，打个p胎
病的不轻 你觉得10岁的女孩自己应该知道用验孕棒吗？
你十岁的时候能做到吗
你就说这个案例，10岁小女孩儿被强奸怀孕，是不是应该生！生孩子死了谁负责？！她做错了什么，要让她10岁时生娃？！
别扯其他州。不关心你投谁的票！