死亡率 = 染病毒死亡人数/ 染病毒人数 在夏威夷，亚裔是主体 New research sheds light on the link between fatality rates HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) - While COVID cases are declining in Hawaii, the death rate is climbing. And new research is shedding light on who is at highest risk. Throughout the pandemic, experts have talked about age and preexisting conditions being major factors in a patient’s outcome. But epidemiologist DeWolfe Miller has found race also plays a big role. He said data compiled from March 2020 found that if you’re hospitalized with COVID in Hawaii, your overall risk of succumbing to the virus is 27%. But when you break it down by race, Miller said, “The highest is 53%. It’s in the Japanese and Asians. The lowest is in the whites and Native Hawaiians.” To date, white people hospitalized with COVID in Hawaii have fared the best ― with an 18% chance of dying. For Native Hawaiians, that risk stands at 21%. Outcomes are worse for Pacific Islanders, Filipinos and people of Japanese descent. The analysis comes as Hawaii sees COVID deaths rising even as cases fall. Fatalities are considered a lagging indicator of a surge ― first cases go up, then hospitalizations and lastly, deaths. “These surges follow a predictable pattern,” said Hilton Raethel, the head of the Healthcare Association of Hawaii. “Unfortunately over the last seven days we’ve had an average of between six and seven deaths a day. It’s an inevitable consequence after having had so many infections.” https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/02/08/new-research-sheds-light-who-is-highest-risk-dying-covid-hawaii/
死亡率 = 染病毒死亡人数/ 染病毒人数 在夏威夷，亚裔是主体 New research sheds light on the link between fatality rates HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) - While COVID cases are declining in Hawaii, the death rate is climbing. And new research is shedding light on who is at highest risk. Throughout the pandemic, experts have talked about age and preexisting conditions being major factors in a patient’s outcome. But epidemiologist DeWolfe Miller has found race also plays a big role. He said data compiled from March 2020 found that if you’re hospitalized with COVID in Hawaii, your overall risk of succumbing to the virus is 27%. But when you break it down by race, Miller said, “The highest is 53%. It’s in the Japanese and Asians. The lowest is in the whites and Native Hawaiians.” To date, white people hospitalized with COVID in Hawaii have fared the best ― with an 18% chance of dying. For Native Hawaiians, that risk stands at 21%. Outcomes are worse for Pacific Islanders, Filipinos and people of Japanese descent. The analysis comes as Hawaii sees COVID deaths rising even as cases fall. Fatalities are considered a lagging indicator of a surge ― first cases go up, then hospitalizations and lastly, deaths. “These surges follow a predictable pattern,” said Hilton Raethel, the head of the Healthcare Association of Hawaii. “Unfortunately over the last seven days we’ve had an average of between six and seven deaths a day. It’s an inevitable consequence after having had so many infections.” https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/02/08/new-research-sheds-light-who-is-highest-risk-dying-covid-hawaii/ raindrop2020 发表于 2022-02-08 16:34
在夏威夷，亚裔是主体
New research sheds light on the link between fatality rates HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) - While COVID cases are declining in Hawaii, the death rate is climbing. And new research is shedding light on who is at highest risk. Throughout the pandemic, experts have talked about age and preexisting conditions being major factors in a patient’s outcome. But epidemiologist DeWolfe Miller has found race also plays a big role. He said data compiled from March 2020 found that if you’re hospitalized with COVID in Hawaii, your overall risk of succumbing to the virus is 27%. But when you break it down by race, Miller said, “The highest is 53%. It’s in the Japanese and Asians. The lowest is in the whites and Native Hawaiians.” To date, white people hospitalized with COVID in Hawaii have fared the best ― with an 18% chance of dying. For Native Hawaiians, that risk stands at 21%. Outcomes are worse for Pacific Islanders, Filipinos and people of Japanese descent. The analysis comes as Hawaii sees COVID deaths rising even as cases fall. Fatalities are considered a lagging indicator of a surge ― first cases go up, then hospitalizations and lastly, deaths. “These surges follow a predictable pattern,” said Hilton Raethel, the head of the Healthcare Association of Hawaii. “Unfortunately over the last seven days we’ve had an average of between six and seven deaths a day. It’s an inevitable consequence after having had so many infections.” https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/02/08/new-research-sheds-light-who-is-highest-risk-dying-covid-hawaii/
啥叫被死亡。 这个病毒对东亚裔危害更大。
进医院被死亡，懂的自然懂。
这是夏威夷的数据。在夏威夷，亚裔是主体。
你分得清什么是死亡率和死亡绝对人数吗？
为什么？人口多和死亡率没关系啊，人口多得的也多啊，又不是说死亡人数
我们的数据，非白，黑，拉丁，占人口 19%， 死亡占 ～6%，
good point，可能在夏威夷的日本人多半是去养老的。。。
这句话完全没逻辑。。。
我记得疫情头半年加州的数字也是亚裔感染率低，但是感染的亚裔死亡率高于别的族裔。当时还没有疫苗。感染率低可能跟特别谨慎和工作性质有关。
这都是州卫生部每日数据
美军投毒实锤了？威尔逊爱德华兹博士要出来说两句
传染率和楼主说的致死率完全两码事啊
中国为什么严防死守当战争来打。因为知道这个病毒当初就是拿来对付黄种人的。当初欧洲高层政客公开说了的。
中国因为不敢肯定这个病毒，或者说它的所谓解药，是不是屠灭黄种人的混毒的第一步，所以只能用隔离大法了😎😎😎
这么高的死亡率可见住院的门槛有多高，这就是美国医疗系统永不崩溃的原因，打发回家自生自灭。很多人如果能及早收治是能活下来的。
以后日子久了，还会有人说这个，文革现在都有人翻案，不要说COVID了。
美国老百姓很少有刁民，被打发回家自生自灭的，也没什么医闹。
哇！！！ 我几个月前自己做过一点数据分析， 就拿洛杉矶县的covid dashboard 公布的数据。 当时也是显示亚裔的阳性率低，（猜想亚裔比较小心谨慎） 但是这些阳性病人里亚裔的死亡率比其他族裔偏高的结论。 但是远远没有夏威夷数据这么明显， 夏威夷这个数据也太恐怖了一点。
我刚刚才不是很相信楼主的贴子， 所以特地上了夏威夷的官方网站看它的数据， 没想到竟然是真的。
https://health.hawaii.gov/coronavirusdisease2019/current-situation-in-hawaii/ 点 race/ethnic data 这个 tab
我国内有同学曾经说过美军投毒， 为此我翻了脸。。。现在。。。
看了看当地数据，貌似 Covid 对亚裔的危害更大, 大家看看有没有道理 记得去年三番有个新闻报道， 说亚裔的新冠死亡率高。好像当时说的是三番中国城老人英文不好， 弱势群体， 所以信息和救助跟不上。
今天我因为和朋友讨论，究竟新冠疫情对不同族裔的影响有什么不同。 平时我们都看到媒体宣传贫穷的人群（非裔和拉丁裔）容易感染新冠。 但是没有讲亚裔的情况， 一般就说亚裔和白人的感染率差不多低。 我今天用了洛杉矶县的数据做了个粗浅的分析。数据来源是洛杉矶县卫生部门的公开数据。 http://dashboard.publichealth.lacounty.gov/covid19_surveillance_dashboard/
Race Population Death # of Cases Death Rate Asian 1,395,605 3,179 58,925 5.4% Black 789,202 1,956 53,612 3.6% Latino 4,758,809 12,539 650,126 1.9% White 2,666,559 5,378 141,006 3.8%
发现亚裔的死亡率明显比其他族裔高不少。 同学们帮看看， 我漏看了什么没有？为什么没有人提这一茬？
亚裔里最高确诊与死亡率是 Philippinos, 是否因为philipinos 在healthcare特别是护理行业里人数特别多？
那是日本的日本人，在美国的医院的亚裔是另一个问题。
既然是要看比例，分母分子都应该分析。我在收音机上听到过，第一波的时候，三藩纽约等地中国城很多人语言不通，以为测试很贵，哪怕有症状也不敢去测。生活中也认识一些华人因为太怕这个病毒，讳疾忌医，不严重就不去测，这些因素其实也都会导致分母有偏差。
楼主发的数据倒是不一样，是入院的死亡率，主要问题就是没有年龄的信息所以不好下结论race是不是最大的因素了。
是概念不同，分母不一样。楼主的数据里面分母是住院人数。其它的数据要么是居民总人数，要么是感染人数。因为分母不同，所以数据不同，结论就会有所不一样。
这是神逻辑
你这个说法有根据吗？
首先要注意夏威夷的几个wave和美国本土很不一样，整个2020年由于严防死守都没有多少case/death，所以他们的数据主要集中在2021年秋天的delta wave和最近一段时间的omicron wave，这个时候疫苗已经非常普及了。另外亚裔普遍比较谨慎，有疫苗之前得新冠的比例应该更低。
其次是疫苗率，夏威夷两针疫苗率高达76%，高于本土的大部分州，亚裔的疫苗率更高，可以说这个州有高危因素的亚裔几乎人人打过疫苗。
所以说夏威夷整个疫情期间住院的亚裔有可能大部分是打过疫苗的，而打过疫苗还会因为新冠住院的这个条件本身就筛选出了一批免疫力最差身体最不好的人群，比如前一段去世的Colin Powell这样的，这样的人死亡率当然很高。
事实上fully vaccinated之后因为新冠住院的这批人死亡率一直很高，因为这其实是一个比较特殊的人群，免疫系统已经差到连疫苗都完全不管用了。
最后，如果看整体死亡率的话，夏威夷的新冠死亡率是每十万人里面87人死于新冠，全美最低，是死亡率最高的州（密西西比）的四分之一。
是呀！年龄跟COVID 预后太相关了，big confounder
为什么白人没有巨老巨老的老人家？ 只有亚洲人有，不就说明没病毒的话，巨老的亚裔老人家本身就是基因好，跟不老的白人原来就是在一个LEVEL上的，都是还能活很多年吗。
论BIAS, 只看年龄，不看保护 ，不看身体状况，不是更BIAS吗？
谢谢浣熊美眉的解读! 很有道理~