我们这nextdoor 上有一个妈妈哀悼自己死于covid并发症的儿子

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xiaohetiao
237 楼
sinus infection是covid引起的啊!搅浑水很high是吗
木牛流马 发表于 2021-10-04 23:21

新冠病毒不会引起sinus infection, 但是也许因为新冠导致免疫系统被compromise,sinus infection乘虚而入了
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juliejulieFan
236 楼
很痛心,RIP
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beautifulmindd
235 楼
因为Ivermectin是给马吃的,给狗吃的,给猫吃的,杀heartworm的。你的医生敢给你开这个药你就发了,赔死他。
剪秋萝碎米荠 发表于 2021-10-05 14:41

伊维菌素是我们小时候吃过的打虫药宝塔糖,你吃过的。你准备把你自己归类成上面你说的马,狗,猫,heartworm中的哪一类?
六合彩
234 楼
大家应该把抗生素提前准备好。明天准备去药房拿抗生素
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k.hao
233 楼
Very sad, RIP

 

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距离拥抱被
代入母亲的角度,我在读完之后简直几近崩溃 现在还觉得手脚冰凉,心口疼

我发出来在华人上是觉得 但凡有所触动,也是好的 真的 放弃各种宏大叙事 请大家看看这个母亲的话吧



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silenceyh
Rip 不过那些反疫苗的人看不到的
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Sisyphus
Very sad, RIP
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littlefish99
心如刀绞也就是这样的感觉吧
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hongxx
可怜
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kingcythia
看哭了
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QQQ1000
唉,心碎💔,孩子拖着,做父母的暑假也可以拖着孩子去打一下疫苗呀。难以想象做父母的后悔与悲痛
愉快灌水
不知道如果打了疫苗能不能救他一命
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silenceyh
唉,心碎💔,孩子拖着,做父母的暑假也可以拖着孩子去打一下疫苗呀。难以想象做父母的后悔与悲痛
QQQ1000 发表于 2021-10-04 22:16

强制疫苗和个人选择的区别 政府不强制 父母也没办法强制自己的子女去啊
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silenceyh
不知道如果打了疫苗能不能救他一命
愉快灌水 发表于 2021-10-04 22:18

也许他能活下来 也许他还会死去 但他没有再来一次的机会了
天天周末
😥真难过。
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evachuyi0426
看了心都碎了!😭😭
九久
向捐献器官的小伙子致敬,RIP
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QQQ1000
强制疫苗和个人选择的区别 政府不强制 父母也没办法强制自己的子女去啊
silenceyh 发表于 2021-10-04 22:19

孩子死了父母伤心,政府又不伤心,为啥非要政府强制?只能自己做对自己有利的选择
尜尕
RIP 有个疑问:COVID是痊愈了吗? 不然器官还能移植给别人吗?
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bye2020
虽然不该可有点担心这些器官。
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umizumi
It’s all over the news. 看新闻,是covid已经阴性了以后才出现了sinus infection,最后发展成了脑炎。完全不是covid的死法,但是却算成covid死,到死都是covid阴性,所以器官都能用吧。换成打了疫苗,再死于脑炎,那就是肯定跟疫苗没关系的了。
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leaves0202
读完心痛得没法呼吸。RIP
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dingdang8467
回复 3楼silenceyh的帖子
早说了,如果自己打了疫苗宣扬反疫苗死全家
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silenceyh
回复 3楼silenceyh的帖子
早说了,如果自己打了疫苗宣扬反疫苗死全家
dingdang8467 发表于 2021-10-04 22:40

德州州长强烈不同意
南开阿飞
It’s all over the news. 看新闻,是covid已经阴性了以后才出现了sinus infection,最后发展成了脑炎。完全不是covid的死法,但是却算成covid死,到死都是covid阴性,所以器官都能用吧。换成打了疫苗,再死于脑炎,那就是肯定跟疫苗没关系的了。
umizumi 发表于 2021-10-04 22:34

没用的,还是有很多人会脑补为新冠引起的并发症。。。
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helloterran3

距离拥抱被 发表于 2021-10-04 22:09

新冠死者的器官也能用来移植么?
总觉得这个code不对。
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lotusever
Rip 不过那些反疫苗的人看不到的
silenceyh 发表于 2021-10-04 22:11

反疫苗的看到的是打完疫苗就死掉或者致残的故事
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umizumi
反疫苗的看到的是打完疫苗就死掉或者致残的故事
lotusever 发表于 2021-10-04 22:44

这些也是喜欢强制疫苗的人看不到的,没办法。
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helloterran3
没用的,还是有很多人会脑补为新冠引起的并发症。。。
南开阿飞 发表于 2021-10-04 22:43

胡扯什么。美国根本没有反复测试新冠康复患者的流程。都是症状消失以后3-7天默认你已经全好了
Outback steak的founder因为新冠后遗症自杀的,死的时候肯定也是你所谓的“阴性”。
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hubaobao80
It’s all over the news. 看新闻,是covid已经阴性了以后才出现了sinus infection,最后发展成了脑炎。完全不是covid的死法,但是却算成covid死,到死都是covid阴性,所以器官都能用吧。换成打了疫苗,再死于脑炎,那就是肯定跟疫苗没关系的了。
umizumi 发表于 2021-10-04 22:34

这么活跃的川粉又窜出来了啊… 到底忽悠多少人害多少人你们才罢休呢?
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baobaoguaiguai
It’s all over the news. 看新闻,是covid已经阴性了以后才出现了sinus infection,最后发展成了脑炎。完全不是covid的死法,但是却算成covid死,到死都是covid阴性,所以器官都能用吧。换成打了疫苗,再死于脑炎,那就是肯定跟疫苗没关系的了。
umizumi 发表于 2021-10-04 22:34

人家的妈妈都说了是怎么回事,反倒不如你了解细节是吧?有人因为你的阴暗言论不打疫苗出事了怎么办?你自己不打随便,想想后果别瞎说给自己积点阴德。
心碎💔 希望他安息
梦境行者
读完想哭。。。。
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hubaobao80

距离拥抱被 发表于 2021-10-04 22:09

不知道这个妈妈是用了多大的勇气才发出这个帖子的。希望看到的人能被警醒。那些不惜一切机会搅浑水的能滚多远就管多远,太亵渎死者和他妈妈了。
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barbaraa
好惨,希望安息
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sunnywill
RIP 有个疑问:COVID是痊愈了吗? 不然器官还能移植给别人吗?
尜尕 发表于 2021-10-04 22:24

之前的结论是病毒会潜伏的,和shingle水痘类似,在人免疫力低的时候会攻击其他器官,甚至导致long covid。不知道目前最新的研究有没有什么变化
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ConnieBear
这南边大学也不强制打。其实也不是很南边啊
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surge
It’s all over the news. 看新闻,是covid已经阴性了以后才出现了sinus infection,最后发展成了脑炎。完全不是covid的死法,但是却算成covid死,到死都是covid阴性,所以器官都能用吧。换成打了疫苗,再死于脑炎,那就是肯定跟疫苗没关系的了。
umizumi 发表于 2021-10-04 22:34

测试阴性了就天下大吉了? 新冠造成的症状还在,包括infection, 最后导致死亡。这有什么难以理解的?

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sunnywill
这南边大学也不强制打。其实也不是很南边啊
ConnieBear 发表于 2021-10-04 23:02

现在好多大学都是强制打得,虽然年轻人重症死亡率低,但是学校人口密度大传播快,还有年纪大的老师工作人员。这个学校不知道为啥没强制,北卡的学校,唉
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dailymail
Maddie, then 12 years old, received the first dose of experimental Pfizer mRNA in late December 2020. The second dose came on January 20, 2021. She was a clinical trial participant for Pfizer experiments on 12 to 15-year-olds at Cincinnati Children’s Hospital in a division aptly named the Gamble Vaccine Research Center. Stephanie’s bet on “science” cost young Maddie any semblance of a normal future. Maddie’s 2021 perpetual nightmare The healthy, jovial, normal, TikTok-using tween immediately knew her life was different after the second injection. She felt pain in her arm almost immediately. That was followed by severe heart and abdominal pain. The laundry list of symptoms greatly and quickly expanded thereafter: heavy menstrual cycles, fainting, loss of bladder control, changes in vision, etc. Sometimes her bladder and bowels don’t release waste at all, prompting doctors to insert catheter tubes. She’s had nine emergency room visits since January and has spent over two months total in hospitals. Maddie is now paralyzed from the waist down. She has great difficulty swallowing food and water. Even when she is able to swallow food, it typically comes right back up. Thus Maddie needs a wheelchair or walker to get around, and a feeding tube for nourishment. At one point, Maddiie was having 20 or more blackout/fainting episodes per day. Most of the foregoing symptoms persist today. But give Maddie credit. She still has that normal “little girl” personality as she cracked smiles and seemed awestruck by all the cameras and attention around her during the presser (or she could be hopped up on pain killers). https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19vaccine/93643
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sugarbabylove
不懂你们疫苗的争论,但是白发人送黑发人真的很心痛。
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dailymail
CDC investigating after healthy Michigan 13-year-old boy dies 3 days after receiving second Pfizer vaccine The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is investigating the death of a 13-year-old boy three days after he received the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine. While there is as yet no established connection, the boy, Jacob Clynick, had no underlying health conditions when he died in his sleep shortly after his second shot, his aunt told the Detroit Free Press. https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-covid-cdc-investigating-michigan-boy-dies-2nd-pfizer-vaccine-20210705-k6gggiyjabfd5nl6vnvcnb5nvi-story.html
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shanshanshan
最后几句话看哭了 居然还有人在这个帖子里反疫苗,还是人吗?
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dezhouren
It’s all over the news. 看新闻,是covid已经阴性了以后才出现了sinus infection,最后发展成了脑炎。完全不是covid的死法,但是却算成covid死,到死都是covid阴性,所以器官都能用吧。换成打了疫苗,再死于脑炎,那就是肯定跟疫苗没关系的了。
umizumi 发表于 2021-10-04 22:34

再好好读一下新闻,说的好像只有你懂英文私的。
流感引起肺炎然后死了,你说死因和流感无关?
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/09/30/tync-s30.html 20-year-old North Carolina college student dies from COVID-19
But he never got a chance. Gilreath tested positive for COVID-19 on August 20, two days after moving into his dorm at the university, his mother told the News and Observer. For three weeks, Gilreath was “extremely sick,” running a 102-degree fever, vomiting, and experiencing other major symptoms. By September 7, Gilreath tested negative for the coronavirus, and his fever and other symptoms had mostly abated. However, he still suffered from headaches and lethargy.
After going to the doctor’s office, Gilreath discovered that he had a sinus infection. In the days before he could get a prescription for antibiotics filled, the infection had combined with a staph infection and started to move toward his brain, Demello said.
On the night of September 20, Gilreath told his mother he was feeling significant weakness on the right side of his body, as if he was losing control of it. His roommates took him to the emergency room around 10 p.m. and by 1:30 a.m. surgeons had to create an opening in his skull to drain excess fluid and reduce swelling in his brain. Demello drove down to Wilmington, and Gilreath’s father drove from Ohio. Doctors told them the sinus infection had gone to their son’s brain, and had ruptured.
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umizumi
人家的妈妈都说了是怎么回事,反倒不如你了解细节是吧?有人因为你的阴暗言论不打疫苗出事了怎么办?你自己不打随便,想想后果别瞎说给自己积点阴德。
baobaoguaiguai 发表于 2021-10-04 22:49

引用主煤新闻: “Over the three weeks after Gilreath tested positive for COVID-19, he was “extremely sick,” his mother said, running a 102 degree fever and experiencing nausea and other symptoms. Around Sept. 7, his fever and other major symptoms had mostly abated, and he had tested negative for the coronavirus.
Still, he had headaches, and his feelings of lethargy seemed to be “leftover effects of COVID,” she said. When he went to the doctor’s office, however, Gilreath found out he had a sinus infection. It was a few days before he could get a prescription for oral antibiotics filled and start taking the medicine. By that point, the infection had combined with a staph infection and had started to move toward his brain, Demello said.“
看到没,先是covid已经好了,阴性了。
然后,sinus infection then staph infection,葡萄球菌感染,不知道为啥没有及时拿到抗生素,最后死于细菌性脑炎!







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dailymail
Hospital blamed over women’s death from heart inflammation after vaccination The family of a young Israeli woman who died of heart inflammation after being vaccinated against COVID-19 has blamed the hospital where she was treated for her death. Shirel Hilel, 22, received her second vaccine dose two weeks ago, her sister Nofar told Channel 13 news, in a segment aired Thursday evening. She later reported feeling unwell and said she was experiencing muscle pain. “I told her, ‘take [a pain killer]. No help? Tomorrow go to the doctor,'” Nofar said. However, Hilel’s condition worsened and she began to have difficulty breathing and pains in her chest and was taken to Safed’s Ziv Medical Center. At the hospital, Hilel was diagnosed with myocarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle, which boyfriend Eyal said the doctor compared to a swollen shoulder According to the network, there have been other cases of myocarditis among Israelis who received both vaccine shots, but all had been successfully treated, including patients in more serious condition than Hilel. Hilel was eventually taken to the cardiac care unit, where her family asserted she was not sufficiently watched over by hospital staff. “I looked at the monitor, I saw the breaths. The monitor was beeping and no one approached,” Nofar Hilel said. Two days later, she said, her sister collapsed. https://www.timesofisrael.com/hospital-blamed-over-womens-death-from-heart-inflammation-after-vaccination/








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dailymail
首先RIP死者。 然后给你们想要的个例。谢谢。
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sunnywill
回复 3楼silenceyh的帖子
早说了,如果自己打了疫苗宣扬反疫苗死全家
dingdang8467 发表于 2021-10-04 22:40

还有那种自己在兰州捂的严严实实的,但拼命忽悠其他红州口罩自由的。都是一个路数
木牛流马
引用主煤新闻: “Over the three weeks after Gilreath tested positive for COVID-19, he was “extremely sick,” his mother said, running a 102 degree fever and experiencing nausea and other symptoms. Around Sept. 7, his fever and other major symptoms had mostly abated, and he had tested negative for the coronavirus.
Still, he had headaches, and his feelings of lethargy seemed to be “leftover effects of COVID,” she said. When he went to the doctor’s office, however, Gilreath found out he had a sinus infection. It was a few days before he could get a prescription for oral antibiotics filled and start taking the medicine. By that point, the infection had combined with a staph infection and had started to move toward his brain, Demello said.“
看到没,先是covid已经好了,阴性了。
然后,sinus infection then staph infection,葡萄球菌感染,不知道为啥没有及时拿到抗生素,最后死于细菌性脑炎!








umizumi 发表于 2021-10-04 23:17

sinus infection是covid引起的啊!搅浑水很high是吗
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umizumi
再好好读一下新闻,说的好像只有你懂英文私的。
流感引起肺炎然后死了,你说死因和流感无关?
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/09/30/tync-s30.html 20-year-old North Carolina college student dies from COVID-19
But he never got a chance. Gilreath tested positive for COVID-19 on August 20, two days after moving into his dorm at the university, his mother told the News and Observer. For three weeks, Gilreath was “extremely sick,” running a 102-degree fever, vomiting, and experiencing other major symptoms. By September 7, Gilreath tested negative for the coronavirus, and his fever and other symptoms had mostly abated. However, he still suffered from headaches and lethargy.
After going to the doctor’s office, Gilreath discovered that he had a sinus infection. In the days before he could get a prescription for antibiotics filled, the infection had combined with a staph infection and started to move toward his brain, Demello said.
On the night of September 20, Gilreath told his mother he was feeling significant weakness on the right side of his body, as if he was losing control of it. His roommates took him to the emergency room around 10 p.m. and by 1:30 a.m. surgeons had to create an opening in his skull to drain excess fluid and reduce swelling in his brain. Demello drove down to Wilmington, and Gilreath’s father drove from Ohio. Doctors told them the sinus infection had gone to their son’s brain, and had ruptured.
dezhouren 发表于 2021-10-04 23:16

我真无语,死因是脑炎,因为鼻窦炎和葡萄球菌感染而没有拿到抗生素,哪里是死于新冠了?
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enchantress1016
太难过了。。。rip
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springday
RIP 至于疫苗是不是有作用, 这个帖子里几万个Comments 也不能无视吧 https://m.facebook.com/wxyzdetroit/photos/a.461583946134/10158207966696135/?type=3&source=48

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umizumi
sinus infection是covid引起的啊!搅浑水很high是吗
木牛流马 发表于 2021-10-04 23:21

你们家covid阴性的鼻窦炎算covid引起的,拿抗生素治对吧。
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silenceyh
我真无语,死因是脑炎,因为鼻窦炎和葡萄球菌感染而没有拿到抗生素,哪里是死于新冠了?
umizumi 发表于 2021-10-04 23:22

按你的说法 世界上也没有人死于艾滋病
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surge
引用主煤新闻: “Over the three weeks after Gilreath tested positive for COVID-19, he was “extremely sick,” his mother said, running a 102 degree fever and experiencing nausea and other symptoms. Around Sept. 7, his fever and other major symptoms had mostly abated, and he had tested negative for the coronavirus.
Still, he had headaches, and his feelings of lethargy seemed to be “leftover effects of COVID,” she said. When he went to the doctor’s office, however, Gilreath found out he had a sinus infection. It was a few days before he could get a prescription for oral antibiotics filled and start taking the medicine. By that point, the infection had combined with a staph infection and had started to move toward his brain, Demello said.“
看到没,先是covid已经好了,阴性了。
然后,sinus infection then staph infection,葡萄球菌感染,不知道为啥没有及时拿到抗生素,最后死于细菌性脑炎!








umizumi 发表于 2021-10-04 23:17

说了半天,如果这个sinus infection是COVID造成的,哪怕你COVID test 后来变阴性了,so what?
COVID 好了的标准不是阴性,而是COVID带来的所有症状消失。 再读一遍你自己贴的 “his fever and other major symptoms had mostly abated, and he had tested negative for the coronavirus. Still, he had headaches, and his feelings of lethargy seemed to be “leftover effects of COVID,”
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bangobunny
太难过了 哭了
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umizumi
按你的说法 世界上也没有人死于艾滋病
silenceyh 发表于 2021-10-04 23:25

艾滋病阳性就是,阴性的不是。新冠同理。
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dailymail
说了半天,如果这个sinus infection是COVID造成的,哪怕你COVID test 后来变阴性了,so what?
COVID 好了的标准不是阴性,而是COVID带来的所有症状消失。 再读一遍你自己贴的 “his fever and other major symptoms had mostly abated, and he had tested negative for the coronavirus. Still, he had headaches, and his feelings of lethargy seemed to be “leftover effects of COVID,”
surge 发表于 2021-10-04 23:25

不过大多数covid死亡是肺炎或者是器官衰竭之类的这个鼻窦感染致死也太少见了。
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seasons3
心碎了💔
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sbwb
RIP, so sad
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iammaja
唉,心碎💔,孩子拖着,做父母的暑假也可以拖着孩子去打一下疫苗呀。难以想象做父母的后悔与悲痛
QQQ1000 发表于 2021-10-04 22:16

很容易和这个妈妈共情,我一个泪点平时比较高的人,一看到孩子的事,眼泪一下留下来了。20岁的大“孩子”,是成年人了,父母真的很难逼他打疫苗了,这小伙子就是一念之差,唉。
不吐不快的大马甲
太难过了!RIP 另外,求你们不要引用那个umizumi的话了,我屏蔽他了结果你们引用我又看见了!看他的话真的污眼睛
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Microdisney
大概只是肺有损伤吧,捐给科研机构了
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star1991
引用主煤新闻: “Over the three weeks after Gilreath tested positive for COVID-19, he was “extremely sick,” his mother said, running a 102 degree fever and experiencing nausea and other symptoms. Around Sept. 7, his fever and other major symptoms had mostly abated, and he had tested negative for the coronavirus.
Still, he had headaches, and his feelings of lethargy seemed to be “leftover effects of COVID,” she said. When he went to the doctor’s office, however, Gilreath found out he had a sinus infection. It was a few days before he could get a prescription for oral antibiotics filled and start taking the medicine. By that point, the infection had combined with a staph infection and had started to move toward his brain, Demello said.“
看到没,先是covid已经好了,阴性了。
然后,sinus infection then staph infection,葡萄球菌感染,不知道为啥没有及时拿到抗生素,最后死于细菌性脑炎!








umizumi 发表于 2021-10-04 23:17

这个估计是免疫系统去和COVID打仗,其他细菌趁虚而入,如果及时拿到抗生素,应该没事的。我老公当时也是COVID阴性了,但发展成了细菌性肺炎,我们去了urgent care 照了胸片,医生马上开了抗生素,说是COVID应该好了,后来去测确实COVID 阴性了
湫湫
It’s all over the news. 看新闻,是covid已经阴性了以后才出现了sinus infection,最后发展成了脑炎。完全不是covid的死法,但是却算成covid死,到死都是covid阴性,所以器官都能用吧。换成打了疫苗,再死于脑炎,那就是肯定跟疫苗没关系的了。
umizumi 发表于 2021-10-04 22:34

你可真恶心。你看到诊断书了吗?
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sweatyarmpit007
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呃。icu那些COVID then ischemic stroke, then hemorrhagic conversation the tonsillar herniation in a 45 year old 35 days after COVID positive 不是因为COVID 么。
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sweatyarmpit007
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很多icu covid死的人都是COVID infection 一个月两个月之后。 一个walking talking 大活人,一个月以后respiratory failure in ventilator, stroke, limb ischemia, Brian death, renal failure... 呃,对,they didn't die from.covid.
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再好好读一下新闻,说的好像只有你懂英文私的。
流感引起肺炎然后死了,你说死因和流感无关?
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/09/30/tync-s30.html 20-year-old North Carolina college student dies from COVID-19
But he never got a chance. Gilreath tested positive for COVID-19 on August 20, two days after moving into his dorm at the university, his mother told the News and Observer. For three weeks, Gilreath was “extremely sick,” running a 102-degree fever, vomiting, and experiencing other major symptoms. By September 7, Gilreath tested negative for the coronavirus, and his fever and other symptoms had mostly abated. However, he still suffered from headaches and lethargy.
After going to the doctor’s office, Gilreath discovered that he had a sinus infection. In the days before he could get a prescription for antibiotics filled, the infection had combined with a staph infection and started to move toward his brain, Demello said.
On the night of September 20, Gilreath told his mother he was feeling significant weakness on the right side of his body, as if he was losing control of it. His roommates took him to the emergency room around 10 p.m. and by 1:30 a.m. surgeons had to create an opening in his skull to drain excess fluid and reduce swelling in his brain. Demello drove down to Wilmington, and Gilreath’s father drove from Ohio. Doctors told them the sinus infection had gone to their son’s brain, and had ruptured.
dezhouren 发表于 2021-10-04 23:16

这种 心黑眼瞎的人只有自己脑中一片混乱。
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saison
一场悲剧啊,20岁的孩子,真是最能体会生命美好的年纪。。。就像是白血病治疗成功后,死于肝炎。白血病不是肝炎的原因,但是不得白血病,就不至于感染肝炎就会死。能打疫苗就打吧,真是难以想象这位母亲的悲痛。
师傅的小骨
It’s all over the news. 看新闻,是covid已经阴性了以后才出现了sinus infection,最后发展成了脑炎。完全不是covid的死法,但是却算成covid死,到死都是covid阴性,所以器官都能用吧。换成打了疫苗,再死于脑炎,那就是肯定跟疫苗没关系的了。
umizumi 发表于 2021-10-04 22:34

Shame on you ! 毫无人性
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whatfor
没用的,还是有很多人会脑补为新冠引起的并发症。。。
南开阿飞 发表于 2021-10-04 22:43

那你怎么脑补出来不是新冠削弱了他的抵抗力才导致sinus infection的呢?一个小感冒都能让人浑身不适那是为什么啊?
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Sherlock2020
做妈妈的看不得这样的新闻
看到“harvested”这词 真的泪奔
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newbeginner
心如刀绞,希望这样的悲剧不要再上演
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umizumi
回复 35楼surge的帖子
很多icu covid死的人都是COVID infection 一个月两个月之后。 一个walking talking 大活人,一个月以后respiratory failure in ventilator, stroke, limb ischemia, Brian death, renal failure... 呃,对,they didn't die from.covid.
sweatyarmpit007 发表于 2021-10-04 23:42

既然知道covid最后是这个死法,直接拿这些明显covid死的出来吓唬人就完了,拿这个鼻窦炎转细菌性脑炎的出来,还不是因为,他妈是疫苗狂,他反疫苗,他年轻,所以一定要硬凹成covid死亡吓唬人拉仇恨。
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whatfor
我真无语,死因是脑炎,因为鼻窦炎和葡萄球菌感染而没有拿到抗生素,哪里是死于新冠了?
umizumi 发表于 2021-10-04 23:22

我对你这种人很无语,他的新冠应该是比较严重的,任何人得了这么一场病以后抵抗力极度下降以至于一个鼻窦炎都能发展成脑炎,并发各种常见细菌感染,都还没来得及拿到抗生素人就没了,难道还不足以说明问题?而且你的中文翻译极度误导,他是病情严重到根本还没来得及拿到药人就不行了。
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既然知道covid最后是这个死法,直接拿这些明显covid死的出来吓唬人就完了,拿这个鼻窦炎转细菌性脑炎的出来,还不是因为,他妈是疫苗狂,他反疫苗,他年轻,所以一定要硬凹成covid死亡吓唬人拉仇恨。
umizumi 发表于 2021-10-04 23:48

MM不要太激动,我觉得还是死者为大。20岁其实可以打的,这是一个悲剧。 所以对于20岁的死者来说这是一个赌博(20岁有着极低的死亡率): (1) 选择打疫苗,0.1%的可能性心肌炎和其它并发症 (2) 选择不打,0.1%的可能性死掉 很不幸的是,这位妈妈的儿子赌输了。
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sweatyarmpit007
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You do not know what happened. Only those taking care of this young man and those authorized to obtain this information knows.
You can say this story doesn''''''''t make sense and is not the typical course.
I often read stories in the news that is very confusing in terms of medicine but the journalist is not a doctor. They are not doing a sign out or grande round on this case. Journalisy don''''''''t know ischemic stroke vs. Hemorrhagic stoeke. They often don''''''''t know how viral meningitis is not the same as bacterial meningitis. They don''''''''t know what DIC is....
Did this young man get COVID associated mucormycosis? Which is kind of fungal sinus infection after COVID? I don''''t know, the article doesn''''t say. But it sure is not super rare.
And yes, most COVID patients are not suitable candidates in terms of organ donation, but some organs are okay in some patients. We call the donation people to evaluation in every patient when family is willing to consider donation and some organs are accepted sometimes.
So, no, i don''''''''t know what happened and some things might be miscommunicated. But i am also not going to say this young man''''''''s mother is lying until there are details.
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happy3001
某些混蛋做个人吧,你们自己反疫苗的楼不够灌水的吗?人家妈妈不如你了解情况?当心遭报应。
剑骨琴心
大家互相骂来骂去, 有报导死于新冠,未注射疫苗, 也有人报导是死于疫苗 吵来吵去有什么意思呢? 想打的人就去打,不想打的人就不打。 没有必要去说服别人。
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umizumi
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You do not know what happened. Only those taking care of this young man and those authorized to obtain this information knows.
You can say this story doesn''''''''t make sense and is not the typical course.
I often read stories in the news that is very confusing in terms of medicine but the journalist is not a doctor. They are not doing a sign out or grande round on this case. Journalisy don''''''''t know ischemic stroke vs. Hemorrhagic stoeke. They often don''''''''t know how viral meningitis is not the same as bacterial meningitis. They don''''''''t know what DIC is....
Did this young man get COVID associated mucormycosis? Which is kind of fungal sinus infection after COVID? I don''''t know, the article doesn''''t say. But it sure is not super rare.
And yes, most COVID patients are not suitable candidates in terms of organ donation, but some organs are okay in some patients. We call the donation people to evaluation in every patient when family is willing to consider donation and some organs are accepted sometimes.
So, no, i don''''''''t know what happened and some things might be miscommunicated. But i am also not going to say this young man''''''''s mother is lying until there are details.

sweatyarmpit007 发表于 2021-10-04 23:57

I’m not saying this mom is lying. COVID is not the direct cause of death and she used it to promote the vaccine. However, thousands of people died from the vaccine but their stories are dismissed as conspiracy. She could say her son died and donated his organs, and would earn my respect. But she used her son’s death as a scare tactic to shame the unvaccinated, since she was so provax and her son went against her. So, respect for her son, but not her.
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dailymail
大家互相骂来骂去, 有报导死于新冠,未注射疫苗, 也有人报导是死于疫苗 吵来吵去有什么意思呢? 想打的人就去打,不想打的人就不打。 没有必要去说服别人。
剑骨琴心 发表于 2021-10-05 00:04

我非常同意你的观点。
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badgerbadger
做妈妈的看不得这样的新闻
看到“harvested”这词 真的泪奔

Sherlock2020 发表于 2021-10-04 23:48

唉…
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umizumi
某些混蛋做个人吧,你们自己反疫苗的楼不够灌水的吗?人家妈妈不如你了解情况?当心遭报应。
happy3001 发表于 2021-10-04 23:59

他妈这种人就是强制疫苗的推手,假如不强制疫苗,我也不管这么多。
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sweatyarmpit007
回复 77楼umizumi的帖子
You know the Spanish flu killed more people with super imposed bacterial pneumonia and other types of infection than actual viral flu.
If you don't consider bacterial superinfection after viral infection a complication of the initial viral illness... Then you don't define things the same way any infectious disease expert defines it.
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umizumi
大家互相骂来骂去, 有报导死于新冠,未注射疫苗, 也有人报导是死于疫苗 吵来吵去有什么意思呢? 想打的人就去打,不想打的人就不打。 没有必要去说服别人。
剑骨琴心 发表于 2021-10-05 00:04

现在是要各种强制,不说服行吗,到时候关集中营都没个聊天的。
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sweatyarmpit007
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I would say, half of the COVID patients i see dying are not from the direct respiratory failure.
Many of them die weeks even months later from so many causes. They definitely would not be dead if COVID didn''''''''t happen. Yes they could.jave also gotten hit by a car. So whatever suits you.
I am not commenting on vaccine policy. I am disputing your claim that a sinus infection then a ruptured abscess leading to likely intracranial pressure, cerebral edema etc and brain death cannot be q complication of COVID.


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我觉得这位Tamra妈妈的心情很容易理解:她儿子死了,死于新冠并发症。他没有打疫苗。她现在非常痛苦,所以呼吁所有人马上打。这没什么可指责的。 但是,对于Maddie De Garay的妈妈,同样也很悲痛,12岁的Maddie De Garay因为疫苗导致终身残疾,她肯定会呼吁反对疫苗。 这些都是悲剧。


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umizumi
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You know the Spanish flu killed more people with super imposed bacterial pneumonia and other types of infection than actual viral flu.
If you don't consider bacterial superinfection after viral infection a complication of the initial viral illness... Then you don't define things the same way any infectious disease expert defines it.
sweatyarmpit007 发表于 2021-10-05 00:12

But this case isn’t typical for COVID unlike Spanish flu. Why use an isolated case as example? Aren’t there enough typical cases to scare people already? Or maybe there isn’t enough young unvaxxed death cases right now? If his immune system is weak, then the vaccine also could have caused it to compromise and caused other infections. Then would he be defined as a vaccine death? Surely not.
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tbaobao
太扎心了,看完心情好沉重,这孩子大意了,太可惜了,正是最美年华。
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umizumi
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I would say, half of the COVID patients i see dying are not from the direct respiratory failure.
Many of them die weeks even months later from so many causes. They definitely would not be dead if COVID didn''''''''t happen. Yes they could.jave also gotten hit by a car. So whatever suits you.
I am not commenting on vaccine policy. I am disputing your claim that a sinus infection then a ruptured abscess leading to likely intracranial pressure, cerebral edema etc and brain death cannot be q complication of COVID.



sweatyarmpit007 发表于 2021-10-05 00:16

SARS病人后来的严重并发症是因为激素疗法,Covid病人后来的并发症也未必不是瑞德西韦或呼吸机造成的。有伊维菌素能治但非得给禁了。
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surge
回复 77楼的帖子
I would say, half of the COVID patients i see dying are not from the direct respiratory failure.
Many of them die weeks even months later from so many causes. They definitely would not be dead if COVID didn''''''''t happen. Yes they could.jave also gotten hit by a car. So whatever suits you.
I am not commenting on vaccine policy. I am disputing your claim that a sinus infection then a ruptured abscess leading to likely intracranial pressure, cerebral edema etc and brain death cannot be q complication of COVID.



sweatyarmpit007 发表于 2021-10-05 00:16

说得很透彻。
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sweatyarmpit007
回复 85楼umizumi的帖子
Because when a healthy young person dies from COVID. It is shocking and sad. You know what? I have unvaccinated 20 something who dies too. I have 20 something patients who become severely disabled after COVID. Their parents didn't report it to the world because they are sad, they feel guilty, they feel regret. They grieve privately.
It is also not an isolated case. We have case reports in medicine and we are still studying COVID. I can't stand your dismissive attitude that no, this absolutely cannot happen due to covid because blah blah. Do you even know what hapoens in COVID? Do you even know critical care physicians or pulmonologists?
Is a deadly sinus infection not that common after COVID? It is prob not super common, but a super imposed bacterial upper airway infection after a respiratory viral illness absolutely happens. Do most sinus infection turn into an abscess (this is what I read) then kill you? No. But would this young man be dead without the initial infection?
I continue to be humbled by the myriad of ways that COVID can absolutely fuck you over.

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surge
回复 77楼umizumi的帖子
You know the Spanish flu killed more people with super imposed bacterial pneumonia and other types of infection than actual viral flu.
If you don't consider bacterial superinfection after viral infection a complication of the initial viral illness... Then you don't define things the same way any infectious disease expert defines it.
sweatyarmpit007 发表于 2021-10-05 00:12

“If you don't consider bacterial superinfection after viral infection a complication of the initial viral illness... Then you don't define things the same way any infectious disease expert defines it.”
+1 手工点赞
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Dohremi
作为一个母亲,看到娃因为疫苗死亡,又是怎样的心情? 问问那些家人死于疫苗的人。 我不反疫苗,我反强制风险不高的人打试验性疫苗。 大人打疫苗算是为了保护孩子,那孩子打疫苗算是保护谁呢?
普罗旺斯的淡紫
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你没听说过印度很多人得了covid以后还感染了毛霉菌吗?鼻子和鼻窦是最容易感染的部位。美国也有一些医院有耳念珠菌感染。真菌感染能用于治疗的药物很少,和细菌感染是两回事。
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umizumi
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Because when a healthy young person dies from COVID. It is shocking and sad. You know what? I have unvaccinated 20 something who dies too. I have 20 something patients who become severely disabled after COVID. Their parents didn''t report it to the world because they are sad, they feel guilty, they feel regret. They grieve privately.
It is also not an isolated case. We have case reports in medicine and we are still studying COVID. I can''t stand your dismissive attitude that no, this absolutely cannot happen due to covid because blah blah. Do you even know what hapoens in COVID? Do you even know critical care physicians or pulmonologists?
Is a deadly sinus infection not that common after COVID? It is prob not super common, but a super imposed bacterial upper airway infection after a respiratory viral illness absolutely happens. Do most sinus infection turn into an abscess (this is what I read) then kill you? No. But would this young man be dead without the initial infection?
I continue to be humbled by the myriad of ways that COVID can absolutely fuck you over.


sweatyarmpit007 发表于 2021-10-05 00:34

所以你不会治新冠,已经治死这么多人了。伊维菌素是严禁你开的吧,听说你的上级不让你承认任何新冠疫苗的副作用,承认了就开除,是真的吗?你见过打疫苗以后得别的病死的吗?是不是不打疫苗就肯定不会死?那些打疫苗死的人的家属,是不是也很sad不想说话,还是他们都被禁声了?为啥得新冠和死亡一前一后就算新冠死亡,打疫苗和死亡一前一后,就纯属倒霉?
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sweatyarmpit007
One of my husband''s fellow graduate school classmates died from a bacterial pneumonia after a viral flu.
This is pretty rare but does happen. This man was not immunocompromised in any way and was an athletic 20 something, but do you blame his mom if she comes out and promotes flu vaccine? Will you call her fear mongering?
Anyways, have to go to work tomorrow. Have a good night.
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sweatyarmpit007
I have in fact advised some of my patients to not receive the second dose or vaccine due or switch to other types of vaccine due to poor reaction. I have written a few discharge summaries that says "myocarditis likely secondary to COVID vaccination. Advised to refrain from additional dose currently.".
Allergist and rheumatologist and neurologist have been fielding these pro and con assessment for a long time.

There are ways to investigate if two issues that occur in temporal sequences are causal or associated. There are multi center studies right now.
I am not debating you on the COVID vaccine. I am saying 1. Serioussinus infection is absolutely something that can happen post COVID. 2. Serious sinus infection can absolutely kill you 3. This mother absolute has the right to tell her story. 4. You can absolutely feel however you feel about anything you want.






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“I do want to be clear at the outset, to a person, we are all pro-vaccine. Personally, I’ve had every flu shot since at least the swine flu. I’m current in all of my other vaccines. I was a huge supporter of Operation Warp Speed. I’m happy to acknowledge that over 300 million doses of the vaccine have been given to the U.S., and for most people, the vast majority of people, the vaccine has been administered with little or no side effects. And I personally believe the vaccine has saved countless lives, and I personally believe this vaccine has contributed to the end of the pandemic, which is what everybody in the world wants.” “What’s been happening over the last year and a half is people that are trying to tell the truth, people that are trying to get answers, are having a hard time getting their truths communicated without being vilified, without being ridiculed, without being censored. And I think that’s the general experience of the people in this group that are going to be talking to you today.”
Ken Ruettgers, a former Green Bay Packers offensive lineman, and his wife, Sheryl, who received the Moderna vaccine in January 2021. Four days after receiving the first dose, Sheryl experienced severe neurological reactions that still inhibit her ability to live a normal life, including muscle pain, numbness, weakness and paresthesia. Stephanie de Garay is a mother from Cincinnati, Ohio, whose 13-year-old daughter, Maddie, participated in the Pfizer Covid vaccine trial in December 2020 and January 2021. After Maddie received her second dose of the vaccine, she experienced severe side effects that resulted in multiple hospitalizations. Kristi Dobbs is a dental hygienist from Webb City, Missouri, who received the Pfizer Covid vaccine in January 2021. Since her vaccination, she has experienced multiple severe side effects, including pain, paresthesia and heart palpitations. Brianne Dressen is a preschool teacher from Saratoga Springs, Utah, who received the Astra Zeneca Covid vaccine during a clinical trial in November 2020. She has since experienced extensive adverse effects from the vaccine that has resulted in a medical bill of over $250,000. Candace Hayden is from Detroit, Michigan, and received both doses of the Moderna vaccine in March 2021. In April, she suffered from paresthesia and partial paralysis from the chest down, which lead to a month-long hospital stay and weeks of physical therapy.
https://www.wispolitics.com/2021/u-s-sen-johnson-these-families-have-a-very-simple-request-they-want-to-be-seen-their-stories-heard-they-would-like-to-be-believed/
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作为一个母亲,看到娃因为疫苗死亡,又是怎样的心情? 问问那些家人死于疫苗的人。 我不反疫苗,我反强制风险不高的人打试验性疫苗。 大人打疫苗算是为了保护孩子,那孩子打疫苗算是保护谁呢?
Dohremi 发表于 2021-10-05 00:40

孩子打疫苗是为了保护自己
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umizumi
I have in fact advised some of my patients to not receive the second dose or vaccine due or switch to other types of vaccine due to poor reaction.
Allergist and rheumatologist and neurologist have been fielding these pro and con assessment for a long time.

sweatyarmpit007 发表于 2021-10-05 00:53

你advise那些人不打第二针,假如那些人被强制必须打呢?你敢给他们写medical exemption吗?你的上级允许你写吗?至少在强制疫苗的加州和纽约,是没有医生会写的。