Trump's daily rallies heading into the debate have been a toxic and chaotic brew of grievance politics and way-out-there conspiracy theories about the "deep state" that require a person to watch as much Fox News as Trump does to understand. If this is what he brings to the debate stage tonight in Tennessee, he will once again lose the debate and likely the election.
"Speaking again for myself, had I wanted to help the Biden campaign, the last thing on my mind would have been to restrain the technique President Trump exhibited in the first debate." -- John Danforth
Trump's daily rallies heading into the debate have been a toxic and chaotic brew of grievance politics and way-out-there conspiracy theories about the "deep state" that require a person to watch as much Fox News as Trump does to understand. If this is what he brings to the debate stage tonight in Tennessee, he will once again lose the debate and likely the election. loveyourselfx 发表于 2020-10-22 18:33
回复 23楼hughyao的帖子 Here are twelve ways that Putin has received Trump''s payout and why Putin has been supporting Trump: Putin’s Goal: Weaken and divide the transatlantic alliance. Putin’s Payout: Trump undermines US relationships with European allies and calls the US’s commitment to NATO into question. Putin’s Goal: Degrade the European Union and foster pro-Russian political movements. Putin’s Payout: Trump attacks the EU and actively supports anti-EU, Kremlin-backed parties. Putin’s Goal: Disrupt American leadership and dominance of the global economic order. Putin’s Payout: Trump is eagerly pushing for an all-out trade war with Europe Putin’s Goal: Build global resentment and distrust towards the US and stoke anti-American sentiment. Putin’s Payout: America’s closest allies are explicitly suspicious and distrusting of the US because of Trump’s rhetoric and actions. Putin’s Goal: Relieve economic and domestic political pressure from US sanctions on Russia. Putin’s Payout: Trump tries to roll back, impede, and blunt the impact of sanctions at every step. Putin’s Goal: Legitimize regime in the eyes of the world. Putin’s Payout: Trump repeatedly praises and defends Putin, lending the credibility of the US presidency to Putin’s standing. Putin’s Goal: Revive Russia’s status as a great power and gain international recognition for its illegal seizure of Crimea. Putin’s Payout:Trump publicly says that Crimea is part of Russia and calls for Russia to be welcomed back into the international community with no concessions. Putin’s Goal: Continue to sow discord in Western democracies and avoid repercussions for interfering in American and European elections. Putin’s Payout: Trump dismisses Russian interference and has done nothing to prevent future interference, putting him at odds with own intelligence community. Putin’s Goal: Soften America’s adversarial stance toward Russia. Putin’s Payout: Trump is shifting the Republican Party’s generations-long hawkish views on Russia. Putin’s Goal: Destabilize the US from within. Putin’s Payout: Trump attacks US institutions while driving divisive politics and eroding democratic norms. Putin’s goal: Advance the Kremlin’s narrative to shape global perceptions. Putin’s payout: Trump has repeatedly, and inexplicably, parroted Kremlin talking points across a range of global issues. Putin’s goal: Undermine international norms and democratic values abroad. Putin’s payout: Trump has repeatedly failed to respond to human rights violations or support democracy abroad, creating a more permissive environment for autocrats to crack down.
回复 23楼hughyao的帖子 Here are twelve ways that Putin has received Trump''s payout and why Putin has been supporting Trump: Putin’s Goal: Weaken and divide the transatlantic alliance. Putin’s Payout: Trump undermines US relationships with European allies and calls the US’s commitment to NATO into question. Putin’s Goal: Degrade the European Union and foster pro-Russian political movements. Putin’s Payout: Trump attacks the EU and actively supports anti-EU, Kremlin-backed parties. Putin’s Goal: Disrupt American leadership and dominance of the global economic order. Putin’s Payout: Trump is eagerly pushing for an all-out trade war with Europe Putin’s Goal: Build global resentment and distrust towards the US and stoke anti-American sentiment. Putin’s Payout: America’s closest allies are explicitly suspicious and distrusting of the US because of Trump’s rhetoric and actions. Putin’s Goal: Relieve economic and domestic political pressure from US sanctions on Russia. Putin’s Payout: Trump tries to roll back, impede, and blunt the impact of sanctions at every step. Putin’s Goal: Legitimize regime in the eyes of the world. Putin’s Payout: Trump repeatedly praises and defends Putin, lending the credibility of the US presidency to Putin’s standing. Putin’s Goal: Revive Russia’s status as a great power and gain international recognition for its illegal seizure of Crimea. Putin’s Payout:Trump publicly says that Crimea is part of Russia and calls for Russia to be welcomed back into the international community with no concessions. Putin’s Goal: Continue to sow discord in Western democracies and avoid repercussions for interfering in American and European elections. Putin’s Payout: Trump dismisses Russian interference and has done nothing to prevent future interference, putting him at odds with own intelligence community. Putin’s Goal: Soften America’s adversarial stance toward Russia. Putin’s Payout: Trump is shifting the Republican Party’s generations-long hawkish views on Russia. Putin’s Goal: Destabilize the US from within. Putin’s Payout: Trump attacks US institutions while driving divisive politics and eroding democratic norms. Putin’s goal: Advance the Kremlin’s narrative to shape global perceptions. Putin’s payout: Trump has repeatedly, and inexplicably, parroted Kremlin talking points across a range of global issues. Putin’s goal: Undermine international norms and democratic values abroad. Putin’s payout: Trump has repeatedly failed to respond to human rights violations or support democracy abroad, creating a more permissive environment for autocrats to crack down. loveyourselfx 发表于 2020-10-22 18:43
"Speaking again for myself, had I wanted to help the Biden campaign, the last thing on my mind would have been to restrain the technique President Trump exhibited in the first debate." -- John Danforth 梅干茶泡饭 发表于 2020-10-22 18:34
回复 23楼hughyao的帖子 Here are twelve ways that Putin has received Trump''s payout and why Putin has been supporting Trump: Putin’s Goal: Weaken and divide the transatlantic alliance. Putin’s Payout: Trump undermines US relationships with European allies and calls the US’s commitment to NATO into question. Putin’s Goal: Degrade the European Union and foster pro-Russian political movements. Putin’s Payout: Trump attacks the EU and actively supports anti-EU, Kremlin-backed parties. Putin’s Goal: Disrupt American leadership and dominance of the global economic order. Putin’s Payout: Trump is eagerly pushing for an all-out trade war with Europe Putin’s Goal: Build global resentment and distrust towards the US and stoke anti-American sentiment. Putin’s Payout: America’s closest allies are explicitly suspicious and distrusting of the US because of Trump’s rhetoric and actions. Putin’s Goal: Relieve economic and domestic political pressure from US sanctions on Russia. Putin’s Payout: Trump tries to roll back, impede, and blunt the impact of sanctions at every step. Putin’s Goal: Legitimize regime in the eyes of the world. Putin’s Payout: Trump repeatedly praises and defends Putin, lending the credibility of the US presidency to Putin’s standing. Putin’s Goal: Revive Russia’s status as a great power and gain international recognition for its illegal seizure of Crimea. Putin’s Payout:Trump publicly says that Crimea is part of Russia and calls for Russia to be welcomed back into the international community with no concessions. Putin’s Goal: Continue to sow discord in Western democracies and avoid repercussions for interfering in American and European elections. Putin’s Payout: Trump dismisses Russian interference and has done nothing to prevent future interference, putting him at odds with own intelligence community. Putin’s Goal: Soften America’s adversarial stance toward Russia. Putin’s Payout: Trump is shifting the Republican Party’s generations-long hawkish views on Russia. Putin’s Goal: Destabilize the US from within. Putin’s Payout: Trump attacks US institutions while driving divisive politics and eroding democratic norms. Putin’s goal: Advance the Kremlin’s narrative to shape global perceptions. Putin’s payout: Trump has repeatedly, and inexplicably, parroted Kremlin talking points across a range of global issues. Putin’s goal: Undermine international norms and democratic values abroad. Putin’s payout: Trump has repeatedly failed to respond to human rights violations or support democracy abroad, creating a more permissive environment for autocrats to crack down. loveyourselfx 发表于 2020-10-22 18:43
no 并不是因为新闻本身的问题 而是key voter的seeking answer for Covid/HealthCare/Economy等等问题焦虑感极强 远远强于2016 现在顾左右而言他（比如voter fraud/hunter/racial problem)这类话题，都会增加voter对自己的key issue得不到address的焦虑，从而达到反作用--投自己的对手或者stay at home not voting
拜登过去几天集中精力准备，肯定也是有备而来。感觉今晚的辩论收视率会创纪录！
大家觉得对选情影响还大吗？现在还有多少摇摆不定的中间选民？
网上边看直播边回帖，零食都准备好了！
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川粉对川皇的期待值是零， 他做到1 都觉得他大赢了， pathetic！
全程看了final faceoff. 没有啥神秘嘉宾。 第一个问题川普就说谎，被主持人揭穿。老川大嘴一张说疫苗会在一周后分发，主持人大喜过望，说这可是个新消息啊，再次与老川确认时，老川支支晤唔，又改口说可能年底。 老川质问老白儿子的电邮门，说老白在任期内腐败是犯罪。老白质问老川750税钱要求老川公开过去这些年税表，老川说自己有预付税。 非法移民问题，老川无论语音还是表情回答太低级，竞然low IQ这话都说出来了，感觉他真的有不自知的白人至上思想。 医保这个问题两人各自有理。 外交方面老川强调私人友谊有利于大国外交，老白称必须要中国守规则。感觉老白是老牌政客，老川则像他自己强调的不是个典型的政客。 感觉这场Debate,老白稍微占上风。
🛋️ 沙发板凳
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有用没用不知道，但不得不说，收视率肯定会极高啊！俩老头的最后一次交锋了。
还没投的也不是少数啊。
done！
现在票都投了五千万了，很可能选前就投了八千万票，16年才4200万，大局已经很难改了
梅姐是谁？凭什么她说了算？
绝大部分人还没投票。今天才22日，如果这场辩论有戏剧性效果或者猛料出来，还真不好说呢。
今晚不出意料，会创下史上总统辩论的收视率新高。
第一次静麦吧？
白宫发言人：川普将于24日佛州西棕榈滩提前投票。
以前都是honor system吧，都到presidential这个level了谁知道还能有像幼儿园吵架一样的。。。
"Speaking again for myself, had I wanted to help the Biden campaign, the last thing on my mind would have been to restrain the technique President Trump exhibited in the first debate."
-- John Danforth
从今天川普的话风来看，他接受了第一次的教训，觉得还是nice些对自己有利。
真担心川普冲动了跑过去打拜登一顿。感觉拜登打不过他。哈哈哈
这次应该不会了。首先，川普自己感觉第一次的做法失策了，对自己没好处的事，没人会做第二次。另外技术上，也防止这种情况发生了。
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Here are twelve ways that Putin has received Trump''s payout and why Putin has been supporting Trump:
Putin’s Goal: Weaken and divide the transatlantic alliance. Putin’s Payout: Trump undermines US relationships with European allies and calls the US’s commitment to NATO into question.
Putin’s Goal: Degrade the European Union and foster pro-Russian political movements. Putin’s Payout: Trump attacks the EU and actively supports anti-EU, Kremlin-backed parties.
Putin’s Goal: Disrupt American leadership and dominance of the global economic order. Putin’s Payout: Trump is eagerly pushing for an all-out trade war with Europe
Putin’s Goal: Build global resentment and distrust towards the US and stoke anti-American sentiment. Putin’s Payout: America’s closest allies are explicitly suspicious and distrusting of the US because of Trump’s rhetoric and actions.
Putin’s Goal: Relieve economic and domestic political pressure from US sanctions on Russia. Putin’s Payout: Trump tries to roll back, impede, and blunt the impact of sanctions at every step.
Putin’s Goal: Legitimize regime in the eyes of the world. Putin’s Payout: Trump repeatedly praises and defends Putin, lending the credibility of the US presidency to Putin’s standing.
Putin’s Goal: Revive Russia’s status as a great power and gain international recognition for its illegal seizure of Crimea. Putin’s Payout:Trump publicly says that Crimea is part of Russia and calls for Russia to be welcomed back into the international community with no concessions.
Putin’s Goal: Continue to sow discord in Western democracies and avoid repercussions for interfering in American and European elections. Putin’s Payout: Trump dismisses Russian interference and has done nothing to prevent future interference, putting him at odds with own intelligence community.
Putin’s Goal: Soften America’s adversarial stance toward Russia. Putin’s Payout: Trump is shifting the Republican Party’s generations-long hawkish views on Russia.
Putin’s Goal: Destabilize the US from within. Putin’s Payout: Trump attacks US institutions while driving divisive politics and eroding democratic norms.
Putin’s goal: Advance the Kremlin’s narrative to shape global perceptions. Putin’s payout: Trump has repeatedly, and inexplicably, parroted Kremlin talking points across a range of global issues.
Putin’s goal: Undermine international norms and democratic values abroad. Putin’s payout: Trump has repeatedly failed to respond to human rights violations or support democracy abroad, creating a more permissive environment for autocrats to crack down.
If you are still undecided at this point, where the f have you been for the last 4 years?
川普就是普京的一条狗， 还有什么可质疑的吗？
选拜登就是选kamala， 那就更应该选拜登， ASIAN WOMAN POWER!
川普就是自我毁灭机器， 静mic 确实是帮他助选
应该不会了 有mute button
有这个大🍊在，这个颜面问题基本无解
所以说，选Trump就是选Putin狗🐶
基本没啥影响感觉。立场鲜明的越看对方越恶心，不管他说啥。没有立场的也懒得看。
不喜欢民主党搬去红脖子区没人能祸害你。按照你这个逻辑推断，选Trump就是等不及被间谍了，自己爱蹲号子还要拉上全美华人。
你以前不天天说一眼就能看出chinese么，现在怎么变成asian了。
看收视率吧
Can I suggest that people post their snack tray. I am more interested in snack than debate, lol
全世界都与我们家川川为敌呢。
上面的拜登说：I'll listen to the scientists.
我还以为是拜登的广告呢，结果是川普的， 拜登说listen to the scientists居然成了攻击他的爆点～～
在rally上就讲过了 威胁大家Biden上台可就听科学家了啦！
民主党都是号召早点去投，尤其是今年。共和党觉得早投了民主党会作弊，所以都会晚点再投。我们家就还没投呢。
我的天，川普这是要红脖子的把愚夫愚妇们忽悠到死了～～ 那华人川粉又是图啥呢？他们都是至少受过９年制义务教育的， 怎么会去认同这个？如果不是职业选手的话。
拜登不知道。但希拉里后来是被爆出提前知道辩论问题了。
不知道这些人的乐观从哪儿来。还是不要高兴太早吧，经历过16年的选举，怎么也该学会了呀。
不可思议 啊
seriously 今年辩论的题目还需要leak么。。。第一场所有题目估计看电视一周都可以猜出来。。。。
梅姐，你觉得亨特的新闻会有大逆转效果吗？
投完了，看看热闹吧
开始啦～～～
讲话语速什么的沉稳多了，第一次真替他着急，哈哈
no 并不是因为新闻本身的问题 而是key voter的seeking answer for Covid/HealthCare/Economy等等问题焦虑感极强 远远强于2016 现在顾左右而言他（比如voter fraud/hunter/racial problem)这类话题，都会增加voter对自己的key issue得不到address的焦虑，从而达到反作用--投自己的对手或者stay at home not voting
上次辩论数据调查之后发现这一招非常吸粉
他讲到他自己小孩positive ，主持人问他学校open之后很多cases，应该直接问，所有小孩会得到总统儿子级别的照顾吗
对啊，拜登是没头脑，川普是不高兴。
一样。周一就把票投了所有民主党。说那么多都是扯淡。
反正他有8克蛋白，12个医生。至于没有的，this is life.
yes. 学乖了
说的没covid大家就百病不生了一样。那样倒是好了。问题能不能现实一点。
他只看经济不管人命
一般美国人啥也记不住，一晚上就记住，都是中国的错！