马仔就是这个cdc的头啊， CDC Warned Security Leaders About Threat Of A Mysterious Pathogen On Jan. 2. What Happened Next? Behind the scenes, the National Security Council worked around the clock to try to understand the novel coronavirus after the CDC's Dr. Robert Redfield tipped the members off in early January. Meanwhile, the Trump administration had ended a pandemic detection program two months before the outbreak started in China. And mixed messages and shifting leadership from President Donald Trump and within the White House and Defense Department sow confusion. https://khn.org/morning-breakout/cdc-warned-security-leaders-about-threat-of-a-mysterious-pathogen-on-jan-2-what-happened-next/
first, I want to thank you for your decisive leadership in helping us, you know, put public health first ....that's the most important thing I want to say. MP 精级别很高。
系统提示：若遇到视频无法播放请点击下方链接 https://www.youtube.com/embed/4bq6lWdJAO4 早在2018年这个家伙刚被任命的时候，媒体就有过批评这个家伙根本不合格。当然当时谁也想不到会有那么大一考验，假的就露馅了呗。 https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/13/opinions/trumps-terrible-choice-for-cdc-redfield-garrett/index.html Why Trump's new CDC director is an abysmal choice Redfield's early engagement with the AIDS epidemic in the US in the 1980s and 90s was controversial. As an Army major at Walter Reed Medical Institute, he designed policies for controlling the disease within the US military that involved placing infected personnel in quarantine and investigating their pasts to identify and track possible sexual partners. Soldiers were routinely discharged and left to die of AIDS, humiliated and jobless, often abandoned by their families. In the 1980s Redfield worked closely with W. Shepherd Smith, Jr. and his Christian organization, Americans for a Sound AIDS/HIV Policy, or ASAP. The group maintained that AIDS was "God's judgment" against homosexuals, spread in an America weakened by single-parent households and loss of family values. Redfield wrote the introduction to a 1990 book, "Christians in the Age of AIDS," co-written by Smith, in which he denounced distribution of sterile needles to drug users and condoms to sexually active adults, and described anti-discrimination programs as the efforts of "false prophets."
first, I want to thank you for your decisive leadership in helping us, you know, put public health first ....that's the most important thing I want to say. MP 精级别很高。
系统提示：若遇到视频无法播放请点击下方链接 https://www.youtube.com/embed/4bq6lWdJAO4 早在2018年这个家伙刚被任命的时候，媒体就有过批评这个家伙根本不合格。当然当时谁也想不到会有那么大一考验，假的就露馅了呗。 https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/13/opinions/trumps-terrible-choice-for-cdc-redfield-garrett/index.html Why Trump's new CDC director is an abysmal choice Redfield's early engagement with the AIDS epidemic in the US in the 1980s and 90s was controversial. As an Army major at Walter Reed Medical Institute, he designed policies for controlling the disease within the US military that involved placing infected personnel in quarantine and investigating their pasts to identify and track possible sexual partners. Soldiers were routinely discharged and left to die of AIDS, humiliated and jobless, often abandoned by their families. In the 1980s Redfield worked closely with W. Shepherd Smith, Jr. and his Christian organization, Americans for a Sound AIDS/HIV Policy, or ASAP. The group maintained that AIDS was "God's judgment" against homosexuals, spread in an America weakened by single-parent households and loss of family values. Redfield wrote the introduction to a 1990 book, "Christians in the Age of AIDS," co-written by Smith, in which he denounced distribution of sterile needles to drug users and condoms to sexually active adults, and described anti-discrimination programs as the efforts of "false prophets." luming 发表于 2020-08-14 14:34
Two senior Trump political appointees departed the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, a senior official at the agency confirmed to CNN. Kyle McGowan, the chief of staff, and Amanda Campbell, the deputy chief of staff, resigned effective Friday, leaving to start a consulting firm, the official said. Both left voluntarily, the official added. CNN has reached out to McGowan and Campbell for comment. https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/15/politics/cdc-chief-of-staff-deputy-kyle-mcgowan-amanda-campbell-depart/index.html
Two senior Trump political appointees departed the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, a senior official at the agency confirmed to CNN. Kyle McGowan, the chief of staff, and Amanda Campbell, the deputy chief of staff, resigned effective Friday, leaving to start a consulting firm, the official said. Both left voluntarily, the official added. CNN has reached out to McGowan and Campbell for comment. https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/15/politics/cdc-chief-of-staff-deputy-kyle-mcgowan-amanda-campbell-depart/index.html squirrel40 发表于 2020-08-15 15:40
自称生活在其它国家，操心美国到百思不解的程度。
我亲友在美国生活 关心下有什么奇怪的？版上还都关注中国呢，难道都生活在国内？
觉得你从早到晚泡在北美论坛。
啥亲友你这么在意人家的生活？
强烈要求一起打包带走
问一句CDC的头头 你为什么这样不爽？和CDC有什么关系么？
是啊这里发帖方便 有知识有含量有信息的帖子多 喜欢看这个论坛怎么了？
马仔是负责testing的人么？CDC里面到底都是什么人？这个头到底在保护谁呢？
那为啥不fire CDC head啊？现在的民意fire掉他没问题吧！总统没权利fire么？
总统当然有，但是这么一个言听计从的人不好找。我还记得总统要求开学，但是说cdc 开学guideline太严，第二天立马cdc就把开学guideline改了。有这么回事儿吧？你看这么个人，大总统怎么舍得把他开掉啊。
马仔就是这个cdc的头啊，
CDC Warned Security Leaders About Threat Of A Mysterious Pathogen On Jan. 2. What Happened Next? Behind the scenes, the National Security Council worked around the clock to try to understand the novel coronavirus after the CDC's Dr. Robert Redfield tipped the members off in early January. Meanwhile, the Trump administration had ended a pandemic detection program two months before the outbreak started in China. And mixed messages and shifting leadership from President Donald Trump and within the White House and Defense Department sow confusion. https://khn.org/morning-breakout/cdc-warned-security-leaders-about-threat-of-a-mysterious-pathogen-on-jan-2-what-happened-next/
没听说过豪华酒店 最近天气好坐small boat的偷渡者增加 于是英法出动军队巡逻 在海滩上抓到就送进遣返中心deport 内政大臣出面态度很强硬
不过没听说有人说Boris是极右派的 只是右派
Nigel的名声现在臭了 他去美国之后回到英国 没有遵守居家隔离的rule就出来乱逛 大失人心
PS：这个话题和这个主题没有关系 你自己出去单独发一个主题 我和你讨论
关键是民意是什么？华人上民意，美国大众民意，和政治家的民意是三个不同东西
我已经说了 你如果想讨论这个 自己去发一个主题 你在这里转移话题是因为你喜欢CDC么？
典型的马屁精模样！
真烦你这种人。就许你身在廊坊关心美国。
好吧 你说的我觉得很有道理。。。
sigh...
u1s1 不觉得这张照片有马屁精的感觉啊
倒是那条领带真是。。。
我问的是你说的这个“我亲友在美国生活 关心下有什么奇怪的？版上还都关注中国呢，难道都生活在国内？”，而不是CDC的头头的事。
那么你现在改成不是因为关心亲友而是华人网好使？
这里讨论的大多是北美的生活，得到的信息跟你的生活关系不大，除非你的美国生活的“亲友”是父母。
至于讨论国内的，一则因为父母在国内，二则太多的五毛热衷于发国内特色的宣传惹人反感容易引起掐架。而且这里关注国内的方式并不是去国内的论坛，跟你也不一样。
转移话题不就是想引开对CDC的注意力么？
我为什么要向你透露个人隐私？
这届美国总统明明hired the best people
这里讨论CDC的题材和数量还少吗？有啥需要转移注意力的？
哦，原来你是翻墙来的，知道了。美国抗疫不力政客尤其州长也有错，而且很多人太爱自由，再说，没有人去 控诉他。他也没有违规。最后，真正抗疫成功的，只有台湾而已。世界上的其他人岂不是都要被炒掉？
看别人问你一个不住美国的人对美国这么关心，我也觉得有些好奇。你紧张个啥？
他真的应该辞职！
川普不fire他，已经很给他面子了，也算川普给自己面子，毕竟是自己选的人。
但他应该自觉辞职！
她不需要翻墙，因为住欧洲
我在美国读的大学待了好多年 大量朋友在美国 这是有友 我有至亲cousin以及类似的关系的亲属不止一个在美国读书工作 这叫有亲 我在想你们都是铁石心肠么？？
我愿意看什么论坛那是我的自由 不信你去看看我之前发的沃尔玛wipes主题 那是为啥？ 因为我不知道为啥他们online刷不到wipes所以我要在欧洲时间美国睡觉的时候刷刷刷。。。。！！ 连我们这种啥工业没有的落后国家都可以买买买了！
倒是这个主题就是质问下公众人物，你哪里不舒服？ 这个网站上讨论英国首相的，讨论默克尔的，讨论世界各地公众人物的少么？
“啥亲友你这么在意人家的生活？“
你这句话的口气非常不友好 我认为你在poke我的隐私。That is it. 如果你好好说话，我也会好好答复你。
CDC，FDA, 之类的机构都被猪党掌控。不信？老川今天fire CDC头，明天猪党就会开始investigate和impeach。老川这个总统做得真心不容易！
CDC FDA的头头是奥巴马任命的吗？总统都不能touch么 真黑暗！
那个好像也是CDC的 有人说是说错话于是雪藏了 也有的说是去忙搞疫苗了 那个人说话比这个CDC的头头说的条例好多了
Nancy Messonnier？ 当时不是因为是Rod Rosenstein 的sister被这里的id讨伐？
现在这个头我记得是18年初就上任了。当时也是议论纷纷。
first, I want to thank you for your decisive leadership in helping us, you know, put public health first ....that's the most important thing I want to say. MP 精级别很高。
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早在2018年这个家伙刚被任命的时候，媒体就有过批评这个家伙根本不合格。当然当时谁也想不到会有那么大一考验，假的就露馅了呗。 https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/13/opinions/trumps-terrible-choice-for-cdc-redfield-garrett/index.html
Why Trump's new CDC director is an abysmal choice
Redfield's early engagement with the AIDS epidemic in the US in the 1980s and 90s was controversial. As an Army major at Walter Reed Medical Institute, he designed policies for controlling the disease within the US military that involved placing infected personnel in quarantine and investigating their pasts to identify and track possible sexual partners. Soldiers were routinely discharged and left to die of AIDS, humiliated and jobless, often abandoned by their families. In the 1980s Redfield worked closely with W. Shepherd Smith, Jr. and his Christian organization, Americans for a Sound AIDS/HIV Policy, or ASAP. The group maintained that AIDS was "God's judgment" against homosexuals, spread in an America weakened by single-parent households and loss of family values.
Redfield wrote the introduction to a 1990 book, "Christians in the Age of AIDS," co-written by Smith, in which he denounced distribution of sterile needles to drug users and condoms to sexually active adults, and described anti-discrimination programs as the efforts of "false prophets."
我早就说了，几个月前mike pence每次上电视和每天的briefing一开始就高度赞扬英明领秀的英明领导，就是为以后甩锅做准备的。
早就说了，女婿功不可没
那为什么不fire掉？白宫通共么？
美国的游戏规则，在guideline没有改变前follow guideline，即使它有错，避免法律责任。现在没有任何说法不听CDC了，所以它仍是指导机构，即使你认为它的guideline不对。
CDC的头算政府公务员吗？这人真是站着茅坑不拉屎的主，早该开来。
包括前一阵说什么老年人该死的那个德州官员，和我们愿意做对照组的拉斯维加斯官员。
包括Trump自己还在夸we did a good job呢。
对。我完全同意你说的follow guideline。所以都是程序正确的杀人
你不相信世界上最强大的国家怎么会没有plan b，就像我无法相信一群政府hire的phd怎么能连个试剂盒都搞砸了一样，要知道设计个pcr反应不仅已经有很多工具了，而且属于本科生就可以完成的task。但是就是发生了。 这次反应出来的各种 “怎么会......但就是发生了” 还少吗
关键是他们当初还不放权 当时好多MM说自己的实验室可以立刻测试只是CDC不允许
所以我突然明白了。为什么没有一个官员被问责呢？因为都是中国的错啊，你要问责cdc不是摆明其中也有cdc的问题吗？那不行，那怎么把所以责任都推给中国呢？
是人就会犯错。某个PHD, 或某个环节出错搞砸某个试剂的几率总是有的。 但是没想到的是，几亿人的国家居然就全指望那个小组的试剂。 看到情况不对，紧急外部采购或者哪怕委托某大学研制，也就是几天可以搞定的事情。
How Jared Kushner’s Secret Testing Plan “Went Poof Into Thin Air” https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/07/how-jared-kushners-secret-testing-plan-went-poof-into-thin-air/amp
怕是没有能力作出试剂盒的机构，也没有能力发现试剂盒是错的吧。 等发现了，已经晚了 几亿人都指望的机构，自然不肯权利外放，否则外表的金玉马上就粉粉碎了
这种Fire 官员不属于总统的职权范围，除非他违法违规，CDC 会让他走人。
后来也放了，而且也没有太久
有点意思，我还真没想到这一层，还以为就一帮马屁精。学习了。
没天理了 他们就真的晚上睡得着么
Kyle McGowan, the chief of staff, and Amanda Campbell, the deputy chief of staff, resigned effective Friday, leaving to start a consulting firm, the official said. Both left voluntarily, the official added. CNN has reached out to McGowan and Campbell for comment.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/15/politics/cdc-chief-of-staff-deputy-kyle-mcgowan-amanda-campbell-depart/index.html
Ann Schuchat? 她早期曾经说病毒会到美国，not if but when. 后来没出现在新闻发布会上。
今上的手下但凡有一点integrity 的都走了， 剩下的都是一堆马屁精！
床铺和John Bolton diabanded pandemic team, 说是reorginization, 显然很不成功。 另外pandemic tream不在CDC, 在白宫national security council, 所以从前应该有很大权力协调各方的🤷♀️
这两个人做什么方面的
昨天的新闻 Acting DHS chief Wolf and senior aide Cuccinelli not legally qualified to hold their jobs, congressional watchdog says Wolf and Cuccinelli assumed their jobs by an order of succession from an acting secretary who himself had no authority to hold his job, the GAO concluded. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1236735
wolf的这个视频很出名的
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原来你是国内的？
显然不是。。。
https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.html?topicid=2577418
这个director Redfield在做艾滋病砖家的时候就有很多争议（说同性恋是上帝的审判，吹捧疫苗圈钱结果毛用没有等等）。 2018年川普任命他的时候给了37万的高薪，又引起争议后自降到21万（之前他在马里兰大学有百万年薪，川普2017年任命的第一个director在被股票交易调查后做了几个月就辞职了）。疫情期间他一直没啥存在感，让80岁的老福奇上去挡hoax派的指责。这次新闻发布会后有八个cdc的专家说他完全政治化了
1，疫情初期没能履行监控全球疫情的职责（funding被砍）， In 2018, the CDC stopped epidemic prevention activities in 39 out of 49 countries, including China, after the Trump administration refused to reallocate money to a program that began as part of the government''s response to the Ebola outbreak in 2014. At that time, Dr. Tom Frieden, director of the CDC from 2009 to 2017, said the move "would significantly increase the chance an epidemic will spread without our knowledge and endanger lives in our country and around the world."
2，试剂盒出错，实验室感染，错过了最重要的抗疫窗口 https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/cdc-lab-contamination-delayed-coronavirus-testing-67438
3，上周还发生了根据白宫要求偷偷删数据的事情（被大规模批评后又恢复了） https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/507971-trump-administration-seeking-to-block-funding-for-cdc-contact-tracing
4，现在又为教育部部长和副部长的“学校必须重开”背书 https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-cps-new-cdc-isbe-guidance-schools-20200724-raohulhdzjcr3mafdnrdtu54k4-story.html