校长发的信：已经出离愤怒了，以前说华人给cdc打电话过度反应，现在是时候对他们狂批轰炸了，效率可比武汉政府！ 等开始爆发或者医护感染时候已经太晚了！ I was told that the test results may take 5-7 days. For obvious reasons, I have made a formal request that the CDC provide more rapid results and I have asked other community leaders to push for the same.
bloomberg看到一些干货： ”About 40 public health labs can currently test for the virus using the modified version of the existing tests, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said in Washington Thursday. A new test kit the government is developing could be sent to more than 90 public-health labs as soon as Monday, he said.
… The existing test, built by CDC just a few weeks after the virus was sequenced, is able to detect small amounts of the virus found in swabs taken from the nose and throats of potential patients. It’s called a real-time polymerase chain-reaction test, or real-time PCR, and it takes about four to six hours to run. Local labs have run into issues performing what’s called validation -- a crucial step to determine if the tests are reliable. The test looks at the genetic material of the virus to confirm the pathogen is present. It involves a series of three sub-tests, all of which have to be positive for the full test to be considered positive. State and local labs have run into problems with the third of the sub-tests. Becker, from the lab association, said federal health officials were going to let them drop that part and use only two.“ https://blinks.bloomberg.com/news/stories/Q6DBTTDWX2PW
： ”About 40 public health labs can currently test for the virus using the modified version of the existing tests, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said in Washington Thursday. A new test kit the government is developing could be sent to more than 90 public-health labs as soon as Monday, he said.
… The existing test, built by CDC just a few weeks after the virus was sequenced, is able to detect small amounts of the virus found in swabs taken from the nose and throats of potential patients. It’s called a real-time polymerase chain-reaction test, or real-time PCR, and it takes about four to six hours to run. Local labs have run into issues performing what’s called validation -- a crucial step to determine if the tests are reliable. The test looks at the genetic material of the virus to confirm the pathogen is present. It involves a series of three sub-tests, all of which have to be positive for the full test to be considered positive. State and local labs have run into problems with the third of the sub-tests. Becker, from the lab association, said federal health officials were going to let them drop that part and use only two.“ https://blinks.bloomberg.com/news/stories/Q6DBTTDWX2PW
Please urge CDC to change the out-dated criteria to test more patients for the novel coronavirus!
Right now we already have a confirmed case in California that is said to have NO contact with a confirmed case or a travel history to China. But CDC is still requiring a travel history to China in the past 14 days or contact with a confirmed case to test the novel coronavirus unless you are severely ill. This newly confirmed case shows that the virus is now spreading in US community, but CDC's out-dated exposure criteria may have made many patients of 2019-nCoV not receiving the correct diagnose and treatment that they DESERVE. We all know that the anti-virus treatment is more effective when it is given at the early stage, while the effect would be very limited if the condition develops overtime.
Therefore, allowing tests to all suspicious cases, rather than based only on the current strict and out-dated exposure criteria is the key to success in preventing epidemic and battling with Corona virus! Please urge CDC and local medical practitioners to remove this epidemiological risk criteria (travel history or close contact with confirmed case) and test more patients suspicious of 2019-nCoV in a timely manner, which would greatly reduce the risk of community outbreak and economic loss. Please help to voice my family and friends' concern to CDC and save the lives of those not-yet-diagnosed patients! allenpanda 发表于 2/27/2020 3:08:55 PM
明天开始WA可以在state自己检测病毒了，半天给result。一个小时前刚更新的。Washington state health officials provide update on their response to the coronavirus. www.king5.com 刚在facebook上看的直播
明天开始WA可以在state自己检测病毒了，半天给result。一个小时前刚更新的。Washington state health officials provide update on their response to the coronavirus. www.king5.com 刚在facebook上看的直播
等开始爆发或者医护感染时候已经太晚了！
I was told that the test results may take 5-7 days. For obvious reasons, I have made a formal request that the CDC provide more rapid results and I have asked other community leaders to push for the same.
这个还是得再测测，不是有两次以后才转阳性的。。
是公校。
老师和家人最近有去其他国家，回来后家属发烧，老师目前正常。
家属得检查结果要5-7 天才出来，学校不放心，今天关门一天给学校消毒。
diamond princess的人要连测三次都是阴性才算阴性的。维也纳学校这个做法有假阴性的可能。
cdc只要给测就行。我觉得现在时间不是问题。关键是他要给测。
他们老师从意大利刚回来没多久 和大家接触的时间小 考虑到风险不是特别大 叫孩子们回家自己monitor了 老师接着隔离观察
奥地利是非密切接触者回家
密切接触者继续自我隔离
我觉得还算make sense
这事最重要的是raise alarm
当地不着急的手术啊 看牙啊 理发啊 聚餐啊可以缓一缓 其实只要alarm的够及时够早 大家坚持一周 就能控制住
武汉就是作死
如果早点raise alarm 武汉人民只要减少聚餐一周 就够了 不至于到今天这个地步
cdc有它的priority list吧 你急他不急
嗯。国内是lost cause...
欧洲，如果意大利将来的2礼拜数据可以控制住就不错。
西雅图这个，就算cdc一次就回来说是阴性，我觉得家长还是会不放心的。估计好多娃会在家带着。要是cdc连查三次都是阴性，还让人放心点。
对待瘟疫，时间非常重要，争分夺秒确认隔离才能防止扩撒，不然7天时间，染病人数可以指数增长。
CDC 的priority 可能就是要按时下班，美国政府很多部门的效率低的令人发指， 里面一群 diversity 招的闲人。DMV 拖沓也就忍了，像CDC 这种人命关天的也是一路货。
美国的国荣国耻和你有半毛钱关系吗
mark， 离BOTHELL HIGH不到10miles， 担心。
”About 40 public health labs can currently test for the virus using the modified version of the existing tests, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said in Washington Thursday. A new test kit the government is developing could be sent to more than 90 public-health labs as soon as Monday, he said.
…
The existing test, built by CDC just a few weeks after the virus was sequenced, is able to detect small amounts of the virus found in swabs taken from the nose and throats of potential patients. It’s called a real-time polymerase chain-reaction test, or real-time PCR, and it takes about four to six hours to run.
Local labs have run into issues performing what’s called validation -- a crucial step to determine if the tests are reliable. The test looks at the genetic material of the virus to confirm the pathogen is present. It involves a series of three sub-tests, all of which have to be positive for the full test to be considered positive.
State and local labs have run into problems with the third of the sub-tests. Becker, from the lab association, said federal health officials were going to let them drop that part and use only two.“
https://blinks.bloomberg.com/news/stories/Q6DBTTDWX2PW
也就是下周病例会突然增加。
只需要5-10分钟给自己州的议员写信打电话，大家都行动吧，不要指望CDC官僚机构自己觉悟，晚了大家都有危险。
有没有email script 借用一下
以美国的国力要是真想测真想治疗，嗖嗖嗖就全搞完了，不想花钱不想动用人力物力，就让大家等死呗
这话太政治不正确了额。
我昨天开的楼，已经有几个集思广益的版本了，欢迎大家根据local情况修改，有personal experience可能更打动人https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2511393&forumpage=2
哈哈，这么说政治太不正确了。而且客观讲CDC粉在这论坛上不停洗地，干了不少活了。
谢谢，会转发
赞mm，顶起来让更多人看到
谢谢你。这个解释很清楚为什么一直没下放到state lab。我一直以为是试剂问题。目前看貌似他们有些教条。positive 用三个validation 才算过。这个lab 用来做proficiency 比较是对的.但目前这种情况真有点不合适。
有这方面的Mm能评论一下吗。
mm单开个帖子吧。我今天已经发过一贴了就不能再发了。这个消息我觉得比版上多数帖子有用。
是试剂问题。CDC最初设计包括3个新冠病毒基因位点，N1, N2和N3. 两周前发到地方public health lab(PHL)后很多发现N3的结果有问题。现在是FDA同意去掉N3，只用N1, N2出结果。所以很多PHL不用等CDC的重新发试剂，用现有的就可以。所以很快就有很多地方PHL可以做了。
mark mark
保护孩子！！呼吁西雅图关校！！！
像旧金山一样宣布进入紧急状态！！！！
华人网是土共投了重金的，真有人不知道？！以为好几年前就都知道了。
Mark!多谢！现在真是急死人了
华人高管有五毛早就不是秘密了啊！mm提出的建议很有价值，会帮你顶让更多人看到
再帮顶
凡是集体请愿的帖子都看不见。
版主归谁管？怎么当选？
不知道CA哪里可以？谢谢mm及时发消息。