CDC气死人了,最新这病例都插管上呼吸机了都拖着不给测新冠,真的该给Senator写信了

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cheeryinmay
楼主 (北美华人网)
抛砖引玉吧,其实写得好不好不管了,反正就是要发声,本来还想说更多,但是怕“太长不看”,就写了这些。给CDC洗地的麻烦绕道!我也不想跟你理论,你觉得CDC做得对做得好,也可以让议员去夸啊!你去送锦旗我也不管,但你也别管我!
大家也可以参考19、53、55、65、67、73楼的模版和建议,刚刚看隔壁帖cdc终于肯放宽检测条件了https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2511681&forumpage=1,那么现在我的模版就过时了,但如果有其他concern和诉求,大家完全可以继续通过议员督促cdc!
Title: Please urge CDC to test more patients for the novel coronavirus!
You can find CDC's current test criteria for the 2019-nCoV on their website (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nCoV/hcp/clinical-criteria.html), which requires a travel history to China in the past 14 days or contact with a confirmed case. Even when they say "For severely ill individuals, testing can be considered when exposure history is equivocal (e.g., uncertain travel or exposure, or no known exposure) and another etiology has not been identified", I've been suspecting that such criteria made many patients of 2019-nCoV not receiving the correct diagnose and treatment that they DESERVE. My guess is now confirmed true as the 60th confirmed case in the US is said to have NO contact with a confirmed case or a travel history to China. In other words, he or she got the virus from community exposure. You can reading more details about this patient's case from the link below. CDC refused to give him or her the test although the hospital requested so until last Sunday, even when he or she had been in critical situation since Wed, Feb 19. The description is "the patient had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition”. (https://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/newly-diagnosed-coronavirus-patient-being-treated-at-uc-davis-medical-center/)
I am not saying that everyone should get the test, but people with flu-like symptom, especially when they are negative for flu or other viruses, deserve a 2019-nCoV test so they receive appropriate treatment, and people around them including healthcare providers get appropriate protection. It is pretty clear that the anti-virus treatment is more effective when it is given at the early stage, but the effect would be very limited if the condition develops overtime. Testing and treating more patients of 2019-nCoV in a timely manner may bring some challenge to CDC and the health departments, but it would reduce the risk of community outbreak and economic loss. That's what these government agencies were established for, isn't it?? Please help to voice my family and friends' concern to CDC and save the lives of those not-yet-diagnosed patients!
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RCW
抛砖引玉吧,其实写得好不好不管了,反正就是要发声,本来还想说更多,但是怕“太长不看”,就写了这些。给CDC洗地的麻烦绕道!我也不想跟你理论,你觉得CDC做得对做得好,也可以让议员去夸啊!你去送锦旗我也不管,但你也别管我!

Title: Please urge CDC to test more patients for the novel coronavirus!
You can find CDC's current test criteria for the 2019-nCoV on their website (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nCoV/hcp/clinical-criteria.html), which requires a travel history to China in the past 14 days or contact with a confirmed case. Even when they say "For severely ill individuals, testing can be considered when exposure history is equivocal (e.g., uncertain travel or exposure, or no known exposure) and another etiology has not been identified", I've been suspecting that such criteria made many patients of 2019-nCoV not receiving the correct diagnose and treatment that they DESERVE. My guess is now confirmed true as the 60th confirmed case in the US is said to have NO contact with a confirmed case or a travel history to China. In other words, he or she got the virus from community exposure. You can reading more details about this patient's case from the link below. CDC refused to give him or her the test although the hospital requested so until last Sunday, even when he or she had been in critical situation since Wed, Feb 19. The description is "the patient had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition”. (https://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/newly-diagnosed-coronavirus-patient-being-treated-at-uc-davis-medical-center/)
I am not saying that everyone should get the test, but people with flu-like symptom, especially when they are negative for flu or other viruses, deserve a 2019-nCoV test so they receive appropriate treatment, and people around them including healthcare providers get appropriate protection. It is pretty clear that the anti-virus treatment is more effective when it is given at the early stage, but the effect would be very limited if the condition develops overtime. Testing and treating more patients of 2019-nCoV in a timely manner may bring some challenge to CDC and the health departments, but it would reduce the risk of community outbreak and economic loss. That's what these government agencies were established for, isn't it?? Please help to voice my family and friends' concern to CDC and save the lives of those not-yet-diagnosed patients!

cheeryinmay 发表于 2/26/2020 10:55:18 PM

赞! 大家赶紧打电话, 写email.,
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Bellissima
我绝望了 大家各自保重吧
夏天的马甲
请问哪个EMAIL 和电话
夏天的马甲
还有到底是给议员还是CDC靠谱?CDC听着很官僚啊。议员还稍微靠谱点
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cheeryinmay
请问哪个EMAIL 和电话
夏天的马甲 发表于 2/26/2020 10:58:27 PM

直接搜啊,找你所在州的议员就行,他们都有官方网站,gov域名的,错不了,我给我们州2个议员都发了
细雨空山
这个重症的病人如果死了,那恐慌更大。大家一定要为自己生命负责,写信給senator.我明天也发。
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life99f
赶快联系自己的议员吧,CDC这么操作和杀人有什么区别?而且是病人,家属,医护一起杀。
细雨空山
版主顶一下这个帖子把,华人要行动起来了。不能坐以待毙了。高危人群啊
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SmileOrange
顶起! 必须行动起来施压,太气人了!
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glorymoon
上twitter发贴,让更多的人知道,发动群众的力量,才能更快起作用
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singlemummy
还有到底是给议员还是CDC靠谱?CDC听着很官僚啊。议员还稍微靠谱点
夏天的马甲 发表于 2/26/2020 10:59:10 PM


怀疑CDC是有政治目的的拖延。 把事情搞大然后显示自己的重要性

美国CDC现在完全在重复中国的错误
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silverblade
回复 1楼cheeryinmay的帖子 顶起。楼主做得很棒
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lighting24
CDC就是想要funding! 严重拖拉失职!
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candidcamera
回复 2楼RCW的帖子 美国现在的检测能力是全世界最弱的,总共才测了不到500例?!而且需要几天时间出结果,搞笑吗?!
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SmileOrange
刚刚给本州senators 发email了。真是气的心脏疼了。一边说要爆发,一边完全不作为,到底要怎样呢
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nevergetlost
难道美国死了一万人的不明流感真的就是新冠?
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bananarama
川普说了没有问题,你们为什么不听?
baoshigem 发表于 2/26/2020 10:59:23 PM

滚你妈的死五毛. 没一个帖子是正常的。全部都是阴阳怪气的调子,打压积极自救的美华。狗日的五毛,想看美华的笑话,你tmm先死全家。
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mott
刚发完email,根据lz mm的email写的,分享如下,欢迎大家使用 Title: Please urge CDC to test more patients for the novel coronavirus! Right now we already have a confirmed case in California that is said to have NO contact with a confirmed case or a travel history to China. But CDC is still requiring a travel history to China in the past 14 days or contact with a confirmed case to test the novel coronavirus unless you are severely ill. This newly confirmed case shows that the virus is already spreading in US community. But this exposure criteria made many patients of 2019-nCoV not receiving the correct diagnose and treatment that they DESERVE. We all know that the anti-virus treatment is more effective when it is given at the early stage, while the effect would be very limited if the condition develops overtime. Remove this epidemiological risk criteria (travel history or close contact with confirmed case) and testing and treating more patients of 2019-nCoV in a timely manner would greatly reduce the risk of community outbreak and economic loss. Please help to voice my family and friends' concern to CDC and save the lives of those not-yet-diagnosed patients! 教程 http://www.senate.gov/states/statesmap.htm 这是senate的网站,按自己所在州点进去,然后点senator名字进入个人主页,找到email me或类似的
戈壁百合
明天就发州议员
顶起,大家自己找自己区的众议员、参议员、州长发邮件打电话!

allenpanda 发表于 2/27/2020 12:19:50 AM


顶!
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nextspring
已经给两个议员发信
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sweettree
支持!!马上行动
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meadowcreek
刚发完email,根据lz mm的email写的,分享如下,欢迎大家使用
Title: Please urge CDC to test more patients for the novel coronavirus!
Right now we already have a confirmed case in California that is said to have NO contact with a confirmed case or a travel history to China. But CDC is still requiring a travel history to China in the past 14 days or contact with a confirmed case to test the novel coronavirus unless you are severely ill.
This newly confirmed case shows that the virus is already spreading in US community. But this exposure criteria made many patients of 2019-nCoV not receiving the correct diagnose and treatment that they DESERVE. We all know that the anti-virus treatment is more effective when it is given at the early stage, while the effect would be very limited if the condition develops overtime.
Remove this epidemiological risk criteria (travel history or close contact with confirmed case) and testing and treating more patients of 2019-nCoV in a timely manner would greatly reduce the risk of community outbreak and economic loss. Please help to voice my family and friends' concern to CDC and save the lives of those not-yet-diagnosed patients!

教程
http://www.senate.gov/states/statesmap.htm
这是senate的网站,按自己所在州点进去,然后点senator名字进入个人主页,找到email me或类似的
mott 发表于 2/27/2020 12:16:47 AM

发了
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glorymoon
刚给Senator写了信
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notfor
顶好帖大家看过来
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GooseMafia
这点真是不明白了!怎么会检测能力那么弱啊
回复2楼 RCW 的帖子 美国现在的检测能力是全世界最弱的,总共才测了不到500例?!而且需要几天时间出结果,搞笑吗?! candidcamera 发表于 2/26/2020 23:25:00
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luffa
写给你所在地的众议员也会有用的,大家稍微改改啊,能加上自己当地情况的更好。
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Heiniu
楼主写这么长?赞一个
晴天若蓝
要发!必须写信!
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QQQ1000
纽约时报刚才爆了这个,希望CDC感觉到压力
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rainsnow
必须顶起来,楼主做得很棒
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sweettree
能否要求CDC的头下台?非蠢即坏
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completefull
ding!
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2020wakening
CDC因为不是从中国来、没有和已知病例接触的,就不给测。可是意大利那个传给50000人的毒王,同样不是从中国来、没有和已知病例接触。CDC不是白痴就是故意的。
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othershore
去哪里可以提议cdc立即下方检测权力?
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guitu
外行问个问题,能直接取样实验室用显微镜看吗?一定要核酸检测?
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Cytochrome
ASM和IDSA已经行动了,今天CNN会有采访,clinical laboratory界已经开始呼吁了
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9wan
上twitter发贴,让更多的人知道,发动群众的力量,才能更快起作用
glorymoon 发表于 2/26/2020 11:11:45 PM
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dmllglm
外行问个问题,能直接取样实验室用显微镜看吗?一定要核酸检测?
guitu 发表于 2/27/2020 9:31:19 AM


显微镜哪里看得出来基因序列?
当然要用核酸检测。
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afv2007
发了两个议员。
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lind43
支持
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TuscanSun
支持!
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Silverfox1
也给议员发信了,我现在觉得CDC是故意的,扩大影响,多拿funding,经济减速,影响选举。
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freedomme
给议员发信了。大家赶快打电话发信。
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xpinger2017
去哪里可以提议cdc立即下方检测权力?
othershore 发表于 2/27/2020 9:21:37 AM

去白宫发个情愿怎么样?
细雨空山

去白宫发个情愿怎么样?

xpinger2017 发表于 2/27/2020 10:24:38 AM

支持啊,这事情没人做真想不通。
绵云茫茫
谢谢LZ和mott的模板,刚才已经发了邮件
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hair
支持!!!
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beefcurtain55

滚你妈的死五毛. 没一个帖子是正常的。全部都是阴阳怪气的调子,打压积极自救的美华。狗日的五毛,想看美华的笑话,你tmm先死全家。

bananarama 发表于 2/26/2020 11:37:26 PM


mm息怒,最近发现这版上五毛突然多了很多。不要脸的狗日五毛祝他们死无葬身之地
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haowawa
mark!
刚发完email,根据lz mm的email写的,分享如下,欢迎大家使用 Title: Please urge CDC to test more patients for the novel coronavirus! Right now we already have a confirmed case in California that is said to have NO contact with a confirmed case or a travel history to China. But CDC is still requiring a travel history to China in the past 14 days or contact with a confirmed case to test the novel coronavirus unless you are severely ill. This newly confirmed case shows that the virus is already spreading in US community. But this exposure criteria made many patients of 2019-nCoV not receiving the correct diagnose and treatment that they DESERVE. We all know that the anti-virus treatment is more effective when it is given at the early stage, while the effect would be very limited if the condition develops overtime. Remove this epidemiological risk criteria (travel history or close contact with confirmed case) and testing and treating more patients of 2019-nCoV in a timely manner would greatly reduce the risk of community outbreak and economic loss. Please help to voice my family and friends' concern to CDC and save the lives of those not-yet-diagnosed patients! 教程 http://www.senate.gov/states/statesmap.htm 这是senate的网站,按自己所在州点进去,然后点senator名字进入个人主页,找到email me或类似的 mott 发表于 2/27/2020 12:16:00 AM
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Dola
直接抄了lz的发email了!
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fffffun
提几个建议: 把“I think..” “my guess is...”都换掉,换成“evidence has shown..” “it is likely/unlikely..”之类的。这些专业问题,没有人会在意你一个外行普通人怎么想。 早检测的意义重大,主要在于早发现需要隔离观察的人,预防大规模社区感染暴发。你强调病人早得到正确的治疗,是没力度的,因为这个病还没有针对性的治疗,即使人民的希望那个药,现在是基于同情用药的原则给药,也不会一发现病毒就给药。医生的治疗主要还是基于临床观察支持性治疗,核酸检测结果对治疗本身影响不大。医护人员的防护标准对于未知病毒感染也是一样的。
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bbsun
我也写信了,两个议员,一个州长
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gelunbu
草菅人命 啥事不干的cdc可恶可耻到极点!大家都要写信, 行动起来!
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Caffeine
我已经打了n轮电话了。 第一次打得早,schumer的人接电话, 发现我不是要impeach的,还特失望。
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smartboy
版主顶一下这个帖子把,华人要行动起来了。不能坐以待毙了。高危人群啊
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minrui
强帖要支持。支持遣散CDC,由私人机构竞争上岗。 美国国家队做东西没有哪个做的好的。创新的都是私企。
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majiahuaren
那些才心灰意冷入了美国籍的,这回是不是该想方设法入日本籍了
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wqiuqiu
发信了 谢谢楼主开帖子
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cheeryinmay
提几个建议:
把“I think..” “my guess is...”都换掉,换成“evidence has shown..” “it is likely/unlikely..”之类的。这些专业问题,没有人会在意你一个外行普通人怎么想。

早检测的意义重大,主要在于早发现需要隔离观察的人,预防大规模社区感染暴发。你强调病人早得到正确的治疗,是没力度的,因为这个病还没有针对性的治疗,即使人民的希望那个药,现在是基于同情用药的原则给药,也不会一发现病毒就给药。医生的治疗主要还是基于临床观察支持性治疗,核酸检测结果对治疗本身影响不大。医护人员的防护标准对于未知病毒感染也是一样的。
fffffun 发表于 2/27/2020 11:08:18 AM

说得挺好,欢迎大家更正完善,各种角度都去游说,总有一个点能打动议员吧
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vita505
议员网站有字数限制,我精简了一下 I am writing to you to raise my concerns of CDC response to the novel coronavirus, including too restricted criteria for order tests (a travel history to China in the past 14 days or contact with a confirmed case) and slowness of test result (test may takes 3-7 days, compared to 2-3 hours in Japan and China). As the 60th confirmed case in the US is said to have NO contact with a confirmed case or a travel history to China, which indicate that the CDC might miss potential cases in the communities. For obvious reasons, I have made a formal request that the CDC provide more rapid results, and people with flu-like symptom, especially when they are negative for flu or other viruses, deserve a 2019-nCoV test so they receive appropriate treatment. I have asked other community leaders to push for the same. Appreciate that you hear my voice and act on my behalf.
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QIQITG
也给议员发信了,我现在觉得CDC是故意的,扩大影响,多拿funding,经济减速,影响选举。
Silverfox1 发表于 2/27/2020 10:03:50 AM

RE 我周圍的美國人都是這麽想的。

已發給兩個議員。
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lind43
同样发了本州2位议员
刚刚给本州senators 发email了。真是气的心脏疼了。一边说要爆发,一边完全不作为,到底要怎样呢 SmileOrange 发表于 2/26/2020 11:28:00 PM
月亮的雨
顶,大家行动起来。
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finchcms
给州里的两位senator都发了信,真的希望大家能重视起来!
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jean_sunny
能不能发一个签名信链接,大家签名然后发出去
晴天若蓝
I am writing to you to raise my concerns of CDC response to the novel coronavirus, including too restricted criteria for order tests (a travel history to China in the past 14 days or contact with a confirmed case) and slowness of test result (test may takes 3-7 days, compared to 2-3 hours in Japan and China). As the 60th confirmed case in the US is said to have NO contact with a confirmed case or a travel history to China, which indicate that the CDC might miss potential cases in the communities. For obvious reasons, I have made a formal request that the CDC provide more rapid results, and people with flu-like symptom, especially when they are negative for flu or other viruses, deserve a 2019-nCoV test so they receive appropriate treatment. I have asked other community leaders to push for the same. Appreciate that you hear my voice and act on my behalf. 天天发!
细雨空山
继续顶
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osmanthus99
昨天就给州参议员写信了。CDC太奇怪了。
公用马甲25
不一定要本州议员的,我给几个共和党议员都发了一遍,准备cover 所有的共和党议员
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laoyin
继续顶到官方改protocol,试剂盒发到本州
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shushan
抛砖引玉吧,其实写得好不好不管了,反正就是要发声,本来还想说更多,但是怕“太长不看”,就写了这些。给CDC洗地的麻烦绕道!我也不想跟你理论,你觉得CDC做得对做得好,也可以让议员去夸啊!你去送锦旗我也不管,但你也别管我!
大家也可以参考19、53、55、65、67、73楼的模版和建议,刚刚看隔壁帖cdc终于肯放宽检测条件了https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2511681&forumpage=1,那么现在我的模版就过时了,但如果有其他concern和诉求,大家完全可以继续通过议员督促cdc!
Title: Please urge CDC to test more patients for the novel coronavirus!
You can find CDC's current test criteria for the 2019-nCoV on their website (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nCoV/hcp/clinical-criteria.html), which requires a travel history to China in the past 14 days or contact with a confirmed case. Even when they say "For severely ill individuals, testing can be considered when exposure history is equivocal (e.g., uncertain travel or exposure, or no known exposure) and another etiology has not been identified", I've been suspecting that such criteria made many patients of 2019-nCoV not receiving the correct diagnose and treatment that they DESERVE. My guess is now confirmed true as the 60th confirmed case in the US is said to have NO contact with a confirmed case or a travel history to China. In other words, he or she got the virus from community exposure. You can reading more details about this patient's case from the link below. CDC refused to give him or her the test although the hospital requested so until last Sunday, even when he or she had been in critical situation since Wed, Feb 19. The description is "the patient had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition”. (https://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/newly-diagnosed-coronavirus-patient-being-treated-at-uc-davis-medical-center/)
I am not saying that everyone should get the test, but people with flu-like symptom, especially when they are negative for flu or other viruses, deserve a 2019-nCoV test so they receive appropriate treatment, and people around them including healthcare providers get appropriate protection. It is pretty clear that the anti-virus treatment is more effective when it is given at the early stage, but the effect would be very limited if the condition develops overtime. Testing and treating more patients of 2019-nCoV in a timely manner may bring some challenge to CDC and the health departments, but it would reduce the risk of community outbreak and economic loss. That's what these government agencies were established for, isn't it?? Please help to voice my family and friends' concern to CDC and save the lives of those not-yet-diagnosed patients!

cheeryinmay 发表于 2/26/2020 10:55:18 PM