意大利首相表态,必要的话会派军队来控制疫情。 (见第二页机器翻译新闻) 摘抄: "these are measures extraordinary that allow us to intervene to prevent individuals who are in the outbreak areas from leaving the Municipality ", as happened today when it was discovered that a man had escaped from Codogno's isolation to go to Montefusco, in the province of Avellino, where he was placed in quarantine with his family. The violation of the provision of entry and exit from the outbreak areas of the Coronavirus (whose radius has been widened) will be controlled "by the forces of the order and if necessary by the armed forces "and those who do not comply with the decree" will be subject to a penalty, according to article 650 of the Criminal Code.
昨天意大利检察官开始调查一号患者处理上是否有失误 今天当地医院开始甩锅 While Italy is facing the emergency situation dictated by the spread of Coronavirus, the circumstances that would have led to the spread of one of the most important outbreaks, that of Lodigiano, are becoming increasingly clear. According to Massimo Lombardo, director of the Lodi healthcare company, the "case 1" patient - the 38-year-old still hospitalized, in stable conditions, at the Pavia hospital - when he first came to the Codogno emergency room , «He came to the emergency room of Codogno Hospital for the first time on February 18without presenting any criteria that could have identified it as a "suspected case" or "probable case" of Coronavirus infection according to the indications of the ministerial circular of 27 January 2020 ». "During the access," writes Lombardo again, "he underwent the necessary checks and therapy; however, he decided to go home despite the prudent proposal of hospitalization. " « On the night between 18 and 19 February », «patient 1» then returned «to the emergency room of the same hospital for a worsening of the symptoms : he is therefore hospitalized in the medical ward where the worsening of the clinical conditions determined the resuscitator intervention on the morning of 20 Februaryand the simultaneous hospitalization in intensive care ». And it is only at this point - after the young man was visited by relatives, friends and many doctors in the medical ward - that "talking to his wife, the resuscitator is informed of a dinner, held in late January, at which Case 1 would have participated and where a friend who had returned from China was present ». "But even the latter fact, according to the protocols of the ministry" - explains Lombardo - "did not classify" Case 1 "as" suspect case "or" probable case "". According to what was rebuilt by the Corriere here, 36 hours passed between the moment when "patient 1" entered the emergency room for the second time (3.12 on 19 February) and the time when the swab was carried out (around 16 on 20 February). In reality, the guidelines of the Ministry of Health of 22 January on who should be subjected to the swab, say that it is also to be treated as a suspect case "a person who experiences an unusual or unexpected clinical course, especially a sudden deterioration despite adequate treatment" . And pneumonia for a healthy and sporty 38-year-old can actually be. But the new version of the ministerial guidelines of January 27 had canceled that sentence and provided for checks only for those who had ties to China. The medical records of patient 1 - as reported by the Ansa agency - have now been seized by the Carabinieri of the Nas of Piacenza. The Public Prosecutor of Lodi has opened a file, currently against unknown persons. https://www.corriere.it/cronache/20_febbraio_26/coronavirus-paziente-1-rifiuto-ricovero-codogno-ricostruzione-d187209e-58bc-11ea-8e3a-a0c8564bd6c7.shtml
Black Death 'Plague doctors' procession in Venice People in Venice have taken part in the annual Plague Doctors procession - a tradition that has taken on new meaning as fears over coronavirus grip northern Italy. Wearing masks and black clocks, party-goers walked through Saint Mark's Square on Tuesday night recalling the Black Death that swept through medieval Europe. On Tuesday Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte called for calm. “It’s time to turn down the tone, we need to stop panic,” he said. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-51628990
Coronavirus in Milan and Turin. In Italy two deaths and 79 infections, 54 only in Lombardy
A 78 year old from Padua and a 75 year old woman in Codogno have died. Positive also a man from Sesto San Giovanni hospitalized at San Raffaele and an inhabitant of Mediglia. Then there is a 40 year old from Piedmont who works in Lombardy. The CoM approves "extraordinary measures". Conte: "Even the army to contain the infection" February 22 - 7:53 am - MILAN Italy experiences the coronavirus nightmare. There are two victims in our country. The first was called Adriano Trevisan, he was 78 years old and died last night shortly after 22.45. The second is a 77-year-old from Casalpusterlengo, linked to the case of Codogno. The epidemic continues to rise: 79 people are affected by the virus, 74 cases of positivity, of which 54 only in Lombardy, 17 in Veneto, 2 in Emilia Romagna, 2 in Lazio (one patient was discharged today) and one in Piedmont. 33 are hospitalized with symptoms, 18 are in intensive care and 11 in home isolation.
THE TWO CASES OF MILAN -
Among the Lombard ones there are also the first two cases of Milan. In the city, as confirmed also by the Governor Fontana, a 78-year-old man from Sesto San Giovanni was admitted to the San Raffaele hospital for five days. It is not yet clear whether it is connected to the Lodigiano infections or not, but the movements and contacts are being reconstructed, including those with doctors and patients during hospitalization. However, the first tests would not have given univocal results, therefore the counter-tests on biological samples are expected. And in the evening the confirmation of a second positivity in Milan also arrived: it is a 71-year-old man from Mediglia, south of the capital, who had come to the emergency room of the Vizzolo Predabissi hospital and then transferred to San Matteo of Pavia. The mayor of Mediglia had already ordered the
Coronavirus, in Lombardy 95 games postponed among amateurs
THE CASE OF TURIN -
In Turin, a 40-year-old man tested positive today: the patient had come into contact with the 38-year-old from Codogno at the Portofino-Santa Margherita Ligure half marathon on February 2, in which both had participated. Not only that, the man works in Cesano Boscone, just outside Milan, and seems to be a colleague of two people currently hospitalized in Lombardy. Certainly, as specified by the Piedmontese Health Department, "he had contacts with a family member of an infected person in Lombardy". To get to the workplace, according to what was communicated, he used the train on numerous occasions. The examination was performed at the Amedeo di Savoia hospital, the regional reference center. The man, married with two children aged 8 and 10, "has a little fever but is in good health", said the governor of Piedmont Alberto Cirio. The family was immediately placed under observation, but the basketball companions with whom the 40-year-old had played on Wednesday were also recalled.
CONTE: "A BILL THAT LIMITS CIRCULATION" -
Such a surge of cases has prompted Prime Minister Conte to convene an Extraordinary Council of Ministers at the headquarters of the Civil Protection of Rome in which a decree law has been approved which obviously aims to "contain contagions by limiting circulation", "these are measures extraordinary that allow us to intervene to prevent individuals who are in the outbreak areas from leaving the Municipality ", as happened today when it was discovered that a man had escaped from Codogno's isolation to go to Montefusco, in the province of Avellino, where he was placed in quarantine with his family. The violation of the provision of entry and exit from the outbreak areas of the Coronavirus (whose radius has been widened) will be controlled "by the forces of the order and if necessary by the armed forces "and those who do not comply with the decree" will be subject to a penalty, according to article 650 of the Criminal Code. These are precautionary measures to protect the local community itself. We trust the citizens with a pact of trust. For a short period, a couple of weeks, some restrictions will not prevent the lives of people who will actually benefit from it. "About 50 thousand Italians will be affected by the measures launched by the government to stem the spread of coronavirus, which he added that "there are no prerequisites there are no prerequisites for requesting the suspension of the Schengen Treaty". These are precautionary measures to protect the local community itself. We trust the citizens with a pact of trust. For a short period, a couple of weeks, some restrictions will not prevent the lives of people who will actually benefit from it. "About 50 thousand Italians will be affected by the measures launched by the government to stem the spread of coronavirus, which he added that "there are no prerequisites there are no prerequisites for requesting the suspension of the Schengen Treaty". These are precautionary measures to protect the local community itself. We trust the citizens with a pact of trust. For a short period, a couple of weeks, some restrictions will not prevent the lives of people who will actually benefit from it. "About 50 thousand Italians will be affected by the measures launched by the government to stem the spread of coronavirus, which he added that "there are no prerequisites there are no prerequisites for requesting the suspension of the Schengen Treaty".
HUNT FOR PATIENT ZERO -
Codogno's patient, Mattia M., is in stable condition and was transferred to the San Matteo hospital in Pavia, while his parents were taken from their home in Castiglione d'Adda this evening and taken with bio-containment ambulance to the Sacco. In the meantime, two cases of positivity were found in Piacenza, all related to the Lodigiano: one is the nurse who had performed the triage on the 38 year old in the Codogno hospital. Here too closed schools, as well as public and private sports facilities, until Tuesday 25 February. And the bishop of Piacenza forbade the exchange of peace during mass. But from the tests on the tests of the Fiorenzuola d'Arda manager who returned from China, who was supposed to have infected the 38-year-old, it emerged that the man, already negative at the first exams, never had the coronavirus. "He didn't develop antibodies," said Deputy Minister of Health Pierpaolo Sileri. So he is not responsible for spreading the virus in the Lodi area and we go back to looking for Patient zero.
THE OUTBREAK - As the contagion is developing, including the Piedmontese case, there is now "confirmation that the area of the lower Lodigiano is the center of an outbreak", as also the Lombard Welfare Councilor Giulio Gallera said, even if a hook is missing between the Lombard and Venetian outbreaks. There are two victims of the coronavirus in Italy: a 78 year old from Veneto and a woman residing in Lombardy. Former owner of a small construction company, Adriano Trevisan of Vo & rsquo; Euganeo died at the Schiavonia hospital (Padua), where he was hospitalized. In Veneto two other people are infected: a friend of the victim, also from Vo & rsquo; Euganeo, and a 67 year old from Dolo, in intensive care. At least 27 cases of infection in Lombardy: cases found in the Lodi area and in Cremona, where schools were closed. The 'index case' of the Lodigiano would be a 38-year-old from Codogno, in stable conditions
THE TWO VICTIMS - In hospital for 15 days, the father of three children, including a former mayor of the country, Trevisan was immediately judged in serious condition by the doctors. He was one of the two infected in Padua, where a 67-year-old countryman of his is also positive, being treated in the infectious disease department of the Padua hospital, which according to the first updates of the morning is in stationary condition. The governor of Veneto Luca Zaia ordered the emptying of the hospital of Schiavonia. In this hospital, some tests were positive among the 600 swabs already performed. The 77-year-old died in Lombardy, Giovanna Carminati, suffered from pathologies previous to the coronavirus, which was diagnosed post-mortem. The woman has already been buried for "sanitation reasons".
THIRD CASE IN VENETO- A third case of coronavirus infection has emerged in Veneto. He is a 67-year-old man from Dolo, now hospitalized in intensive care in Padua. The patient passed first to the emergency room in Mirano (Venice), then to the resuscitation of Dolo (Venice), and following a worsening he was transferred to Padua. "We await the other tests this morning, at the moment we do not yet understand how the infections occurred. We have prepared the maximum alert", said the governor of Veneto Luca Zaia who then reported: "During the night, the Civil Protection of the Veneto set up 12 tents for a maximum of 96 places outside the Schiavonia hospital as a precaution, available to health workers and medical personnel". The governor then arranged the precautionary closure of all the universities of the Veneto for the next week, while guidelines on the Venice Carnival are awaited.
The "bearer" could be a man who has returned from China, who however does not have the virus according to the tests carried out The trip to China, the first symptoms of hospitalization: this is how the virus spread
GALLERA: "IT'S NOT A PANDEMIC"-
"It is not a pandemic situation, for now there are no reasons why measures of any kind are taken in the rest of the region from a health point of view", stated Councilor Gallera before the positive outcome of the patient admitted to San Raffaele emerged. SALA: "MILAN DOES NOT CLOSE"- And speaking of the situation in Milan, the prefect announced that at the moment public services will not be closed, however advising to reduce social gatherings, encourage teleworking where possible and not go to the emergency room except in cases of absolute emergency. All confirmed also by the mayor Sala: "Some citizens ask me to close public offices. So why not the stadiums? Or the companies? Or the shops? What is the difference? We are following this health crisis with responsibility, we do not underestimate nothing, but we don't even want to stir up alarms. Tomorrow morning we will meet again in the Prefecture and we will check what to do. If it is appropriate to take specific measures, we will do it. "
RETURN FROM JAPAN-
The Air Force aircraft with the nineteen Italians from Japan landed at 6.37 at the Pratica di Mare airport. The compatriots, after finishing the visits, will be transferred to the Army Sports Center in Cecchignola. TWO RECOVERED TO SPALLANZANI - Good news from Spallanzani in Rome: two patients, the 29-year-old researcher and the husband of the Chinese couple, recovered, testing negative. The young man was discharged late in the morning. His wife is still in intensive care, but she is also improving.
MATTARELLA AND THE "SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY"- "I trust that sense of responsibility and unity of commitment will ensure the best and most effective response to protect the health of our fellow citizens - said the President of the Republic Sergio Mattarella -. I wish to express gratitude to the doctors, health personnel, researchers, women and to the men of the Civil Protection and the Armed Forces, to those who in these days are working hard, with self-sacrifice and generosity, to face and stem the risk of the spread of the coronavirus. I am close to those who have been affected and to their communities that live moments of understandable anxiety. I address a thought to the two victims and express solidarity with their families ".
THE MAYOR OF CASALPUSTERLENGO- "We'll get over this too ... Come on Casale! Come on Codogno! Come on Castiglione! Come on Lodigiano!": So wrote in a Facebook post Elia Delmiglio, mayor of Casalpusterlengo one of the Municipalities 'closed' for coronavirus. In his post many comments of solidarity: from Bolzano to Ferrara. "We have to stick to the rules of sanitation and sperem in ben" writes someone. "Of course we will overcome everything ... We won against the Lanzichenecchi in Milan in 1600". Then there are those who are convinced that the borders should have been closed while others ask questions about the order to close the activities and how to behave. "The problem - someone underlines - is that if citizens are invited to stay at home, employers do not justify you ... and therefore no one remains at home ...
TRAINS STOPPED IN RISK AREAS - In the meantime, efforts are being made to minimize risks. Following the Lombardy Region ordinance indicating the "ban on public transport", the trains will not stop at the Codogno, Maleo and Casalpusterlengo stations. Trenord knows. In particular, the trains of the Milan-Piacenza line do not stop at Codogno and Casalpusterlengo; Mantua-Cremona-Milan trains will not stop in Codogno. The service is totally suspended on the Pavia-Codogno and Cremona-Codogno lines. Following the ordinance, ticket office activities will also be suspended at the Codogno and Casalpusterlengo stations. The measure will be in force until further notice by the authority.
SCHOOLS CLOSED IN CREMONA - The Municipality of Cremona, in agreement with the Prefecture as a precautionary and preventive measure with respect to the spread of Coronovaris, has arranged for today to close the schools of every order and grade in the city. This was announced by the Cremonese administration, which is also considering the suspension of sporting events and events related to Carnival. "We are in close contact with the health authorities and we do our utmost to protect the health of citizens, the Municipality said.
THE OTHER REGIONS - Friuli Venezia Giulia decreed a state of emergency until 31 July to "face the health risk of Coronavirus, also in consideration of the first cases of contagion in Italy and in particular in the nearby region of Veneto and following the meeting of the Committee Civil Protection operative took place today ". For Campania, the president Vincenzo De Luca, in agreement with the Regional Scholastic Office, invited the directors of the schools to suspend the organization of the school trips for precautionary reasons.
IN THE WORLD - The World Health Organization (WHO) has expressed concern about "what has been reported from Italy and South Korea and how the virus is spreading to other parts of the world". This was stated by WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus during a morning briefing with the African Union. At present, China has reported 75,569 cases to the WHO, including 2,239 deaths. Outside China, there are 1,200 cases in 26 countries. Four victims are reported in Iran, three in Japan, two in Italy, Hong Kong and South Korea. One in Taiwan, the Philippines and France.
SOUTH KOREA IS SHAKING - So much fear also in South Korea where the new infections increase out of all proportion: now the total number of people infected is 433, while two are the dead. The South Korean Center for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC) has announced this. The highest number of cases, as many as 103, were recorded in the North Gyeongsang province. Of the 142 new cases, 92 are related to the Cheongdo Daenam hospital in Northern Gyeongsang province, and 38 to the Shincheonji religious group. The government of South Korea is taking a series of measures to try to contain the spread of the virus, closing public places in the capital and creating "special areas for treatments". At least three cases have been reported in the armed forces. https://www.gazzetta.it/Altri-Mondi/22-02-2020/allarme-coronavirus-morto-veneto-altri-20-casi-accertati-quarantena-obbligatoria-paesi-isolati-3601143393527.shtml?refresh_ce-cp 谷歌翻译
意大利人生活中最重要的就是 咖啡 妈妈 足球 ----- 嗯 这周日伦巴第和威尼托大区任何体育比赛都取消了 https://www.gazzetta.it/Altri-Mondi/22-02-2020/allarme-coronavirus-morto-veneto-altri-20-casi-accertati-quarantena-obbligatoria-paesi-isolati-3601143393527.shtml Even the sport , inevitably, stops for emergency Coronavirus after the first cases of contagion in Italy, Lombardy and Veneto . And tomorrow no sporting event will take place tomorrow in Veneto and Lombardy (starting with the three Serie A games Inter-Sampdoria , Atalanta-Sassuolo and Verona-Cagliari), announced tonight - after the extraordinary CDM - the Minister of Sport Vincenzo Spadafora. In a letter sent to the President of CONI, Giovanni Malagò, Spadadora - on the basis of the decisions made tonight by the government - asked No. 1 of Italian sport "to be interpreter at all the competent sports bodies of the Government's invitation to suspend all sporting events of all levels and disciplines scheduled in the Lombardy and Veneto regions for Sunday 23 February 2020 ».
"these are measures extraordinary that allow us to intervene to prevent individuals who are in the outbreak areas from leaving the Municipality ", as happened today when it was discovered that a man had escaped from Codogno's isolation to go to Montefusco, in the province of Avellino, where he was placed in quarantine with his family. The violation of the provision of entry and exit from the outbreak areas of the Coronavirus (whose radius has been widened) will be controlled "by the forces of the order and if necessary by the armed forces "and those who do not comply with the decree" will be subject to a penalty, according to article 650 of the Criminal Code.
Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte announced the emergency plan late on Saturday as the number of cases rose to 79. The measures were imposed after two Italian citizens were confirmed to have died from the virus. A dozen towns in the northern regions of Lombardy and Veneto have been effectively quarantined under the plan. Around 50,000 people from towns in two northern regions have been asked to stay at home by authorities. Mr Conte said it would now be forbidden to enter or leave the outbreak areas, unless special permission was granted.
"these are measures extraordinary that allow us to intervene to prevent individuals who are in the outbreak areas from leaving the Municipality ", as happened today when it was discovered that a man had escaped from Codogno's isolation to go to Montefusco, in the province of Avellino, where he was placed in quarantine with his family. The violation of the provision of entry and exit from the outbreak areas of the Coronavirus (whose radius has been widened) will be controlled "by the forces of the order and if necessary by the armed forces "and those who do not comply with the decree" will be subject to a penalty, according to article 650 of the Criminal Code.
"these are measures extraordinary that allow us to intervene to prevent individuals who are in the outbreak areas from leaving the Municipality ", as happened today when it was discovered that a man had escaped from Codogno's isolation to go to Montefusco, in the province of Avellino, where he was placed in quarantine with his family. The violation of the provision of entry and exit from the outbreak areas of the Coronavirus (whose radius has been widened) will be controlled "by the forces of the order and if necessary by the armed forces "and those who do not comply with the decree" will be subject to a penalty, according to article 650 of the Criminal Code.
https://tg24.sky.it/cronaca/2020/02/23/coronavirus-italia-austria-treni.html Trains affected by the stop The Austrian railways had announced that travel between Innsbruck and the Brenner (and vice versa) would be interrupted, with the trains stopped at Steinach am Brenner station. The blockade was also to concern the Austrian regional Rex1828 and the Espresso D408 Nice-Moscow. Austrian Interior Minister Karl Nehammer said he was "in close contact with the governor of Tyrol, Guenther Platter on how to proceed". 本来以为意呆够胆小了,没想到奥地利人更是吓得不轻= = 动不动就封关口。。。 据说现在火车恢复通行了。
A seventh person has died in the coronavirus outbreak in northern Italy, news agency ANSA said, while the number of confirmed cases rose to more than 220. ANSA said the latest person to die was an 80-year-old man who had been taken to hospital last week in Lodi after suffering a heart attack. Doctors believe he caught the virus there from another patient. —Reuters
Universities in Milan have been closed and the city's mayor, Giuseppe Sala, said schools would also close their doors while the outbreak continued.
"As a precaution I think that the schools have to be closed in Milan. I will propose to the president of the region to enlarge the precaution to the entire metropolitan city area. It is just a precaution, we don't want to create panic," he said.
Colette Walsh, an English teacher living in the town of Lissone, told the BBC that supermarket shelves were empty as people were panic-buying.
2/24晚更新 目前7死 229确诊。意大利是只要死者感染了新冠就算victim, 和中国统计的有区别。我觉得,他们是想这样既显得咱这届政府果断有力捞民意,又能哭声大点管欧盟要钱,足可以看出人家意大利古老智慧聪明啊。(网友提醒其实除了中国以外都是这么统计的,不管死因,有感染病毒就算流感)意大利不愧是隔离,解剖,现代医学发源地。 https://www.corriere.it/cronache/20_febbraio_24/coronavirus-italia-ultime-notizie-oggi-nord-23035e06-56ce-11ea-b89d-a5ca249e9e1e.shtml 今天最大的进展是发现了一个有可能的把病毒从伦巴底大区散播到维尼托大区的关键传播者:一个为出版自己写的有机农业书奔波的农民,他来往疫情严峻的两处而且是酒吧常客= =
2/23下午更新 现在意大利有3例死亡了, 149确诊。“An elderly cancer patient became the third person who tested positive for the virus to die since Friday in the country”, with 149 confirmed cases nationwide.” (https://www.thejournal.ie/italy-coronavirus-football-5018422-Feb2020/)
意大利的文化民风导致人民对瘟疫特别敏感,特别push政府采取强硬措施。所以意大利政党这几年也是很有竞选压力,所以特别早就制定了plan, 然后做好了准备。伦巴第大区爆发之后处理的非常果断。这三例死亡都是老年人,也有基础病,换到武汉就顶多一个“疑似”或者死在家里,所以算不到确诊。这次意大利的例子真实展示了病毒到底有多厉害。意大利第二例伦巴第大区过世的老年女性,是在死后才通过尸检确诊的。
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1.意大利最先确诊的是罗马的一对中国旅客。全副武装的“登月部队”出现在罗马市中心闹市区的旅店前,于是所有人都知道了这件事情。紧接着首相宣布停止所有中国直飞飞机。然并卵,意大利属于申根区,并没有“硬”边境。尤其是现在隧道通车后从苏黎世到达米兰只需要短短四五个小时,沿着地中海从尼斯到热内亚也是很方便的。东边的斯洛文尼亚暂时risk还小些。
2. 虽然没有硬边境,但是在过境的火车/路口,如果要求检查你的护照/ID,你还是要出示的。
意大利法律规定所有外国人出行需携带护照在身上。当然大家都知道意大利扒手的厉害。所以很多人都是把护照留在旅店,携带copy在身上。。。
3 第一例非中国人确诊出现在伦巴第大区。伦巴第大区就是米兰那个大区。这个强壮爱运动的年轻男子不知怎么感染了新冠,病情严重。他的一个朋友在一月底从中国返回意大利,并和他吃个了饭。一度大家怀疑这个朋友是传染源。但这个人并没有检测出病毒。
4. 第一例死亡是威尼托大区帕多瓦Padova的一个老爷爷。威尼托大区最有名的地方就是威尼斯。他有三个子女,一个女儿还是个市长。他生活在Padova的郊区。还不知道怎么染上的病毒。
Padova是威尼托大区的一个很有名的古城。这地方有一个礼拜堂,里面的壁画非常珍贵算“文艺复兴的序曲“,相当于意大利的敦煌莫高窟。
Padova也是大学城。Padova大学是世界上最古老的大学之一,也是现代解剖学乃至现代医学的发源地。帕多瓦大学有世界上第一个解剖剧院,就是下面一个解剖台,旁边围着好几层人观看的地方。
介绍这个就是强调这里真的不是缺医少药,落后无知的地方。
帕多瓦的医学是很厉害的:“伽利略在這裡教授數學,並傳播其新的定量方法,後者亦對醫學影響深遠。William Harvey —— 全面闡明人類血液循環系統的第一人 —— 曾在這裡讀醫;Santorio Santorio 教授發明了溫度計;解剖學教授 Giovanni Battista Morgagni 在 18 世紀建立了現代解剖病理學;全球首次人類心臟移植手術亦是在 1985 年於帕多瓦進行。”
https://www.cup.com.hk/2019/02/14/italy-padua-birthplace-modern-medicine/
5 第二例死亡是伦巴第大区的一个女性。据传第3条那个年轻男患者去医院就诊的时候,这个女性也去了医院。怀疑是这么在医院交叉感染上的。
6 意大利紧急封锁了几个村庄。目前已经检测出其他几个居民阳性。高位区域的火车停运,学校紧急停课,足球比赛取消。没错,足球赛都取消了!
主教把Mass 天主教弥撒时候那个喝口酒吃个饼,就是所说的领圣体,都紧急。。叫停了。。。
有人抬杠说啥只有中国用封城的手段bla bla。现在来了,人家意大利也封城了。。。当然你可以继续抬杠说意大利封的地方都是郊区小town,不是大城市。
烈性传染病面前控制传染源是第一!没有搞清楚传染方式之前,封城,是必要的。当然封城必须保障民生基础供应。武汉的问题是保障做的不好,不是封城的决定不对。不对的是,封的太晚。
意大利首相表态,必要的话会派军队来控制疫情。 (见第二页机器翻译新闻)
摘抄:
"these are measures extraordinary that allow us to intervene to prevent individuals who are in the outbreak areas from leaving the Municipality ", as happened today when it was discovered that a man had escaped from Codogno's isolation to go to Montefusco, in the province of Avellino, where he was placed in quarantine with his family. The violation of the provision of entry and exit from the outbreak areas of the Coronavirus (whose radius has been widened) will be controlled "by the forces of the order and if necessary by the armed forces "and those who do not comply with the decree" will be subject to a penalty, according to article 650 of the Criminal Code.
7 伦巴第,威尼托都是非常富裕,居民生活条件优秀的地方。这两个大区加上都灵所在的皮埃蒙特大区,是意大利的经济龙头。经济水平差不多相当于奥地利。得益于奥匈帝国的好底子,这里的文化水平也非常高. 不要和意大利南方的混为一谈。。。所以现在整个欧洲人心惶惶,这么发达的地方都可以治不好,别的地方可。。。
8 最新消息 Turin都灵也有一个男子确诊了。他和3中的运动健将确诊男子 在几天前的马拉松中接触过。 好了。。。意大利北方基本都有了。。。
9 想了解信息的可以看这个地方https://www.gazzetta.it/Altri-Mondi/22-02-2020/allarme-coronavirus-morto-veneto-altri-20-casi-accertati-quarantena-obbligatoria-paesi-isolati-3601143393527.shtml?refresh_ce-cp
里面说得可详细了。我会在后面的楼贴一个英文翻译
意大利北方到现在还是很有自治的传统,重视城市这个单位,每个地方的市长表态都是很重要的。。。
10 据说伦巴第大区的所有酒吧以及类似娱乐场所都不允许晚上开门了。。。堪称宵禁。。。米兰可是年轻人们很high的一个地方。
11 说起来很high这个事情。前几天意呆男人的某个采访视频火了。
记者问:现在有人确诊了你们慌么?
呆众:不慌,我们喝这个酒来抵抗它!
目测桌子上每人一大杯Aperol or Campari 鸡尾酒。唔。这东西就是意大利的gin&tonic. (Aperol原产于Padova 夏季超级流行)
说起来gin&tonic是从药酒来的。gin是杜松子酒,成分有退烧止痛的作用。tonic是奎宁水,说起来奎宁类的的确确有治疗新冠病毒的效果,比如现在国内吃的氯喹。大家可以喝一些。。。
---- 说些乱七八糟的---
瘟疫对于欧洲人民来说是刻在基因里,写在抗体里,听在传说里,看在教堂里,深入到文化的一个记忆。每个城市都有什么黑死病纪念柱,黑死病传说,各种瘟疫的鬼故事。读书有十日谈,喝酒有gin&tonic, 什么人骨教堂,玛丽金小巷,威尼斯的鸟嘴面具,etc...
黑死病对于意大利人民来说尤为沉重深刻。原因也不难理解,黑死病肆虐的时候亚平宁半岛是欧洲经济文化中心。繁荣的城市和贸易让他们受灾更深,文化繁荣让他们留下更多的记录。
欧洲的恐怖故事氛围,传统上大概就分 瘟疫黑死病类 和 宗教裁判所类两种... 嗯 还有匈牙利吸血鬼 = =
PS: 武汉1月底最混乱的时候,有些殡仪馆车搬运尸袋的视频。Twitter网友看到,直接就是一句 “Bring out your dead" . 这就是传说中黑死病时期,每天早上都有收尸的人拉着小车来走街串巷收死人的吆喝口号。
---这是前话---
1. 有人说什么中国才会做封城这种事情。错❌。封城是西方社会,尤其是欧洲搞出来的,最有名的就是米兰通过封城逃过黑死病劫难的故事。
2. 如果了解这些故事,就会理解为什么烈性传染病的尸体,遗物必须焚烧处理。
3. 米兰一直是欧洲的重要交通枢纽,北上过阿尔卑斯山到达日耳曼德意志区域,向西区萨伏依/法国,向南亚平宁,向东去东欧巴尔干。多战之地。城墙修的厚实。黑死病来袭的时候,城里还是出现了三家人感染黑死病。米兰大主教下令紧闭城门,只留一扇小门供极少人通行。对于染病的家庭,直接修了一堵墙把他们围了进去自生自灭。
4. 威尼斯帝国当年是地中海的霸主,贸易是支柱。威尼斯不舍得停止通航。于是要求所有船只必须连人带船隔离40天之后才可以下人卸货。当时的人已经意识到人体是传染源。但万万没想到黑死病可以通过老鼠和跳蚤传播。于是,某一只船上的老鼠跑了下来。威尼斯沦陷。有人说威尼斯死了一半人口,也有的说是三分之二。人口密集的威尼斯变成了死亡之城,人们把尸体丢弃到附近的一个岛上,到了后来连贵族也得不到一个墓碑只是草草丢上去了事。至今,你仍能在那里捡到各种各样的骨头。
每年2月威尼斯狂欢节里会有很多人装扮成“瘟疫医生”的形象,带上鸟嘴面具。鸟嘴面具就是当时医生的N95口罩,长长的鸟嘴里面赛上各种草药香料来“过滤”空气。
威尼斯帝国当年掌管马耳他岛,后来在马耳他岛建立了世界上第一个专业“隔离岛”用于隔离来往的水手。隔离岛Lazaretto就是典型威尼斯话。Quarantine隔离这个词也来自于威尼斯话的40.
恩,因为新冠突然爆发,威尼斯提前两天结束了狂欢节。。。
5 每个意大利人都学过薄伽丘十日谈。嗯,就是讲1348年佛罗伦萨黑死病的时候大家逃到别墅躲避瘟疫时候讲的故事。。。
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说一点我想说的
从1月17号歪哥发表著名主题之后,我就在refresh我的这些看到过的记忆。
瘟疫很可怕,更可怕的是如果瘟疫蔓延之后,社会会失控。委婉的说就是人道主义灾难。
瘟疫是可怕的,你看不到它,它无孔不入。这比枪炮都可怕。
霍乱虽然拉稀痛苦,但是病程短,一般来说一天就死了。
黑死病一般三天,浑身出现血块,变黑,死状痛苦。
这次的新冠,如果说是心脏猝死的还算不太遭罪,如果最后呼吸困难,那真是非常痛苦。
我们看到曾经的瘟疫来临的时候人类会做什么
1 用砖把疫情爆发点砌起来。自生自灭。
2 把病人赶到废弃的居住点,提供有限的药物。
3 发现疫情用火烧掉爆发点
4 无人维持秩序,可以维持的人也死了,逃了。于是社会失去秩序。
--- 我跟父母说这些的时候,他们说,这些都是古代了,现在有现代医学,有药,有blablabla...
我就认真的问一句,
你为什么觉得,现在比过去对待病毒的办法更有效?你觉得提高了多少?
你为什么觉得,现在真的比过去强了那么多?100年后的人看待2020年的种种,会不会和我们看这些“古代瘟疫”的感受一样?
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12 意大利疫情又名“一个意大利男人的社交生活”一个优秀的联合利华员工上班期间辛勤的工作
忙碌完一天跟同事打牙祭
工作之余会踢踢足球
坚持锻炼身体,隔壁小镇跑步比赛,完成马拉松挑战自我。
发现疫情严重,参加红十字会训练提升自己
偶尔到夜店放纵一下。
一不小心变成了意大利一号病人。。。
韩国邪教徒吃我十字架,看看谁才是地球最强
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13 2/23 奥地利真是牢记黑死病教训,表现得比意大利还胆小。。。今天一辆从威尼斯桑塔露琪亚站去慕尼黑中央火车站的EuroCity火车上了新闻头条。两个德国女乘客出现了发烧症状,并在经过维罗纳的时候下车了。火车在意奥边境通过Brenner山口时,奥地利人听说了这个事情,吓尿了,叫车在意大利侧待命。。。后面的另一个EuroCity经过的时候也被拦了下来。几个小时过后,排除了新冠嫌疑,奥地利人才重新开放Brenner山口。。。
这里科普下地理。意大利北面是阿尔卑斯山,想翻过山的话,比较热门的一条路就是走Brenner山口。
维罗纳出发向北,经过Brenner山口进入奥地利,经过因斯布鲁克跨国因河,再向北可进入德国,到达慕尼黑。
一站的时候意大利对抗奥匈帝国,在这些山头里面打了好几年游击战。。。堪称游击战鼻祖。。。
🔥 最新回帖
我当然是女的啊。。。。。。。
说明我的知识水平提高了呗
🛋️ 沙发板凳
其实中国瘟疫的历史也很多很可怕
但是中国朝代改朝换代的比较多,故事更多。
欧洲很少改朝换代,打仗也是今天打仗明天种地这种规模,大仗没几次,所以瘟疫的故事就鹤立鸡群了。。。
内蒙古隔段时间就出一次鼠疫
每次鼠疫都封城
只不过新闻不够吸引眼球你们看不到而已
上次甘肃鼠疫也是封城
甲级流行病 = 封城 这是常识谢谢。。。
A 78 year old from Padua and a 75 year old woman in Codogno have died. Positive also a man from Sesto San Giovanni hospitalized at San Raffaele and an inhabitant of Mediglia. Then there is a 40 year old from Piedmont who works in Lombardy. The CoM approves "extraordinary measures". Conte: "Even the army to contain the infection"
February 22 - 7:53 am - MILAN
Italy experiences the coronavirus nightmare. There are two victims in our country. The first was called Adriano Trevisan, he was 78 years old and died last night shortly after 22.45. The second is a 77-year-old from Casalpusterlengo, linked to the case of Codogno. The epidemic continues to rise: 79 people are affected by the virus, 74 cases of positivity, of which 54 only in Lombardy, 17 in Veneto, 2 in Emilia Romagna, 2 in Lazio (one patient was discharged today) and one in Piedmont. 33 are hospitalized with symptoms, 18 are in intensive care and 11 in home isolation.
THE TWO CASES OF MILAN -
Among the Lombard ones there are also the first two cases of Milan. In the city, as confirmed also by the Governor Fontana, a 78-year-old man from Sesto San Giovanni was admitted to the San Raffaele hospital for five days. It is not yet clear whether it is connected to the Lodigiano infections or not, but the movements and contacts are being reconstructed, including those with doctors and patients during hospitalization. However, the first tests would not have given univocal results, therefore the counter-tests on biological samples are expected. And in the evening the confirmation of a second positivity in Milan also arrived: it is a 71-year-old man from Mediglia, south of the capital, who had come to the emergency room of the Vizzolo Predabissi hospital and then transferred to San Matteo of Pavia. The mayor of Mediglia had already ordered the
Coronavirus, in Lombardy 95 games postponed among amateurs
THE CASE OF TURIN -
In Turin, a 40-year-old man tested positive today: the patient had come into contact with the 38-year-old from Codogno at the Portofino-Santa Margherita Ligure half marathon on February 2, in which both had participated. Not only that, the man works in Cesano Boscone, just outside Milan, and seems to be a colleague of two people currently hospitalized in Lombardy. Certainly, as specified by the Piedmontese Health Department, "he had contacts with a family member of an infected person in Lombardy". To get to the workplace, according to what was communicated, he used the train on numerous occasions. The examination was performed at the Amedeo di Savoia hospital, the regional reference center. The man, married with two children aged 8 and 10, "has a little fever but is in good health", said the governor of Piedmont Alberto Cirio. The family was immediately placed under observation, but the basketball companions with whom the 40-year-old had played on Wednesday were also recalled.
CONTE: "A BILL THAT LIMITS CIRCULATION" -
Such a surge of cases has prompted Prime Minister Conte to convene an Extraordinary Council of Ministers at the headquarters of the Civil Protection of Rome in which a decree law has been approved which obviously aims to "contain contagions by limiting circulation", "these are measures extraordinary that allow us to intervene to prevent individuals who are in the outbreak areas from leaving the Municipality ", as happened today when it was discovered that a man had escaped from Codogno's isolation to go to Montefusco, in the province of Avellino, where he was placed in quarantine with his family. The violation of the provision of entry and exit from the outbreak areas of the Coronavirus (whose radius has been widened) will be controlled "by the forces of the order and if necessary by the armed forces "and those who do not comply with the decree" will be subject to a penalty, according to article 650 of the Criminal Code. These are precautionary measures to protect the local community itself. We trust the citizens with a pact of trust. For a short period, a couple of weeks, some restrictions will not prevent the lives of people who will actually benefit from it. "About 50 thousand Italians will be affected by the measures launched by the government to stem the spread of coronavirus, which he added that "there are no prerequisites there are no prerequisites for requesting the suspension of the Schengen Treaty". These are precautionary measures to protect the local community itself. We trust the citizens with a pact of trust. For a short period, a couple of weeks, some restrictions will not prevent the lives of people who will actually benefit from it. "About 50 thousand Italians will be affected by the measures launched by the government to stem the spread of coronavirus, which he added that "there are no prerequisites there are no prerequisites for requesting the suspension of the Schengen Treaty". These are precautionary measures to protect the local community itself. We trust the citizens with a pact of trust. For a short period, a couple of weeks, some restrictions will not prevent the lives of people who will actually benefit from it. "About 50 thousand Italians will be affected by the measures launched by the government to stem the spread of coronavirus, which he added that "there are no prerequisites there are no prerequisites for requesting the suspension of the Schengen Treaty".
HUNT FOR PATIENT ZERO -
Codogno's patient, Mattia M., is in stable condition and was transferred to the San Matteo hospital in Pavia, while his parents were taken from their home in Castiglione d'Adda this evening and taken with bio-containment ambulance to the Sacco. In the meantime, two cases of positivity were found in Piacenza, all related to the Lodigiano: one is the nurse who had performed the triage on the 38 year old in the Codogno hospital. Here too closed schools, as well as public and private sports facilities, until Tuesday 25 February. And the bishop of Piacenza forbade the exchange of peace during mass. But from the tests on the tests of the Fiorenzuola d'Arda manager who returned from China, who was supposed to have infected the 38-year-old, it emerged that the man, already negative at the first exams, never had the coronavirus. "He didn't develop antibodies," said Deputy Minister of Health Pierpaolo Sileri. So he is not responsible for spreading the virus in the Lodi area and we go back to looking for Patient zero.
THE OUTBREAK -
As the contagion is developing, including the Piedmontese case, there is now "confirmation that the area of the lower Lodigiano is the center of an outbreak", as also the Lombard Welfare Councilor Giulio Gallera said, even if a hook is missing between the Lombard and Venetian outbreaks.
There are two victims of the coronavirus in Italy: a 78 year old from Veneto and a woman residing in Lombardy. Former owner of a small construction company, Adriano Trevisan of Vo & rsquo; Euganeo died at the Schiavonia hospital (Padua), where he was hospitalized. In Veneto two other people are infected: a friend of the victim, also from Vo & rsquo; Euganeo, and a 67 year old from Dolo, in intensive care. At least 27 cases of infection in Lombardy: cases found in the Lodi area and in Cremona, where schools were closed. The 'index case' of the Lodigiano would be a 38-year-old from Codogno, in stable conditions
THE TWO VICTIMS -
In hospital for 15 days, the father of three children, including a former mayor of the country, Trevisan was immediately judged in serious condition by the doctors. He was one of the two infected in Padua, where a 67-year-old countryman of his is also positive, being treated in the infectious disease department of the Padua hospital, which according to the first updates of the morning is in stationary condition. The governor of Veneto Luca Zaia ordered the emptying of the hospital of Schiavonia. In this hospital, some tests were positive among the 600 swabs already performed. The 77-year-old died in Lombardy, Giovanna Carminati, suffered from pathologies previous to the coronavirus, which was diagnosed post-mortem. The woman has already been buried for "sanitation reasons".
THIRD CASE IN VENETO-
A third case of coronavirus infection has emerged in Veneto. He is a 67-year-old man from Dolo, now hospitalized in intensive care in Padua. The patient passed first to the emergency room in Mirano (Venice), then to the resuscitation of Dolo (Venice), and following a worsening he was transferred to Padua. "We await the other tests this morning, at the moment we do not yet understand how the infections occurred. We have prepared the maximum alert", said the governor of Veneto Luca Zaia who then reported: "During the night, the Civil Protection of the Veneto set up 12 tents for a maximum of 96 places outside the Schiavonia hospital as a precaution, available to health workers and medical personnel". The governor then arranged the precautionary closure of all the universities of the Veneto for the next week, while guidelines on the Venice Carnival are awaited.
The "bearer" could be a man who has returned from China, who however does not have the virus according to the tests carried out
The trip to China, the first symptoms of hospitalization: this is how the virus spread
GALLERA: "IT'S NOT A PANDEMIC"-
"It is not a pandemic situation, for now there are no reasons why measures of any kind are taken in the rest of the region from a health point of view", stated Councilor Gallera before the positive outcome of the patient admitted to San Raffaele emerged.
SALA: "MILAN DOES NOT CLOSE"- And speaking of the situation in Milan, the prefect announced that at the moment public services will not be closed, however advising to reduce social gatherings, encourage teleworking where possible and not go to the emergency room except in cases of absolute emergency. All confirmed also by the mayor Sala: "Some citizens ask me to close public offices. So why not the stadiums? Or the companies? Or the shops? What is the difference? We are following this health crisis with responsibility, we do not underestimate nothing, but we don't even want to stir up alarms. Tomorrow morning we will meet again in the Prefecture and we will check what to do. If it is appropriate to take specific measures, we will do it. "
RETURN FROM JAPAN-
The Air Force aircraft with the nineteen Italians from Japan landed at 6.37 at the Pratica di Mare airport. The compatriots, after finishing the visits, will be transferred to the Army Sports Center in Cecchignola.
TWO RECOVERED TO SPALLANZANI - Good news from Spallanzani in Rome: two patients, the 29-year-old researcher and the husband of the Chinese couple, recovered, testing negative. The young man was discharged late in the morning. His wife is still in intensive care, but she is also improving.
MATTARELLA AND THE "SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY"-
"I trust that sense of responsibility and unity of commitment will ensure the best and most effective response to protect the health of our fellow citizens - said the President of the Republic Sergio Mattarella -. I wish to express gratitude to the doctors, health personnel, researchers, women and to the men of the Civil Protection and the Armed Forces, to those who in these days are working hard, with self-sacrifice and generosity, to face and stem the risk of the spread of the coronavirus. I am close to those who have been affected and to their communities that live moments of understandable anxiety. I address a thought to the two victims and express solidarity with their families ".
THE MAYOR OF CASALPUSTERLENGO-
"We'll get over this too ... Come on Casale! Come on Codogno! Come on Castiglione! Come on Lodigiano!": So wrote in a Facebook post Elia Delmiglio, mayor of Casalpusterlengo one of the Municipalities 'closed' for coronavirus. In his post many comments of solidarity: from Bolzano to Ferrara. "We have to stick to the rules of sanitation and sperem in ben" writes someone. "Of course we will overcome everything ... We won against the Lanzichenecchi in Milan in 1600". Then there are those who are convinced that the borders should have been closed while others ask questions about the order to close the activities and how to behave. "The problem - someone underlines - is that if citizens are invited to stay at home, employers do not justify you ... and therefore no one remains at home ...
TRAINS STOPPED IN RISK AREAS -
In the meantime, efforts are being made to minimize risks. Following the Lombardy Region ordinance indicating the "ban on public transport", the trains will not stop at the Codogno, Maleo and Casalpusterlengo stations. Trenord knows. In particular, the trains of the Milan-Piacenza line do not stop at Codogno and Casalpusterlengo; Mantua-Cremona-Milan trains will not stop in Codogno. The service is totally suspended on the Pavia-Codogno and Cremona-Codogno lines. Following the ordinance, ticket office activities will also be suspended at the Codogno and Casalpusterlengo stations. The measure will be in force until further notice by the authority.
SCHOOLS CLOSED IN CREMONA -
The Municipality of Cremona, in agreement with the Prefecture as a precautionary and preventive measure with respect to the spread of Coronovaris, has arranged for today to close the schools of every order and grade in the city. This was announced by the Cremonese administration, which is also considering the suspension of sporting events and events related to Carnival. "We are in close contact with the health authorities and we do our utmost to protect the health of citizens, the Municipality said.
THE OTHER REGIONS -
Friuli Venezia Giulia decreed a state of emergency until 31 July to "face the health risk of Coronavirus, also in consideration of the first cases of contagion in Italy and in particular in the nearby region of Veneto and following the meeting of the Committee Civil Protection operative took place today ". For Campania, the president Vincenzo De Luca, in agreement with the Regional Scholastic Office, invited the directors of the schools to suspend the organization of the school trips for precautionary reasons.
IN THE WORLD -
The World Health Organization (WHO) has expressed concern about "what has been reported from Italy and South Korea and how the virus is spreading to other parts of the world". This was stated by WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus during a morning briefing with the African Union. At present, China has reported 75,569 cases to the WHO, including 2,239 deaths. Outside China, there are 1,200 cases in 26 countries. Four victims are reported in Iran, three in Japan, two in Italy, Hong Kong and South Korea. One in Taiwan, the Philippines and France.
SOUTH KOREA IS SHAKING -
So much fear also in South Korea where the new infections increase out of all proportion: now the total number of people infected is 433, while two are the dead. The South Korean Center for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC) has announced this. The highest number of cases, as many as 103, were recorded in the North Gyeongsang province. Of the 142 new cases, 92 are related to the Cheongdo Daenam hospital in Northern Gyeongsang province, and 38 to the Shincheonji religious group. The government of South Korea is taking a series of measures to try to contain the spread of the virus, closing public places in the capital and creating "special areas for treatments". At least three cases have been reported in the armed forces.
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这次中共处理武汉肺炎的水平来看 要人权没人权 要医疗没医疗 和几百年前也没差什么 最近还一直在建的方舱和一百年前的西班牙流感年代一摸一样
都灵那边总是闹独立 主要分歧是咱自己闹 还是拉上伦巴第一起闹。。。。
伦巴第也总觉得亏了
威尼托更是了,百姓无不怀念威尼斯帝国。。,
政府紧张啊 怕啊 一个处理不好要命啊
而且人家那是民众有强烈的主观愿望希望采取强制手段。。。
你说的对
古代更狠 有时候瘟疫来了 有病的家里不管活得死的一起一屋子烧掉。。。。。
你看最近的报道
刚开始么 是有人大骂什么强制火化 怎么不给见一面
一周之后就是武汉的人抱怨人都死了半天了,社区如果再不来家里收走尸体,就给社区抬过去。。。还有把死者衣服用品扔到外面的。。。
人啊 适应能力还是很强的
到今天,全世界对待瘟疫只能靠隔离,等育苗根本来不及。
内蒙古和甘肃不还是中国吗?封城是不人道的粗暴手段,除了中世纪的意大利, 现代国家还有过谁?
隔离感染者和健康者是对的。封城不一样,封城是不人道的隔离方式,因为它根本不区分感染了的和没感染的,把几百万没有感染的人剥夺出城的权利,限制在疫区,而疫区当时里面的条件根本不具备救治感染者和防护被感染者,从而造成了大量冤死的市民。
欧洲对传染病有刻苦铭心的记忆。当年的黑死病,也就是鼠疫,在欧洲肆虐3个多世纪,造成5000万+人死亡。
大哥。。。你看一楼。。。。人家意大利现在就封城了啊。。。。2020.。。。。。。。。。。
大姐,你自己看看清楚,意大利封城跟中国封武汉一样吗?是不许里面的人出来吗?你把第一页里不让疫区人出城的那句找出来我看看?
"these are measures extraordinary that allow us to intervene to prevent individuals who are in the outbreak areas from leaving the Municipality ", as happened today when it was discovered that a man had escaped from Codogno's isolation to go to Montefusco, in the province of Avellino, where he was placed in quarantine with his family. The violation of the provision of entry and exit from the outbreak areas of the Coronavirus (whose radius has been widened) will be controlled "by the forces of the order and if necessary by the armed forces "and those who do not comply with the decree" will be subject to a penalty, according to article 650 of the Criminal Code.
我怕上面那个机器翻译意大利语的看着太累 这里有个BBC的
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51602007
Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte announced the emergency plan late on Saturday as the number of cases rose to 79. The measures were imposed after two Italian citizens were confirmed to have died from the virus. A dozen towns in the northern regions of Lombardy and Veneto have been effectively quarantined under the plan. Around 50,000 people from towns in two northern regions have been asked to stay at home by authorities. Mr Conte said it would now be forbidden to enter or leave the outbreak areas, unless special permission was granted.
Conte 就是首相
人家又看不懂英文
我特别痛恨第一条。 病毒又不是隐瞒就能消失的,典型的掩耳盗铃。以为自己不说,问题就会消失。这是怎样的智障做出来的决策。这种智障怎么能执政,这害了千千万万的人。 这种人就该判刑。
现实很骨感,瘟疫传播快的,没办法区分感染没感染,只能按发病区封。中国这次封晚了,才祸害了全世界。
然而很多国家都在 repeat 第一条
请给出这段话是意大利首相说的新闻链接。
是啊 正是因为第一条,之后一个接一个的昏招,就一点都不稀奇了。
可是也没放任春运,组织万人宴,计划春节期间发放免费门票鼓励大家游园呀。
https://c.m.163.com/news/a/F3BMS7LL0525T6NL.html?spss=newsapp&spsw=1
。。。你把我每层楼连起来看。。。第一楼第一部分第九条 我第二页18楼都贴了全篇了加链接。。。。还有BBC。。。不要做鸵鸟好么。。。或者你谷歌搜一下意大利首相现在全世界都报道了。。。。。。
做鸵鸟真的好么orz...
早期对疫情总存在侥幸心理,所以版上才不断有人问定好的vacation还要不要去。日本也还在继续跑马,新加坡也还在各种庆祝活动。
小地方的嘉年华已经取消了,威尼斯的估计也快了。
现在有更新么? 最新怎么样了。
还有人说最危险的地方就是最安全的地方。
这里的第一个确诊病人是一名38岁男子。 这名男子在洛迪(Lodi)的联合利华公司上班,他曾因“流感”不适去看过急诊,但因为他从未去过中国,医生只做了抗生素治疗,并未对他进行深入检查。 随后,这名男子因为呼吸衰竭前往当地医院急诊,医生们这次才得知他之前曾跟一名中国回来的朋友一起吃饭,于是对他进行了核酸检测,最终发现他感染了新冠肺炎。 诡异的是,他的那名中国回来的朋友并没有任何症状,核酸检测也显示阴性!
这名38岁男子被感染后,又叫了家庭医生上门看病,又去了医院急诊,在病情加重之前,还曾去跑过两次步,踢过一次足球,去了至少3家餐厅吃饭,并且还参加了公司的会议。 现在,他怀孕8个月的妻子已经被确诊感染,接触过他的医护人员,同院的病人,他的亲戚朋友,以及经常出入同一家酒吧的顾客也有不少中招。 他的一名球友被他感染,这名球友又是一家酒吧老板的儿子,于是他又传染了这家酒吧的3个常客。 现在,去过他家的家庭医生,以及跟他在工作上有过接触的120人都还在等待检测结果。
法国也在等靴子掉下来啊,卫生部长自己说的,下一个超级感染者不知在哪。。。
不知道是这个还是意大利查的全面。
另外很希望那个38岁的运动员康复。否则咱们普通人更焦虑了。
在信息不完全确定的时候封城,封城之后后勤跟不上,基层执行许多的非人性化。甚至说,以后人类是否需要和这个病长期共存都是未知。所以,恐怕没有人能说封城的决定是绝对正确的,尤其是在牺牲了城里许多无辜百姓的生活前提下。
对的 太蹊跷了 一号病人那个运动健将 还有第一个死者老头 无法找到传染源 也是意大利采取如此强硬手段的原因
真是奇怪
意甲也停了。
意大利人现在的心态是求封城 而不是反对封城。。。历史教训太惨烈了
不过意大利每个小村子人口少 我看媒体的意思是全部run一遍如果能找到未知的传染源 应该可以很快解封
"As a precaution I think that the schools have to be closed in Milan. I will propose to the president of the region to enlarge the precaution to the entire metropolitan city area. It is just a precaution, we don't want to create panic," he said.
Colette Walsh, an English teacher living in the town of Lissone, told the BBC that supermarket shelves were empty as people were panic-buying.
那医学人员是不是应该好好研究一下跟他一起去吃饭的从中国回来的朋友为什么显示阴性呢