2015年美国有174,000起火烧车的事件。几乎都是油车。以每行驶十亿麦来算,油车vs特私拉的起火是55fires/billion miles vs. 5fires/billion miles。
建议大家要下任何结论之前,先去实际了解一下真正的状况是什么。 azenis 发表于 1/19/2020 11:20:51 AM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2493668&postid=82438563#82438563][img][/img][/url]
你说的说下面这个吧? 有没有注意到,那么多起火,死伤是多少?特斯拉是一烧就没得逃。另外你知道美国每年的事故是多少吗? 撞车后起火率不到0.1% 。 Each year, from 2014 to 2016, an estimated 171,500 highway vehicle fires occurred in the United States, resulting in an annual average of 345 deaths; 1,300 injuries; and $1.1 billion in property loss. 1 These highway vehicle fires accounted for 13 percent of fires responded to by fire departments across the nation.
以下是朋友给我转发的: 今天在Las Positas and Hacienda 路口等红灯时,突然听到很刺耳的急刹车声,大概5秒钟后看见一辆车沿Hacienda高速穿过路口时撞上路旁公寓前的什么东西上并发出巨大响声(跟好莱坞大片里的一样)。车子颠了几下停了,不到30秒的时间看见车里有一小团火,随后大概只有5秒的时间突然变成大火,无法靠近。当时心想,这么宽的路,又没什么车,怎么能把车开成这样,估计是teenage开车。 眼睁睁看着一开始只有方向盘着火,在一分钟不到时间变成冲大火,司机和baby葬身火海[流泪][流泪] 估计车子是撞上人行道起火,我们经过时只看到一点小火,一个路人在往外试着拉里面的人,等把车停好后想过去帮忙,火势一下子起来,那个帮忙的人也只好撤了,只能眼睁睁看着火吞噬司机和里面的baby。速度太快了,手上都没有灭火器 朋友说是特斯拉model S
以下是朋友给我转发的: 今天在Las Positas and Hacienda 路口等红灯时,突然听到很刺耳的急刹车声,大概5秒钟后看见一辆车沿Hacienda高速穿过路口时撞上路旁公寓前的什么东西上并发出巨大响声(跟好莱坞大片里的一样)。车子颠了几下停了,不到30秒的时间看见车里有一小团火,随后大概只有5秒的时间突然变成大火,无法靠近。当时心想,这么宽的路,又没什么车,怎么能把车开成这样,估计是teenage开车。 眼睁睁看着一开始只有方向盘着火,在一分钟不到时间变成冲大火,司机和baby葬身火海[流泪][流泪] 朋友说是特斯拉model S elcing 发表于 1/19/2020 2:57:00 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=82437179&postid=82437179#82437179][/url]
新闻出来了。 [url=https://abc7news.com/man-dies-after-tesla-crashes-bursts-into-flames-in-pleasanton/5862228/]https://abc7news.com/man-dies-after-tesla-crashes-bursts-into-flames-in-pleasanton/5862228/[/url] By Lauren Martinez Updated 13 minutes ago PLEASANTON, Calif. (KGO) -- Police are investigating after officers say a speeding Tesla crashed and bust into flames in Pleasanton Saturday night. Police say one man was killed in the incident. His identity has not been released. The crash was reported around 6 pm at the intersection of West Las Positas Boulevard and Hacienda Drive. The Tesla was driving southbound, lost control at the intersection, and ran into a sign at an apartment complex, police said. It was the only car involved and no one else was injured, according to the preliminary investigation. When officers arrived, the car was on fire. They say the car took out a traffic signal before ultimately crashing to the sign. The intersection is closed and is not expected to open before 1 am.
By Lauren Martinez Updated 13 minutes ago PLEASANTON, Calif. (KGO) -- Police are investigating after officers say a speeding Tesla crashed and bust into flames in Pleasanton Saturday night.
Police say one man was killed in the incident. His identity has not been released.
The crash was reported around 6 pm at the intersection of West Las Positas Boulevard and Hacienda Drive.
The Tesla was driving southbound, lost control at the intersection, and ran into a sign at an apartment complex, police said.
It was the only car involved and no one else was injured, according to the preliminary investigation.
When officers arrived, the car was on fire. They say the car took out a traffic signal before ultimately crashing to the sign.
The intersection is closed and is not expected to open before 1 am. luming 发表于 1/19/2020 3:06:53 AM
那么看看这个: Thus, if Tesla were an average car, we would have expected 0.23 Tesla fire deaths in 2016, 0.35 in 2017, 0.45 deaths in 2018, and 0.16 deaths in 1Q 2019," Brown wrote. That's a total of 1.19 fire deaths over three years. Tragically, that isn't what has been happening.
应该说树大招风吧。 每次电车,尤其是特私拉一烧,就是全部的新闻在报导。却不去注意油车每天都有车子起火。平均每三分钟一次。但没有新闻会去大篇幅报导今天某某车又烧了。除非那车是特私拉。 随便找一下: https://money.cnn.com/2018/05/17/news/companies/electric-car-fire-risk/index.html 2015年美国有174,000起火烧车的事件。几乎都是油车。以每行驶十亿麦来算,油车vs特私拉的起火是55fires/billion miles vs. 5fires/billion miles。 建议大家要下任何结论之前,先去实际了解一下真正的状况是什么。 azenis 发表于 1/19/2020 11:20:00 AM
新闻出来了。 [url=https://abc7news.com/man-dies-after-tesla-crashes-bursts-into-flames-in-pleasanton/5862228/]https://abc7news.com/man-dies-after-tesla-crashes-bursts-into-flames-in-pleasanton/5862228/[/url] By Lauren Martinez Updated 13 minutes ago PLEASANTON, Calif. (KGO) -- Police are investigating after officers say a speeding Tesla crashed and bust into flames in Pleasanton Saturday night. Police say one man was killed in the incident. His identity has not been released. The crash was reported around 6 pm at the intersection of West Las Positas Boulevard and Hacienda Drive. The Tesla was driving southbound, lost control at the intersection, and ran into a sign at an apartment complex, police said. It was the only car involved and no one else was injured, according to the preliminary investigation. When officers arrived, the car was on fire. They say the car took out a traffic signal before ultimately crashing to the sign. The intersection is closed and is not expected to open before 1 am.
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看完这贴感觉炒作特斯拉的或者无知无畏或者为赚钱黑心。
哦
嗯
你说的说下面这个吧? 有没有注意到,那么多起火,死伤是多少?特斯拉是一烧就没得逃。另外你知道美国每年的事故是多少吗? 撞车后起火率不到0.1% 。
Each year, from 2014 to 2016, an estimated 171,500 highway vehicle fires occurred in the United States, resulting in an annual average of 345 deaths; 1,300 injuries; and $1.1 billion in property loss. 1 These highway vehicle fires accounted for 13 percent of fires responded to by fire departments across the nation.
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这太不幸了
这也太惨了😭
哈哈哈,我第一次知道pleasanton叫幸福囤
湾区还有什么其他地方有这种类似的名字吗
tesla的软件有没有外包。。。。
不懂电池,不过你仔细想想,那么多的能量都存在电池里,只要外界条件符合释放或者物质分解标准。不过其他牌子的电池车有没有着火过?
什么原因呢?是机械的,还是电子的,还是软件的呀?还是说就是随机的,看心情?
想想坐在那么一大堆能量上
三块馒头更接近吧?
所以没有小宝宝在车里?不幸中的万幸
嗯,建议每个电动车带一把,不对是四把大锺子,一个门边放一把。着火的话可以砸窗逃命,不过不知道是否来得及
因为它的底盘是密密麻麻上千根排列整齐的电池阵,还是锂电池,大家可以上网查查锂电池的安全性如何。
我猜测,着火是因为碰撞后某处电池碎裂,电池密度太大,短路容易发生。几千根高能电池是很好的燃料,着起火来
很剧烈,只能等它自己结束。
我的劝告,开这种车一旦发生磕碰,即使没感到异常,也要立即下车,等待一阵再说。最好让厂家检查一遍,电池阵一丁点外伤都不能有。
请版上专业人士指正。
土人没体验过。这样的设计太脑残了!哪个地方的安全门会用纯电控制???上个月家里还说下一辆车考虑电厂,这样的设计不敢碰
不是才要出一个truck?
这个我稍微懂一些,电池里的正负电解液是靠隔膜隔开的,如果隔膜损坏,正负直接碰到一起,电池就会短路爆炸。这个问题目前是无解的,但将来解决办法是使用固态电池。
个人经验来说,在电车成熟之前,开特斯拉要小心小心再小心,安全是一方面,还有就是修理过程非常繁琐昂贵。自从开了特斯拉,感觉开车真的是比以前谨慎多了。 如果想生活简单一些,开得轻松一些,目前还是不要入特斯拉的坑。
锂电池也有电解液?
除了固态电池,都有电解液。但固态电池目前成本太高,没有商业产品
那设计的时候应该在底盘那里加一层防火隔离层啊。这绝对是可以有所作为,即使不能完全隔离,也至少可以拖延时间。像这种不到一分钟就起大火,是真的不给乘客任何逃生的机会。
这种明显应该做的而没做,不是潜潜地杀人吗?
这种明显应该做措施的而没有做,不是潜潜地杀人吗?
上面的也说了是目前无解。现在不稳定就是不稳定,电池起火也不是个案了。愿意体会新技术的快感,顺便做测试小白也是个人的选择。
这事如果发生在国内,那只要微信和微博一宣传,特斯拉就臭了
特斯拉应该下了很大功夫做隔离。问题是,碰撞的力度大一些的话,金属都能变形,何况电池。
我觉得特斯拉应该把电池阵上面的阻燃性能做到极致,再加一套灭火系统。
除了电池隐忧,特斯拉都是优点。
车子本身也有防碰撞的软件吧,出事的车子可能没启用它。
好可怕
RIP。
那还这么多人吹捧有多好?自己不知道风险吗?
天啊
先解决电池的环保问题吧。
又是这种论调。你说在美国谁卡着你一定要买电车了?
有没有统计买电车的都什么专业?
我的车里有两把锤子。。。
锂电,安全性一直是个问题
汽油车自燃和锂电车自燃速度差很多的,电车有很多优点,但锂电车是个过渡产品
美国数以亿计的燃油车在路上跑 我们算算有多少比例事故起火?然后算算起火的都车龄多少?什么condition?会不会像tesla这样一分钟之内爆燃车主毫无逃生可能?
你tesla号称宇宙第一安全 路上跑的不过几十万两 这两年听到的烧死车主撞死行人的事故还嫌少了吗?
又来这种说法了。就算燃油车起火的数量多也要看看比例好吗?外面路上多少十几年的汽油车在跑?你tsla才几年?几辆?
更何况现在的例子是Tesla起火的时候一旦车里有人必死无疑。这就跟坐飞机一样,事故率低啊,可是轮到你就是100%。飞机是无奈的唯一选择,Tesla呢?
我就是怕这个,车停车库里,总觉得不安全,万分之一几率遇上就可怕不堪设想
天啊,为什么撞墙?地盘的电池都撞扁了吧。。
手机的锂电池有时也会充电的时候爆炸
别说国内了,网上搜pleasanton tesla fire, 连带出来过去一两年los gatos, campbell还有南加都好几起自燃了
Mountain View:山景城 Sunnyvale:阳谷 我只知道这两个。我觉得翻译的不错。
我有电动车,开起来很舒服。但目前为了追求高里程采取的技术增加了电动车的风险。不宜过分恐惧,但也不应低估风险。油车起火没有电动车起火迅猛。油车前盖起火是很小的事,油车后面油箱起火非常少见。油车在车库停着不会起火。
宝马有电车吗?我知道国内蔚来有电车自燃的,好像没有伤到人。
死者RIP! 还好没有baby 在里面,要不然更惨!
新闻里说死的只有司机,没有其他人。车里根本没有小孩