Don’t know who the fist line manager is. The Director and VP in that group are both mainland Chinese. Last name Fan(male) and Li (female). The toxic culture is top down.
First, in order to prevent similar tragedies from happening again, we need to know what happened. Then we can figure out what changes can be made.
waterL 发表于 9/24/2019 6:19:14 PM
Qin‘s tragic suicide has raised a lot of speculations and concerns about workplace bullies in the tech community nation-wide, many shared their own experiences being threatened or treated unfairly at workplace. ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
Qin‘s tragic suicide has raised a lot of speculations and concerns about workplace bullies in the tech community nation-wide, many shared their own experiences being threatened or treated unfairly at workplace. ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP pmmp 发表于 9/24/2019 6:26:32 PM
好,继续接:People who have information about what led to this tragedy should be allowed to talk about it without worrying about being fired by Facebook.
Don’t know who the fist line manager is. The Director and VP in that group are both mainland Chinese. Last name Fan(male) and Li (female). The toxic culture is top down. ukboris 发表于 9/24/2019 5:54:00 PM
Why did a young software engineer, with a promising career and a family and young kid to support, choose to end his own life in such a tragic way at the workplace? What had happened to him hours, days, or months before his death? The public demands transparency on this matter and the fact that Facebook has remained silent on this matter is simply shocking.
Today we gather here to mourn the loss of a valuable member of the tech community, a father, a husband, and a son. Today we also gather here to demand Facebook to investigate and let the public know the truth of Qin's suicide.
Why did a young software engineer, with a promising career and a family and young kid to support, choose to end his own life in such a tragic way at the workplace? What had happened to him hours, days, or months before his death? The public demands transparency on this matter and the fact that Facebook has remained silent on this matter is simply shocking.
Today we gather here to mourn the loss of a valuable member of the tech community, a father, a husband, and a son. Today we also gather here to demand Facebook to investigate and let the public know the truth of Qin's suicide. icylava 发表于 9/24/2019 6:56:26 PM
Why did a young software engineer, with a promising career and a family and young kid to support, choose to end his own life in such a tragic way at the workplace? What had happened to him hours, days, or months before his death? The public demands transparency on this matter and the fact that Facebook has remained silent on this matter is simply shocking.
Today we gather here to mourn the loss of a valuable member of the tech community, a father, a husband, and a son. Today we also gather here to demand Facebook to investigate and let the public know the truth of Qin's suicide. icylava 发表于 9/24/2019 6:56:26 PM
We request a solid investigation of root cause and to establish a procedure to prevent this from recurring. An simple answer of one employee passed away is not appropriate and is not acceptable.
以下是我跟几个mm合写的通稿内容: “Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are.” --- Benjamin Franklin
Facebook employee, Qin Chen, died after jumping off the fourth floor of a Facebook building in Menlo Park, CA, in an apparent suicide on September 19, 2019, a beautiul and shiny Thursday. Although Facebook has kept silent in an unusual way in the past several days and conducted no investigation, multiple social media posts and videos surfaced from insiders have all pointed to the horrible workplace toxicity Qin was impaired prior to this tragedy.
Through his friends and colleagues we get to know that Qin was bullied in the workplace, suffered extreme stress. In the end, he fought back in an extreme yet violent way by paying a cost of his life, a young precious life. A young life, a precious one is lost. And the loss of precious life demands answers. However, until this moment, as far as we know, no discussion on this topic is allowed within Facebook. Employees are not allowed to ask why. The company calls all asking for reasons “circulating misinformation or rumor”.
Some of us know Qin personally, most don’t. However, just like our founding father’s famous quote, “Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are.” We all are outraged. What happened to Qin? Why did he jump off an office building in a work day, leaving his family and friends all behind? Why is Facebook a company which promotes social interactions silent and cold this time? Truth, but truth, what is the truth if a company truly wants to avoid misinformation and rumor?
The more we ask, the stronger obligation we feel that we have to demand a full investigation from Facebook leadership team and the justice for Qin. No one should suffer from a toxic working environment. No one should die this way, ever again. No wife should be departed from her dear husband this way. No child should lose his/her loving father this way. No one should hold a sign and send flowers to here, a famous technology company who claim to make our daily life better this way. Time to say No. Time to Stop. Time for a giant global company to reflect his mission statement to human beings.
Please join us in the vigil and the “WE DESERVE THE TRUTH” campaign to memorize Qin and support each other in this hard-working community. Event date and time: Thursday September 26,1:00-2:30 pm Location: Facebook Like Sign (map)
We have raised sufficient funds from all over North America to support this campaign. Volunteers will prepare flowers and protest signs and distribute at the event. Please arrive at the event on time wearing dark clothing without any company logo.
以下是我跟几个mm合写的通稿内容: “Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are.” --- Benjamin Franklin
Facebook employee, Qin Chen, died after jumping off the fourth floor of a Facebook building in Menlo Park, CA, in an apparent suicide on September 19, 2019, a beautiul and shiny Thursday. Although Facebook has kept silent in an unusual way in the past several days and conducted no investigation, multiple social media posts and videos surfaced from insiders have all pointed to the horrible workplace toxicity Qin was impaired prior to this tragedy.
Through his friends and colleagues we get to know that Qin was bullied in the workplace, suffered extreme stress. In the end, he fought back in an extreme yet violent way by paying a cost of his life, a young precious life. A young life, a precious one is lost. And the loss of precious life demands answers. However, until this moment, as far as we know, no discussion on this topic is allowed within Facebook. Employees are not allowed to ask why. The company calls all asking for reasons “circulating misinformation or rumor”.
Some of us know Qin personally, most don’t. However, just like our founding father’s famous quote, “Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are.” We all are outraged. What happened to Qin? Why did he jump off an office building in a work day, leaving his family and friends all behind? Why is Facebook a company which promotes social interactions silent and cold this time? Truth, but truth, what is the truth if a company truly wants to avoid misinformation and rumor?
The more we ask, the stronger obligation we feel that we have to demand a full investigation from Facebook leadership team and the justice for Qin. No one should suffer from a toxic working environment. No one should die this way, ever again. No wife should be departed from her dear husband this way. No child should lose his/her loving father this way. No one should hold a sign and send flowers to here, a famous technology company who claim to make our daily life better this way. Time to say No. Time to Stop. Time for a giant global company to reflect his mission statement to human beings.
Please join us in the vigil and the “WE DESERVE THE TRUTH” campaign to memorize Qin and support each other in this hard-working community. Event date and time: Thursday September 26,1:00-2:30 pm Location: Facebook Like Sign (map)
We have raised sufficient funds from all over North America to support this campaign. Volunteers will prepare flowers and protest signs and distribute at the event. Please arrive at the event on time wearing dark clothing without any company logo. baby.chen 发表于 9/24/2019 7:47:07 PM
我知道提意见很容易,所以你听听就好。
句子太长,太复杂,从句太多。还有好多排比有点削弱内容。搞简单一点儿。 另外总体感觉两个事儿一个是 demand investigation,一个是 remember and honor 就可以了。至于什么没有人 deserve 这些,没有小孩子老婆老妈什么的,那个有点多余,可以开始直接说跳了,留下老婆孩子就完了。
Facebook software engineer, Qin Chen, died after jumping off the fourth floor of a Facebook building in Menlo Park, CA, in an apparent suicide on September 19, 2019, a beautiful and sunny Thursday. While the silence from Facebook after this tragedy has been deafening, multiple social media posts and videos from insiders have all pointed to the horrible workplace toxicity Qin was subjected to prior to this tragedy.
我们已经成立了三个小组:media组,鲜花标语筹备组和当天的调度安排组。首先感谢志愿者们,尤其是远程协助的几位童鞋,真是雪中送炭。
我们的fund已经超过3k,明天一早截止,明天中午我跟几个mm去wholesale批发花,明天晚上包扎和题词,以及做牌子。
任务重时间紧,但我们会时不时来跟大家update。谢谢各位的参与!
谢谢姐妹!另外是不是要带个做律师的朋友 just in case
不知道湾区有没有做这方面的或者华人做这方面的能够提供一些法律上的建议。
提醒一下,举牌子算游行示威吗?不知道需不需要跟police报备一下?
Protest需要跟city申请吗
需要参加的人越多越好吗?需要帮忙去微信群拉人来参加吗
已经报备好menlo park的警方了
应该就是这个人,昨天也有人爆料了。就是4分钟删的那个人
大家一起努力
一亩三分地管理员发的
https://oss.1point3acres.cn/forum/201909/25/010722yv6ij6dd0in90wd6.png!c
搬运了
强re
真的啊
那还能在blind上说吗
blind总能匿名爆料吧 ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
并不违反啊
你可以说啊,说就解雇呗,反正是私企 ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
加油
棒棒的 ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
非常感谢🙏!!!! ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
公司花钱买她沉默呗
不过没关系,这只是一个导火索,大家真正的努力的是为了以后的工作环境,跟每个人都有关系 ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
赞!赞!赞!
这个好!越多的媒体coverage才越能引起重视
嗯!这是所有H1b面临的问题,是对移民的歧视。
👍👍 👍
谢谢你们的努力!!
另外要不要准备一下怎么说,万一有媒体要采访什么的。
职场bully吧,不是移民问题,当然移民面对这个问题更艰难。
好建议.
我们现在全速推进各项事情, 人手有限, 有没有英文好并且有经验的童鞋给写几段媒体采访的应答template?
谢谢谢!
请英文好的同学帮忙写一个media release,打印好,发给到场媒体
湾区的这种风气也是造成悲剧的根源之一啊,只有摒弃这种风气大家才能更好团结啊,不然天天攀比内卷,永远团结不起来
来 写个什么吧 ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
这么短的时间内酬到了这么多钱,看得出大家对此的关心,也看到了华人的团结!
赞行动力
我建议大家就在这里用英文mock interview, 一起润色措辞, 一起商量决定我们的position。
Qin‘s tragic suicide has raised a lot of speculations and concerns about workplace bullies in the tech community nation-wide, many shared their own experiences being threatened or treated unfairly at workplace. ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
好,继续接:People who have information about what led to this tragedy should be allowed to talk about it without worrying about being fired by Facebook.
英语不好,一点思路:感觉这句走的太快。这句应该是结尾顺带捎上的。
在这之前是主体要强调这种工作环境多么有害,所以一定要开启 investigation,给员工和公众一个解释。
然后再说怎么预防这样的事情。要鼓励员工speakup如果遇到bully,不能报复发声的员工。
哎,现在的公司没人发声,前公司的人帮忙找律师联系。都说人走茶凉,看来还真不是啊~
workforce也是垄断
往那上面扯
Today we gather here to mourn the loss of a valuable member of the tech community, a father, a husband, and a son. Today we also gather here to demand Facebook to investigate and let the public know the truth of Qin's suicide.
说得好!
写的不错,采访回答可以用,简短的最好。
想得真周到。赞为素不相识的同胞讨公道的正义心
有mm在
心安了不少。好感动
gofund的捐款已经足够cover本次活动了,lz马上会去主贴更新,我们将很快close fund raise。期间有收到询问为什么捐款,怎么用,那我重复一下,所有款项将用于本次campaign购置鲜花,牌子,以及media相关开支。若有剩余,如得到家属同意,将以全体华人名义用于葬礼鲜花开支。
我们在紧锣密鼓制通稿flyer,很快会贴上来。
再次感谢
给你点赞,刚刚捐了表示一点心意。
对于那个家属不需要协助的截图,这个帖子里也有说的, 以下转发:
上面发言的人,可能是死者亲朋好友,纯属传话;也可能是facebook里奉旨公关的人。
对这种发言你可以有多种理解:
1. 可能代表家人心声,亲人已逝,家人心情悲痛,即使是跳楼自杀,也不想追究此事,每次被提起都是一次伤痛。
2. Facebook可能出了一笔钱封口,家人妥协,交由facebook公关处理,为了拿到钱,可能会配合facebook公关。
真相只有一个,但是我们无从得知。即使家属出来表态,上述两个观点都会有支持者。
一个截图是真是假都不好说。。。
感谢 babychen
辛苦了。有志愿者的群可以加吗
私你
也告诉我行吗?我也想加群
后面一段好,前面一段好像还可以整理一下,可以同样用we 来表述
葬礼的鲜花
听着就难受
家人心❤都碎了
我想比最后都变成鲜花有意义的多,也更加符合大家的利益
谢谢mm! ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
“Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are.” --- Benjamin Franklin
Facebook employee, Qin Chen, died after jumping off the fourth floor of a Facebook building in Menlo Park, CA, in an apparent suicide on September 19, 2019, a beautiul and shiny Thursday. Although Facebook has kept silent in an unusual way in the past several days and conducted no investigation, multiple social media posts and videos surfaced from insiders have all pointed to the horrible workplace toxicity Qin was impaired prior to this tragedy.
Through his friends and colleagues we get to know that Qin was bullied in the workplace, suffered extreme stress. In the end, he fought back in an extreme yet violent way by paying a cost of his life, a young precious life. A young life, a precious one is lost. And the loss of precious life demands answers. However, until this moment, as far as we know, no discussion on this topic is allowed within Facebook. Employees are not allowed to ask why. The company calls all asking for reasons “circulating misinformation or rumor”.
Some of us know Qin personally, most don’t. However, just like our founding father’s famous quote, “Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are.” We all are outraged. What happened to Qin? Why did he jump off an office building in a work day, leaving his family and friends all behind? Why is Facebook a company which promotes social interactions silent and cold this time? Truth, but truth, what is the truth if a company truly wants to avoid misinformation and rumor?
The more we ask, the stronger obligation we feel that we have to demand a full investigation from Facebook leadership team and the justice for Qin. No one should suffer from a toxic working environment. No one should die this way, ever again. No wife should be departed from her dear husband this way. No child should lose his/her loving father this way. No one should hold a sign and send flowers to here, a famous technology company who claim to make our daily life better this way. Time to say No. Time to Stop. Time for a giant global company to reflect his mission statement to human beings.
Please join us in the vigil and the “WE DESERVE THE TRUTH” campaign to memorize Qin and support each other in this hard-working community.
Event date and time: Thursday September 26,1:00-2:30 pm
Location: Facebook Like Sign (map)
We have raised sufficient funds from all over North America to support this campaign. Volunteers will prepare flowers and protest signs and distribute at the event. Please arrive at the event on time wearing dark clothing without any company logo.
管理困难,容易惹事上身,一地鸡毛。
可以,怎样都可以。等活动结束,全部以各种形式返还给同胞。
扯上捐款总是容易是非多
鲜花送qin走挺好的
---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
轮值啊,而且支出管理分开。
讲真很感动,谢谢大家的慷慨、理解、支持
还是要感谢mm组织 有个好领导真是太重要了
感谢baby和楼主等mm站出来主持道义,take action, 寻求真相。
感谢大家有钱的出钱,有力的出力。
能有个像#metoo一样的hashtag嘛?
非常赞成大家share经历
同意,非常好的行动力,幸苦了
抛砖引玉:“workplace bullying" "big company cover-up"
#toxicmanagement
#workspacebully
都有点长... ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP
我知道提意见很容易,所以你听听就好。
句子太长,太复杂,从句太多。还有好多排比有点削弱内容。搞简单一点儿。
另外总体感觉两个事儿一个是 demand investigation,一个是 remember and honor 就可以了。至于什么没有人 deserve 这些,没有小孩子老婆老妈什么的,那个有点多余,可以开始直接说跳了,留下老婆孩子就完了。
反正肯定比我写的好,我就是帮你挑点儿刺儿。
#no moreworkplacebullying#man on the ledge
我觉得需要深想一下我们的诉求是什么,然后高亮诉求。
IPAD 上编辑不利索,一点小建议改了几个字请参考。
你看我上面post的,精简了。这个是pre event宣传。
明天打印之前会把活动通知去掉,用来event当时分发
大家都来思考诉求,我们可以改的
想想真是,两耳不闻窗外事,只盯着馒头
text颜色和蜡烛太接近了,不醒目。
另外建议高亮Truth 和 No ---发自Huaren 官方 iOS APP