以下是引用ritahard在2006-11-28 0:36:00的发言: Read it again today. More motivation to learn English! Thanks mm! And good luck in the future! Thanks, and good luck to you, too! Hope your English gets improved quickly!!
exactly... typical example of over-confidence... I've been in the US for 15 years, came here as a teenager.. never met an asian who came here after the age of 12 without accent
以下是引用linberglucy在2006-10-8 1:10:00的发言: 在比较小的公司或者startup,两年做到这个位置还是可能的。大公司的HR VP 或者director,一般都得有15年以上的经验还不止。 That's very true but I still think LZMM is doing a great job
以下是引用nathalie在2006-10-13 19:52:00的发言: 想当初也有人问过我“what makes you different from other candidates"这个问题,把我给吓坏了。当时我是冲着Job Fair上琳琅满目的免费东东去的,根本就没好好准备面试。结果发呆10秒钟后,我答道,”Because I am special." 真是丢脸啊。更妙的是过了2个月竟然接到那家公司HR的电话通知我去面试,呵呵,后来他们就成了我的第一个东家。 哈哈 我想起我面试的时候我现在的老板问我 你的缺点是什么 我说 阿你果然问这个问题了,我最怕这个问题了,因为不知道怎么回答 然后...一年后我有时还抱怨老板为什么面试的时候要问我这个问题 她一点都不记得了 还很抱歉地说 真的吗?我问你这么难的问题啊?
以下是引用heels在2006-10-11 17:28:00的发言: I am not HR major, but I also know FMLA. It is common knowledge after you work, is that right? I studied our company's benefits very well because I want to take advantage of it. I am surprised that many HR students don't know what it is from your post
以下是引用heels在2007-3-26 22:53:00的发言: 楼上滴mm: 了解FMLA的基本知识以"take advantage of it"与HR方面的实际管理是两回事。作为公司员工,想要take advantage of it,只需要了解自己在FMLA下的权益是什么。而对于HR来说,要保证公司在FMLA下的合法运作,就需要熟悉远不只basic方面的东西了。比如,什么样的公司是"covered employer", 需要执行FMLA,什么样的公司虽然是"covered employer",却同时有"exempt site",不需要遵守FMLA的规定等等。 Thanks for explanation, I am sure HR knows much more about the subject as opposed to us. I was just surprised that majority of HR major students never heard of "FMLA" this word from your post. That's all
very good posting! heels mm's experience is so encouraging!! I really like your personality and I guess that's the most important factor in your success! wait for more posts about improving english!
以下是引用nathalie在2006-10-13 19:52:00的发言: 想当初也有人问过我“what makes you different from other candidates"这个问题,把我给吓坏了。当时我是冲着Job Fair上琳琅满目的免费东东去的,根本就没好好准备面试。结果发呆10秒钟后,我答道,”Because I am special." 真是丢脸啊。更妙的是过了2个月竟然接到那家公司HR的电话通知我去面试,呵呵,后来他们就成了我的第一个东家。 mm很勇敢
以下是引用pidan在2006-10-13 14:19:00的发言: To be honest,in this world, title means nothing. One of most important factor is your salary. Titles are so different from company to company, with huge gaps between a Fortune 500 company and a small-size company. How much you earn is the hard measure here, as companies always follow industry standards Can't agree more. My supervisor was the controller with his previous employer, but now, he's just one of the thousands managers in a Fortune 100 company. He is probably making same amount of money as he did before, if not higher. Apparently, LZ mm is very proud of what she's doing and what she's achieved. I don't think there is anything about it. She has every reason to be proud of herself. However, considering many Huaren MMs are still at school and knowing little about corporate world, throwing out a big title like Director of HR without defining it, does seem to me a little misleading.
It is a very good sharing, Thanks MM. But I still think English is very important for us to find a job in USA Eepecially management major. if it is China, the ability excluding language talents may count more.
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楼主MM可以介绍一下你的背景吗?如国内的哪个学校,国内时英语的水平,等等。 还有你认为如果中国人读美国本科的MARKETING毕业,找工作的概率有多大呢? 谢谢! 我在国内的本科念的不是顶尖的学校,排名也就前50吧,不过人力资源专业是全国排名前三的。出国前我一直自认英语很好,但是却从来不是考试型选手。
我不是读HR的,但是我对HR有深深的敬畏,因为他们都非常detail-oriented,面试的时候简直是对着resume上一点一点地问,问的问题非常typical,但是他们的attitude让我很不舒服。现在想来还心有余悸。幸好我的最后两轮面试都是department决定的。
其实是很讨厌HR面试的.
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我很佩服就是,你们都说自己书面比口语好,我倒觉得自己书面不比口语好。因为在我看来,口语简单,听力更简单。 但是,书面表达,要写的好,用词恰当,还有待提高。
想问问,楼主平时看什么书? 杂志?
Read it again today. More motivation to learn English! Thanks mm! And good luck in the future! Thanks, and good luck to you, too! Hope your English gets improved quickly!!
eager to see.
mm加油!再灌两瓢就看到了!
好像其他mm也说过这句话
楼主的这种性格,不成功都难。
真的很谢谢你的帖子,让jm们干活更有动力
不过,不远的未来就能够看到啦!
加油
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在比较小的公司或者startup,两年做到这个位置还是可能的。大公司的HR VP 或者director,一般都得有15年以上的经验还不止。 That's very true but I still think LZMM is doing a great job
想当初也有人问过我“what makes you different from other candidates"这个问题,把我给吓坏了。当时我是冲着Job Fair上琳琅满目的免费东东去的,根本就没好好准备面试。结果发呆10秒钟后,我答道,”Because I am special." 真是丢脸啊。更妙的是过了2个月竟然接到那家公司HR的电话通知我去面试,呵呵,后来他们就成了我的第一个东家。
职位是到底有多高,我觉得不是这篇文章的重点吧。我觉得lzmm在career path上的把握,努力和闯劲是值得我学习的。
我就是佩服英文好的人。普遍来说MM比GG强些。当然不只是英文流畅,还有会说话,技巧,交谈的艺术,什么时候该说什么,什么时候不该说,应该怎么说,不应该怎么说等等等等,很高深的一门学问拉。而这个的受益,不光是工作上,生活上,为人处事上,包括和家人的相处,婆媳关系,都是大有可为的。 我书呆子了很多年,近年来才渐渐领悟到(是从心里认同这种想法),原来同样的意思,怎么说,怎么表达,效果完全可以相反! 不过我对於ACCENT到不是很在意的。轻微的ACCENT也很CHARMING嘛。就是表达用词要地道,适合说话的场景和听众,这个是我最希望达到的。
Can't Agree More!
楼主MM,不知道是否介意说一下你念的HR master是哪间学校?我想知道对于我们国际学生读完master出来找工作,从名校或top program毕业是不是真的很重要的?假如是从一个很一般的ranking的学校,但是program还可以的,毕业之后出去找工作,会不会输很多? 我念的不是名校,也就是一间普通的州立大学。名校top program毕业的当然好,镀金谁不喜欢,但我认为最重要的还是个人素质和潜力。好的公司不会因为你是名校毕业就给你offer和高工资。找工作的心态很重要。 说句不谦虚的话,我认为自己比很多名校出来的人有能力很多。
我念的不是名校,也就是一间普通的州立大学。名校top program毕业的当然好,镀金谁不喜欢,但我认为最重要的还是个人素质和潜力。好的公司不会因为你是名校毕业就给你offer和高工资。找工作的心态很重要。 说句不谦虚的话,我认为自己比很多名校出来的人有能力很多。 谢谢前辈MM的指点。
This recommendation is funny...
I am not HR major, but I also know FMLA. It is common knowledge after you work, is that right? I studied our company's benefits very well because I want to take advantage of it. I am surprised that many HR students don't know what it is from your post
楼上滴mm: 了解FMLA的基本知识以"take advantage of it"与HR方面的实际管理是两回事。作为公司员工,想要take advantage of it,只需要了解自己在FMLA下的权益是什么。而对于HR来说,要保证公司在FMLA下的合法运作,就需要熟悉远不只basic方面的东西了。比如,什么样的公司是"covered employer", 需要执行FMLA,什么样的公司虽然是"covered employer",却同时有"exempt site",不需要遵守FMLA的规定等等。 Thanks for explanation, I am sure HR knows much more about the subject as opposed to us. I was just surprised that majority of HR major students never heard of "FMLA" this word from your post. That's all
谢谢
大言不惭地说一句,偶的口语自认为很好啦,所有见过的美国人都夸
满心期待
一路追MM的贴子过来 可惜没魅力看不到 sigh...
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好惭愧,每每一到需要积极发言的课,我就郁闷,因为课堂没有外国学生,我总是很胆怯。老师没当面和我说,考试测验我成绩并不比老美差,但是我发言的积极性实在是。。。
太Admire啦。我觉得说的流利可以做到,但是减少accent,实在太难了。除非来美国以前发音就很美语化的,否则挺难改的。还不如那些在国内英语很不好,来美国现学现磨练的呢。LZmm是怎么练习语音语调的?有自己录音然后自己听,或者找英语的partner吗?多谢! 我却觉得减少accent容易,多模仿就行,但是说的流利不简单。像lz这样既没有accent也说的流利的,真是太强了!!
想当初也有人问过我“what makes you different from other candidates"这个问题,把我给吓坏了。当时我是冲着Job Fair上琳琅满目的免费东东去的,根本就没好好准备面试。结果发呆10秒钟后,我答道,”Because I am special." 真是丢脸啊。更妙的是过了2个月竟然接到那家公司HR的电话通知我去面试,呵呵,后来他们就成了我的第一个东家。
To be honest,in this world, title means nothing. One of most important factor is your salary. Titles are so different from company to company, with huge gaps between a Fortune 500 company and a small-size company. How much you earn is the hard measure here, as companies always follow industry standards Can't agree more. My supervisor was the controller with his previous employer, but now, he's just one of the thousands managers in a Fortune 100 company. He is probably making same amount of money as he did before, if not higher. Apparently, LZ mm is very proud of what she's doing and what she's achieved. I don't think there is anything about it. She has every reason to be proud of herself. However, considering many Huaren MMs are still at school and knowing little about corporate world, throwing out a big title like Director of HR without defining it, does seem to me a little misleading.
我就是佩服英文好的人。普遍来说MM比GG强些。当然不只是英文流畅,还有会说话,技巧,交谈的艺术,什么时候该说什么,什么时候不该说,应该怎么说,不应该怎么说等等等等,很高深的一门学问拉。而这个的受益,不光是工作上,生活上,为人处事上,包括和家人的相处,婆媳关系,都是大有可为的。 我书呆子了很多年,近年来才渐渐领悟到(是从心里认同这种想法),原来同样的意思,怎么说,怎么表达,效果完全可以相反! 不过我对於ACCENT到不是很在意的。轻微的ACCENT也很CHARMING嘛。就是表达用词要地道,适合说话的场景和听众,这个是我最希望达到的。 这个MM说得对.我觉得大家完全不要太在意口音的问题.印度人的口音很重,但是美国人很少会觉得他们语言不好.你仔细观察他们讲话的谴词造句和文法都是很好的,还是因为他们的官方语言是英文的缘故. 我觉得我们更多的时候不是口音的问题,是单词发音的重音的位置不对的问题.重音不对,很多时候美国人就听不懂了.还有V和W的发音不分,口型在讲话的时候变化不大,也容易给人含糊其词的感觉.
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看了lzmm的帖子,发现自己实在太懒散了。有你的例子,我知道了我还要好好努力啊
我念的不是名校,也就是一间普通的州立大学。名校top program毕业的当然好,镀金谁不喜欢,但我认为最重要的还是个人素质和潜力。好的公司不会因为你是名校毕业就给你offer和高工资。找工作的心态很重要。 说句不谦虚的话,我认为自己比很多名校出来的人有能力很多。 怎么知道的? 不过你的自信心倒是比很多名校出来的强。。。