seriously no one but me thinks the speech is at least somewhat reasonable? it was directed at the african american community which is reeling from the death of a young black boy, and this speech came about as a result of the black community demanding it?
people really think, if he would have said "$hit happens, deal with your black life" would have helped the protest?
seriously no one but me thinks the speech is at least somewhat reasonable? it was directed at the african american community which is reeling from the death of a young black boy, and this speech came about as a result of the black community demanding it?
people really think, if he would have said "$hit happens, deal with your black life" would have helped the protest?
He should have kept his mouth shut. He is an extremely unprofessional president.
Presidents usually speak to the public during prime time. Why does Obama speak to the American people at 1:30 pm .....when white people are at work? Is he not talking to us right now? [此贴子已经被作者于2013/7/19 19:35:13编辑过]
seriously no one but me thinks the speech is at least somewhat reasonable? it was directed at the african american community which is reeling from the death of a young black boy, and this speech came about as a result of the black community demanding it?
people really think, if he would have said "$hit happens, deal with your black life" would have helped the protest?
Presidents usually speak to the public during prime time. Why does Obama speak to the American people at 1:30 pm .....when white people are at work? Is he not talking to us right now? [此贴子已经被作者于2013/7/19 19:35:13编辑过]
now we are having a good conversation, this is how i interpreted it... he was not trying to say anything about the verdict of the trial... as he said, this is how the system works... what he was trying to explain was the lens through which black people viewed the trial... this was, for many people, the story of a boy who was profiled on account of his skin color (lets face it, racial profiling does exist, i do, you do, everybody does), creating a situation that had a tragic resolution...
he was not discussing the outcome of the trial, but the reasons why it touched a nerve with so many people, the social and psychological implications of the incident and the outcome, and how they fit into a powerful (and largely accurate) historical narrative... at the end, he expresses hope that we're unravelling that narrative and provides suggestions for how we can continue doing so...
Presidents usually speak to the public during prime time. Why does Obama speak to the American people at 1:30 pm .....when white people are at work? Is he not talking to us right now? [此贴子已经被作者于2013/7/19 19:35:13编辑过]
he is president of the united states NOT the president of african americans..he needs to respect ruling system even though he is the president. BTW, his standing of speech is not well-grounded..so many ppl, black or white, got into the trouble. Can we reconsider our judicial system every single time? Bottom line is you need to act like a president not a black racist!
he is president of the united states NOT the president of african americans..he needs to respect ruling system even though he is the president. BTW, his standing of speech is not well-grounded..so many ppl, black or white, got into the trouble. Can we reconsider our judicial system every single time? Bottom line is you need to act like a president not a black racist!
that's very fair, i do think it's unwise to relate TM to himself simply because they are both black...
but again, i wish people wouldn't focus on one line out of an entire speech that made many points, and interpret it in a way that allows you to criticize him as an individual... people are free to agree/disagree with what he's saying... but i think they have to acknowledge the fact that he made the decision to speak about this whole issue and give his opinion on the state of race relations in the US is important and says something about the state of our country socially......
now we are having a good conversation, this is how i interpreted it... he was not trying to say anything about the verdict of the trial... as he said, this is how the system works... what he was trying to explain was the lens through which black people viewed the trial... this was, for many people, the story of a boy who was profiled on account of his skin color (lets face it, racial profiling does exist, i do, you do, everybody does), creating a situation that had a tragic resolution...
he was not discussing the outcome of the trial, but the reasons why it touched a nerve with so many people, the social and psychological implications of the incident and the outcome, and how they fit into a powerful (and largely accurate) historical narrative... at the end, he expresses hope that we're unravelling that narrative and provides suggestions for how we can continue doing so...
call me naive but i don't think he does that on purpose....... he needs to work on his public speech skills (like always)....... maybe a prayer for GM and his family would be better
that's very fair, i do think it's unwise to relate TM to himself simply because they are both black...
but again, i wish people wouldn't focus on one line out of an entire speech that made many points, and interpret it in a way that allows you to criticize him as an individual... people are free to agree/disagree with what he's saying... but i think they have to acknowledge the fact that he made the decision to speak about this whole issue and give his opinion on the state of race relations in the US is important and says something about the state of our country socially......
He is as white as Zimmerman. Most people here first and foremost don't think that he should comment on the legal issue and escalate to racial issue; and what he said was even more conflict provoking. You should also think why you are the only one defending him here. Are you truly as fair as you think, or are you simply living in your good life bubble and think that supporting 08 under these circumstances is cool? How about take a leisurely stroll within the 8 mile area in Detroit? Will you have fear?
call me naive but i don't think he does that on purpose....... he needs to work on his public speech skills (like always)....... maybe a prayer for GM and his family would be better
He is as white as Zimmerman. Most people here first and foremost don't think that he should comment on the legal issue and escalate to racial issue; and what he said was even more conflict provoking. You should also think why you are the only one defending him here. Are you truly as fair as you think, or are you simply living in your good life bubble and think that supporting 08 under these circumstances is cool? How about take a leisurely stroll within the 8 mile area in Detroit? Will you have fear?
i will not go to the ghetto..... agreeing on the speech does not mean i deny the problems black people are having........ the speech simply acknowledges those racial tensions that we are having in this country, that's exactly why i'm no going to the ghetto....
He should have kept his mouth shut at this time. He could have talked about the issue when things cooled down. Now he just added oil to a burning fire.
you know it's funny to me that people talk all of the time about how black leaders need to stand up and address the real problems in their communities.... there is constant griping and bellyaching that al sharpton and jesse jackson are simply race-baiters who stir up passions in really decisive ways... now we have here, the black man with the most influence over the african-american community since MLK, speaking on race in a way that is constructive and that encourages all americans to unify instead of being divisive, and people lose their $hit
instead of talking about how wrong obama is for speaking on this hugely controversial case that is all over our media, maybe people should actually listen to what he's saying and think about it... he's just given the best explanation yet for the anger that the black community is currently feeling.
以下是引用Knitnutbyjl在7/19/2013 7:25:00 PM的发言： seriously no one but me thinks the speech is at least somewhat reasonable? it was directed at the african american community which is reeling from the death of a young black boy, and this speech came about as a result of the black community demanding it?
people really think, if he would have said "$hit happens, deal with your black life" would have helped the protest?
I don't think he just explaining african Americans thoughts, or he let it sounds much worst. The way he said feels like he is only standing up for black. The court made the decision with professional manner and he is not 以下是引用Knitnutbyjl在7/19/2013 9:25:00 PM的发言： sorry no chinese here
you know it's funny to me that people talk all of the time about how black leaders need to stand up and address the real problems in their communities.... there is constant griping and bellyaching that al sharpton and jesse jackson are simply race-baiters who stir up passions in really decisive ways...now we have here, the black man with the most influence over the african-american community since MLK, speaking on race in a way that is constructive and that encourages all americans to unify instead of being divisive, and people l........
Mr. Obama said it would be hard to find an African-American man in America who hasn't been followed around a department store by security or heard car doors locking as they came down the street. He included himself among the people who have had those experiences.
Suggestion to the African-American males referred to in Mr. Obama's speech: Quit the disproportionate number of robberies and murders to citizens of all colors and maybe, just maybe, you would not hear locking doors.
Presidents usually speak to the public during prime time. Why does Obama speak to the American people at 1:30 pm .....when white people are at work? Is he not talking to us right now?
call me naive but i don't think he does that on purpose....... he needs to work on his public speech skills (like always)....... maybe a prayer for GM and his family would be better
以下是引用hotpizza在7/19/2013 6:56:00 PM的发言：
为自己的族裔出头，我觉得是可以理解的啊。
那个小孩死的明显很冤吗，说他袭击Z都是从Z自己嘴里说出来的吧。 我在工作中碰到过的黑人，都是非常非常nice , 我最讨厌的黑人就是08和他老婆.
sorry, people have different political opinions, doesn't mean one is smarter than the other, it's just a fact......
if you were the president, you are asked questions like this, what would you say that'll be better than what he said?
我开始就不会发表声音，尤其在案件判决之前，美国3权独立，我要尊重这个系统，不能政治干预司法。如果他做这个你都赞成，我觉得我们没必要说什么了，懒得废话了。
只要明天有打砸抢，08和支持他的直接被打脸。他能保证明天没有打砸抢吗？还是因为小孩死了，别的种族就该被他们打砸抢，给他们泄愤？
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do you mean obama is the cause of the protest?
我讨厌08，但黑人游行本身这件事我也讨厌。这帮人就是成天无所事事游手好闲，闲的没事就惹是生非。就这么靠辛苦工作的纳税人的钱吃喝玩乐，还觉得全世界的人都欠他们的~~
游行就游行ba as long as they can keep the damage to the reasonable level. You had to let them let off some steam somehow.
我讨厌08，但黑人游行本身这件事我也讨厌。这帮人就是成天无所事事游手好闲，闲的没事就惹是生非。就这么靠辛苦工作的纳税人的钱吃喝玩乐，还觉得全世界的人都欠他们的~~
天哪，明天不出门了
我觉得大家讨厌得也不是黑人要游行这件事情本身，讨厌的是O8煽风点火
其实我正好相反，我就是讨厌黑人去游行, 因为游行有可能变成失控的局面。。。我不讨厌08表态支持死去的小孩。
我朋友在黑人区买了个房子，我们去看都觉得这么好的房子怎么会建在黑人区。我朋友说当初那片区是犹太富人区，黑人运动成功后，国家搞种族融合，鼓励很多南方的黑人搬到东北部。然后搬到东北部的黑人就开始打砸烧那片富人区的房子逼富人搬家，最后那片区成了有名的黑人区。还鼓动黑人游行，看看当年底特律的暴乱和洛杉矶韩国城的黑人暴乱，这个总统真是。
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你朋友真敢买
以下是引用hotpizza在7/19/2013 6:55:00 PM的发言：
为自己的族裔出头，我觉得是可以理解的啊。
那个小孩死的明显很冤吗，说他袭击Z都是从Z自己嘴里说出来的吧。 我在工作中碰到过的黑人，都是非常非常nice , 我最讨厌的黑人就是08和他老婆.
哪100个城市啊？有list吗？
http://blackamericaweb.com/147103/rev-al-sharpton-justice-for-trayvon-rallies/
而且他的哈佛私校还是中东人花了200万给哈佛帮他买下来的。不然凭他的成绩进不了哈佛。现在当总统了，看他对中东国家多好？还对他们的国王下跪！
凤凰男的气质
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总统不会干不过脑子的事儿，人这么做显然是有意图的
re, 就算他不过脑子，他的智囊团也不会啊，不知道他这么做的目的是什么，搞乱美国好浑水摸鱼？
这话在这个时候播出来，大家听的出来什么意思吗？哈哈
以下是引用ronyning在7/19/2013 6:44:00 PM 的发言：
安慰还是火上浇油呀？和毛泽东鼓励红卫兵，有何区别？
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re, 就算他不过脑子，他的智囊团也不会啊，不知道他这么做的目的是什么，搞乱美国好浑水摸鱼？
这个也不明白，一般智囊团不会让总统发表这么明显有争议的言论。
以下是引用杨伟南在7/19/2013 6:46:00 PM的发言：
杰克逊说是healing，healing懂吗？
刚CNN播charles barkley的发言了，听着，你们要以为只有白人种族歧视你们就错了。黑人很多种族主义者（不认识charles barkley的，他是黑人，前NBA大前锋，受黑人尊重的名人之一）
这话在这个时候播出来，大家听的出来什么意思吗？哈哈
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Haha, I always like Charles Barkley, now I like him more.
刚CNN播charles barkley的发言了，听着，你们要以为只有白人种族歧视你们就错了。黑人很多种族主义者（不认识charles barkley的，他是黑人，前NBA大前锋，受黑人尊重的名人之一）
这话在这个时候播出来，大家听的出来什么意思吗？哈哈
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看到了，总算证明了黑人还有明白事理的。细节还没有播，不晓得原话如何。不跟了，累死了，也恶心死了，看着各大电视台，老黑频频出来舔总统，和CCAV无任何区别。
Haha, I always like Charles Barkley, now I like him more.
南无大愿地藏王菩萨!!!
南无大愿地藏王菩萨!!!
南无大愿地藏王菩萨!!!
Haha, I always like Charles Barkley, now I like him more.
以下是引用ronyning在7/19/2013 7:16:00 PM 的发言：
看到了，总算证明了黑人还有明白事理的。细节还没有播，不晓得原话如何。不跟了，累死了，也恶心死了，看着各大电视台，老黑频频出来舔总统，和CCAV无任何区别。
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竟然越搞越大了。就是借着这个案子搞事嘛。这个案子再清楚不过，我开始还以为这得是什么样的白痴总统。后来一想才弄清楚其实人本来就知道肯定判无罪，就是借着搞黑人民运。以前正愁找不到合适的机会
有理，没准另外一个党，正喝着茶水看好戏呢！如果大乱正中下怀，就算不乱，这么闹，也给大家闹得心烦意乱的。烦他们的更烦了，不烦的，也烦了，喜欢的就不知道了。是更喜欢，还是有点不喜欢？但是希望不要最后，好不好，都无辜的老百姓买单。
which is reeling from the death of a young black boy, and this
speech came about as a result of the black community demanding it?
people really think, if he would have said "$hit happens, deal with your black life" would have helped the protest?
以下是引用proserpina在7/19/2013 7:14:00 PM 的发言：
Haha, I always like Charles Barkley, now I like him more.
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seriously no one but me thinks the speech is at least somewhat reasonable? it was directed at the african american community
which is reeling from the death of a young black boy, and this
speech came about as a result of the black community demanding it?
people really think, if he would have said "$hit happens, deal with your black life" would have helped the protest?
He should have kept his mouth shut. He is an extremely unprofessional president.
He should have kept his mouth shut. He is an extremely unprofessional president.
that's fair, but then people would call him a push over
球打好，为人礼貌说话得体，还喜欢搞慈善，走哪里都有人喜欢
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I like him way more than Jordan.
Presidents usually speak to the public during prime time. Why does Obama speak to the American people at 1:30 pm .....when white people are at work? Is he not talking to us right now?
[此贴子已经被作者于2013/7/19 19:35:13编辑过]
他就不能说stand your ground law有问题，枪支管理有问题，社区之间应该加强交流，避免悲剧发生？？
他今天这些话，水平还不如人家Trvayvon父母昨天在CNN说的那些话呢！！
他一个总统深思熟虑6天，就会说我是Trvayvon??? 我被歧视过？？？这就是大家对总统的期望？？否则就只能说shit happens？开什么玩笑啊
以下是引用Knitnutbyjl在7/19/2013 7:25:00 PM 的发言：
seriously no one but me thinks the speech is at least somewhat reasonable? it was directed at the african american community
which is reeling from the death of a young black boy, and this
speech came about as a result of the black community demanding it?
people really think, if he would have said "$hit happens, deal with your black life" would have helped the protest?
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8
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哈哈，这个评论搞笑
Presidents usually speak to the public during prime time. Why does Obama speak to the American people at 1:30 pm .....when white people are at work? Is he not talking to us right now?
[此贴子已经被作者于2013/7/19 19:35:13编辑过]
这个太搞笑了
看到cnn里有人评论If it had been you 35 years ago, the shooter would've done us a HUGE favor。 笑尿了 哈哈。真大胆
看到cnn里有人评论If it had been you 35 years ago, the shooter would've done us a HUGE favor。 笑尿了
haha
他为什么一定要以一种不负责的态度说shit happens？你觉得他是这种破罐子破摔的性格？
他就不能说stand you ground law有问题，枪支管理有问题，社区之间应该加强交流，避免悲剧发生？？
他今天这些话，水平还不如人家Trvayvon父母昨天在CNN说的那些话呢！！
他一个总统深思熟虑6天，就会说我是Trvayvon??? 我被歧视过？？？这就是大家对总统的期望？？否则就只能说shit happens？开什么玩笑啊
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now we are having a good conversation, this is how i interpreted it... he was not trying to say anything about the verdict of the trial... as he
said, this is how the system works... what he was trying to explain was the lens through which black people
viewed the trial... this was, for many people, the story of a boy who was
profiled on account of his skin color (lets face it, racial profiling does exist, i do, you do, everybody does), creating a situation that had a
tragic resolution...
he was not discussing the outcome of the trial, but the reasons why
it touched a nerve with so many people, the social and psychological
implications of the incident and the outcome, and how they fit into a
powerful (and largely accurate) historical narrative... at the end, he
expresses hope that we're unravelling that narrative and provides
suggestions for how we can continue doing so...
哈哈，这个评论搞笑
Presidents usually speak to the public during prime time. Why does Obama speak to the American people at 1:30 pm .....when white people are at work? Is he not talking to us right now?
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LOL.
竟然越搞越大了。就是借着这个案子搞事嘛。这个案子再清楚不过，我开始还以为这得是什么样的白痴总统。后来一想才弄清楚其实人本来就知道肯定判无罪，就是借着搞黑人民运。以前正愁找不到合适的机会
re.就算他不知道他的智囊团也知道这种speech的后果，都是有目的的．
以下是引用Knitnutbyjl在7/19/2013 7:25:00 PM的发言：
seriously no="no" one="one" but="but" me="me" thinks="thinks" the="the" speech="speech" is="is" at="at" least="least" somewhat="somewhat" reasonable? it="it" was="was" directed="directed" at="at" the="the" african="african" american="american" community="community"
which is="is" reeling="reeling" from="from" the="the" death="death" of="of" a="a" young="young" black="black" boy, and="and" this="this"
speech came="came" about="about" as="as" a="a" result="result" of="of" the="the" black="black" community="community" demanding="demanding" it?
people really think, if he would have said "$hit happens, deal with your black life" would have helped the protest?
he is president of the united states NOT the president of african americans..he needs to respect ruling system even though he is the president. BTW, his standing of speech is not well-grounded..so many ppl, black or white, got into the trouble. Can we reconsider our judicial system every single time? Bottom line is you need to act like a president not a black racist!
that's very fair, i do think it's unwise to relate TM to himself simply because they are both black...
but again, i wish people wouldn't focus on one line out of an entire speech that
made many points, and interpret it in a way that allows you to criticize
him as an individual... people are free to agree/disagree with what he's
saying... but i think they have to acknowledge the fact that he made the decision to speak about this whole issue and
give his opinion on the state of race relations in the US is important
and says something about the state of our country socially......
now we are having a good conversation, this is how i interpreted it... he was not trying to say anything about the verdict of the trial... as he
said, this is how the system works... what he was trying to explain was the lens through which black people
viewed the trial... this was, for many people, the story of a boy who was
profiled on account of his skin color (lets face it, racial profiling does exist, i do, you do, everybody does), creating a situation that had a
tragic resolution...
he was not discussing the outcome of the trial, but the reasons why
it touched a nerve with so many people, the social and psychological
implications of the incident and the outcome, and how they fit into a
powerful (and largely accurate) historical narrative... at the end, he
expresses hope that we're unravelling that narrative and provides
suggestions for how we can continue doing so...
你显然很偏向总统。Charles Barkley跟你对Zimmerman的案子读解完全一样，我听完就觉得比08讲的令人信服的多。也不会让人产生听完总统讲话的这种愤怒情绪。你就不去想这是为什么？是别人对总统有偏见，过渡读解他的意思。还是他发言水平既比不上受害者的父母，也比不上一个球星？还是他故意的？？我不能解释。你能解释吗？
outfront.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/19/charles-barkley-on-the-evidence-alone-i-tCharles Barkleyhink-the-zimmerman-verdict-was-fair/
你显然很偏向总统。Charles Barkley跟你对Zimmerman的案子读解完全一样，我听完就觉得比08讲的令人信服的多。也不会让人产生听完总统讲话的这种愤怒情绪。你就不去想这是为什么？是别人对总统有偏见，过渡读解他的意思。还是他发言水平既比不上受害者的父母，也比不上一个球星？还是他故意的？？我不能解释。你能解释吗？
outfront.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/19/charles-barkley-on-the-evidence-alone-i-tCharles Barkleyhink-the-zimmerman-verdict-was-fair/
call me naive but i don't think he does that on purpose....... he needs to work on his public speech skills (like always)....... maybe a prayer for GM and his family would be better
that's very fair, i do think it's unwise to relate TM to himself simply because they are both black...
but again, i wish people wouldn't focus on one line out of an entire speech that
made many points, and interpret it in a way that allows you to criticize
him as an individual... people are free to agree/disagree with what he's
saying... but i think they have to acknowledge the fact that he made the decision to speak about this whole issue and
give his opinion on the state of race relations in the US is important
and says something about the state of our country socially......
He is as white as Zimmerman.
Most people here first and foremost don't think that he should comment on the legal issue and escalate to racial issue; and what he said was even more conflict provoking.
You should also think why you are the only one defending him here. Are you truly as fair as you think, or are you simply living in your good life bubble and think that supporting 08 under these circumstances is cool?
How about take a leisurely stroll within the 8 mile area in Detroit? Will you have fear?
你显然很偏向总统。Charles Barkley跟你对Zimmerman的案子读解完全一样，我听完就觉得比08讲的令人信服的多。也不会让人产生听完总统讲话的这种愤怒情绪。你就不去想这是为什么？是别人对总统有偏见，过渡读解他的意思。还是他发言水平既比不上受害者的父母，也比不上一个球星？还是他故意的？？我不能解释。你能解释吗？
outfront.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/19/charles-barkley-on-the-evidence-alone-i-tCharles Barkleyhink-the-zimmerman-verdict-was-fair/
我昨天也看了Charles Barkley 对这件事的品论，很到位。
call me naive but i don't think he does that on purpose....... he needs to work on his public speech skills (like always)....... maybe a prayer for GM and his family would be better
赵紫阳跟老巴说邓小平才是中国幕后老大的时候，我就退一万步相信他纯傻纯naive完全没私心没打自己的小算盘。他naive的后果就是六四
何况我不信政客naive。你naive倒是有可能
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He is as white as Zimmerman.
Most people here first and foremost don't think that he should comment on the legal issue and escalate to racial issue; and what he said was even more conflict provoking.
You should also think why you are the only one defending him here. Are you truly as fair as you think, or are you simply living in your good life bubble and think that supporting 08 under these circumstances is cool?
How about take a leisurely stroll within the 8 mile area in Detroit? Will you have fear?
i will not go to the ghetto..... agreeing on the speech does not mean i deny the problems black people are having........ the speech simply acknowledges those racial tensions that we are having in this country, that's exactly why i'm no going to the ghetto....
我昨天也看了Charles Barkley 对这件事的品论，很到位。
是的，很有水平，非常佩服
赵紫阳跟老巴说邓小平才是中国幕后老大的时候，我就退一万步相信他纯傻纯naive完全没私心没打自己的小算盘。他naive的后果就是六四
何况我不信政客naive。你naive倒是有可能
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maybe you can enlighten me, what good things can come after the speech...... getting MORE people bashing him?
以下是引用proserpina在7/19/2013 3:49:00 PM 的发言：
He should have kept his mouth shut at this time. He could have talked about the issue when things cooled down. Now he just added oil to a burning fire.
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re.就算他不知道他的智囊团也知道这种speech的后果，都是有目的的．
He delivered this speech without teleprompter!
He delivered this speech without teleprompter!
好像桌子有荧屏嵌上去的，如果没看稿子，难道没何人商量就这么小聊天呢？作为总统怎么能这么明显的站边说话。
sorry no chinese here
you know it's funny to me
that people talk all of the time about how black leaders need to stand
up and address the real problems in their communities.... there is constant
griping and bellyaching that al sharpton and jesse jackson are simply
race-baiters who stir up passions in really decisive ways...
now we have here, the black man with the most influence over the african-american community
since MLK, speaking on race in a way that is constructive
and that encourages all americans to unify instead of being divisive,
and people lose their $hit
instead of talking about how wrong obama is for speaking on this
hugely controversial case that is all over our media, maybe people
should actually listen to what he's saying and think about it... he's just
given the best explanation yet for the anger that the black community
is currently feeling.
黑人群体有很多问题，是只有象他这样身份的黑人可以去提出和试图解决的。他没花多少时间去做这些，而在这样一个个案上频频发言。况且不说事实如何，对于一个法学出生的人，在司法系统已经做出判决之后，还去让DOJ干预，不知道说什么好。他在press conference上说得是不错，但黑人的群情激奋又是谁先挑起的？
我英语不太好，这个是在说反话吗
他不断地在这个案子上提到种族，提到黑人如何受歧视，要怎么理解才能理解为他的comments是constructive的，他的目的是让大家团结而不是让大家分裂呢？我理解无能
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太同意了，我也是这个感觉。
天哪，明天不出门了
Chicago的黑人很多哇 ，明天应该不能去Chicago市中心了！
Re
seriously no one but me thinks the speech is at least somewhat reasonable? it was directed at the african american community which is reeling from the death of a young black boy, and this speech came about as a result of the black community demanding it?
people really think, if he would have said "$hit happens, deal with your black life" would have helped the protest?
这就是个普通案件，对方也不是白人，甚至有黑人血统，如果非得发声音，就表达一些人文关怀就好了，没必要往种族那里靠，激起种族仇恨有什么好处呢？还年轻时候大家一定遇到什么街上锁车的声音，提这些干吗呢？明天大游行，大家都在家里想起以前的不愉快，气鼓鼓的去游行，有好处吗？知道你是铁粉，但是不能颠倒黑白吧。
I was supposed to go to a party somewhere near LA downtown tomorrow, now I had to think about it.
别去了，安全第一，尤其LA downtown这种地方
如果他不知道这种speech能带来什么好处却噼里啪啦说这么多，造成群情激愤，说明他stupid
无论哪一种都不符合大众对总统的期望。更何况他是二者兼而有之。骂他是他活该。要真发生什么他是美国历史罪人
可以理解吗？
以下是引用Knitnutbyjl在7/19/2013 8:18:00 PM 的发言：
maybe you can enlighten me, what good things can come after the speech...... getting MORE people bashing him?
protest nonviolent。。。可能吗？
他以为他是mlk，可是mlk提议非暴力游行也失败过，更不要说，他一在任总统做这种事情完全是失职！
大家提出的黑女枪击老公，黑白没关系，因为有人提出来，而是说你看老黑开枪，怎么就不能stand her ground ，要判刑。老白莫，就OK 。和黑女老公黑白没关系。
一个是出去拿枪，zimmerman是身上本来带着枪，还是不一样的。
"Won the Nobel Peace price , now going after the OSCARS"
他以为他是mlk，可是mlk提议非暴力游行也失败过，更不要说，他一在任总统做这种事情完全是失职！
好吧，他连mlk的脚趾头都比不上。就是个撞大运撞成总统的小混混
以下是引用Knitnutbyjl在7/19/2013 9:25:00 PM的发言：
sorry no chinese here
you know it's funny to me that people talk all of the time about how black leaders need to stand up and address the real problems in their communities.... there is constant griping and bellyaching that al sharpton and jesse jackson are simply race-baiters who stir up passions in really decisive ways...now we have here, the black man with the most influence over the african-american community since MLK, speaking on race in a way that is constructive and that encourages all americans to unify instead of being divisive, and people l........
芝加哥哪个星期没有枪击报道？Chicago Tribune给出2013上半年枪击分布地图真正触目惊心！出行避开南部黑人区已经是芝加哥人必知的生活常识！一声太息！黑人们真的看不到还是他们根本不在乎？！
是的，作为一个群体，不在自己身上找问题，一味指责别人，那这个群体不会进步的。除了暴力，gang，还有单亲妈妈问题。随便哪一个，他作为黑人总统，都可以做一些什么，而不是去纠结一个个案，然后拼命往racism上靠。
还好家住的town几乎没有黑人。
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不要说mlk，连曼德拉也比不上的。
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Haha, I always like Charles Barkley, now I like him more.
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说一句吧。作为不了解真相的群众，zimmerman的面相比Trayvon要恶得多，Trayvon其实看着属于黑人中面善的。当然，面相什么的啥也说明不了，只是单纯感慨一下，法庭判决总得看证据不是。O8的第一次发言并没有让我反感，反而有点动容。这次的发言的确欠妥，有煽风点火之嫌。 您觉得TM看起来善，会不会是因为您看到的照片都是TM13岁时的？
以下是引用Bluesky00在7/19/2013 6:04:00 PM的发言：
Here is some comment on WSJ that I like:
Mr. Obama said it would be hard to find an African-American man in America who hasn't been followed around a department store by security or heard car doors locking as they came down the street. He included himself among the people who have had those experiences.
Suggestion to the African-American males referred to in Mr. Obama's speech: Quit the disproportionate number of robberies and murders to citizens of all colors and maybe, just maybe, you would not hear locking doors.
以下是引用花间在7/19/2013 7:35:00 PM 的发言：
哈哈，这个评论搞笑
Presidents usually speak to the public during prime time. Why does Obama speak to the American people at 1:30 pm .....when white people are at work? Is he not talking to us right now?
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虽然这个问题，是个问题，但是现在提出来，就是火上浇油，如果游行伤害到了商家，伤害到了，百姓，只会将种族歧视，黑白黄，推到对立面去。
大多的人都是这样，看新闻，老黑将华人珠宝店老板给割头了。为了抢劫，开枪杀了18月大的孩子。看了老黑暴打华人妈妈的视频。
虽然不至于恨老黑，但是下次看到有高大，带着HOODIE，看不清脸的老黑，是不是应该小心点呢？
如果你说你不担心，不用小心，我也不反对，毕竟，那时你选择。但是能说别人小心就是错误的。就不能提高警惕。
不用下次,一直这样
call me naive but i don't think he does that on purpose....... he needs to work on his public speech skills (like always)....... maybe a prayer for GM and his family would be better
这个总统是来搞笑的么，都当了5年总统了public speech skills还不过关啊。。。
以下是引用pops在7/19/2013 10:20:00 PM的发言：
玛的，现在是黑的欺负浅色人种，赤裸裸的，上至总统，下至街混混。。。。
以下是引用茉莉在7/19/2013 9:30:00 PM 的发言：
是的，作为一个群体，不在自己身上找问题，一味指责别人，那这个群体不会进步的。除了暴力，gang，还有单亲妈妈问题。随便哪一个，他作为黑人总统，都可以做一些什么，而不是去纠结一个个案，然后拼命往racism上靠。
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貌似这个名单里有旧金山，没有洛杉矶？
有LA
赞一下mm的回复，看看华人上大家对黑人的评论，就知道种族歧视和隔阂有多严重。和平游行向来都是争取权益的一种方法，我们在国内的时候说政府不让游行没有人权，现在过来看别人游行就说人家打砸抢危害社会。。。作为政客obama怎么可能不知道自己一字一句的后果，赞他的勇气和良心。不知到什么时候国内的政客也能有这样的魄力和口才。。。
你是不是都没听说过洛杉矶黑人大暴动的事儿？
不是IQ139吗？说出来的话怎么觉着大智若愚啊！无间道继续演下去，30年后历史会告诉大家！
Robert z的response比他好不知多少倍。。。
"Zimmerman is white Hispanic , 08 is white black..." from. CNN
咦？cnn难道要倒戈？
不会的，政治态度正确的很。紧跟总统脚步。马屁拍的很响。
不会的，政治态度正确的很。紧跟总统脚步。马屁拍的很响。