纽约华裔新冠死亡率高于任何族裔,是白人的1.5 倍

饿
饿狼陀
楼主 (文学城)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1251457

The results also show that while Chinese New Yorkers had lower test positivity and hospitalization rates than South Asians, they had the highest mortality rate of all racial and ethnic groups. Chinese New Yorkers had a mortality rate of 35.7 percent, compared to 25.5 percent for all Asian Americans and 23.7 percent for Black New Yorkers. They were also about 1.5 times more likely to die from Covid-19 than white patients.

d
dudaan
谢谢分享,信息很重要
d
dell_dell
为什么呢,是被医院区别对待了? 还是药物对东亚人不如其他人有效?
饿
饿狼陀
得病的人,人穷和基础病多,多是一线工作者(餐馆,出租车司机等),居住在狭小的拥挤空间。
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north88
死亡率这么高吗?100个病人里有30个死亡的?
饿
饿狼陀
估计说的是住院病人死亡率。
n
north88
什么叫相对死亡率?看不懂
饿
饿狼陀
T
TBz
这是亚裔的特点

统计上亚裔是有这个特点

 

n
north88
我想过这么理解,但是华人占总人口比例和这个比例差太多了,不敢信
饿
饿狼陀
理由:人穷和基础病多,多是一线工作者(餐馆,出租车司机等),居住在狭小的拥挤空间。
g
goingplace
据我所知很多去世的是住在老人院的,据说我们镇上的老人院走了一半以上的人。
h
hifriendshf
是老年人比例高的原因
p
pickshell
好像不大对哦。请看这里。。。

看下图,这是NY政府官网,因新冠死亡人数族裔比较,非裔最多,白人其次,亚裔相对少。
这里亚裔中没有再分割出华裔,就是说华裔死亡人数应包含在亚裔死亡人数内,应比亚裔人数更低。
在美国亚裔包含了华裔,韩裔,印度裔、菲律宾人等,在NY印度裔和韩裔是很大群体,在亚裔中比例可不小哦。
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https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data-totals.page


** 依据2019人口普查,NY各族裔所占总人口比例如下:(莫非LZ给的文里,死亡是按这人口比例算出来哒?)

White alone, percent  42.7%
Black or African American alone, percent(a)  24.3%
American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent(a)    0.4%
Asian alone, percent(a)  14.1%
饿
饿狼陀
你这个数据是整体族裔的每10 万人的平均死亡人数。 和上面文中描述的是两个不同概念。

文中所说的亚裔死亡率高和华裔最高,是指得新冠后亚裔或是华裔病人的死亡情况,和整体人群无关。

饿
饿狼陀
养老院是重灾区。
p
pickshell
看这样粗略推算下。。

按人口普查,假如 华裔占白人人口的1/3,那么因新冠死亡比例相同的话,华裔新冠死亡数应也是白人新冠死亡数的1/3.
就是说华裔因新冠死亡实际人数  远超出了1/3比例? 是这意思吗?

饿
饿狼陀
我想是的。因为没有原始数据,只能推测。其实很难断定原文作者的数据是怎么得来的。
饿
饿狼陀
华裔得新冠的人数少,一旦得了死亡率高。
k
kent928
可能解释之一:老中病得很重了才去看病做测试(样组是去NY公立医院测试COVID的人)

  Abstract

There is growing recognition of the burden of COVID-19 among Asian Americans, but data on outcomes among Asian ethnic subgroups remain extremely limited. We conducted a retrospective analysis of 85,328 patients tested for COVID-19 at New York City’s public hospital system between March 1 and May 31, 2020, to describe characteristics and COVID-19 outcomes of Asian ethnic subgroups compared to Asians overall and other racial/ethnic groups. South Asians had the highest rates of positivity and hospitalization among Asians, second only to Hispanics for positivity and Blacks for hospitalization. Chinese patients had the highest mortality rate of all groups and were nearly 1.5 times more likely to die than Whites. The high burden of COVID-19 among South Asian and Chinese Americans underscores the urgent needs for improved data collection and reporting as well as public health program and policy efforts to mitigate the disparate impact of COVID-19 among these communities.

k
kent928
No, the study already controlled for age, sex, and comorbidities

Multivariable logistic regression analyses were performed to assess whether racial/ethnic disparities in mortality persist after controlling for other demographics (i.e., sex, age) and comorbidities (e.g., diabetes, obesity) known to be associated with adverse outcomes from COVID-19 based on published literature. 

饿
饿狼陀
很好的解释
k
kingfish2010
有可能中国人传染上的是真正的第一波病毒, 毒性强。 如果有疫情的第二波数据, 9月份以后入院的, 可以比较3月份的数据

另外, 文章中这句怎么理解?

and at 54.7 percent, had the second-highest rate of Covid-19 hospitalizations, after Black people,

 

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xiaoxiao2013
这就是俺最担心的,有一些人说这是中国病毒,戴着中国脸的人去医院难免受歧视
饿
饿狼陀
我觉得不会的。美国医生和护士的职业操守还是很不错的。
k
kingfish2010
文章中这句逻辑似乎不通? and at 54.7 percent, had the second-highest rate o
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xiaoxiao2013
我相信你不会..但俺也相信CNN的报道是真时的,那个黑人医生就是死了,更别提俺们这些亚裔脸谁都不认识的人了
街西狗
这个解释靠谱。
s
slow_quick
这篇论文大概都是胡扯,几个数据比例一下就上传了。估计没什么意义

Mortality Rate 35.7%,什么病有那么高的mortality rate?肯定不靠谱

s
slow_quick
Covid-19 mortality rate 估计在0.5% 以下。。。

Covid-19一般认为感染死亡率0.5%以下。中东的MERS死亡率30%。2013年SARS死亡率10%

Covid-19阳性确诊的死亡率高许多,因为许多轻症的都没测。但没听说有30%的。

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

 

饿
饿狼陀
对不起,俺以前理解的不对。这个死亡率应该是住院病人死亡率。
l
lurenjia2014
这个病,老人死的多。统计结果应该根据年纪,才更有统计意义。

这个病,老人死的多。统计结果应该根据年纪,才更有统计意义。

l
lovelyRR
The positive rate of 54.7 percent is for Hispanics.
b
bakoma
还是要知道样本的大小