Pomona Computer Science Department Faces Faculty Shortage By The Student Life
Mirroring national trends, Pomona College computer science majors are having a hard time getting the classes they need due to a dramatic increase in interest over the past five years.
In Spring 2012, just six Pomona graduates were CS majors – this year the department expects to have 60 graduates, according to a campus-wide email sent by Chair of computer science Yuqing Wu.
With the increased interest in CS, the department used a pre-placement registration policy this semester. CS majors and minors filled out surveys indicating their interest in course offerings, which Wu spent hours reviewing before making decisions about which students would get seats in the offered courses. Students majoring in CS through Harvey Mudd College undergo a similar process.
Additionally, the department has been having issues with staffing. In her email to the student body, computer science professor Michelle Wu said that in 2011-2012 “we had 4 tenure-track CS faculty, this year we have 6.5 tenure-track faculty (though 1.5 are on leave) as well as 2.25 visitors.” The .25 refers to staff that exclusively works in labs, and .5 refers to professors who teach one course.
During Spring 2018 registration, some sophomores CS majors were unable to get into classes required for the major. In making their decisions, the department had to prioritize seniors and juniors to make sure they enrolled in the classes they need to graduate next semester, Wu said.
Additionally, some seniors who have already completed their major requirements were not able to register for higher-level elective courses. CS major Matthew Gee PO ’18 said he wanted to take higher-level CS classes next semester, but was unable to register.
“I am done with the major, so it doesn’t really matter,” Gee wrote in an e-mail to TSL. “But it would have been nice to take more classes I am interested in.”
Junior CS major Wentao Guo PO ’19 was originally not pre-registered for any of CS classes. He was eventually able to get into a class at Harvey Mudd after telling his professor that unless he got in, he wouldn’t be taking any CS classes this semester.
Now, as his second semester of his junior year approaches, Guo hopes to take two more CS courses, one of which will be relevant to his senior thesis.
“It would be nice to be able to take the course now, so that I can think about it over the summer,” he said. Given the current situation, though, Guo thinks the chances he'll be able to enroll are low.
In her email, Wu identified that the problem results from the fact that “the increase in enrollments has not been matched by the increase in faculty or resources, such as space or funding, of the department.”
As a result, the department has been forced to increase class sizes. Though the average Pomona class size is 15, CS introductory courses now enroll 30, 40, or 50 students.
“These large classes put a lot of strain on the faculty, student mentors, and students,” Wu wrote. “We can’t increase class sizes any further without significantly jeopardizing quality.”
Elvis Kahoro PO ’20 has started a petition to ask Pomona to hire more CS professors and ease the strain on the department. He hopes the petition, which has been signed by more than 300 students in just three days, will convince the Pomona's Faculty Position Advisory Committee to act.
The standard policy of the colleges is that the department cannot hire more than one professor per year. Kahoro hopes convince the administration to hire at least two.
Kahoro thinks the students who are the most affected by the large class sizes are groups that are typically underrepresented in CS – women and students of color.
“People who are really good at making themselves visible are able to get themselves more access to the professors,” he said.
During the 2019-2020 academic year, Pomona College handed out 34 bachelor's degrees in computer science. Due to this, the school was ranked #283 in popularity out of all colleges and universities that offer this degree.
先请教是否学CS最好的地点是在CA的学校？ 我看加州公立大学CS专业的竞争太强了， 不知道私立或者liberty art 学校是否容易进去和毕业一点？ 请问有加州的学校可以推荐的吗？请问有了解pomona college和它的 的CS专业的吗？多谢多谢！！
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那个时候已经绝大多数学校包括CC都有CS的program了。
你要是连这点都不知道，就不要谈小P了
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https://www.pomona.edu/about/profile-who-goes-pomona
抱怨CS教授短缺
https://tsl.news/news7144/
November 17, 2017 11:38 am
Pomona Computer Science Department Faces Faculty Shortage By The Student LifeMirroring national trends, Pomona College computer science majors are having a hard time getting the classes they need due to a dramatic increase in interest over the past five years.
In Spring 2012, just six Pomona graduates were CS majors – this year the department expects to have 60 graduates, according to a campus-wide email sent by Chair of computer science Yuqing Wu.
With the increased interest in CS, the department used a pre-placement registration policy this semester. CS majors and minors filled out surveys indicating their interest in course offerings, which Wu spent hours reviewing before making decisions about which students would get seats in the offered courses. Students majoring in CS through Harvey Mudd College undergo a similar process.
Additionally, the department has been having issues with staffing. In her email to the student body, computer science professor Michelle Wu said that in 2011-2012 “we had 4 tenure-track CS faculty, this year we have 6.5 tenure-track faculty (though 1.5 are on leave) as well as 2.25 visitors.” The .25 refers to staff that exclusively works in labs, and .5 refers to professors who teach one course.
During Spring 2018 registration, some sophomores CS majors were unable to get into classes required for the major. In making their decisions, the department had to prioritize seniors and juniors to make sure they enrolled in the classes they need to graduate next semester, Wu said.
Additionally, some seniors who have already completed their major requirements were not able to register for higher-level elective courses. CS major Matthew Gee PO ’18 said he wanted to take higher-level CS classes next semester, but was unable to register.
“I am done with the major, so it doesn’t really matter,” Gee wrote in an e-mail to TSL. “But it would have been nice to take more classes I am interested in.”
Junior CS major Wentao Guo PO ’19 was originally not pre-registered for any of CS classes. He was eventually able to get into a class at Harvey Mudd after telling his professor that unless he got in, he wouldn’t be taking any CS classes this semester.
Now, as his second semester of his junior year approaches, Guo hopes to take two more CS courses, one of which will be relevant to his senior thesis.
“It would be nice to be able to take the course now, so that I can think about it over the summer,” he said. Given the current situation, though, Guo thinks the chances he'll be able to enroll are low.
In her email, Wu identified that the problem results from the fact that “the increase in enrollments has not been matched by the increase in faculty or resources, such as space or funding, of the department.”
As a result, the department has been forced to increase class sizes. Though the average Pomona class size is 15, CS introductory courses now enroll 30, 40, or 50 students.
“These large classes put a lot of strain on the faculty, student mentors, and students,” Wu wrote. “We can’t increase class sizes any further without significantly jeopardizing quality.”
Elvis Kahoro PO ’20 has started a petition to ask Pomona to hire more CS professors and ease the strain on the department. He hopes the petition, which has been signed by more than 300 students in just three days, will convince the Pomona's Faculty Position Advisory Committee to act.
The standard policy of the colleges is that the department cannot hire more than one professor per year. Kahoro hopes convince the administration to hire at least two.
Kahoro thinks the students who are the most affected by the large class sizes are groups that are typically underrepresented in CS – women and students of color.
“People who are really good at making themselves visible are able to get themselves more access to the professors,” he said.
另外两个非CS的人就比较少。
我觉得能进小P的profile应该也能进中小藤。
https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/pomona-college/academic-life/academic-majors/computer-information-sciences/computer-science/#rankings
Popularity of CompSci at Pomona
During the 2019-2020 academic year, Pomona College handed out 34 bachelor's degrees in computer science. Due to this, the school was ranked #283 in popularity out of all colleges and universities that offer this degree.
以保有个好排名，或不想让孩子太竞争但又有个CS名的选择小P
主要是UC转向holistic, 亚裔学生很多成绩不错但是进不了好点的UC，就去了SCU
学校就像保姆，教授对学生无微不至，把他们惯坏了 90%的人没听说过，听说过的会问你是不是Cal Poly Pomona
如果录取了，不去的就是crazy，除非大S也取了，嘿嘿
后来才了解原来如此美好，这位学经济已经毕业在纽约做投资航空行业的基金
大学校课多也不是每门都上的，重要的是和谁一起上课
https://www.scrippscollege.edu/news/stem/spotlight-on-seniors-rui-jie-yew-21-explores-the-human-side-of-computer-science
因为和社会/公司接触的还是不像几个CS旗舰大学接触面更广。
但是五校联合是不是可以互相选课,research而弥补老师不如大校多的问题。总之要自己申请前研究下。
UCB/UCLA的CS不如小P的CS？不是一个档次的？lol 这里的人要笑死了
所以我也认同不同学校学生的Pool 不一样，即使学差不多的理论，学得好坏和掌握的深度也是不一样的。
你跟我绕什么逻辑啊？你应该找逻辑思维不清的人去绕啊
我昨天听到的是今年CS录取出人意外的很多，有一个女娃，GPA4.0， 有社区义工，有校队体育EC，一般的奖项也有 （AIME+USACO），今年申请只录取了UCSB，Purdue，SCU。后来去了Purdue。湾区大公高。
LAC只有本科。觉得广度肯定少。但是另一方面小孩也不会选所有的课程。所以不知道课的广度在本科教育到底站多大影响。
ED的话可能性如何？ 多谢
学CS为主来设置该校的，如果CS启蒙课只有50多人的话，按正常1/3 左右drop out 来算，到最后基本上就是十几名学生学高年级的课，可想而知教授水平和CS 系整体水平
https://www.wenxuecity.com/bbs/znjy/5294432.html
小学校最大优势是和教授同学的strong bonding, 这点无论大公校还是大私校都比不了。
参观时还介绍小P的学生有足够research机会, 因为没有研究生和他们抢。
我唯一不清楚的是这种集中在本科水平的research和有研究生的学校的科研有啥不同。
特别热衷social activity的亚裔小孩, 去小P真的很合适。
想上LAC，那就多报几家好了。WASP都报上。还有 Bowdoin 也很好。