大藤 Legacy

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BeLe
楼主 (文学城)

Legacy in undergraduate admission

 

Harvard:   父母哈佛本科毕业

"Fitzsimmons also said that Harvard's undergraduate population is comprised of approximately 12 to 13 percent legacies, a group he defined as children of Harvard College alumni and Radcliffe College alumnae."

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2011/5/11/admissions-fitzsimmons-legacy-legacies/

 

 

Yale:   父母耶鲁本科,研究生毕业

"legacies — students with one or both parents who attended Yale College, graduate or professional schools — have a “hook” in the admissions game."

https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2005/02/16/legacies-still-maintain-edge-in-admissions/

 

 

Princeton:   父母普林本科,研究生毕业

“To be a legacy, a student must have a parent or step-parent who attended Old Nassau. Undergraduate and graduate alumni ties hold the same weight. While admissions staff are aware of applicants who have siblings at Princeton, they don’t receive preferential treatment and need to be competitive in their own right. 

Yet as Dan Lee said, “not all legacies are created equal.” He explained that top universities — including Princeton — rank their legacy applicants. The children whose parent contributed more time or money to their alma mater are prioritized over those who gave less. ”

https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2020/06/princeton-admissions-legacy-athletics-recruitment-testing-waitlist

 

 

Stanford:   父母斯坦佛本科,研究生毕业

"At Stanford, “legacy” applicants are defined as the children of Stanford graduates at either the undergraduate or graduate level. With respect to philanthropy, Stanford does not document in admission files the donor status of all applicants' families. However, some applicants' files may contain a notation about their family’s giving. In the large majority of these cases, the parents of the applicants are also graduates of Stanford. Philanthropy plays a significant role in supporting the opportunities available to all students at Stanford, including the ability to attend the university through our program of need-based financial aid."

https://provost.stanford.edu/2020/06/26/admissions-considerations/#:~:text=At%20Stanford%2C%20%E2%80%9Clegacy%E2%80%9D%20applicants,status%20of%20all%20applicants'%20families.?

 

 

MIT:   没有Legacy

"Just To Be Clear: We Don't Do Legacy"

https://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/just-to-be-clear-we-dont-do-legacy/

 

 

 

 

B
BeLe
读Advanced Degrees的话, 尽量去Yale, Princeton, or Stanford?
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tibuko
都是典型的雾里看花
四叶之草
谢谢仔细收集和分享!
四叶之草
这俩个星期在紫檀上真是学到了很多牛家长的做事严谨精益求精的方式和无私的分享
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fanersai


咱家真有T5的legacy。娃申请的时候,还收到学校招生办的信。大意就是谢谢校友娃申请,学校会认真考虑。信里还列出了legacy的录取率,20%左右。的确比普通申请的录取率高很多。可惜咱娃太差,当时申请纯属赞助,学校也就勉为其难,给发封安慰函。

凡尔赛完毕。

成功的孔雀
能否多写俩字给大家拨开云雾?

统计说校友子女录取率高

观察说校友子女比非校友子女牛值低

 

成功的兔
太牛了
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tibuko
哈佛毕业的端盘子的不少,他们的下一代申请的时候,哈佛有什么动力给他们照顾?
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fantasticdream
问题是Y/P的医法商工的硕/博有些专业有点软

尤其是P,没有医法商。

 

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fantasticdream
有个统计说某校

录取的校友子女的成绩不比正常录取的学生差,但没有比较EC。

我知道的几个靠legacy进去的成绩不差,但EC明显偏弱。

 

 

眼镜
感觉今年各藤校根本顾不上Legacy的事儿

今年这情况,各个藤校都没法像平常一样按部就班的招生了。熊娃在一小众EC项目做到顶尖的成绩,往年也许哪个藤校眼一花就可能有兴趣,今年彻底没戏。

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nnn333
不捐钱的或者捐的少的legacy也就呵呵了
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lookforward
今年优先考虑的就是Legacy URM 1stGen LowIncome

 

 

 

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4BigFive
legacy也是分三六九等的。研究生不是亲生的,没钱捐一样做分母。
成功的孔雀
哈佛势利,只偏心成功人士LOL
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Bebe54321
今年BLM年
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newca
没错。不捐款的占不到legacy 便宜。邻居两口子都是H,孩子在学校还是top GPA, 没进去H,她说legacy 没用

比较起不捐款的校友孩子,搞不好学校更想入取非校友子女。

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greenoasis
顾得上啊

看看早申录取了的学生里各类别的比例就知道了。

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greenoasis
会不会一看爹妈是校友但是从来没捐款,反而坚决不要?lol.
如愿了
Y legacy 的比例在遂年减少。legacy 在不远的将来会被取消的。
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greenoasis
那耶鲁学生和州大学生的家庭成分会不会变得差不多? 那耶鲁还是耶鲁吗?
c
cczz
正确
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quantnj
会的,如果我是AO -:)
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newca
Legacy都是为学校要么出钱要么出力的legacy. 一般legacy没用
四叶之草
Shouldn’t they donate some as their budget allows?
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newca
捐款的legacy应该还是会看的。
兔8
看来应该本科H后,去SYP读个硕士毕业?

有限统计,有来客稀,女生AIME男生USAMO都能进H

眼镜
对大藤,捐款的事很容易误导。偶尔捐款或临时抱佛脚没用,即使数量大。长期捐款的校友才有可能
四叶之草
How much would need to be donated in order to make an impact? I
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acreek
反例,我们这近几年进AIME的女生没有一个被H录取的,男生AMO绝大多数也进不了H

女生倒是都进了M

眼镜
现在看来,legacy显得那么不合时宜。是该废除了
眼镜
最好要打动学校 :)
眼镜
大藤只有M看重USAMO和AIME之类的
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lookforward
说的是有legacy的
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acreek
这个翻译LOL
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lookforward
legacy子女起点已经比平均高,升学还要受照顾,的确说不过去
四叶之草
我看到早录的基本都是legacy, donation and recruited athletes
兔8
其实都看重,只是不愿与M争
眼镜
笑话
兔8
就当是个笑话吧。LOL
凊荷
LOL
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greenoasis
大藤们互相太客气,这学生不是就惨了?
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newca
学校是有信要求捐款的,但她们没怎么捐过,倒不是没钱就是很忙,没在意过
潭影空心
data point

参加过两个家长见面会,华裔孩子都是靠自己本事录取, 老美孩子一半以上是legacy或者double legacy。

成功的孔雀
所以用了“牛值”,光成绩好对别人不够,对他们就够了
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m1688
EA和RD亚裔的录取比例差不多,小中早申有利。白人RD有利。
四娃兔妈
耐心等待,RD 会有big surprise. Good luck.
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niweb1
也可能是女生自己选的m?
四叶之草
谢谢
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haoren3
Legacy对于学校百年长青至关重要。