FYI:Long-dist running add years to vascular age to male

选民
楼主 (文学城)

The research, funded by the British Heart Foundation (BHF) and Cardiac Risk in the Young (CRY) and presented at the British Cardiovascular Society (BCS) conference in Manchester, showed that older male athletes had a stiffer aorta.

 

It found that the vascular age of male athletes’ aorta was almost 10 years older than their chronological age, whereas female athletes showed no overall age difference.

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2022/jun/endurance-exercise-may-affect-bodys-largest-artery-differently-men-and-women

 

 

喵儿爸
What's the difference between the vascular age and

chronological age in all males older than 40? Older or younger? And by how much?

选民
When you get older, your vascular artery becomes stiffer.

As I understand, this research shows that the stiffness of the vascular artery of male long distance runners are comparable to those of general population 10 years older.

 

 

喵儿爸
It seems I can't wrap my mind around this. The result sounds

as bad as smoking. 

选民
Me neither, but UCL is one of the world best universities

Their studies worth of attention.

喵儿爸
Doctors, say something? 落花,小布,小君?
旺One旺
样本: over 300 ‘masters’ athletes. 有多少人能达到他们的强度?
落花飘零
我找了半天没找到原文,不看原文啥都没法说

Dr Rebecca Hughes (UCL Institute of Cardiovascular Science and Barts Heart Centre), who led the study, said: “Previous studies into long-term endurance exercise have mainly focused on men, so there is little research available which studies how this impacts female athletes.

文章好像还没有正式发表,只是做了presentation,我查了上面这个leaing researcher的 profile,她名字下没有这个文章

 

Dr Rebecca Hughes   [email protected]        
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xiaojunhuang
我也没找到原文,不过这个STUDY只是一个EXPERT OPINION吧,短短的介绍中没看到有纵向的比较哈

找到这一篇很老的1999年四月份的研究报告 Preserved vascular reactivity in elderly male athletes

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10220842/

至少有个横向比较,结果表示运动员的动脉是LESS STIFF AND BETTER VASODILATORY CAPACITY. 

落花飘零
对,parameter很重要,怎么测量的血管年龄,好像是他们自己come up的一个protocol,没有其他信息
布兰雅
我也找了半天,几个链接挨个点了一下。后来一忙就没再找。

这个是推特文的新闻口气,不是报导。找到观察的报告原文才好说。样本也不大。300个?一半女的?他们的锻炼水平是什么档次的,什么样的人群,生活习惯。国籍,人种,喝酒么?

UCL是好学校,柳叶刀以前也是非常严肃的。这个观察(还不是结论)响声大。所以那些"May"离结论还早。我相信他们的数据是诚实的,但是样本没看到。以前说适量饮酒对心血管有好处。现在看来是被其他参数掩盖了的不正确结论。

落花飘零
不过那个作者有句话说的很对,大部分运动医学的data都是从男性运动员身上获得,对女运动员

特别是像我们这种年纪的data太少了。其实也是一种医学上遗留很久的性别观念

落花飘零
exactly。关于骨关节炎也是如此

很多人说跑步伤膝盖啥的。其实和不运动的人相比,坚持运动的人的关节炎几率更低,当然到了竞技程度另当别论,

我看到太多太多,年纪不大,就腰酸背痛,一身的亚健康说也说不清楚的病痛。

布兰雅
上次坛子里在讨论马拉松成绩和年龄的关系。我有个构思,却还是没写出来。类似。
布兰雅
女性古代禁止奥运会。女子马拉松历史更是只有30年左右的数据。现在发现女子耐力好。

很多耐力赛男的干不过。比如超马。

也可以理解,男的爆发力强,女性耐力强。

但目前下去结论还早。因为数据确实不够。第一代跑马女性还健在呢。更别说超马了。

落花飘零
你做个好人,要了paper跟我们分享一下呗