说说今年CS毕业的两个华人女孩

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Erin123
楼主 (文学城)

网上总是听到有人争论,CS专业的人说收入有多高,他们的工资大多数是吹出来的,有很大水分,怎么可能会有那么高的工资呢?IT这个行业离我很远,最近我身边的两个女孩毕业,都是IT专业。

A是很强的州大,专业CS,从大二就在某大公司实习了。大二时校园招聘会上,排队入场时,A排第一个,招聘人员欣赏她很积极向上,公司就要了她做实习生。刚开始时是27美刀每小时,大三时工资就张到36美刀了。后来,学校功课之外,每个星期都有一些时间去公司工作,毕业时学生贷款都付清了。毕业后公司想留下她,她不情愿,说公司年轻人太少了,没有生气,顺利找到了新公司。

B是牛校EECS专业,大学时学得很辛苦。经常抱怨说,同宿舍的历史专业的女生,每天10点不到就睡觉了,还门门是A,我经常忙到午夜一点,还拿不到A,是不是我的智力跟不上?大三时在一个小公司实习两个月,因为学业太重了,不想太大压力,有时间就是谈恋爱和旅游。最近也在Mountain View找到了大公司,每小时58美刀,很开心的!

这样看来,IT和学医的收入不相上下。没有必要推学医一条路,就看孩子兴趣了。

 

 


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myguinea1
115 楼
很多医生早早就退休了,比码工可有钱,生活质量杠杠的。
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rr6mumu
114 楼
和一个病人打一次打交道并不难,难的是一辈子和病人打交道,不能间断
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grade6
113 楼
电脑现在已经不是青春饭了,很多都是越老越香。是否累和年龄无关,和公司文化有关,嫌累的去节奏慢的公司养老很舒服啊

电脑技术的延续性和与商业实践的整合越来越好,写码的工具也越来越省力,所以年轻人的优势不大了。电脑工作团队气氛好,比医生每天见病人和呆在诊所里不一样的。老了不缺钱做合同工,每年休假几个月,蛮好的。

愚说
112 楼
应该是做金融的吧? 做CS的不会有这么高的bonus。
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weishema
111 楼
女儿CS今年大二,已经敲定summber intern $35一小时。好几个offer. 有时新40刀加住房的但是在纽约,她不想

 

🛋️ 沙发板凳

篱笆08
这一行应该薪水差别比较大,看公司,看项目,看需要用人的程度,也要看水平。你说的情况属实,别人说的高薪情况也是属实。
篱笆08
这一行应该薪水差别比较大,看公司,看项目,看需要用人的程度,也要看水平。你说的情况属实,别人说的高薪情况也是属实。

怎么融洽同子女的关系?

·不要监控孩子的电话,尊重其隐私权。

·对孩子的朋友要和蔼可亲,但不要同他们过于亲近。不要侵入他(她)的天地。

·不要在他人面前夸奖孩子,这样会使其尴尬。

·不要在他人面前批评或斥责孩子。如果必须要这样做的话,应该在无人的时候。

·母亲在他人面前要注意服饰。母亲的形象不整洁,孩子会感到羞耻。

·如果你的孩子参加学校的演出,他(她)在舞台上时你不要打手势,这样会令他(她)紧张,甚至出错。

·孩子和你一起坐自己家的车出门时,不要把汽车收音机调到你所喜爱的频道。让孩子挑选电台,但可要求他调低音量。

·在子女需要帮助时要给予帮助,但要注意方法。

·子女在一定的阶段就像需要食品一样需要爱抚,但是爱抚要适可而止,不要在公开场合这样做,更不要在朋友面前这样做。

·不要让你的孩子在外人面前表现他的“本事”,如朗诵、唱歌、跳舞或弹钢琴。如果你为他的本领自豪并希望让人家看到,那就对他提出请求。如果父母坚持让他们在外人面前表现本领,有的孩子会感觉自己像马戏团的猴子。

·不要向他的朋友和亲属讲他的怪癖,尤其不要当他的面前。任何孩子都不愿意别人知道自己的隐私。

·不要让他失去对你的信赖。他向你透露的秘密,你不要告诉别人。你一定要完全尊重他的意愿。

·在他面前不要说谎。他看到自己的父母说谎或弄虚作假,就会感觉不好。例如,父母在某人背后说坏话,而当面又装出热情的样子,孩子就会反感。

下页:父母教育是家庭教育成败的关键

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Geffen
LZ 意思是说CS高,没吹牛啊,不然怎么劝人可以和医一样选CS么
平常心安
篱笆眼里的高薪远远不止那个数
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Geffen
时薪58,周薪2320,年薪十万出头,刚毕业的孩子,可以了。
篱笆08
若干年前,M本科出来的小丫头就有上十万的了。
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Geffen
干还是千?
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skyport
毛估估年薪12万,很不错
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Geffen
没有,要度假的。一年怎么也要去掉几周。
篱笆08
你说呢?
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skyport
度假都带薪的啊,标准一年15天
吹着吹着就牛了
这个年薪, 现在在硅谷可以过怎样的生活?
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Geffen
那为啥要讲时薪啊?月薪年薪不就得了?
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gegenion
时薪58,以每年工作2000小时计(full time),base年薪也要11万6千啦,这收入是相当不错的。 赞!
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skyport
可能看了工资单了,上面有时薪
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skyport
年轻女孩自己花很不错了,买买包包,衣服,化妆品花不了多少。这里码工也都是nerd,不太讲究
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Geffen
硅谷什么考死考,沃尔玛,麦当劳的收银员都高于10万么?
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skyport
不可能
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Geffen
那这么多人怎么活下来的?
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skyport
俺一个出租房,两卧室里曾经住了8个人。穷人生活很艰苦的
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Geffen
你一人收一千都超过CS高薪了。大地主啊
槐花王
我娃说他们正在

罢工,要求长工资。 我觉得很合理,凭什么其他行业都低工资么。

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skyport
瞎扯,房租哪有按人头收钱的?

住的人太多,被俺的PM赶走了。这年头经济算好的,可是穷人日子也不好过

 

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skyport
CS没有工会的,没听说有罢工的
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Geffen
你娃不是还在学校么?怎么就罢工了?
槐花王
是说服务行业罢工
平常心安
要照这样算的话,11万一年租不起一个Bed4000, 只能和人合租。天港,我要和你攀亲,将来我闺女去硅谷工作就不愁住的地方啦 :
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skyport
11万租房子绝对没问题,别听他胡说
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newca
硅谷除了房子外其他好像也不贵。而且房子租金没有特别贵。不买房,租房住应该活的不累
槐花王
你不是问其他行业么,我娃

刚去那里,正好碰到罢工的

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Geffen
贵公子到硅谷去了?恭喜啊。找天港租房要折扣
平常心安
别怕,俺家闺女租你家房子也行,看在子坛战友份上租金便宜点哈 
又当爹来又当妈
你看,

又招惹是非,哈哈哈哈

槐花王
小看人不是?俺现金给娃买房

(听说这样说话好找媳妇儿)

平常心安
Lol
高筋粉
咱俩结亲家吧!这么有钱!
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skyport
那当然,就怕你家千金看不上俺的房子LOL
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Morning3evening4
隔壁老张学医的女儿呢?CS/医生组合现在很流行哦。。。

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Geffen
对喔,槐花公子和你闺女好像一般大
喜狼狼
IT是青春饭
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Geffen
房子看不上不是还有儿子么
槐花王
其实,我这人比较低调啊

钱对俺来说,不是个事。对亲家,俺就更大方了 。 

这么地吧,你选个地方,我请你吃饭,咱俩好好讨论结亲家的事。 千万别客气,哪儿贵选哪哈,我就不喜欢人家给我省钱。 

给儿媳妇的金戒指已经准备好了,太沉,哪天大卡车拉你家给你看看。

平常心安
我家丫头还有好几年才上大学,要是将来能上你家旁边的学校就好了
高筋粉
行了您嘞,咱QQH谈吧,别让别人插一脚进来
平常心安
不知道IT;但CS应该不是的。
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skyport
离俺家最近的就是S啊,预祝你家千金心想事成
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Sarahzhou
这个好,但很辛苦。
终于不潜水了
天下有这么好的事情?别是有什么附带条件吧?看看

http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/joke/962174.html

 

槐花王
不是怕

她家有学贷么。我现在有机会就鼓捣老张给他孩子付学费。

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skyport
儿子也是熊娃啊,子坛所有招婿标准都达不到LOL
平常心安
谢谢你的预祝。天,地,人,S三个都占了,是最理想的大学。
槐花王
哈哈哈哈哈哈,很匹配的亲家
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Morning3evening4
LOL。。。老张也来这里聊天的。。。
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FollowNature
人生很短。 应该做自己喜欢做的事, 当然前提是有个可以养家糊口的工作。
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anothertreeinthedese
科普一下我呗:IT和CS有什么区别呢?
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Geffen
CS就是编程,IT涵盖软硬件网络维护等
神斗斛
华人论坛居然搞不清IT和CS区别?! 居然把IT工作和医生
加州阳光123
那岂不让那谁悲痛欲绝?人家可是准备好了孙子孙女的钱的 哈哈哈
神斗斛
华人论坛居然搞不清IT和CS区别?! 居然把IT工作和医生收入相提并论?!12万的收入在硅谷就是基础级别的.学IT挺好的, 但别
追梦人1028
提供一个数据吧。儿子CS专业,明年毕业,已经接受一个投行offer。150K, sign in bonus 75k.
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Morning3evening4
Difference Between a Computer Science & Information Technology D

  (ZTfrom https://online.king.edu/information-technology/difference-between-a-computer-science-information-technology-degree/ ) Computer Science

computer scientists are, in fact, scientists. They are focused with the theory of computational applications. That means they understand the “why” behind computer programs. Using algorithms and advanced mathematics, computer scientists invent new ways to manipulate and transfer information. Computer scientists are generally concerned with software, operating systems and implementation.

Like Neo in The Matrix, computer scientists can see and make sense of code. Computer science students will learn the fundamentals of different programming languages, linear and discrete mathematics, and software design and development. Computer scientists study the machine itself and understand how and why various computer processes operate the way they do.

Simply put, computer scientists can talk to computers. The field is based in mathematics—the language of computers. Computer scientists understand why computers work and can create a program or operating system that does what you want it to do.

Careers in Computer Science

Computer science is a rapidly growing field and is expected to see large increases in employment opportunities. High salaries are generally associated with computer science careers. If you’re pursuing a computer science degree, the following career paths are open to you:

Applications software developer: As the creative minds behind applications and programs, software developers design and build programs and applications for computers and technological devices. Angry Birds? A software developer made that. Microsoft Office? That would be software developers again. The median salary for a software developer is $98,260. Systems engineer: Operating systems provide the foundation for computers and devices to function. Microsoft Windows, Linux, and iOS are examples of types of operating systems. Systems engineers design and create those types of systems for use in personal computers, phones, and even cars. According to PayScale, the median pay for systems engineers is $76,593. Web developer: Web developers are not graphic designers. Graphic designers create the images you see on websites; web developers program the code that makes a website function. Web developers integrate the graphics, audio, and video into the site and monitor the site’s traffic, performance, and capacity. The median salary for a web developer is $64,970. Computer Engineering

To put it bluntly, computer engineers make computer parts work together. Computer engineers are responsible for the research, design and development of computer equipment like circuit boards, microchips, routers, video cards, etc. Some universities may treat this discipline as an off-shoot of electrical engineering.

It is beneficial for computer engineers to have a grasp of computer science. Computer engineers often deal with hardware-to-software integration, meaning they have to design and build processors and hardware that can support a given program. As technology advances and our devices become smaller and smaller, a main goal of computer engineers is to create microchips and microprocessors that work economically and efficiently.

Computer engineering students will study concepts in computer science, engineering and mathematics. By combining these three fields, computer engineers are able to solve hardware problems and create state-of-the-art machines that can handle the many tasks computers perform.

Careers in Computer Engineering

There’s not a lot of diversity in job titles in the computer engineering world. Diversity in the job comes from the various industries that employ computer engineers. You can find employment rates and median salary information for the top four industries in which computer engineers work below:

Federal government: As of 2010, the federal government employed 7 percent of all computer engineers. The median annual pay for computer engineers working for the federal government is $108,490. Computer and electronic product manufacturing: The majority of computer engineers work in this industry. The median salary for computer engineers in product manufacturing is $115,560. Computer systems design and related services: Many computer engineers also work in systems design. The median pay for computer engineers in this industry is $112,160. Scientific research and development services: Some computer engineers are employed by research firms. The median salary for computer engineers in research settings is $117,650. Information Technology

Information technology (IT) may adopt the monikers information systems or systems administration. Essentially, IT professionals are the users of technology. IT utilizes existing operating systems, software and applications in tandem to create a larger system that solves a specific business problem. IT constructs a network from established building blocks to carry out a task, such as an automated supplies ordering service.

Due to the nature of the work, IT professionals are more likely to interact with clients and co-workers outside of their department. They may help explain to a client how to solve technology problems or work with executives and business owners to construct a technology plan that will meet their business needs.

IT students will study network and database design in depth, and receive an introduction to basic theory and applied mathematics. Successful IT candidates will possess strong critical thinking skills; IT professionals are tasked with resourcefully and cost-effectively applying the tools at their disposal.

Careers in Information Technology

At every level, from mom-and-pop shops to multinational corporations, businesses need IT. Over the next decade, career opportunities in IT are expected to grow faster than average. Depending on your level of education, a degree in IT can provide a comfortable paycheck.

Information security analyst: IT security analysts work to prevent cyberattacks by monitoring their business’ network for breaches and weak spots and to create emergency plans in the event of an attack. The median annual salary for information security analysts is $90,120. Network architect: Sometimes called network engineers, these IT professionals design and build communication networks, such as local area networks (LANs), wide area networks (WANs), and intranets. The median annual salary for network architects is $100,240. Computer support specialist: Support specialists provide advice and troubleshooting help to individuals and businesses that have questions about their software. The median salary for computer support specialists is $51,470. Database administrator: DBAs use software and programs to organize and store data for businesses that range from financial firms to shipping companies. The median annual salary for this role is $81,710. Systems administrator: System administrators conduct the day-to-day maintenance and operation of a business’ networks, including LANs, WANs, intranets, and other communication systems. Salaries for this position vary by industry. The median annual pay for system administrators is $77,810. Summary

To sum it up (and maybe oversimplify a bit), computer engineers design and build computers. Computer scientists design and develop computer programs, software, and applications. IT professionals then use and troubleshoot those programs, software, and applications. These three professions all work together to make sure hardware, software, and user interface (UI) come together smoothly so that computers can carry out the tasks businesses and individuals need from them.

It might help to imagine it like this: Computer engineers are architects and construction workers. They design and build a house. Computer scientists are the electricians, plumbers, and installation specialists who put lights, running water, and appliances in the house. IT professionals live in the house and use appliances effectively and efficiently for a desired effect. There is some overlap within these three fields. Essentially, they exist in subsections of the same discipline, performing complementary different tasks that fit together like a gear. Hopefully the distinctions between the three professional areas are now clear. If IT is where you want to be, King University can get you there. Earning your online Bachelor’s in Information Technology is the first step toward a high-paying, in-demand career.

All career and salary information is courtesy of the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) unless otherwise stated. King University has a reputation for academic excellence that goes beyond the classroom. Our online degree programs position graduates for an exceptional career or continued educational opportunities. Make an investment in your future with an online degree from King University.

高筋粉
祝贺!太牛了!
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haochigui
知道几个牛校学计算机的二年级学生,都已经找到明年暑假实习了,每月8千到一万二收入,已包括房贴。

知道几个牛校学计算机的二年级学生,都已经找到明年暑假实习了,每月8千到一万二收入,已包括房贴。

名校FAN
房贴怎么算?$2000/month?
追梦人1028
大公司常常有房租补助,我儿子是1k/month
白色非色
这样的话,冒着当电灯泡太亮的危险,俺也得瞅一眼了 LOL
月亮_66
才工作就拿这么多,很好了
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genier7
作为CS圈内人 不明白为什么lz写时薪,难道做码工不是基本按年薪算么?

一般本科毕业 大公司可以年薪13w base,加上signon bonus几万刀,然后股票十来万(分四年)

每年根据performance有股票和现金bonus 

本科毕业每年的package (一般算法是四年拿到所有的钱除以4来算)基本上18w税前应该有

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Oona
哈哈哈哈,你两一起可以说相声。
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beachlver
恭喜! 150K是base还是total(w/bonus)? 工作是前台金融,还是CS?

Sign-on 75k is very good 

小团圆
高妹你太瘦金子重你拿不了我去帮你拿怎么样。
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jjqqkk
马工20年的人告诉你一个惨痛事实。50不到上有老下有小的时候就做不动了

然后公司专门layoff,或是用小年轻push你出局。选这行,好自为之吧。

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amiyumi
合同工啊。
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OneManArmy
恭喜
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OneManArmy
大家都是合同工 :)
小团圆
牛娃!
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genier7
如果合同工的话 年收入都要打折

一般contractor很少提供医疗保险 401k等等福利,或者基本就是没有。再加上holiday也不算工资,任何请假也拿不到钱。hourly rate $58的话 完全不请假也只能拿110k,而且还没benefit。还是fulltime position来的划算

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gegenion
估计是看工资单了, 工资单上只标时薪, YTD, etc
有言
好!-:)
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60MPH
有股票(stock award)没有?
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amiyumi
contractor这个工资在硅谷应该根本不算什么的。
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haochigui
知道的房贴,少则$1000,最多的$4000,也有给房子住,不给房贴的。
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haochigui
20年,加州房价上下几次,多少人房子都搞几套了。还不说遇到上市的。
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kai2002
只见新人笑,不见旧人哭。
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7Sle
“这样看来,IT和学医的收入不相上下”。。。医生快出来说说啊 :)
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haochigui
一些专科医生会很高收入吧。但是读太长时间,不是每个人都愿意的,各人喜欢吧。
追梦人1028
没有。但是说每年6万bonus
追梦人1028
不包括bonus。说每年bonus是6万
追梦人1028
他只是CS
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shuitongyao
Amazon,加州每月$3000,交通费报销,facebook提供吃住交通
瞎扯淡
什么样的工资单上有时薪数?只有做contractor的
瞎扯淡
什么饭不是青春饭?人老了都要淘汰,除了老板。
瞎扯淡
懂不懂base和compensation package的不同?和你儿子一起追梦吧
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GuoLuke2
医生越老越吃香。码工正相反。
连木带瓦
我家儿子学经济,2012毕业时拿到8个offer,其中有牛街CS,但他申请的是前台金融,

最终,去了一个大公司。干了二年多,(轻松的练了一身肌肉),又幸运进入牛街。虽然,挣的很多,但不到两个月肌肉全丢了。撑了尽3年,逃到一个大银行,但还是每天工作12个小时。作为父母,我们现在真心希望他们,离开NYC,不要再出牛力了。

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LIZAR
工作稳定性和医生没法比
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hjd7000
普通内科医生(四年医学院,三年住院医,不做专科的hospitalist)年薪大概25万,工作是上七天,休七天。如果想多挣,可以值