C.I.A. Hunts for Authentic Virus Totals in China, Dismissing Government Tallies
Intelligence officials have told the White House for weeks that China has vastly understated the spread of the coronavirus and the damage the pandemic has done.
WASHINGTON — The C.I.A. has been warning the White House since at least early February that China has vastly understated its coronavirus infections and that its count could not be relied upon as the United States compiles predictive models to fight the virus, according to current and former intelligence officials.
The intelligence briefings in recent weeks, based at least in part on information from C.I.A. assets in China, played an important role in President Trump’s negotiation on Thursday of an apparent détente with President Xi Jinping of China. Since then, both countries have ratcheted back criticism of each other.
Obtaining a more accurate count of the Chinese rate of infection and deaths from the virus has worldwide public health implications at a time of grave uncertainty over the virus, its speed of transmission and other fundamental questions. For American officials, the totals are critical to getting a better understanding of how Covid-19 will affect the United States in the months to come and of the effectiveness of countermeasures like social distancing, according to American intelligence agencies and White House officials.
So far, to the frustration of both the White House and the intelligence community, the agencies have been unable to glean more accurate numbers through their collection efforts.
Intelligence officials have told the White House for weeks that China has vastly understated the spread of the coronavirus and the damage the pandemic has done.
WASHINGTON — The C.I.A. has been warning the White House since at least early February that China has vastly understated its coronavirus infections and that its count could not be relied upon as the United States compiles predictive models to fight the virus, according to current and former intelligence officials.
The intelligence briefings in recent weeks, based at least in part on information from C.I.A. assets in China, played an important role in President Trump’s negotiation on Thursday of an apparent détente with President Xi Jinping of China. Since then, both countries have ratcheted back criticism of each other.
Obtaining a more accurate count of the Chinese rate of infection and deaths from the virus has worldwide public health implications at a time of grave uncertainty over the virus, its speed of transmission and other fundamental questions. For American officials, the totals are critical to getting a better understanding of how Covid-19 will affect the United States in the months to come and of the effectiveness of countermeasures like social distancing, according to American intelligence agencies and White House officials.
So far, to the frustration of both the White House and the intelligence community, the agencies have been unable to glean more accurate numbers through their collection efforts.
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我今早循例给我姐打电话， 和她说到国内新冠数据的事， 她说她觉得中国的死亡数据是相对真实的， 但在湖北可能会有没有确诊就去世的人没有计入死亡总数。 这点和我的看法一样。 我姐又说， 为什么美国现在去关心着些事呢， 应该把本国的疫情控制好再说啊。 对她的问题我也无言以对， 因为我只是普通人， 也不大懂政治。 我姐也只是个七十多岁的退休老人。 她最担心的是我的女儿的状况。
我想CIA是不是在说， 美国政府当初认为中国医疗这样落后， 缺乏人权的国家才死了三千多人所以觉得这疫情不值得重视？ 所以中国政府在数据上撒谎造成了Coronavius 在美国的蔓延。
真的相信中国数据了, 还是自己轻视这个病？
觉得美国没有问题，风险很低的言论，当初在文学城就很多，占了优势。记得当初谈新冠是被打压的。觉得是杞人忧天，散布负能量，有病等等。中国那么差的能处理，先进的美国就更没有问题了。
1.不是一直在质疑吗？指责信息不透明。难道自己质疑都是假的？
2.而就算这个数据是可靠的，也是封闭后的结果。美国这边不打算封闭，就不该采用相应的数据。明摆着不同方法有不同结果。当初纽约才40几个人的时候，立刻封城，或许就能验证中国的数据了。
CIA还不如把精力放在帮助控制疫情减少扩散中去，利用大数据强项分析扩散源、阳性患者是否真正在家隔离、医疗救护与设备及PPE分配的合理性、监控可能发生的仇恨及恐怖事件,利用全球资源获取PPE..需要整个国家机构要做的事情太多了，盯着别国一点都没用，既减缓不了我们的感染数也无助于救助危急病人。
但实际上，难道不是有人听了吗？那个senator, chairman of intelligent committee 不是被调查insider trading吗？
只不过，大众在Trump的领导下，Fox的广播推动下，一直以为是大号flu.
美国时刻要找替罪羊，来掩盖联邦政府的完全失职，真是让人厌恶
为啥要说后一句？
估计心里深处还是认为这就是大号FLU
去世，硬行开胸不让死，这是世人皆知的事，你舔屁不够，还来舔血？吃人血馒头吗？武毒的真实数据一开始就是误导世界，怎么了？这论点根本没错！