"Defending My Enemy"

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renqiulan
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In 1976 a neo-Nazi group from Chicago sought a license to march through a Jewish suburb (Skokie)  but was roadblocked by a state court injunction.

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) surprised the whole world by showing up in court and defending the First Amendment rights of American Nazis. The blowback against the ACLU from the public was immediate and ferocious.

In Chicago the ACLU executive director, who happened to be Jewish,* didn't yield to public pressure despite a huge membership loss, not to mention countless accusing fingers from Jews and non-Jews.

The ACLU's perseverance paid off. Freedom of speech had a happy ending---or beginning.

The United States Supreme Court's 1977 decision was a win for the ACLU on free speech and assembly (National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie, 432 U.S. 43).

Ironically the Nazi group chickened out and canceled its Skokie march at the last minute, knowing that it would face tens of thousands of counter-protesters. Free speech had turned out to be a peaceful, effective way of denazification.

In our democracy, if the First Amendment doesn't apply to all Americans, then we may not be able to prevent the government from denying free speech rights to some Americans, which will invite the specter of dictatorship. In other words, "free speech for some means free speech for none," as the ACLU puts it succinctly.

With free speech as an ideal and practice, the American government has to be a people's government. Meanwhile, the American people must not be a government's people.


Author: renqiulan


* Aryeh Neier, "Defending My Enemy"(1979)

 

盈盈一笑间
The American government has to be a people's government.
盈盈一笑间
the American people must not be a government's people.
盈盈一笑间
问好秋兰 Thanks for sharing the insightful thoughts.
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CBA7
"free speech for some means free speech for none"
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renqiulan
Thank you, 盈盈! We have the right to speak truth to power.
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CBA7
I cannot agree more! 秋兰好,it means "All or None", right?
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renqiulan
We therefore also have the right to make politicians' lives
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CBA7
"All" here means everyone: friends and foes.
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renqiulan
a bit difficult. Life is never easy, by the way.
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renqiulan
So, don't let politicians get fat and lazy. Haha!
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CBA7
"Defending My Enemy" 好像和圣经里面所说的“Love your enemies" 有异曲同工之妙吧。
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renqiulan
That's a good quote from the ACLU.
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renqiulan
Generally speaking, it's true. But the word "all" may need
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renqiulan
some nuance. Free speech must not be taken for granted by
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renqiulan
someone with criminal motives. For example, whoever involved
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renqiulan
in child pornography has no ground to claim
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renqiulan
free speech rights.Freedom of speech isn't necessarily free.
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CBA7
That's right. Thanks for clarification!
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renqiulan
My understanding is that if, by defending my enemy, I am
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renqiulan
also defending everyone's freedom of speech, then it's the
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renqiulan
right thing to do. 圣经上所说的“爱你的敌人”,用意也许一样。记得托尔斯泰就说过:勿以暴力抗恶。托氏
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renqiulan
之言更近圣经本意,虽然也是难以付诸实行。
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renqiulan
感谢小西!
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CBA7
谢谢秋兰,晚安!
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renqiulan
小西晚安!
蓝灵
If you believe in freedom of speech, you believe in freedom
蓝灵
of speech for views you don't like..
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renqiulan
Precisely. Hi, 蓝灵!
蓝灵
Hi, renqiulan! If you're in favor of free speech (your turn)
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renqiulan
that means you're in favor of freedom for speakers
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renqiulan
you despise.
蓝灵
Some people's idea of free speech is that they're free to
蓝灵
speak, but never let anyone say anything back. (your turn)
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renqiulan
So they always enjoy their monologues & never enjoy feedback
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renqiulan
They must be monologists speaking to no one.
蓝灵
Free speech is not just about speaking (your turn)
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renqiulan
It is also about listening.
蓝灵
Who said that?
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renqiulan
Tim Cook, I guess.
蓝灵
Our freedom of speech is freedom or death (your turn)
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renqiulan
We got to fight the powers that be. Sounds like rap.
蓝灵
You bet. You must be a rap fan.
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renqiulan
Guilty as charged. Haha! Is it Public Enemy by Chuck D?
蓝灵
Correct. Ready for the next one?
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renqiulan
Yes, Ma'am!
蓝灵
If you want to overthrow the liberty of a nation,
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renqiulan
you must begin by denying freedom of speech to everyone
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renqiulan
except your good self.
蓝灵
No doubt about it. Good night!
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renqiulan
Goodnight!
永远老李
我对FREE SPEECH的兴趣从到美国几年后逐渐消失

我发现吧,这玩意,也就是在议论政治议论选举的时候是这样,大家各抒己见,随便说随便侃,都没关系。

但是除了议论这个POLITICS闲聊或者网上闲聊的话题外,美国在其他地方的FREE SPEECH就比较有限了。比如你跟你老板,肯定不会FREE SPEECH,你遇上警察查交通违章,你多半也不会FREE SPEECH,你就是跟你家领导交流,你也不敢瞎扯胡乱FREE SPEECH而破坏安定团结。

这玩意,也就是第三世界国家独裁国家出来的人民新鲜一阵子,时间长了,这FREE SPEECH也换不了学位也换不来工作机会也换不来银子,所有美国人都有,就不那么崇高不那么珍贵了。

唐宋韵
老李啊,书生需要理想和理论,尽管与现实不完全吻合。。。毕竟,这片土地上能说、敢说的地方还是要宽许多。
永远老李
是是。我这人觉悟比较低,只是柴米油盐的小农,格局太小
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renqiulan
谢谢永远老李!各适其适,民主特色。自由不等于置身法外,而法治跟人治却是两码子的事。目前,还是从人冶国度跑往法治国度者居多
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renqiulan
怎样生活,怎样态度,在法治范围內悉听尊便。法,可以改;治,更可以改,并无一尊之说,与墙国迥异。
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renqiulan
谢谢唐宋君来评。
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renqiulan
I have just changed the title of my post which is
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renqiulan
meant to be a book review (sort of).
盈盈一笑间
一腔热血勤珍重,洒去犹能化碧涛。用秋瑾的诗赠送秋兰。:))
盈盈一笑间
谢谢秋兰!每周日晚上的读书沙龙如约而来。抱歉昨晚太困了。回个帖,就下线了。:))
盈盈一笑间
北朝鲜脱北者就是生动的例子。
盈盈一笑间
一尊,墙国,法治,人治。。秋兰是中国通!
永远老李
我离开人治的地方很长时间了,我呆在法制的地方很长时间了,我目前只关心这法制的地方的事

我发现这FREE SPEECH有局限性

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renqiulan
实在太感谢盈盈了。谈不上沙龙,只不过在帖子上说几句书话而已。晚安!
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renqiulan
前几天偶然翻看一下费孝通的《乡土中国》,觉得中国人的乡根特别深。当然,既来之则安之。晚安!
梅雨潭
谢谢秋兰!欢迎参加美坛综艺秀假日活动!:))
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renqiulan
感谢梅雨潭!当然乐意参加活动。