America: A Nation of Dissidents

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renqiulan
楼主 (文学城)

I have concluded my re-reading of the U.S. Constitution with the following thoughts:

The founders of American Democracy shared the same zeal for defeating every single aspiring dictator with a deliberate system of check-and-balance.

To prevent the disease of dictatorship from rearing its head, we'd better be  healthy and strong skeptics, collectively and individually. We're born or reborn to dissent.

We are NOT united behind our political leaders. Instead, we are united behind our time-honored belief that politicians tend to corrupt if given too much power. No wonder our Constitution makes life so difficult for politicians by making life so easy for dissidents.

Our dissident-friendly system works. No? Then tell me why all those dictators, who allow no dissent, try so hard to stop their people from coming here.


Author: renqiulan

 

 

 

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r
renqiulan
105 楼
谢谢卫宁!所言甚是。
r
renqiulan
104 楼
小心政客利用族群分化而图利。种族磨合从来需要漫长的岁月。另外,搞种族歧视的人数极少,恐惧是他们的槓杆。
卫宁
103 楼
民主不是万能的,但没有民主是万万不能的!:))
盈盈一笑间
102 楼
入乡随俗。用脚投票,也要积极投票。只有投票,才能让政客注意和重视到我们!亚裔非哑裔!
r
renqiulan
101 楼
什么可以解决所有问题的?击壤歌里的人很知足,压轴句“帝力于我何有哉!”最有意思。

 

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O
Oona
自由意志是创造力的源泉 :--))
盈盈一笑间
“We're born or reborn to dissent.”
盈盈一笑间
Freedom of speech. For example :
盈盈一笑间
We don't agree with what someone said, but we defend
盈盈一笑间
their freedom to speak.
方外居士
Theoretically right, practically nobody do it voluntarily!
盈盈一笑间
我不同意你说的,但我捍卫你自由表达的权利。这在美国还是很常见的吧。
方外居士
哈哈哈!
蓝灵
Our Constitution deserves an interpreter like you.
蓝灵
Thought-provoking.
永远老李
The good news is there is no dictator in America

The bad news is there are two dictators in America: GOP and DEM. Those two take turns to dictate this country. This country is ruled under two parties for more than two hundred years. I don't think people in this country like anyone of those two. Every four years, I heard "we need to change". One goes away and the other one step on the stage. However four years later, the exact process happens again. People want to change again. The expelled one come back. The ruling party gets booted, until four years later. 

Come on America. Can't you make up your fking mind? What the hell exactly do you want?

r
renqiulan
Thanks, 方外居士! With all due respect, that's not true---
r
renqiulan
In 1977 The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) defended
r
renqiulan
the free speech rights of an American Nazi group
r
renqiulan
broadcasting antisemitic messages in the Jewish suburb of
r
renqiulan
Skokie, Illinois. The ACLU is well-known for its
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renqiulan
liberal advocacy against racism. This case has been adapted
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renqiulan
into a movie titled "Skokie" (1981).Yes, in America, you bet
r
renqiulan
you can find someone defending your constitutional
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renqiulan
rights regardless of your ideology.
r
renqiulan
永远老李, thanks for your comment. Just let you know that I am
r
renqiulan
averse to expletives. So please do some clean-up.
r
renqiulan
National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie,
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renqiulan
arising out of what is sometimes referred to as the
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renqiulan
Skokie Affair, was a landmark decision of the US Supreme
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renqiulan
Court dealing with freedom of speech and freedom of assembly
r
renqiulan
At the end of the day, the Nazi group was allowed to march
r
renqiulan
through the Jewish suburb without the swastika.
r
renqiulan
The Nazi group chose to cancel the march, saying
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renqiulan
that it had already benefited from media reporting.
方外居士
Interesting! Thanks for sharing!
r
renqiulan
感谢Oona!自由意志加上相对的自由国度,许必拓新造奇。
颤音
谢谢秋兰!we desperately need the founders now
r
renqiulan
Immigrants made America, in my opinion.
r
renqiulan
Even devils benefit from free speech in America.
r
renqiulan
That's what civil rights professionals are doing everyday.
r
renqiulan
I bet you would do a lot better than I did.
r
renqiulan
Thanks, 蓝灵!
r
renqiulan
发言权就是人权的体现,否则人权就是空话而已。
r
renqiulan
Thanks, 颤音! Today's America might overwhelm the founders.
永远老李
American politics has turned violence in Jan 6th 2021.

That is way beyond coarse language. People were dead for presidential election. Hundreds of people did jail time becuase of what they did in Jan 6th. This is way more than dissidents. I don't like the result so that I will not accept the result of democratic process and I will get rough?

If the temperature of America politics doesn't cool down a little bit, both side of the country will become more extreme. "Dissident" will be such an understatement. 

 

 

r
renqiulan
How about having George Washington moderate a presidential
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renqiulan
debate?
颤音
i feel he would be considered a right wing extremist
颤音
how elon musk is treated by our government and media after
颤音
he took over twitter is very concerning
r
renqiulan
George might want to debate Elon. Hahaha!
颤音
that's a dream match!!!
r
renqiulan
For this offer, George might get a Tesla for free.
r
renqiulan
God forbid, George might want to command Space X.
颤音
hhh, or bring Tesla back to life to command space X
r
renqiulan
Today's Tesla, tomorrow's spacecraft.
r
renqiulan
Keep me dreaming, please.
颤音
Elon Musk knows how to realize a dream
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CBA7
秋兰,great post with great thoughts, thank you for sharing.
r
renqiulan
Language matters, as far as I am concerned.
r
renqiulan
Good for him.
C
CBA7
"We're born or reborn to dissent", I agree this totally :)
r
renqiulan
The January 6 mayhem? Let the chips fall where they may.
r
renqiulan
Thanks, 小西!
r
renqiulan
Dissent is in our national DNA.
C
CBA7
I just realized the speaker (a child) in my poem
r
renqiulan
Enlighten me.
永远老李
In less than a year, let's see what those dissidents do

to this country. 

C
CBA7
Maybe in some degree it's international too.
C
CBA7
Thanik you. Good night, have a great weekend!
r
renqiulan
I have just read your latest poem. Here're my thoughts:
r
renqiulan
Hubris sank their Titanic. Innocence keeps yours afloat.
r
renqiulan
Goodnight! Let everyone have a great weekend.
C
CBA7
So true!
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freemanli01
Everybody is unique, yet nobody is special... I think the
f
freemanli01
the founders was not intended to make life difficult for the
f
freemanli01
politicians, they just don't want to make politician special
f
freemanli01
politician, same as other service providers, must deliver
f
freemanli01
services as demanded by the people, and cannot force people
f
freemanli01
to accept their dictation...
r
renqiulan
Thanks, freemanli01! You have a point. Electioneering is
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renqiulan
never smooth sailing, except for a few safe-seat occupants.
r
renqiulan
When a politician can't take power for granted, s/he won't
r
renqiulan
say that life is easy. Even George Washington had to deal
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renqiulan
with the "Whiskey Rebellion," not to mention Abe Lincoln.
永远老李
Here’s the huge problem

The huge problem is: there are huge amounts of people still believing Jan 6th was a peaceful protest and a very few of them being a bit excessive. This is not holding a small group of people accountable for losing their temper during a tour in Capitol Hill. They are still people believing the election was stolen without a thread of evidence. There was a presidential candidate debate which is totally meaningless because huge amounts of people support the other candidate who was not in the debate hall at all. To me, this is nowhere close to be a dissident. This is a fanatical political environment. It is that close to be a cult. 
This is NOT that America I know. 

永远老李
美国所谓人权的优势在于它对没有人权的国家相比有优势,但是人权这玩意并不解决所有问题

你跟非洲比跟中国比,OKAY,美国的人权确实有优势,但是,美国国内都有人权,但美国国内也有很多实际问题要解决,这些实际问题靠标榜人权是解决不了的,美国单个的总统有人权,华盛顿好几百政客有人权,美国好几亿人其实都有人权,但美国同样存在许多问题,有些问题还相当难以解决。Human right itself is not a silver bullet. 

r
renqiulan
Misinformation and disinformation are part of
r
renqiulan
the American deal. Let's take a deep breath and
r
renqiulan
see how this episode will play out. The truth is out there.
忒忒绿
US politics goes to a big mess
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ahniu
ding

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通州河
200、300的历史相对人类文明,啥都不算,没有时间的考验。美国的最大优势是地理,第二是没有历史包袱,第三是吸取了当时最

最好和最有效的人才。

 

从人类几千年的历史来看,君主制是非常有效的意识形态。

再过至少1000年才能对目前的各国制度做评论

r
renqiulan
Thanks, 忒忒绿!We have been worse.
r
renqiulan
谢谢通州河来评!人生苦短。不过,正如王羲之所言:“后之视今,亦犹今之视昔。” 今天,走憲政,走民主的继续走。反其道而行的
r
renqiulan
继续反其道而行。但从移民趋势来看,随着走民主的人数有增无已。
通州河
这个趋势不能作为结论。西方最早工业化,文明程度高,生活水平高,移民去西方是一个提升自己生活水平

的快捷方式。

但从人类文明的来看,西方近代这一套真不一定是最终的赢家

r
renqiulan
谁在做结论昵?选择到较民主较自由的地方来提高生活水平,本身就明示不民主不自由国度之不济。再说,移民后代会集体“返祖”么?
春日遲遲
想補充一點,人類文明有高低之分,不過不能用輸贏來衡量文明的高低。人類歷史中,往往出現高級文明被較低級文明摧毀的現象。
春日遲遲
南宋之於蒙古,明朝之於滿清,都是高級文明滅於低級文明之手的例子。