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Aywl888
楼主 (文学城)

common law partner A and B 有一娃14岁,在同一 屋檐下住了16年,男方收入大约是female 两倍;现在女方因工作原因必须去外地工作,男方不同意,两人关系破裂,两人都是政府部门,男方有很可观的退休金,女方自己的退休金很少,分居后男方的退休金是不是必须补贴给女方?

柠檬椰子汁
common law partner什么也拿不到。

法律承认的,是common law marriage。(假设你们州承认common law marriage。很多州并不承认)。https://www.findlaw.com/family/marriage/common-law-marriage-states.html

现在你们什么婚姻证书也没有,法律上的假设是没有婚姻。女方要想拿钱,必须先去打官司证明两个人有婚姻,然后再打官司说两个人要离婚,才可以。

如果法庭认定有这个婚姻,男方的退休金才有可能给你一些。

柠檬椰子汁
另外,如果你要证明有婚姻,就不能说什么“必须去工作”

有婚姻的就有财务共享,就没有必须去工作的说法。女方说必须去外州工作,不去就要分开,这样似乎不支持她说她有common law marriage。

总之,自己保重。

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Aywl888
谢答复,两人有娃,住在加拿大;
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Aywl888
问题是男方收入是女方的两倍以上,有共同投资,平时财务各管各;
柠檬椰子汁
加拿大承认common law partnership,不是好事情。

加拿大虽然承认common law partnership,但是也认为common law partnership比婚姻要弱很多。一般没有财产分割,只有一些公平法则,比如如果他收入是你的两倍,他可以说共有财产他的贡献多所以应该多分一些。退休金似乎分不到。

https://www.separation.ca/help-center/division-of-property/common-law-relationships-division-of-property/

请自己咨询当地律师

对比允许common law marriage的美国州,如果被认为有marriage,那么可以正大光明地分。

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julie116
哪省?怎么分主要看双方协议。不过到了要分的时候双方也不会太容易满足对方需求
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CK雪梅
他们在一起时是怎样报税的?

Single or couple ? 加拿大是????认事实婚姻的

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julie116
如果破裂原因主要是分居还是尽量一家人在一起。等孩子大学后再看看。
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Aywl888
报税分开报,用同一地址;
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julie116
报税的marriage status 是common-law 吗?
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Aywl888
我们都不年轻了,必须抓紧时间,如果不是为了孩子,早就分居了,男方很自私的;
最西边的岛上
这个在加拿大各省不同。比如魁北克省没有同居伴侣分后资助的要求。其他各省也不尽相同。下面是加拿大政府有关网站:

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/fl-df/spousal-epoux/ss-pae.html

其中说:

“Under provincial law, common-law partners in Quebec are not entitled to spousal support when they separate. (In Quebec, common-law partners are usually referred to as "de facto spouses.") In other provinces and territories, a common-law partner may be eligible for spousal support from the other partner. This may depend on how long the couple lived together before they separated. For example, in some provinces and territories a common-law couple must live together for two or three years before either partner is eligible for spousal support.

Provincial and territorial rules vary across Canada. You are encouraged to check the website of your provincial or territorial Ministry of Justice or Attorney General for this information or you may contact a lawyer.”

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julie116
先看看能不能counseling 调节一下关系?如果他很自私估计也不会太痛快分割共同财产
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julie116
各省状况

What is common law in Ontario?

As defined in Ontario’s Family Law Act, a couple is considered to be in a common law relationship in Ontario after living together for at least three continuous years. If they have a child together by birth or adoption, they only need to have been living together for one year.

What is common law in British Columbia?

As defined in British Columbia’s Family Law Act, a couple is considered to be in a common law relationship in BC after living together in a marriage-like manner for at least two continuous years, or if they’ve lived together for less than two years but have a child together. 

What is common law in Alberta?

As defined in the Adult Interdependent Relationships Act, a common law relationship in Alberta is called an Adult Interdependent Relationship. A couple is considered to be in an Adult Interdependent Relationship if you have made a formal and valid Adult Interdependent Partner agreement together, have lived together in a relationship of interdependence for at least three continuous years, or have lived together in a relationship of interdependence of some permanence where there is a child of the relationship (either by birth or adoption).

What is common law in Manitoba?

As defined in Manitoba’s Family Property Act, a couple is considered to be in a common law relationship if they have registered their relationship at the Vital Statistics Agency or if not registered, have lived together for at least three years, or one year if the couple has a child together.

What is common law in New Brunswick?

As defined in New Brunswick’s Family Services Act, a couple is considered to be in a common law relationship after living together continuously for at least three years or have a child together and are in a relationship of some permanence.

What is common law in Nova Scotia?

As defined in Nova Scotia’s Maintenance and Custody Act, a couple is considered to be in a common law relationship if they live together in a marriage-like relationship and publicly refer to themselves as partners or spouses. However, how long the couple must live together can vary depending on the issue being addressed. 

What is common law in Saskatchewan?

As defined in Saskatchewan’s Family Property Act, a couple is considered to be in a common law relationship after living together continuously for at least two years.

What is common law in Quebec?

In Quebec, common law relationships are often referred to as a defacto union. You are considered common law in Quebec for tax purposes after living together continuously for at least two years. It’s very important to note that in Quebec, unless you’re legally married, your spouse will be entitled to nothing if you pass away. Learn more about marital status and wills in Quebec here.

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julie116
尤其是退休金,其产生没有你的直接contribution 估计很难得到法庭支持
最西边的岛上
你的帖子里是各省对同居伴侣的定义,但除了魁省外,没有讲各省这种伴侣分开时的法律条文。楼主

可以谷歌一下(common law separation in "your province") 自己省里的法则。比如

BC省:

https://www.willful.co/learn/common-law-bc

安省:

https://www.separation.ca/help-center/separation/common-law-separation/

等等。

觉得是很复杂的,最好找一个靠谱的当地律师咨询,争取到自己应有的待遇。

 

 

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CK雪梅
你们有joined bank account 吧?这种情况可能可以争取到他的一些退休金。

但是如果他不愿意,就需要走法律程序,这是一个花钱,有点慢的过程。其实我更想说的是,你的小孩应该很快就要上大学了吧,在美国上大学的学费与你和小孩父亲的收入有关,总的来说会比加拿大贵不少。如果你是为了去美国多挣点,也许这多余的部分都会变成小孩子的学费了。

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julie116
离婚案基本都要靠双方自觉。还有就是是否大部分财产都联名。否则没啥约束力,

也没有强制执行机制。

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julie116
还有就是年龄不小了,以后的医保退休金啥的问题。不如在本地多兼个职挣点外快
單身老貓
為啥同居 16 年不結婚?