plaintiffs must prove the following four elements:
First, the plaintiff must prove that the defendant made a false and defamatory statement concerning the plaintiff. Second, the plaintiff must prove that the defendant made an unprivileged publication to a third party. Third, the plaintiff must prove that the publisher acted at least negligently in publishing the communication. Fourth, in some cases, the plaintiff must prove special damages.
是的，我没有任何证据证明老师迟到，老师不是full time teacher没有写在合同里，因为根本没有合同，我说M根本不在乎牛奶开了多久，只要保质期没到就给学生喝，我说她的30个学生SAT成绩没有提高，可是凭什么要我给证明这些都是真的啊？如果她要告我诽谤，当然是她要证明我说的是假的。她能证明什么？这些都是事实，她能证明是假的吗？
一开始给他的差评里把很多详情都写上了，虽然都有text message作为证据他要真正告起来也不容易，但是俺最后还是把详情略掉了，改成了 installation failsed, being threaterned with leagal action to stop me complaining.
见到对方律师信，吓得慌慌张张跑来发问，发了四个主贴，满口不知所云，臆想连篇的Review，甚至有了You think who you are这样的让人啼笑皆非的中式对骂文体，实话实说，你都不如直接写上”取泥玛德思密达“更给力。很多没有法律背景的朋友都觉得你这所谓的怼，恐怕只适合六线城市的菜市场骂战。你前后反复修改，一遍遍咨询。对两个职业律师级别的版主怒下战书，所谓不免费帮助你，就不是你心中那杆秤上的秤砣。
Most reviews are protected under the First Amendment (free speech). However, a court can find a reviewer guilty of defaming a business if they post factually incorrect accusations. Freedom of speech typically boils down to whether someone is expressing their opinion or asserting a fact.
For example, if a customer says that you are a jerk or you “charge an arm and a leg,” you cannot sue for it (or, you will not win if you do sue).
But, if a customer claims that you are unlicensed or that you stole her watch while painting her house, you could have a case. A false statement of fact that hurts your business is not protected by the right to free speech.
And for all you avid reviewers out there, take note of this distinction. It’s important to choose your words carefully before bashing a business on a review site. Stick to opinions and truths.
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所以不是说什么都不需要证明，你说的是事实，但这种表达不能算“事实”。 比如这个：
Feb 19 2019 （日子错了）: The owner Michelle has no respect for people, she is nice to students and parents face to face, but behind their back she thinks they are crazy coming to this place, yes, she believes most of the students are just wasting time, she believes they wont improve, she just want your money! I have seen the the SAT mock test results for about 30 students there, after a few months' intense class and 3-4 mock tests, they have not improved at all, no one!
事实是，你其实不能代替另一个人的想法。
还有这个：Also they have a filthy refrigerator on the second floor, Michelle herself never put anything there, but she stores students snacks there and as long as the expiration date is not passed she would give the students milks no matter when it is opened.
事实是，你never看见而已。
这个是文章建议：
The point of this article isn’t to scare you off writing honest, negative reviews online. There are thousands of negative reviews posted every day and only a very small number of them end up with lawyers involved. The big takeaways are:
Only post things that are absolutely true. Make sure you’re expressing an opinion by saying things like, “I didn’t like X” rather than making statements that could be interpreted as facts like “X sucks”. Avoid accusing the companies you’re reviewing of criminal behaviour like robbing you, scamming you, and so on. Don’t write reviews while you’re angry. Wait a few days and see how you feel. If you still feel the need to write a negative review, do it carefully and deliberately. If you are sued or threatened with a lawsuit, contact a lawyer immediately. A few hundred dollars worth of legal advice now could save you hundreds of thousands of dollars in the future.
Michelle gives the same amount of milk to Benny everyday. Now let’s do the math, 1.89L lasts about 9 days, plus 2 days (they do not have after school class on weekends) is 11 days. Why there were two boxes of milk? Does Michelle care? You have your conclusion.
难道一个review 还真的啥也不能写了？我真是不信，就网上查了defaming lawsuit怎么样才能告，然后查到这个：
plaintiffs must prove the following four elements:
First, the plaintiff must prove that the defendant made a false and defamatory statement concerning the plaintiff. Second, the plaintiff must prove that the defendant made an unprivileged publication to a third party. Third, the plaintiff must prove that the publisher acted at least negligently in publishing the communication. Fourth, in some cases, the plaintiff must prove special damages.是的，我没有任何证据证明老师迟到，老师不是full time teacher没有写在合同里，因为根本没有合同，我说M根本不在乎牛奶开了多久，只要保质期没到就给学生喝，我说她的30个学生SAT成绩没有提高，可是凭什么要我给证明这些都是真的啊？如果她要告我诽谤，当然是她要证明我说的是假的。她能证明什么？这些都是事实，她能证明是假的吗？
我觉得柠檬和老猫对我的review太苛刻了，这是google review，这不是一个法律指控文件，证明我说的都是实话不是我的责任，我责任是保证我说的是实话。
而且这个实话和我要评论的事情有没有关系无所谓吧，比如我在评论里说卡拉是条狗，难道韩国人人能因为这句话和她没关系而sue我？
bottom line，review只要你说的都是事实就行，证明这是事实不是你的责任。
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你大概忘记这个故事了。一艘船因为超重要沉了，必须把船上的人扔下一个去才行。船上的人来自各行各业，但是大家毫不犹豫地就把其中的律师扔了下去。
Can J2 transfer to H1 without waver? Thanks.
柠檬和老猫完全是义务免费作答，我没什么可说的，但是建议网友如果有什么事不放心首先自己网上搜一下，其次雇一个收费的律师，咱只要没犯法，收个律师信怕啥？
再说一句，review里全是你的主观意见才好呢，比如，你说她坏，说她不负责任，说她只要钱，说她不关心学生，这些完全没法告的。我还傻乎乎给她罗列时间，要是哪里写错了可被别人抓住把柄了。
你有本事回去把差评恢复到你的第一个版本，等着人家来告你。
不知道你期望什么？付钱，参加复习班，就以为会提高成绩，天真了
教你一招，保灵
拿一套题目给娃做，改错
过一段时间，把娃上次做错的再拿出来做，基本还会再错，也许会错少一点，再改
过一段时间，把上次错的拿出来再做，。。。
如此反复，。。。
1）网上其实这类review平台很多，有些可匿名发表。而你写在了google review，这与你email地址相连，就是说对方很容易跟踪到你。
2）网上这类review很多，有正面/负面也很正常，若一个企业公司被100%说好的更不现实真实。一般情况对方不至于反应过激，这次也算你正好撞/踩到“只老虎尾巴”，对方恰恰姐姐是律师，可能也有点钱和势力，再说你写的review，其中部分对方码定你无法拿出证据证明属实，被对方便抓住把柄不依不饶。
3）最后一点，所谓“司法独立”是理想，现实是“有钱能使鬼推磨”的情况多了。你想想你现在面对的对手，倘若对方真不依不饶叫上劲，若真的打起官司，先不说输赢，你问问自己准备赔多少时间和钱请律师？ 若不行，现在以淡化为上，
大家不都觉得review要是没证据就一句话也说不了了？
你不爱听只能说明你自己的为人。
不依不饶
也说不要理他，她没法告你，可看了你的review之后，跟我想象的差评很不一样，可以理解为什么她如此恼羞成怒了。如果你家里也有律师，大可不必理她，等她来告。现在问题是人家自己有姐姐律师，你得花钱请，所以就尽量减少麻烦吧，依旧差评，但是是不给她把柄告你的差评。
在法庭上能不能赢你是另外一档事。
如果你写“ i believe going to this class is a total waste of my time and my money”, 她不能告你，因为你有权believe....
但是你写的是“Michell believes it is a waste of money”, 这就给人把柄了，虽然她也不一定赢，但是你也不想麻烦不是。
因为接案子的是法庭工作人员，不是法官。不过想赢这个案子不是一件简单的事情。可以说基本没戏。
除非你有能力联合对这补习班不满的家长们，大家用成绩证明这个补习班不好，估计这点不大容易，
在美国各国族裔比较，韩国人是很抱团的，不好惹。
再说一次我的故事
http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/law/246801.html
一开始给他的差评里把很多详情都写上了，虽然都有text message作为证据他要真正告起来也不容易，但是俺最后还是把详情略掉了，改成了 installation failsed, being threaterned with leagal action to stop me complaining.
这两点全都有record，这就已经够他喝一壶的了。
最后他在俺的review下回了一句：false review. 俺回了一句：city 验收清楚写明安装失败。
至此此人住嘴,而且俺自个儿把空调弄好了，钱没多花只是花了时间学会了线该咋接，他却得了个差的不能再差的差评永远留在网上，他的和解是要我吧差评撤了他就给俺换一新的thermostat.他现在是啥也得不到，只是省了个80块的thermostat,换来的却是一个永远的差评。活该！
你可以在state license regulation deportment and customer services department, also better business bureau file complaint.
謝謝您的回應,如果您認為老貓"嚇著您了",老貓真正非常抱歉,畢竟老貓學藝不精,不如您有學問,所以如果不嫌麻煩,,,一個不情之請,
可否請您日後在討論任何事時不要將老貓抓進來,因為你的事老貓不想再過問..同時請您日後的言論中不要再提及老貓,因為老貓沒有興趣與您繼續討論任何問題,.同時也不願意再被您在任何地方提及...(不是老貓自高,是老貓高攀不起) 謝謝您的合作..
(講白了,老貓尊重您的言論自由,但是也請您尊重老貓的意願,互相尊重是創造和諧社會的開始,謝謝 !)
所以誰聰明,誰傻瓜,你心知肚明...
火氣大是因為一些"人"氣的,泥人都有三分火,何況是已經 32 天沒薪水了,家中都快斷糧了,還有人建議老貓喝杯"酸梅湯"消火,老貓是招誰惹誰了....
你和我讲什么酸话？
老貓不是與您談情說愛,所以您喜不喜歡老貓的酸言辣語,真正不是老貓需要在意的...
老貓是人不犯我,我不犯人,人要犯我,必當十倍回報...
但是那不代表我要全盘接受有些人的冷言冷语
这么点小事，煮汤 能跟 柠檬和猫都 杠上，字字句句， 小事上计较，我有点怀疑 汤 和那个韩国人 那个更 “刁”了。
就是柠檬不支持你，他的观点，听听就好，参考而已。非要证明 他不对，，谁对谁错呢？你的事你自己爱干嘛干嘛。
成为个人攻击。看来学会讨论中怎样focus 在问题的的分析是个大学问。suppose 这里参加讨论的都是受到过高等教育的人。我很想搞明白到底犯了什么法，法又是怎么说的。?结果还是没懂。
见到对方律师信，吓得慌慌张张跑来发问，发了四个主贴，满口不知所云，臆想连篇的Review，甚至有了You think who you are这样的让人啼笑皆非的中式对骂文体，实话实说，你都不如直接写上”取泥玛德思密达“更给力。很多没有法律背景的朋友都觉得你这所谓的怼，恐怕只适合六线城市的菜市场骂战。你前后反复修改，一遍遍咨询。对两个职业律师级别的版主怒下战书，所谓不免费帮助你，就不是你心中那杆秤上的秤砣。
所有这一切行为，居然敢称作”告诉大家写Review不要畏首畏脚“，如果你不畏首畏脚，那你这些帖子出现是为了什么？你怎么样理解”畏首畏脚“这个词语？难不成语文是外交部发言人教的不成？
我查“Can You Get Sued for Leaving a Bad Review?”
这两篇都写了几个不错的例子
https://www.howtogeek.com/352302/can-you-get-sued-for-leaving-a-bad-review/
https://www.freshbooks.com/blog/can-you-sue-over-a-bad-review
Most reviews are protected under the First Amendment (free speech). However, a court can find a reviewer guilty of defaming a business if they post factually incorrect accusations. Freedom of speech typically boils down to whether someone is expressing their opinion or asserting a fact.
For example, if a customer says that you are a jerk or you “charge an arm and a leg,” you cannot sue for it (or, you will not win if you do sue).
But, if a customer claims that you are unlicensed or that you stole her watch while painting her house, you could have a case. A false statement of fact that hurts your business is not protected by the right to free speech.
And for all you avid reviewers out there, take note of this distinction. It’s important to choose your words carefully before bashing a business on a review site. Stick to opinions and truths.
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所以不是说什么都不需要证明，你说的是事实，但这种表达不能算“事实”。 比如这个：
Feb 19 2019 （日子错了）: The owner Michelle has no respect for people, she is nice to students and parents face to face, but behind their back she thinks they are crazy coming to this place, yes, she believes most of the students are just wasting time, she believes they wont improve, she just want your money! I have seen the the SAT mock test results for about 30 students there, after a few months' intense class and 3-4 mock tests, they have not improved at all, no one!
事实是，你其实不能代替另一个人的想法。
还有这个：Also they have a filthy refrigerator on the second floor, Michelle herself never put anything there, but she stores students snacks there and as long as the expiration date is not passed she would give the students milks no matter when it is opened.
事实是，你never看见而已。
这个是文章建议：
The point of this article isn’t to scare you off writing honest, negative reviews online. There are thousands of negative reviews posted every day and only a very small number of them end up with lawyers involved. The big takeaways are:
Only post things that are absolutely true. Make sure you’re expressing an opinion by saying things like, “I didn’t like X” rather than making statements that could be interpreted as facts like “X sucks”. Avoid accusing the companies you’re reviewing of criminal behaviour like robbing you, scamming you, and so on. Don’t write reviews while you’re angry. Wait a few days and see how you feel. If you still feel the need to write a negative review, do it carefully and deliberately. If you are sued or threatened with a lawsuit, contact a lawyer immediately. A few hundred dollars worth of legal advice now could save you hundreds of thousands of dollars in the future.即使没有官司，说话严谨，有理有据都是好习惯。
就是你的观点要有证据。越有具体事实的，越容易有证据。情绪话，没法有证据。
比如柠檬说输官司，你不同意，你就一是一，二是二的证明他的观点不对，说事不说人。这样，不是跟韩国人打官司的rehearsal 吗？还得谢谢柠檬陪练呢。
什么傲慢无礼（人身的？）， 搜饭，，全是扯淡，这是说人不说事。
如果打官司也都是此等用语，我不认为胜算很大。不是仅这个case, 是General speaking。
韩国人的纠纷也一样。具体：补习班收钱不做事，老师质量不合格，老师没教东西，，云云。
但韩国女人个人态度傲慢横蛮，这。。，，嗯嗯。
俺上午就说算了。全是口水。根本不是原意了。
楼主态度认真而且性格执着，我以为她能全面了解并分享一下研究成果，但她的这篇结论明显不对。律师可能喜欢吓唬人，但如果律师信一定就是“狼来了的故事“，肯定早就被人识破而且披露了。
这里起个分水岭，如果有兴趣，还是好好讨论吧。
Michelle gives the same amount of milk to Benny everyday. Now let’s do the math, 1.89L lasts about 9 days, plus 2 days (they do not have after school class on weekends) is 11 days. Why there were two boxes of milk? Does Michelle care? You have your conclusion.
不如干脆利落直接说，觉得这个补习班没有用，觉得是浪费时间浪费钱，个人不会推荐给任何人。这样的负面review简单易懂，才有效果，她韩国人干生气，还没办法告。原来那篇，实在是没法理解啊。
http://bbs.wenxuecity.com/law/247438.html
come on. 哪怕读帖不认真，至少有没有在那儿应该了解的吧？
installation failsed, being threaterned with leagal action to stop me complaining.
这都写的啥呀！
那个故事还有个尾巴。那个律师虽然被扔下去了，但是他还带上船了一只猫和一头驴，大家出于怜悯，把它们留下了，后来.......。