The 2001 Honda CR-V EX (VIN: JHLRD18681C028948) you sold to me this past Saturday, December 16, 2017, is not safe to drive and will not pass either a basic safety or the required NY State inspection. I just got back from taking the vehicle to my mechanic. The emergency brake lines have been cut! The other brake lines are bad and they need to be replaced completely. The fuel line is also leaking and needs to be replaced. The work required just to pass the NY State inspection would cost over $2,000. I have included a copy of the estimate from my mechanic. As a courtesy, my mechanic called a couple of places for me to see if they would buy the vehicle in its current condition. One place said they weren't interested, and the other offered $225 if I deliver it to them. Unfortunately that is the actual and realistic resale value of the vehicle you sold to me for $1,700.00. The vehicle is a total loss.
The purpose of this letter is to ask you to reply to this immediately and to make the situation right by refunding me what I paid you. The course of action that I think would be easiest for both of us would be for you to immediately refund me $1,500.00 by venmo or paypal and I will sell the vehicle myself for $225. If you are concerned that I am not being honest, or think you can get more than $200 for the vehicle then I suggest that you refund me $1,700.00 and arrange for someone to tow the car to wherever you want it. I cannot recommend that either of us drive this car in its current condition. In both of these cases I will still lose the $263 I paid to the DMV to register the vehicle, not to mention the auto insurance policy on this vehicle which I can’t drive, or the gas I use driving back and forth.
It is not in my nature to be distrustful, or demanding. I would like to believe this has been a misunderstanding and you weren’t aware of the full implications of these safety issues, and I hope that you will do what you can to make this right as soon as possible.
If you do not willingly refund me within three (3) days, I will have to file a court complaint that you knowingly sold me an unsafe vehicle without telling me. In this case I will be seeking damages not only for the $1,700 I paid you for the vehicle, but also for the $263 in DMV fees, for the non refundable portion of my auto insurance policy, the cost of filing the complaint in Rensselaer County, and for other expenses I have incurred or will incur as a result of filing the complaint in court. I expect to have a very strong case in court. When I asked about the condition of the vehicle and what work you had done you only told me about the replacement of the exhaust system and the AC filter. I have the estimates, invoices and receipts that you left in the glove box of the vehicle. The invoices and receipts show that you did more work than you told me about. Additionally, there are estimates showing that you were aware of a number of issues with the car including the leaks and brake issues. There was a bottle of brake fluid left in the back of the vehicle, which would also show you were aware of the issue.
Again, I hope that this has been a misunderstanding and that we can resolve this quickly without involving the courts or the police.
Which law requires to refund after the sale? Who has the final s
If fuel line is leaking, you can smell it. What the buyer said in the email may not be truth. Why not let him go through the legal system. It is fair to both sides.
There is a case on TV, a buyer bought a used car and paid. But d
The judge said, used car no warranty. You should not worry about it. Since the car only $1700, he should know the condition. Good car not selling that price.
However, there are two easy way to result it.
1. refund partial money (never tell him that you will leave country)
2. If you know mechenic of car, it so easy. Ask someone who know how to fix it cost $0.
The buyer has checked all the conditions of the vehicle and agreed to buy it with the price shown above. Once the deal is finished, the vehicle can not be returned. No refund applicable.
买家是美籍大陆人。当时是周六，之前通电话他们要买的意愿很强，和朋友开了两辆车一个半小时过去，他们决定买，但说没现金，银行关门，只能给支票。因为都是中国人，所以就答应了。那辆车我开了一年，那是我第一辆车，那一年的普通维护都是在pep boys 做的，收据都一并给了他们，然后嘱咐他们这是老爷车了，禁不起折腾，高速不要超过65。那个家长表示很好，说他儿子就是爱开快车，已经报废两辆车了，这个车正合适等等。把文件给他们，拿了支票就走人，也没有任何合同。结果到周一，那边打电话说声车有致命问题，支票已经取消，让我过去取车。问他什么致命问题，又说不上来。正好有朋友在读法学院，表示如果有麻烦愿意帮我跟他们谈。最终我又跑了一趟，拿回了卖车全款现金额外加五十（支票取消的罚款和我的油钱）。
楼主这里对方已经试了车，买了，这种交易都是as is. （书面口头应该都不要紧）除非他当时有问能不能过年检，而楼主撒谎，这才会有良心问题。实际上恐怕楼主的地区不需要年检，所以楼主也不知道会有怎样的问题，如果楼主的地区需要年检，文件里一般都会带着。我买第一辆车的时候，卖家就给我看了当年年检报告，虽然我们乡下不需要年检（通不过年检也未必是大问题。）
所以真正的關鍵是交易過程中你是否有提供不實的資訊 然而在你提供的資料中,老貓的瞭解是你們試過車,同時你也提供了過去的修理資料,因此對方基本上是在"同意"瞭解整個車況"的前題之下買這個車,同時出庭時提供法官惠慧提供的同款車平均價格的資料,證明你沒有在這個交易中謀取暴利,所以除非對方有實際證據能夠證明你在賣車時玩了花樣,你基本上應該沒事,因為 as long as 你沒有騙人, 這個雙方已經簽字的文件之法律意義與所代表的效力遠高於對方日後因車撿需要大修而改變心意的法律意義...所以你的工作是堅持雙方買賣時所簽暑的協議的合法性,不需再讓步,當然最壞狀況如果你碰到一個"極端自由派的法官,接受對方的說辭,最多也就是賠錢了事...所以 as long as 你無愧於心,就讓他告....不用怕....
The 2001 Honda CR-V EX (VIN: JHLRD18681C028948) you sold to me this past Saturday, December 16, 2017, is not safe to drive and will not pass either a basic safety or the required NY State inspection. I just got back from taking the vehicle to my mechanic. The emergency brake lines have been cut! The other brake lines are bad and they need to be replaced completely. The fuel line is also leaking and needs to be replaced. The work required just to pass the NY State inspection would cost over $2,000. I have included a copy of the estimate from my mechanic. As a courtesy, my mechanic called a couple of places for me to see if they would buy the vehicle in its current condition. One place said they weren't interested, and the other offered $225 if I deliver it to them. Unfortunately that is the actual and realistic resale value of the vehicle you sold to me for $1,700.00. The vehicle is a total loss.
The purpose of this letter is to ask you to reply to this immediately and to make the situation right by refunding me what I paid you. The course of action that I think would be easiest for both of us would be for you to immediately refund me $1,500.00 by venmo or paypal and I will sell the vehicle myself for $225. If you are concerned that I am not being honest, or think you can get more than $200 for the vehicle then I suggest that you refund me $1,700.00 and arrange for someone to tow the car to wherever you want it. I cannot recommend that either of us drive this car in its current condition. In both of these cases I will still lose the $263 I paid to the DMV to register the vehicle, not to mention the auto insurance policy on this vehicle which I can’t drive, or the gas I use driving back and forth.
It is not in my nature to be distrustful, or demanding. I would like to believe this has been a misunderstanding and you weren’t aware of the full implications of these safety issues, and I hope that you will do what you can to make this right as soon as possible.
If you do not willingly refund me within three (3) days, I will have to file a court complaint that you knowingly sold me an unsafe vehicle without telling me. In this case I will be seeking damages not only for the $1,700 I paid you for the vehicle, but also for the $263 in DMV fees, for the non refundable portion of my auto insurance policy, the cost of filing the complaint in Rensselaer County, and for other expenses I have incurred or will incur as a result of filing the complaint in court. I expect to have a very strong case in court. When I asked about the condition of the vehicle and what work you had done you only told me about the replacement of the exhaust system and the AC filter. I have the estimates, invoices and receipts that you left in the glove box of the vehicle. The invoices and receipts show that you did more work than you told me about. Additionally, there are estimates showing that you were aware of a number of issues with the car including the leaks and brake issues. There was a bottle of brake fluid left in the back of the vehicle, which would also show you were aware of the issue.
Again, I hope that this has been a misunderstanding and that we can resolve this quickly without involving the courts or the police.
请问律师朋友，我们签的bill of sale有没有法律效力？支持力大吗？
良心說您真正福大命大,開這車沒出任何事,如果對方所言屬實,這車根本不能上路....所以老貓會建議您退人家 $1500.
如果这些问题不是真的，不用理会他。如果是真的，你退款；找当初卖你这车的人要钱。当然，如果你回国就不回来了，也可以不理他。
If fuel line is leaking, you can smell it. What the buyer said in the email may not be truth. Why not let him go through the legal system. It is fair to both sides.
包括我回复他邮件的方法，
真上了法庭，怎么说话。
他知道我住哪栋楼，不知道是几号房间。他报警的话，警察会不会来抓我？
The judge said, used car no warranty. You should not worry about it. Since the car only $1700, he should know the condition. Good car not selling that price.
However, there are two easy way to result it.
1. refund partial money (never tell him that you will leave country)
2. If you know mechenic of car, it so easy. Ask someone who know how to fix it cost $0.
今天早上收到他发email到我学校的电子邮箱，和留在租房办公室的电子邮箱。
看来他已经来找我了。。。
我是不是不要露面，藏起来。
成交后有问题自认倒霉。上面同意退货的，有没有想过楼主万一拿回来的车，什么零件是换过的，什么地方不是原来自己的问题而是对方使用不当造成的，谁给楼主退货？
Sorry, all sales are final
我这一年开着车去布法罗、波士顿、纽黑文，跑了9000miles。没问题。这么老的车有点漏油是正常的吧。
那天他也试了车，什么路都试了。
本来快20年的破车了，他非要这也修那也换，非要整的跟新车似的，那当然会话大钱咯。
The buyer has checked all the conditions of the vehicle and agreed to buy it with the price shown above. Once the deal is finished, the vehicle can not be returned. No refund applicable.
你们俩，买主和卖主，都懂这段英文的意思吗？
朋友,做人要有原則...己所不欲,勿施於人......
這問題上小額庭,你可能會輸,因為 emergency break 的線路斷掉,你不可能不知,同時這是有關行車安全,你必須告知買家....
把錢退了,回家買個安心.
买这么便宜车的人一定没什么钱，碰到这种事，值得同情。
你卖车的时候是否提供了完全的信息？如果你没有如实提供信息，你的售价上是否体现出了这个问题？比如你少卖了1000块作为修车的开支。这个问题你应该自己有数。
这个其实已经不是法律问题，而是一个诚信的问题。
当然买家也有责任，买这么便宜的车应该考虑到通不过车检的可能，功课没做好。但是卖家显然比买家掌握更多的信息。
个人建议你可退一部分给他作为修车的补偿。
我以前的一辆车车，手刹不工作，我也没去修。因为平时开车用不到，停车时不停在坡上就没事。
emergency break不是手刹吧？
咋从来没有人同情我呢
美国每天多少几千元的民事纠纷，美国海关管得过来吗？
但是他这次说的我100%赞同。。。建议你不要回价， 把钱给人家，车子弄回来。
我怎么觉得楼主没有任何问题。买的人自己不送车行先检查，那他就得自己付责任。
而你的第一想法是如何逃过责任。就是你能够逃脱责任，我会因为有这样的同胞感到可耻。
美国人民会因为有你这样高尚、正义的forengner/移民而骄傲。
那个比你这个还过分，买家还没开回家，车就死在高速上了。卖家中国人，买家老墨。后来上法庭打官司，最后中国人赢了。旧车卖了就卖了，没有warranty的。好像那个中国人英语也不太好，也没请律师。法庭上都是她的女儿，一个不大的女孩帮她做翻译。而那个老墨有法庭指派的律师，但最后还是输了。$1700的车不可能perfect. 有些问题Owner也不一定知道。
You sold a piece of junk and he bought a piece of junk!
车死在高速上，好像问题不大，engine or transmission problems. no emergency brake or fuel line leaking 是危险状况。
官司打起来不好讲。
法律上賣主必須告知的三個問題是"水淹車","報廢車回魂",或是"拼裝車",所以這個問題樓主可以是不理對方的糾纏, 法律上也無需憂慮, 但是如果上小額庭,對方堅持 break 有問題,同時買時詢問過但是樓主沒有說實話,這就是有可能給承審的法官一個合理的原因考慮這個交易中, 合約法中有關"Goodwill" 的原則是否被侵害,因為小額庭的判決是法官一人決定,所以這個案件,樓主有可能會輸.
樓主的問題是應該在賣出時所簽的文件上大字標示這車賣時情況是 As is ....對方就無任何法律上的依據來鬧
所以你如果注意到,老貓的回應已經說明這是"非法律意見",因為老貓考慮的是一個人,做人處事的原則,為了 $1700, 出賣"誠信"與"處事原則",真正不值.....
他问我对这车做过什么？我说更换exhaust system和空调滤芯，我告诉他一些维修的receipt都在manaul里夹着呢。他没看。
我买这车回来，也花了将近1500刀维修和更换，毕竟一家人用，为了安全嘛。
我也后悔买的车太烂了，当时人生地不熟，语言又不精通，算了，就认了。我这情况，谁来同情我一下呢？
你聲稱"知道車爛",就代表了一切....謝謝您的回應....
對了,老貓教女是"不要求人同情,但是要能做到讓人尊敬",如此而已..您好走,不送.
丫每次都是占据道德高点，要当事人自认倒霉算了。这位到底是德育老师还是律师？!
这案子就是buyer's remorse。白纸黑字明确说了finale sale , no return 。没毛病的车那是新车。
这个牌子的车，我加很高的 mileages， 20万, 网上估价比1700 高。买车卖车一般会查一下当地价，我相信买主一样做过调查，所以如果过了车检，买主是赚了便宜的。从这点上，我首先不觉得楼主贪。
楼主如果倒卖车，可能有骗的嫌疑，但这是他自己开了一年的车，只能说他不懂或者对危害的标准低，他可以开的车，所以认为别人也能开。还有，他把所有修车检查的证明都放在车里，这成为后来买主against他明知不告的理由。可是如果他真的隐瞒有危险而且不愿意别人知道，他干嘛要放这些文件？ 我每次检车，车铺的人也会给我一个清单，让我修这修那，我一样会选择修或者不修。
买卖在签合同的时候，都应该为自己的决定负责。说楼主骗子，真的冤枉，如果是我，我不会怕打官司。
他跟你打官司，他赢不了。所有二手车买卖都是 sale as is 的规则，他签字前没看清是他的问题。你一点问题都没有。他给你写信，你也可以给他写信，把法律条文拿出来给他看。我觉得他在欺负你
他跟你打官司，他赢不了。所有二手车买卖都是 sale as is 的规则，他签字前没看清是他的问题。你一点问题都没有。他给你写信，你也可以给他写信，把法律条文拿出来给他看。我觉得他在欺负你
一穷二白，逼急了搞不好火起来把人给绑了，捅几刀，打一枪，或把小孩怎么样了。是我胆子特小么？怎么大家都不提自己和家人人身安全问题？为个一千多块钱结个仇人，给全家人请保彪可不止这钱呀
把人解雇了都有人拿枪把人崩了的，加州不是发生过这种事么
至於是否站在"道德制高點"那就見人見智, 您要反對老貓的看法那也隨您,老貓尊重您的意見...謝謝
老車子有問題那是一定的,但是煞車有問題,如果知情,卻不告知,在老貓看來這真正是有些問題,因為這事關對方的人身安全,不是說一紙文件可以免責就沒事的, (法律上是如此,但是其他的問題呢?)
或許樓主真正不知道,(如˙惠慧所說˙的)同時買方也不懂,因此沒出事,老貓只能說當事人與買家真正是福大命大,然而這樣說,如果這是你的家人,買到這種車,你會無動於衷,說這不是賣方的問題嗎?
當然老貓的建議並不是說老貓道德感比其他人高,,因為老貓看到的是當事人還真正有些良心,所以有此一答.... 老貓只是希望當事人做對的事
對於老貓錢不是重點,就算是真正要賣車,如果老貓知道車有這種情況,老貓不會賣這個車給有需要的人....這是老貓的一些想法...
良心說,老貓知道這個答覆會有爭議,但是基於良心,不吐不快,如果ˇ˙冒犯其他朋友,老貓只能說,非常抱歉....
所以這是為什麼在標題中,老貓說的不是很清楚,是"非法律的建議".....
因此如果老貓有任何不同的意見,並不是"教育"任何人,只是希望提供一個不同的思考方式中國不是有句古話,"益友有三,友直,友諒,有多聞"
子曰：「益者三友，損者三友；友直、友諒、友多聞，益矣；友便僻、友善柔、友便佞，損矣。」
友直：不邪曲、沒有私心、正直耿直的朋友。
友諒：守信用、誠實不欺騙的朋友。
友多聞：學問廣博，見識豐富淵博的朋友。
因此如果老貓有任何不同的意見,並不是"教育"任何人,只是希望提供一個不同的思考方式中國不是有句古話,"益友有三,友直,友諒,有多聞"
子曰：「益者三友，損者三友；友直、友諒、友多聞，益矣；友便僻、友善柔、友便佞，損矣。」
友直：不邪曲、沒有私心、正直耿直的朋友。
友諒：守信用、誠實不欺騙的朋友。
友多聞：學問廣博，見識豐富淵博的朋友。
这法律咨询，你只要按照你的专业技能，根据网友提供的有限事实就事论事就可以了。如果觉得有违你个人的价值理念，你可以不做回答。
那些“掏心窝子”的话，对于素不相识连基本互信都没有的网友，没必要。反而给人提供嚼舌头的由头，偏离法律咨询的初衷。
有些细节多少有点儿书呆。我跟老猫讨论完卖主的人品问题，现在静下心来又开始同情买主。楼主主要不太英文好，如果是我，可能会谈判一人让一半钱吧。
我已经不敢在craigslist上面买东西了，几年前买过一套办公室家具，拖回来发现抽屉打不开，一个椅子腿是断的，但因为说好final sale，我只能怪自己瞎了眼睛。我也很想知道这种两方同意的拍板买卖，到法庭上面能有什么其他结果，除了根据合同。
在推销上面，卖家不都是这样吗，不说不等于撒谎，谁会指着自己的东西说：桌子不好用，椅子该扔了。。。。
是貓族的"多重貓格"的代表.....所以一半是黑貓 (扮黑臉),一半是白貓 (扮白臉),至於會不會抓老鼠就不知道了....
美国人民会因为有你这样高尚、正义的forengner/移民而骄傲。
如果不是想幫忙,老貓幹什麼要管他的事?
大概真如另外一位朋友說的,老貓是有點心理不正常....
买家是美籍大陆人。当时是周六，之前通电话他们要买的意愿很强，和朋友开了两辆车一个半小时过去，他们决定买，但说没现金，银行关门，只能给支票。因为都是中国人，所以就答应了。那辆车我开了一年，那是我第一辆车，那一年的普通维护都是在pep boys 做的，收据都一并给了他们，然后嘱咐他们这是老爷车了，禁不起折腾，高速不要超过65。那个家长表示很好，说他儿子就是爱开快车，已经报废两辆车了，这个车正合适等等。把文件给他们，拿了支票就走人，也没有任何合同。结果到周一，那边打电话说声车有致命问题，支票已经取消，让我过去取车。问他什么致命问题，又说不上来。正好有朋友在读法学院，表示如果有麻烦愿意帮我跟他们谈。最终我又跑了一趟，拿回了卖车全款现金额外加五十（支票取消的罚款和我的油钱）。
楼主这里对方已经试了车，买了，这种交易都是as is. （书面口头应该都不要紧）除非他当时有问能不能过年检，而楼主撒谎，这才会有良心问题。实际上恐怕楼主的地区不需要年检，所以楼主也不知道会有怎样的问题，如果楼主的地区需要年检，文件里一般都会带着。我买第一辆车的时候，卖家就给我看了当年年检报告，虽然我们乡下不需要年检（通不过年检也未必是大问题。）
觉得楼主不要担心，这种人不要理他。看他能折腾出什么花样来。
我只给他回了一封email，说要去找个律师咨询这个事，然后联系他。就是咨询的大家。
今天收到他的email，他说要在下周一to file a claim at the court。不知道传票几天能到呀？我如果不在那里住了，是不是就不算收到传票了呢？
他说了，要在下周一to file a claim at the court 。
你回你的國,只要在開庭之日準時出庭...(你不出庭或是你沒有律師代表出庭,你自動輸).同時因為對方是原告,舉證的責任在對方,而對方最大問題是如果你們雙方已經簽署下列文件 (或是類似文件),要如何推翻這個文件?
所以真正的關鍵是交易過程中你是否有提供不實的資訊 然而在你提供的資料中,老貓的瞭解是你們試過車,同時你也提供了過去的修理資料,因此對方基本上是在"同意"瞭解整個車況"的前題之下買這個車,同時出庭時提供法官惠慧提供的同款車平均價格的資料,證明你沒有在這個交易中謀取暴利,所以除非對方有實際證據能夠證明你在賣車時玩了花樣,你基本上應該沒事,因為 as long as 你沒有騙人, 這個雙方已經簽字的文件之法律意義與所代表的效力遠高於對方日後因車撿需要大修而改變心意的法律意義...所以你的工作是堅持雙方買賣時所簽暑的協議的合法性,不需再讓步,當然最壞狀況如果你碰到一個"極端自由派的法官,接受對方的說辭,最多也就是賠錢了事...所以 as long as 你無愧於心,就讓他告....不用怕....
https://dmv.ny.gov/forms/mv912.pdf