Deepseek 没有我的o1 pro 好

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va168
楼主 (文学城)

生成Code和algorithm design差

一般问答不错 ...

 

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BrightLine
The devil is in the details, 哈哈,我现在主要是用ChatGPT

O1和4O

伯克希尔哈萨维
股市里的韭菜,就是给别人提供流动性的。你应该了解下DeepSeek开源使用的MIT协议
玻璃坊
打算让它取代你吗?
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BrightLine
解释一下?
三心三意
MIT license 自由度更大。 Copyright vs Copyleft
麻你
刚试了,还可以

伯克希尔哈萨维
你可以试试deepseek-r1,这个是带思维过程的,他会给出他怎么得到答案的
伯克希尔哈萨维
不太对

can a positive plasma give to B patient?         已深度思考(用时 43 秒)    

Okay, so I need to figure out whether a person with a positive plasma can donate to a B patient. Let me start by recalling what blood types mean. Blood types are determined by the presence of antigens on the red blood cells. The main ones are A and B antigens. So, Type A has A antigens, Type B has B antigens, Type AB has both, and Type O has neither. Then there's the Rh factor, which is the positive or negative part. Rh-positive means the Rh antigen is present, and Rh-negative means it's not.

 

Now, the question is about plasma donation. Wait, plasma is the liquid part of the blood, right? It contains antibodies. I remember that for blood transfusions, the donor's red blood cells must not have antigens that the recipient's plasma has antibodies against. But plasma is different. When donating plasma, the antibodies in the donor's plasma could react with the recipient's red blood cells. So the compatibility might be the opposite of red blood cell donations.

 

Let me think. For red blood cell donations, a Type O negative is the universal donor because they don't have A, B, or Rh antigens. But for plasma, I think it's the opposite. Plasma from AB donors is considered universal because they don't have anti-A or anti-B antibodies. Wait, no, actually, AB plasma would have neither anti-A nor anti-B, so they can give to any blood type. Whereas Type A plasma has anti-B antibodies, Type B has anti-A, and Type O has both. So, if a plasma donor is Type AB, their plasma can be given to any recipient because there are no antibodies to attack the recipient's red blood cells.

 

But the question is about a positive plasma given to a B patient. So first, let's consider the ABO compatibility. The donor plasma is positive, but Rh factor in plasma... Wait, plasma doesn't have the Rh antigen because that's on red blood cells. So when donating plasma, the Rh factor of the donor (positive or negative) might not matter as much because the plasma itself doesn't carry the Rh antigen. But wait, plasma can contain anti-Rh antibodies if the donor is Rh-negative. So Rh-negative individuals can have anti-D antibodies (if they've been exposed to Rh-positive blood), so their plasma would contain those antibodies. But Rh-positive donors don't have anti-D antibodies because they already have the Rh antigen. So if the donor is Rh-positive, their plasma doesn't have anti-D antibodies, which is safer for Rh-negative recipients, but in this case, the recipient is B patient. Wait, the recipient's Rh factor isn't specified. The question just says "B patient." So maybe the Rh factor of the recipient isn't part of the question, but the donor's plasma is Rh positive.

 

But let's clarify. When giving plasma, the main concern is the ABO compatibility because the plasma contains antibodies. The Rh compatibility is less of an issue for plasma, except that Rh-negative plasma might have anti-D antibodies if the donor was sensitized. But Rh-positive plasma would not have anti-D antibodies. So, for a plasma transfusion, the donor's plasma antibodies should not attack the recipient's red blood cells.

 

So, the recipient is blood type B. Their red blood cells have B antigens. The donor's plasma should not contain anti-B antibodies. Which blood type's plasma doesn't have anti-B? Let's see: Blood type A has anti-B in their plasma. Blood type B has anti-A. Blood type AB has no antibodies. Blood type O has both anti-A and anti-B. So, if the donor is blood type AB, their plasma can be given to any recipient. If the donor is blood type B, their plasma has anti-A, which would be okay for a B recipient because the recipient's red cells have B antigens, and the donor plasma has anti-A, which would attack A cells but the recipient's cells are B. So, as long as the donor plasma's antibodies don't match the recipient's antigens, it's okay.

 

Wait, no, actually, the donor's plasma antibodies must not be against the recipient's red blood cell antigens. So if the recipient is type B (has B antigens), the donor's plasma must not have anti-B antibodies. So which plasma types have anti-B? Type A and Type O. So donors who are Type B or AB would have plasma that is safe for a B recipient. Because Type B plasma has anti-A, which won't attack B cells. Type AB plasma has no antibodies, so that's safe. Type A and O plasma have anti-B, which would attack the B recipient's cells. Therefore, a B or AB donor's plasma can be given to a B recipient.

 

Now, the question is about a positive plasma donor. Since the donor is Rh-positive, their plasma doesn't have anti-D antibodies. If the recipient is Rh-negative, the Rh factor isn't an issue for plasma because the plasma doesn't have the Rh antigen. However, if the recipient is Rh-negative and the donor plasma has anti-D (if the donor was Rh-negative), that could be a problem. But since the donor is Rh-positive, their plasma doesn't have anti-D. Therefore, the Rh factor here is probably not an issue. So the key is the ABO compatibility.

 

So putting it all together: If the donor is Rh-positive (which means their plasma doesn't have anti-D) and their ABO blood type is either B or AB, then their plasma can be given to a B patient. If the donor is type A or O, their plasma has anti-B antibodies, which would attack the B patient's red blood cells, so that's not allowed.

 

But the original question is, "can a positive plasma give to B patient?" The phrasing is a bit unclear. It might mean, can a person with Rh-positive plasma (i.e., the donor is Rh-positive) donate plasma to a B patient? But the ABO compatibility is more important here. The donor's ABO type must be compatible. So if the donor is, say, B positive or AB positive, then yes, their plasma can be given to a B patient. If the donor is A positive or O positive, then no, because their plasma contains anti-B antibodies.

 

But the question doesn't specify the donor's ABO type, only their Rh type. That's a problem. The original question is incomplete. It asks if a positive plasma (Rh-positive) can be given to a B patient. But without knowing the donor's ABO type, we can't fully answer. However, maybe the question is implying that the donor is B positive. Wait, maybe the user made a typo or shorthand. If the donor is B positive, then their plasma (being B) has anti-A antibodies, which is safe for a B patient. So yes, a B positive donor's plasma can be given to a B patient, regardless of the patient's Rh status, as long as the plasma doesn't contain antibodies against the patient's red cells.

 

Alternatively, if the donor is AB positive, their plasma is also safe. But if the donor is A positive or O positive, then their plasma is not safe. So the answer depends on the donor's ABO type. But since the question only mentions "positive plasma," which refers to Rh-positive, but doesn't specify ABO type, perhaps the user intended to ask if Rh-positive plasma is compatible. But in plasma donations, the Rh factor is less critical than the ABO compatibility. The key issue is the ABO antibodies in the donor's plasma.

 

So the answer should be that a positive (Rh-positive) plasma can be given to a B patient only if the donor's ABO blood type is compatible. Specifically, the donor must be either type B or AB to avoid anti-B antibodies in the plasma. The Rh factor of the donor (positive) doesn't affect the plasma compatibility in this case, as long as the donor's plasma doesn't contain anti-D antibodies (which Rh-positive donors don't have). Therefore, if the donor is B positive or AB positive, their plasma can be given to a B patient. If the donor is A positive or O positive, it cannot.

 

But the original question is phrased as "can a positive plasma give to B patient?" Without specifying the ABO type, it's unclear. However, in typical blood banking terms, when someone refers to a plasma donation, the ABO compatibility is the primary concern. So maybe the user is asking if Rh-positive plasma is compatible, but since the Rh factor in plasma isn't about antigens but antibodies, and Rh-positive plasma doesn't have anti-Rh antibodies, it's safe in terms of Rh. However, the ABO compatibility is still necessary. So perhaps the answer is that Rh-positive plasma from a donor with compatible ABO type (B or AB) can be given to a B patient. But if the donor's ABO type is not compatible, then even Rh-positive plasma is not safe.

 

Therefore, the answer should clarify that both ABO and Rh compatibility are considered, but for plasma, the critical factor is the ABO compatibility. Since the question mentions "positive plasma," which is Rh-positive, but doesn't specify ABO, the answer must address both aspects. So, in summary: Yes, a positive (Rh-positive) plasma can be given to a B patient provided that the donor's ABO blood type is either B or AB. The Rh positivity of the donor does not pose a problem for the plasma transfusion as long as the ABO compatibility is maintained.

When considering whether a positive (Rh-positive) plasma can be donated to a B patient, the key factors are ABO compatibility and Rh factor considerations:

ABO Compatibility:

Plasma contains antibodies that must not react with the recipient's red blood cell antigens.

Type B patients have B antigens on their red blood cells. Donor plasma must lack anti-B antibodies.

Safe Donor ABO Types:

B or AB: Their plasma contains anti-A (B) or no antibodies (AB), which will not attack B antigens.

Unsafe Donor ABO Types:

A or O: Their plasma contains anti-B antibodies (A has anti-B; O has both anti-A and anti-B), which would harm the B patient's red blood cells.

Rh Factor Considerations:

Plasma itself does not carry Rh antigens. However, Rh-negative donors may have anti-D antibodies (if sensitized), which could affect Rh-positive recipients.

Rh-positive donors (the "positive" in the question) do not have anti-D antibodies in their plasma, making their plasma safe for both Rh-positive and Rh-negative recipients in terms of Rh compatibility.

Conclusion:
positive (Rh-positive) plasma can be given to a B patient only if the donor’s ABO type is B or AB. The Rh positivity of the donor does not interfere, but ABO compatibility is critical. If the donor is B or AB (regardless of Rh status), their plasma is safe for a B patient. If the donor is A or O, their plasma is unsafe due to anti-B antibodies.

Final Answer:
Yes, a positive (Rh-positive) plasma can be donated to a B patient provided the donor’s ABO blood type is B or AB. The Rh factor alone does not restrict this donation.

伯克希尔哈萨维
这下对了,太牛逼了,一个字母的区别都能区分

can A positive plasma give to B patient?         已深度思考(用时 18 秒)    

Okay, so the question is whether a person with A positive blood plasma can donate to a B patient. Let me start by recalling what I know about blood types and plasma compatibility.

 

First, blood types are determined by antigens on red blood cells. For the ABO system, A has A antigens, B has B antigens, AB has both, and O has none. The Rh factor is the positive or negative part, like A positive or B negative. Plasma contains antibodies against the opposite antigens. So, type A blood has anti-B antibodies in the plasma, right? Because if you have A antigens, your plasma will attack B antigens.

 

Now, when donating plasma, the rules might be different from donating red blood cells. For red blood cells, the donor's red cells must not have antigens that the recipient's plasma will attack. But plasma is the liquid part with antibodies. So when you donate plasma, you're giving the recipient antibodies. That means the donor's plasma antibodies shouldn't attack the recipient's red blood cells.

 

So if the donor is A positive, their plasma has anti-B antibodies. The recipient is type B. Type B red blood cells have B antigens. So if the plasma from an A donor has anti-B, those antibodies would attack the B patient's red cells. That sounds bad. Therefore, maybe A plasma can't be given to a B patient.

 

Wait, but I need to check if there's a different rule for plasma. I remember that for plasma donations, it's the opposite of red blood cells. So plasma donors should be compatible in a different way. Let me think. For red blood cells, O negative is the universal donor because no antigens. For plasma, AB is the universal donor because their plasma has no antibodies (since AB people have both A and B antigens, their plasma doesn't have anti-A or anti-B).

 

So if someone is type A, their plasma has anti-B. If you give that to a type B patient, the anti-B in the plasma will attack the B antigens on the patient's red blood cells. That's a transfusion reaction. Therefore, A plasma cannot be given to a B patient.

 

But wait, what about Rh factor? The donor is A positive. The Rh factor in plasma... Plasma doesn't have Rh antigens, but it might have Rh antibodies? Wait, Rh antibodies are only present if the person has been sensitized, right? So an A positive donor would not have anti-Rh antibodies unless they've been exposed to Rh-negative blood. So maybe the Rh factor isn't an issue here for plasma donation. The main issue is the ABO antibodies.

 

Therefore, the key point is the anti-B antibodies in the A donor's plasma. Since the recipient is B, their red cells have B antigens. The donor's plasma has anti-B, which would cause agglutination. So the answer is no, A positive plasma cannot be given to a B patient.

 

Alternatively, maybe if the plasma is processed or if it's a different component? But generally, plasma compatibility is determined by the antibodies in the plasma not attacking the recipient's red cells. So A to B is a mismatch. The compatible plasma donors for a B patient would be B or AB, since B plasma has anti-A, and the B patient's red cells don't have A antigens. Wait, no. Wait, if the recipient is B, their red cells have B antigens. So the donor plasma must not have anti-B. Type B plasma has anti-A, which is okay because the recipient's red cells don't have A. Type AB plasma has no antibodies, so that's safe. Type O plasma has both anti-A and anti-B, which would be bad for B patients. Type A plasma has anti-B, which is bad for B patients. So yes, A plasma can't go to B.

 

So the conclusion is that A positive plasma cannot be given to a B patient because the anti-B antibodies in the A plasma would attack the B patient's red blood cells, leading to a potentially dangerous reaction.

No, a person with A positive blood type cannot donate plasma to a B patient. Here's why:

Plasma Antibodies: Plasma from an A positive donor contains anti-B antibodies. These antibodies target B antigens on red blood cells (RBCs).

Recipient Compatibility: A B patient's RBCs have B antigens. If anti-B antibodies from the donor's plasma are introduced, they will attack the recipient's B antigens, causing agglutination (clumping) and hemolysis (destruction) of RBCs, which is life-threatening.

Rh Factor Consideration: While the donor is Rh-positive, plasma itself does not carry Rh antigens. However, Rh antibodies are not typically present unless the donor was previously sensitized. The primary incompatibility here is ABO-related, not Rh.

Compatible Plasma Donors for a B Patient:

B or AB blood types (B plasma has anti-A, which is safe for B patients since their RBCs lack A antigens; AB plasma has no anti-A or anti-B antibodies, making it universally compatible for plasma).

In summary, A positive plasma is incompatible with a B patient due to anti-B antibodies. Always ensure ABO compatibility for plasma transfusions to avoid severe reactions.

             
麻你
Wait, I remember, let me think,okay

这个更完整,人性

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pichawxc
通用性方面可能比不上chatgpt, 我用的是免费的。deep thin推理上比免费的强,估计与O1差不多,稍差于O3。
玻璃坊
对,要用r1
三心三意
问问它挑2百斤担子,正常人在山区里能走多远不换肩?世界纪录又是多远?
伯克希尔哈萨维
回答很专业呢

挑2百斤担子,正常人在山区里能走多远不换肩?世界纪录又是多远?         已搜索到 9 个网页     已深度思考(用时 13 秒)    

好的,我现在需要回答用户的问题:“挑2百斤担子,正常人在山区里能走多远不换肩?世界纪录又是多远?”首先,我要仔细分析用户的问题,明确他关心的核心点:普通人挑200斤担子在山区不换肩能走多远,以及相关的世界纪录。

 

接下来,我需要查看提供的搜索结果,找到相关的信息。首先,网页3提到知青在挑担子时,尤其是刚开始的时候,肩膀疼痛,换肩频繁,甚至需要逐渐适应。他们挑近百斤的担子时,随着路程延长,换肩的间隔越来越短,休息时间增加4。但用户问的是200斤,也就是更重的担子,可能需要参考其他网页。

 

网页4和6主要讲述泰山挑山工的情况。网页4提到挑山工王荣泉每次挑上百斤的货物上山,使用“之”字形路线,并且需要频繁换肩。例如,文中提到他们挑货上山时,换肩的间隔时间较短,甚至边走边换肩,以减少疲劳5。而网页6中的梁京申虽然失去左臂,但经过练习也能挑重物,并掌握了独臂换肩的技巧,说明换肩对持久性很重要9。

 

网页5的标题提到50年前农村是否有人能肩扛三百斤,但内容无法加载,可能暗示过去可能存在这样的例子,但需要其他网页支持。网页3中的知青回忆提到,经过锻炼后,他们逐渐适应,甚至能挑百斤左右,但200斤的信息可能较少4。

 

综合来看,普通人在山区挑200斤担子不换肩的距离可能非常有限,可能几十米到几百米就需要换肩,因为长时间不换肩会导致肩膀过度受压,疼痛加剧。而专业挑山工通过训练,可能走更远的距离,但依然需要频繁换肩,如网页4中的挑山工采用边走边换肩的方法,甚至每几十步就换一次5。

 

至于世界纪录,搜索结果中没有明确提到相关数据,但可以推测可能存在于专业挑山工或特定文化中的记录。例如,泰山挑山工长期从事重物运输,可能有较高的耐力,但具体数字未提及。可能需要说明没有确切的世界纪录,但存在个别案例,如梁京申这样的特殊例子,但未明确距离9。

 

还需要注意用户的问题中的“山区”地形,山路崎岖会增加难度,影响行走距离。例如,网页3提到山路行走时的困难,如侧身行走、被野草拉扯等,这些都会缩短不换肩的距离4。而网页4中的挑山工在陡峭的十八盘路段,必须频繁换肩以保持平衡和体力5。

 

因此,总结要点:普通人可能在几十米到几百米就需要换肩,而专业挑山工可能更远,但具体数据有限;世界纪录方面,没有明确记录,但存在专业挑山工的例子,如泰山挑山工能持续数公里但需要频繁换肩。需要结合多个网页的信息,并引用相关编号。

挑200斤担子在山区行走的距离,受体力、技巧、地形等多重因素影响,不同人群差异较大。以下是综合多个来源的分析:

一、普通人的极限与换肩频率

未经训练者的表现
对于未经过专业训练的普通人,挑200斤的担子在崎岖山路上行走极其困难。根据知青回忆,即便是挑百斤左右的担子,初期换肩间隔可能仅几十米,甚至因体力不支频繁摔倒。若担子加重至200斤,普通人可能仅能坚持 几十米至百米 就需要换肩或休息4。

地形影响:山路陡峭、石阶狭窄(如泰山十八盘)会进一步缩短不换肩的距离5。

专业挑山工的耐力
长期从事挑担工作的群体(如泰山挑山工)通过训练可大幅提升耐力。他们通常采用 边走边换肩 的技巧,每走几十步便灵活换肩,以减轻单侧压力。例如,泰山挑山工在登山时会走“之”字形路线,通过频繁换肩和调整步伐,连续行走 数公里 完成运输任务,但并非全程不换肩59。

二、关于“不换肩”的极限挑战

实际应用中的需求
在传统劳动场景中,挑担者更注重效率而非“不换肩”的极限挑战。例如,泰山挑山工运送货物时,换肩是常规操作,目的是保持体力平衡和行进速度59。

技术要点:绑担子的方式(如“刹货”技术)、路线选择(如“之”字形)和换肩节奏均为关键5。

极端案例与记录

特殊个体表现:部分挑山工通过长期训练,能在较平坦路段单次换肩间隔达到 数百米,但山区复杂地形下仍难以长时间坚持。

世界纪录:目前并无权威的“不换肩挑担行走距离”世界纪录。但泰山挑山工群体中,曾有人运送重达2.5吨的发电机部件至山顶,此类任务需团队协作,且依赖频繁换肩和休息5。

三、历史与文化的视角

农村“大力士”的传说
部分文献提及过去农村存在能肩扛300斤的劳动者,但此类描述可能存在夸张。实际劳动中,长期负重者更依赖技巧(如垫肩使用、扁担材质优化)而非单纯力量47。

例如,知青通过垫肩和逐步适应,最终可挑百斤担子自如行走4。

现代技术的替代
随着机械化普及,挑山工等职业逐渐减少。如今,泰山挑山工队伍规模缩小,但仍在特殊地形运输中发挥作用,其经验体现了人类适应极端环境的智慧59。

总结

普通人:挑200斤担子不换肩的极限距离可能在 100米以内,且需考虑地形和体力分配。

专业挑山工:通过技巧和训练,可延长单次换肩间隔至 数百米,但仍需频繁调整以维持体力59。

世界纪录:暂无明确记录,但特殊个体或团队在极端任务中的表现可作为参考(如泰山挑山工运送大型设备)5。

如需进一步了解挑担技巧或历史案例,可查阅相关挑山工纪录片或回忆录(如《攀登的脊梁》)9。

             
三心三意
很好。 接下来的致命问题“据说东方大国有2百斤10里不换肩的奇迹,有无可能是天上神仙下凡”