Palantir - 今天看了一下数据,大佬们解释一下为什么值钱?我觉得一股十块都多了,哈哈

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1. Revenue 2.64B

2. EBITDA 397M

3. PE 332.68

4. Market Cap 149.759B

5. Price: 65.77

Am I reading sth wrong?  This is software company targeting Federal Market... It should only worth $6. 

并没有太多增长的空间啊,尤其新政府还要砍预算?

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知道peter Thiel很厉害,是他们在炒作吗?郁金香也能上天啊
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进index 后 , 大基金(大资金)均会买进, 有点

类似当年的tsla。

 

今年9 月买进的话, 到现在回报已经 85 %:

 

 

pltr ytd  : 288%, 比nvda ytd 都厉害了:

 

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还是沾上AI就飞上天?比起它来,NVDA简直就便宜太多了,PE 66, 哈哈
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三心二意,李医生,越王说说?你们都有,我怎么看也下不了手啊,哈哈
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pltr 排名 top 26 %:
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BrightLine
怎么看都是泡沫泡沫大泡沫,我觉得我应该学习买put啦,哈哈
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BrightLine
觉得像GME,庄家很厉害,但是最后还是要看盈利和增长的。
成功的兔
不知道,有个call,那我周一把它出了?
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BrightLine
不能听我的,我才刚开始研究,肯定有些东西我不懂,哈哈
未知
投资第一原则:不懂的,不要买!

美国有近6千只上市的股票,和更多的没有上市的股票,不需要每只股票都知道。需要的是少而精。

桃花源里人家
我和你的看法一样
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justbuy168
主力想拉高出货吧!
越王剑
Two legendary billionaire investors are in this one

I don't think they have sold any shares yet.

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pltr insider 11/15/2024 还在买:
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GME was the same way... Keith kept buying... MEME stock

but they don't have the growth and profit to sustain... It's a MEME stock sydrone...

越王剑
这个价位我肯定不会去买

我是二十六,二十八附近买的。李医生买的更低。

现在这个价位不会去买。但是也没必要卖。只能等机会。

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我没有看到他们有像OpenAi那样的颠覆性的黑科技,我认为是吹的,由马斯克来做政府效率部,有些政府合同随时被砍掉!
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I think so. They don't have any AI - just connect to OpenAI.

Fake AI company

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英伟达有很深的护城河。如果PLTR有什么特别颠覆性的黑科技,请在这里分享。
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啊,那还能投资?
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我看过他们的软件演示,主要是个数据分析平台,没有什么黑科技。根本不能颠覆任何行业。不知道为什么这么火
南京姑娘
peter Thiel 是 jd vance 的 mentor; 是paypal 出来的。他的政府合同只会多不会少。
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149B -> much bigger than INTC or Boeing

灵山问禅
因为Vance 是 Peter 的人
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Yes, Politically charged but Federal is only that big

Growth is limited

三心三意
Brghtline, see blow

First of all, PLTR price at current level is clearly overvalued. There are multiple reasons for this, driven by its blowout earning, Trump win, as well potential of being added into QQQ. All in all, momentum is probably driving at least 20% bubble value into the stock price at current level. This is why I bought put hedge on Thursday to protect the potential downside to 50.

Long term valuation side, we want to use foward 12 months looking finanicals, instead of trailing 12 months result. As it stands right now, Wall street is expecting 3.47B revenue and 0.56 EPS in 2025. Obviously, even with this forward metrics, stock still looks expensive.

However. PLTR delivered some outstanding result in the most recent Q3, and it has fundamentally changed analyst's projection in 2 areas (These projections have not been reflected in the above 2025 numbers, and I expect analyst will publish their revisions in next couple of weeks)

PLTR showed "substaintial" growth in the commerical sector. It grew 54% and now accounts for 40% of PLTR's revenue. This is considered as a blowout. The thesis right now is that no one really knows how big AI will become and for now people believe PLTR will not slow down and we should see this hyper growth continue. Second is that PLTR has exceeded operating margin expectation by almost 400bps (38% vs 34% expected). This is an early sign of scaling as people believe PLTR's margin will keep increasing with more and more customers adopting the solution

All together, I expect wall street will revise 2025 projection to be closer to 3.8B revenue and EPS in the range of 0.65, with company growing at 45% speed. If we assign a PEG (PE vs Earning growth) of 1.5, that will give us a very aggresive PE ratio of 70, which translate to a stock price of roughly $45 in 2024.

南京姑娘
PLTR 现在在做政府的生意,但是没说一直就做政府的生意。
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谢谢你的分析,很有帮助,简而言之,现在有momentum。如果他不能grow 50%, 股价马上到12块。3B的收入

20%growth能够支持30B的市值,那么每股12块,哈哈

三心三意
Exactly, 未来3个季度, 任何一个季度增速达不到我上面的指标,股价当天掉1/3或腰斩
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gme 是行业里垫底的,总8k 员工, 每人每年只赚800 多美元, 咋比的了pltr ?lol

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类比而已,你认为2B收入的公司值150B?同等类型的公司撑死20B,哈哈