不否认中国在文化上的落后

勿来三
楼主 (文学城)

看看100年前的还没有共产党的中国吧,大街上的人贫穷,愚昧,精神状态低落。医疗、卫生、教育、物质,...统统落后于西方和日本。

1922年跑去上海(中国最发达地区)的爱因斯坦是这么评论中国人的,"勤劳、肮脏、愚钝"。他注意到,"中国人吃饭时不坐在凳子上,而是像欧洲人在树林里如厕那样蹲着……(中国人)安静、拘束,就连孩子看上去都很呆板、愚钝。"

有凳子为什么不坐,不就是因为穷没凳子嘛。

如今的中国与100年前完全不可同日而语。知道什么差别吗?别的不知道,的确是在共产党统治了70年后。

当然还有距离,还在继续往前追。

达姆TU
文化层面上看,现在跟100年前没有太大差异,或者说没有本质差异。毕竟这100年间没有文化启蒙式运动
达姆TU
中国人作为整体,并没有走出蒙昧时代,走进理性时代
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greenoasis
中国文化不落后。跟任何文化比都可以骄傲。落后的是过去300年的思维。
勿来三
若按你这么说,那就跟共产党没有关系了
达姆TU
有一定关系,共产党继续的刻意的愚民
勿来三
一个多数人不识字的社会,哪有什么文化先进可谈?
达姆TU
你先明白自己在说什么再打着字
什么叫文化?文化怎么细分?细分下去的文化怎么比较,整合起来又怎么比较?你就别随250起舞了

勿来三
那不错啊,即使刻意愚民了还没有变得更坏
达姆TU
毕竟还是部分的学习了西方啊,不然哪儿来的发展
勿来三
我觉得文化首先得认字,然后有记载,然后可以传授、延伸下去

科学,音乐,艺术都离不开文字记载。中国近代缺了这项。

勿来三
共产党一直主张洋为中用呀
什么叫本质?本质怎么度量或者划分?本质差异怎么比较?

达姆TU
认字,记载,传授,这些只是表象。厉害国人缺的是欧洲的启蒙运动那样的一场思维方式的改革,真正运用起理性来
达姆TU
共产党部分的学习了西方,事实,但还需要更多,但共产党刻意阻止,为了好统治
达姆TU
你看不懂没必要强行接话
没这么简单。
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greenoasis
先搞清楚什么是文化再说。古埃及更是多数人不识字。
你还有什么招?你的理性呢?就是骗人而已

勿来三
确保能维持统治是所有政权都必须首先要做好的

倘若不阻止学习西方,中国的发展已经成为GDP第一,你觉得美国会更高兴吗?

勿来三
希望能搞清楚文明与文化的区别:)
小小得意楼
那五四运动是怎么回事?那时候就说要文字拉丁化了

你现在才认识到,都落后了100 多年了。

达姆TU
共产党把统治权放到民族发展之上。美国高兴不高兴,你不需要考虑,既然爱国,就考虑本民族利益。
达姆TU
五四运动是一场小规模的知识分子的运动
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blushtabby
你说的是自己吧?太极端的人容易给人愚钝的感觉Lol
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pop4
中华民族的发展有赖于共党的统治。
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blushtabby
文化是精英们总结推动的
达姆TU
共产党把中华民族折腾得够可以了,只是不缺跪----舔的狗而已
达姆TU
说的你这类人群
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blushtabby
你要不就是愚昧要不就是睁眼说瞎话为黑而黑。哈哈还神马“你不用思考”,学得还挺快

那是JT名言

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pop4
中华民族绝大多数都是超理性的跪----舔的狗,所以选择了共党。
达姆TU
人民选择没选择共党,不清楚,人民没有选择权
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pop4
超理性的人为了中华民族的发展不让不赞同共党的人有选择权。
达姆TU
我只是回答你的问题,你疑问说的谁,我回答说的你。
他就爱这么虚张声势,其实他说了一堆废话,还大谈理性,思维

小小得意楼
文字是一直都有的,各种科举考试也促进了中国人对文化教育的重视

中国的文字是一直都有的,但是可能是统治阶层对文化的控制比较严,这样有利于保障社会秩序,但是可能不利于独创,冒险和百家争鸣。

李永乐老师说欧洲的科学精神和黑死病有关,大量人群的死亡,导致人们开始寻求科学。视频在这里:。

 

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greenoasis
的确是个好问题。查了一下,定义在这里

https://keydifferences.com/difference-between-culture-and-civilization.html

简单来说,文化(culture) is the end, 文明 (civilization) is the means. 

Culture can evolve and flourish, even if the civilization does not exist. In contrast, civilization cannot grow and exist without culture.

Difference Between Culture and Civilization

Last updated on January 13, 2018 by Surbhi S

Have you ever wondered why the one who is poor and in a shabby attire is regarded as uncivilized, even though he may be the most cultured person and the one in a sophisticated outfit, is called civilized, but, may not be having the sense of culture? Culture is everything about the human society, i.e. it refers to the knowledge and features of a specific group of people living in a region.

On the other extreme, civilization is the breakthrough of the human society meaning that it is the advanced level of social and human development.

People often conflate the terms culture and civilization and end up using them synonymously. Go through with the article presented before you, to have a deeper understanding of the difference between culture and civilization.

Content: Culture Vs Civilization Comparison Chart Definition Key Differences Conclusion

Comparison Chart

 

BASIS FOR COMPARISON CULTURE CIVILIZATION
Meaning Culture is a term used to denote the manifestation of the manner in which we think, behave and act. Civilization refers to the process through which a region or society, outstretches an advanced stage of human development and organization.
What is it? End Means
Represents What we are? What we possess?
Reflected in Religion, art, dance, literature, customs, morals, music, philosophy, etc. Law, administration, infrastructure, architecture, social arrangement, etc.
Expression Higher level of inner refinement. Higher level of general development.
Advancement No Yes
Interdependency Culture can grow and exist without civilization. Civilization cannot grow and exist without culture.

 

Definition of Culture

The term ‘culture’ is a Latin origin of the world ‘cultus’, which refers to cultivating or refining something, in such a way that it provides admiration and respect. In finer terms, culture is the way people live, reflected in the language they spoke, food they eat, clothes they wear and the Diety they follow or worship. It expresses the manner in which one thinks and do things.

In other words, culture is the set of knowledge, experiences and behaviours which is commonly shared by a group of people. It is something that a person gains through learning.

Culture includes art, knowledge, belief, customs, traditions, morals, festivals, values, attitudes, habits and so on which are inherited by a person as a member of society. It is everything; an individual achieves as a member of a social group. It can be seen in the literature, music, dance forms, religious practices, dressing style, food habits, ways of greeting others, recreation and enjoyment. Different cultures can be found in different places, as it varies from region to region.

Definition of Civilization

Civilization is described as a process of civilizing or say developing the state of human society, to the extent that the culture, industry, technology, government, etc. reaches the maximum level. The term ‘civilization’ is derived from a Latin term ‘civis’ which indicates ‘someone who resides in a town’.

The term ‘civilization’ is not confined to town; rather it talks about adopting better ways of living, and making best possible use of nature’s resources, so as to satisfy the needs of the group of people. Further, it stresses on systematising society into various groups that work collectively and constantly to improve the quality of life, regarding food, education, dress, communication, transportation, and the like.

Key Differences Between Culture and Civilization

The following points are noteworthy, so far as the difference between culture and civilization is concerned:

The term ‘culture’ refers to the embodiment of the manner in which we think, behave and act. On the contrary, the improved stage of human society, where members have the considerable amount of social and political organisation and development, is called Civilization. Our culture describes what we are, but our civilization explains what we have or what we make use of. Culture is an end; it has no measurement standards. As against this, civilization has precise measurement standards, because it is a means. The culture of a particular region can be reflected in religion, art, dance, literature, customs, morals, music, philosophy, etc. On the other hand, the civilization is exhibited in the law, administration, infrastructure, architecture, social arrangement, etc. of that area. Culture denote the greatest level of inner refinement, and so it is internal. Unlike, civilization which is external, i.e. it is the expression of state of the art technology, product, devices, infrastructure and so forth. Change in culture is observed with time, as in the old thoughts and traditions lost with the passage of time and new ones are added to it which are then transmitted from one generation to another. On the flip side, civilization is continuously advancing, i.e. the various elements of civilization like means of transportation, communication, etc. are developing day by day. Culture can evolve and flourish, even if the civilization does not exist. In contrast, civilization cannot grow and exist without culture.

Conclusion

Therefore, one should not confuse culture for civilization. However, both are created by human beings and expresses, the way we led our lives. These two gives us the ideas, ideals, values and ways to live a decent and lavish life.

达姆TU
14亿人,谁赞同谁不赞同,没人知道。只有跪-舔的狗宣称都赞同。
小小得意楼
欧洲的文艺复兴也一样,农民哪里有时间搞创作
达姆TU
不要只懂个文艺复兴,我说的是启蒙运动,你可能连这是两个东西都不知道
小小得意楼
你说的是中世纪前还是中世纪后,啥启蒙运动,都干了啥
达姆TU
以启蒙运动为关键词Google,常识不应该我给你补。
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greenoasis
文化和认字没有必然联系。很多习俗都是文化
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pop4
不赞同的自会造反。赞同的就是要不许他们造反。如果不赞同的不造反,说明还可以。
小小得意楼
原来你是说资产阶级大革命,这个是和工业革命有关的

没有文艺复兴,就没有后来的大革命,中国是前面一步都没走到。

达姆TU
不赞同到造反,有十万八千里路,说话要带脑
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pop4
不赞同也不造反,说明情况还不错。
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walkalong
你所说只是不能否认100年前中国落后。从任何定义上,都扯不上文化落后上去。
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blueberre
是,香港被帝国统治了近100年,还是这个得性, 争民主,其实不知道民主为何物, 不懂得妥协, 顺我者昌逆我者亡,说实话,TG

这次在香港问题上却表现出了前所未有得克制,当然,也有可能是力不从心,不得不忍

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walkalong
以“厉害国”代称中国,确实很不理性,缺的是欧洲的。。。外国人都会老老实实地称中国,不会瞎给一大国起外号。
小小得意楼
所以说,自己就不理性,还讨论啥理性
勿来三
非洲就有许多习俗,但文化远远落后

有习俗不等于有文化

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greenoasis
还真不一定就落后。文化不是算术题,很难有对错或者先进落后一说。这种思维就落入西方殖民地还有纳粹那些圈套里了。
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trendspike
饿死3000万也没人造反。
衡山老道
读书人的比例太少,可以说是文化落后