三十天之内先买后卖,应该不算wash sale。

柠檬椰子汁
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https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/1091

(a)Disallowance of loss deduction

In the case of any loss claimed to have been sustained from any sale or other disposition of shares of stock or securities where it appears that, within a period beginning 30 days before the date of such sale or disposition and ending 30 days after such date, the taxpayer has acquired (by purchase or by an exchange on which the entire amount of gain or loss was recognized by law), or has entered into a contract or option so to acquire, substantially identical stock or securities, then no deduction shall be allowed under section 165

虽然法律文字上说: within a period beginning 30 days before the date of such sale .... the taxpayer has acquired ... substantially identical stock or securities, then no deduction shall be allowed

那么,如果我仅仅是5/1买了某股票,5/2全部卖掉,有loss。根据以上定义,由于5/2卖掉之前30天我买了这个股票,这个也是wash sale?道理说不通。

 

 

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iBear
不算. Wash sale 是经过交易,股票不变,但是过程中间有交易亏损. 这些亏损不能抵税.
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study169
算Wash sale,解释是这样的

5/1 买200股,5/2 卖掉100股有loss, 这个loss就不能用来for tax deduction,但这个loss被剩下的100股carry,提高了成本。等剩下的100股卖掉以后,如果还有loss,可以for tax deduction。其实wash sale没有那么可怕,一般早晚可以用,如果有loss。

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iBear
不是这样算的. 买200 卖100, 买的就分成2份来算了.
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iBear
这两份毫不相干.从来没有这些股票的账放到别的股票上的. 哈哈
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qiandongshenxia
First in, First out.
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study169
也许同时买的系统不这么算,但我在几天内分两次买的IWM,最后一天卖了一部分,Fidelity就给我算

wash sale了。理论上没有什么区别,如果全部卖掉,报税时可以算多次买入,一次卖出。

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iBear
Rules for a wash sale
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iBear
long: 没有30天内买回股票就没有wash sale.
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iBear
"pre-rebuy" shares within 30 days before selling your share
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iBear
分批买的可能算wash sale.
君子花农
算。只要你还持有此股票,不管那些股票何时买的。
君子花农
我从来不担心洗卖。loss is loss,迟算早算而已。不操那个心。
叮咚
我的理解是wash sale的loss不能拿来抵税。这是IRS防止人漏税
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t130152
那在30天之内把股票卖掉,再买期权,或是从另一帐户上买入怎么算?永久损失?
君子花农
只是把次loss加在了cost上面,换句话说增加了将来的loss或者减少了profit。税务上可能会有一些差别,仅此而已
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t130152
还是要担心为好比如股票帐户的Wash sale是由退休帐户触发的。损失无法弥补。
君子花农
Yes, that becomes very complicated.
君子花农
洗卖的规则非常复杂,有时侯券商不一定帮你算,比如不同账号之间,不同券商之间,类似equity之间。所以越简单越好。