看上的那个多家庭

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newleaf2020
楼主 (文学城)

8unit,靠近学校,我猜可能租客以年轻人为主。租金一年75k,运营花销(water,sewer,repair,tax,insurance, management 7%)一年24k。

现在不知道商业贷款利率怎么样,还有closing cost。

这是卖家给的cooked的数据。listing price 700k。

这个肯定不是好deal,但有多少降价空间呢?

各位前辈再给些建议。

 

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borisg
you will be working for other people...
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newleaf2020
cry,多希望我也能捡个十几万的deal啊。晚入场的真难。
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shanzhongke
在加州是super deal, 中西部是bad deal. 不说地点,别人如何建议。
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newleaf2020
不知道地点也有意义,不是看现金流吗。东部
土妞2021
減掉mortgage, is there any cash flow?

Remember the rent should times, 85%, also do you pay property management?

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newleaf2020
这个rent算了vacancy,运营花销里面包含了管理费7%,但没算mortgage
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MrsKwok
有没有降价空间要看当地市场。现在这些数字加贷基本是打平。卖家给的expenses数字都会

偏低。

如果是你自己接手管理,升级和加租,到是可以做的。

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ahniu
65% is cost.

are you sure?

亏本买卖满大街。

(发自我的文学城离线浏览器)

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newleaf2020
现在SFH也没有现金流了。多家庭的cash flow要多少%才值得投资呢?
如山
不用看地方?在西雅图区100年楼龄这样的building 会bid up 到

120万以上。你说能够70万买到还不是super good deal?

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catch123
7.3% cap, 说不好的同学, 可以显示一下你的好deal吗?
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newleaf2020
学习了。确实不懂,小白一个,以为只要看现金流就好了
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youzifive
要是东部, 还要看房龄多少?太老房子, 维修费用高, 投资价值不大。 在南北卡, 佐治亚, 房龄最好不要超过

40年; 另外, septic tank 的老房子最好不要

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smlandlord
the rule of thumb on operating expenses,

the rule of thumb on operating expenses, for a hands-free operation, if the complex is older than 30 years, the expenses ratio is 60 (expenses)-40(operating income), if the complex was built within 20 years, 50-50, if within 10 years, 40-60, again this is varied by taxes and insurances, just a ballpark number.

now, this is before any mortgage payments, so if you planning to leverage 500k, your yearly outlay is 30k ish.

so this 8 unit barely breaks even, without reserves, your profit is the principal paydown.

but in long term, you are still gaining, as you can always increase rents, which translates into a better CAP = forced appreciation.

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FEB18
看地点和当地的租房法律。只从数字上看你的这个物业还行。

我十年前用九十万买了与你这个相似的百年老龄的物业,当时租金只有六千三,回报不到4%。有租控。先后翻新了几套,如今租金$14K一个月,地税长了250%,目前市价二米五左右。因为主要租年青上班族,水电费每年3千左右,每年维修费不超过3千。开支大头是地税保险。

土妞2021
如果減掉房貸及費用能打平,也算是好的!大概可能的支出如下:

Repairs Mortgage payment Mortgage insurance (PMI or MIP) Vacancy rate Property taxes Utilities (water, sewer, trash, electric, propane, natural gas, etc.) Catastrophe insurance (flood, fire, earthquake, property hazard) New appliances General upkeep, landscaping, and property management HOA fees/dues Office supplies/software Gas/mileage Payroll
芒果刨冰
樓主是自己TF嗎,不是的話維修費用無上限啊
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newleaf2020
谢谢大家的回复。这是一次尝试吧,也是个学习的过程,从SFH到多家庭总得要有个开始。我想到了一些问题,先联系list agent。
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newleaf2020
我没有自己维修,以前有自己刷墙,修个简单的。后来就是找便宜的工人。现在人心不古,找到好的维修工很难。不过也没想赚到每一分钱,该请

该请人请人,自己还有工作,小孩也不大,忙不过来

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newleaf2020
这个信息太好了,有参考价值
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Sunflower28
在东北超过三家庭有regulation, 如防火要求,要查清是不是违章房。比方要加防火洒水系统可能要20万。纽约还有租控
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newleaf2020
谢谢提醒。坑很多啊。租控倒是没有
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xhjaer19721
please check out those big items

Not sure how old is the building and what is the current condition.

1. How old is the roof? It could be $10k to $15k cost if it needs replacement.

2. How old are the 8 HVAC systems? If more than 15-20 years, it could easily cost you $50k for replacement.

3. How old are the kitchen cabinets/ countertop and appliances, and the bathroom condition? Kitchen and bathroom are the place that you need to update before increasing rents.

Hope it helps. 

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newleaf2020
非常有帮助。已经联系agent问了房子的这些condition。