The Joint Chiefs meanwhile while having some difficulty with the general Ridgeway, who had become thoroughly exasperated with the communist tactics of argument, invective and harassment. He recommended The United Nations “get tough” with the Reds, and said diplomatic language was useless in these military talks. “To sit down with these men and deal with them as the representatives of an enlightenment and civilized people”, he complained to the Chiefs on August 6, “ is to deride one’s own dignity and to invite the disaster their treachery will inevitably bring upon us.” He wanted to tell the UN delegates to “employ such language and methods and these treacherous savages cannot fail to understand, and understanding, respect.” The Chiefs calmed Ridgway down and the talks went on.
So did the fighting. Ridgway got permission from Truman to make a major air strike on the North Korean capital of Pyongyang, which took place on July 30, and he also sought a combined naval and air attack against the North Korean port city of Rashin (Najin), only a few miles from the Soviet border. The decision on Rashin also went all the way up to the President, who approved a JCS recommendation for an air strike, but not naval bombardment. The attack against Rashin was carried out August 25 by thirty-five B-29 bombers under navy fighter escort.
Ridgway also approved General Van Fleet’s Operation Talons, a proposed attack designed to straighten out the Eighth Army line from Kumwha to Kansong (on the east coast) in the central and eastern sectors. Talons ultimately never was attempted because the evidence of what such an operation would cost became gruesomely evident as a result of a limited attack which Van Fleet ordered in the X Corps area. This attack, which acquired the highly appropriate, if journalistic, name of the Battle of Bloody Ridge, was to demonstrated the true nature of battle between armies deeply emplaced on heavily defended main lines of resistance.
原文：He wanted to tell the UN delegates to “employ such language and methods and these treacherous savages cannot fail to understand, and understanding, respect.”
译文：他指示联合国军代表要采用针锋相对的方式和语言，来对付这些“背信弃义的野蛮人”
wanted to tell, 翻成 指示，下面李奇微的话，有针锋相对的意思吗？这不是地摊货的翻译，是什么？
• 您的这个中文译本，满足地摊货的定义。：）李奇微的话的翻译，歪曲原文，后面几段，翻译的用词和语气，都有强烈的倾向性。 - 蒋闻铭 -
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• 拜托。中英文都在这里，把应该翻成 没开化的野蛮人翻成不开明，不是地摊货是什么？如果有可能还是要读原文， - 蒋闻铭 -
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The Joint Chiefs meanwhile while having some difficulty with the general Ridgeway, who had become thoroughly exasperated with the communist tactics of argument, invective and harassment. He recommended The United Nations “get tough” with the Reds, and said diplomatic language was useless in these military talks. “To sit down with these men and deal with them as the representatives of an enlightenment and civilized people”, he complained to the Chiefs on August 6, “ is to deride one’s own dignity and to invite the disaster their treachery will inevitably bring upon us.” He wanted to tell the UN delegates to “employ such language and methods and these treacherous savages cannot fail to understand, and understanding, respect.” The Chiefs calmed Ridgway down and the talks went on.
恰在这时，参谋长联席会议与李奇微将军之间出现了分歧。李奇微对共产党在争辩中采用痛骂与折磨的策略极为恼火。他提出联合国要对共产党“强硬”起来，又说外交辞令在这种军事谈判上毫无用处。8 月6 日，他向参谋长联席会议抱怨说：“同这些人坐在一起，将他们看做是开明的人，等于嘲弄我们自己的尊严，结果其背信弃义的行为给我们造成了灾难。”他指示联合国军代表要采用针锋相对的方式和语言，来对付这些“背信弃义的野蛮人”。联席会议的参谋长们持不同态度，叫他平静下来，这样谈判才得以进行下去。
So did the fighting. Ridgway got permission from Truman to make a major air strike on the North Korean capital of Pyongyang, which took place on July 30, and he also sought a combined naval and air attack against the North Korean port city of Rashin (Najin), only a few miles from the Soviet border. The decision on Rashin also went all the way up to the President, who approved a JCS recommendation for an air strike, but not naval bombardment. The attack against Rashin was carried out August 25 by thirty-five B-29 bombers under navy fighter escort.
作战方面也是一样。经杜鲁门批准，由李奇微于7 月30日派飞机对北朝鲜首都平壤进行了一次猛烈袭击。他同时还要求对北朝鲜的港口城市罗津进行一次海、空军联合攻击。因该港距苏联边境只有几英里，因此攻击罗津的决定一直报到总统那里。总统批准参谋长联席会议进行空袭的建议，但未批准海军炮轰。8 月25日，35架B29 轰炸机在海军飞机掩护下轰炸了罗津。
Ridgway also approved General Van Fleet’s Operation Talons, a proposed attack designed to straighten out the Eighth Army line from Kumwha to Kansong (on the east coast) in the central and eastern sectors. Talons ultimately never was attempted because the evidence of what such an operation would cost became gruesomely evident as a result of a limited attack which Van Fleet ordered in the X Corps area. This attack, which acquired the highly appropriate, if journalistic, name of the Battle of Bloody Ridge, was to demonstrated the true nature of battle between armies deeply emplaced on heavily defended main lines of resistance.
李奇微也批准了范·弗利特将军的“魔爪战役”。制定的这次进攻计划，是准备在中线和东线防区内，从金化到东海岸杆城，拉直第8 集团军的防线。但“魔爪”作战计划却一直没有打算执行，原因是范·弗利特在第10军防线内所发动的有限攻势就已付出了十分惊人的代价，记者叫做“喋血山岭”，可谓名副其实。从这次有限攻势中可以看出，如要攻破重兵固守的防线将会出现什么样的严重情况。
真是没天理了，这比掘了普世公知的祖坟操了他们老娘还不可接受。
志愿军不得不放弃了自己坚持了2年的战俘全部遣返条件。，全面单方面接受了联合国军的停火条件。所有这一切都证明了：
在朝鲜战场上，是志愿军被美军打败而不是相反。
原文：To sit down with these men and deal with them as the representatives of an enlightenment and civilized people
译文：同这些人坐在一起，将他们看做是开明的人
这样的译文，不是译者水平极差，就是有意改写原文。从楼主提供的这几段译文看，译者是两者兼而有之。
刚刚反应过来：楼主前面无知无畏，诋毁罗素的《西方哲学史》和他的诺贝尔文学奖，说明她读的，也是地摊货的中文译本。罗素写的这本哲学书的语言，流畅动人，读起来令人赏心悦目，是第一流的文学家。这个楼主只读地摊货的中文翻译，是不会懂的。
所以对中方的将领，很少有具体的讨论。不要说宋时轮，陈赓邓华洪学智的名字，在书中都没有被提到。
原文：He wanted to tell the UN delegates to “employ such language and methods and these treacherous savages cannot fail to understand, and understanding, respect.”
译文：他指示联合国军代表要采用针锋相对的方式和语言，来对付这些“背信弃义的野蛮人”
wanted to tell, 翻成 指示，下面李奇微的话，有针锋相对的意思吗？这不是地摊货的翻译，是什么？
这一段，是李奇微在对上级发牢骚。任何一个对美国的军事外交的commanding structure 有常识性的理解的人，都不会说出李奇微指示美方代表团这样的话。对李奇微的牢骚，联席会议没有不同意，而是安抚他的情绪。最后一句，谈判继续，与李奇微的牢骚，没有因果关系。就这一段，把译者的无知，臆断，任意改写原文，表现得清清楚楚。这个译本，是地摊货的范本。
"原文：To sit down with these men and deal with them as the representatives of an enlightenment and civilized people
译文：同这些人坐在一起，将他们看做是开明的人
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