志愿军阵亡官方数字18万。邓小平接见某国领导时透露牺牲近50万

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ncaa
楼主 (文学城)

俄国国家解密档案里透露志愿军阵亡70万

可能统计方式不同,官方统计直接作战死亡(水分很大),邓小平数字包括冻死饿死自杀的

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Giantfan
提供一下俄国国家解密档案的出处, 好奇俄罗斯人如何知道中国死亡多少人; 邓小平接见哪国领导时透露?
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ncaa
咳,中苏互通情报。不排除中国谎报数据逼苏联出兵或要武器
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ncaa
接见小国领导,没记住。好像保加利亚,当时东欧去了医疗队
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Giantfan
我问出处. 网上找不到你讲的, 为什么各国历史学家们没引用你的
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Freemoon
他本来就是胡诌的。
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Lao_shan
确定不是100万?
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Giantfan
根据美国档案, 美国也只是估计中国死亡四十多万人. 而各国军方都会高估杀敌数

The true casualty figures for the North and South Koreans and Chinese will never be known.... 

The Chinese are estimated by the Pentagon as having lost over 400,000 killed (including Mao Tse-tung's son) and 486,000 wounded, with over 21,000 captured. 

Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/coldwar/korea_hickey_04.shtml

 

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Uusequery
这里有一些数据。。。

https://www.britannica.com/event/Korean-War

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Giantfan
同样是美国估计, 为什么会数字不一样? BBC说引用五角大楼, Britannica 引用谁的? 为什么LZ的数据找不到出处?
夜光杯
是500万,高兴了?
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Uusequery
顺便回应一下前几天的讨论。。。

On March 5, 1953, Joseph Stalin died, and within weeks the Politburo of the Soviet Communist Party voted that the war in Korea should be ended. Mao Zedong received the news with dismay, but he knew that his army could not continue the war without Soviet assistance. With a speed that amazed the negotiating teams on both sides, the Chinese accepted voluntary repatriation. POWs who wanted to return to their homelands would be released immediately, and those who chose to stay would go into the custody of a neutral international agency for noncoercive screening. The Chinese and North Koreans also agreed to the exchange of sick and disabled POWs, which took place between April 20 and May 3.

普尔一
联合国军打击侵略者,没毛病。这是依照国际法行事
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borisg
有外媒公开报道的出处么,没有就是基本扯蛋。。。
太宇
如果阵亡人数只有18万,彭老总不会心痛得不要打第五次了。没实话,只能从字里行间找真实。基层干部建议不打了,建军史上首次,湘江战役

红军损失大部分,都没出现基层不愿打的情况。战士们还没见到大鼻子,就被“拍”了,是李云龙化身王近山和润之讲的。

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Giantfan
阵亡人数只有18万,彭老总不会心痛? 美国死亡三万多美国人心疼吗?
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Lao_shan
Thanks for the info.