Many times, there is no need to prove you are always right. Otherwise no conversation can countinue. Then every conversation will end up with hostile personal attacks.
What is the point? It's the internet, everyone can have an opinion.
If you really want a conversation, then try to stand at the other party's point of view.
If you really want a fight on internet, you are wasting your life. Hohoho....
Remember that a lot of Israelis are vaccinated, around 80 percent of the adult population. That’s important. If everyone were vaccinated, then all hospitalized people would be vaccinated — and that obviously wouldn’t mean vaccination was useless. In real-life Israel, as of Aug. 15 — using Morris’s summary of official data — 301 fully vaccinated people had an illness severe enough to require hospitalization. They represented just 53 out of every million fully vaccinated Israelis. At the same time, 214 hospitalized people were not vaccinated. Those people made up a much bigger fraction of the smaller population of unvaccinated people: 164 out of every million. So an unvaccinated Israeli is about three times as likely to end up in the hospital as their vaccinated compatriot.
Many times, there is no need to prove you are always right. Otherwise no conversation can countinue. Then every conversation will end up with hostile personal attacks.
What is the point? It's the internet, everyone can have an opinion.
If you really want a conversation, then try to stand at the other party's point of view.
If you really want a fight on internet, you are wasting your life. Hohoho....
你老大要是总和你讨论谁对谁错，恐怕早离婚了。
你要是看中美关系，那里就没有对错。你觉得对的，那边就觉得错。现在认为对的，将来也可能是错。
很多事情没有对错，只有利益，或者说只有观点。
当年美国排华法案，当时都觉得对，现在不也道歉了嘛。对错就是相对的。就科学而言，你也不能肯定是100%对。
这个“美国大部分人”。那么你就应该坚持你自己的观点。
我们经常辩论啊，没问题，有辩论才能有思想的火花。经常有很好的主意发现出来。
至于怎么做饭，怎么装修，我们根本不用讨论。因为这不属于讨论范围。我直接做决定就完了。
说大多数就不准确。从疫苗的角度看，我不反对疫苗，但是以目前的接种率来看，blame unvaccinated people for spreading the virus doesn't have lots of scientific supports. 主要是疫苗的有效率不是那么高，病毒变种太快。
你非要执行mandate, l think it's unnecessary and causing more issues.
like he always does in many topics. 我是不想他离开又得大家千呼万唤才回来。
抱歉啊，crawl space 除味，我也没多少经验。
主要是先找到水源。水的问题解决，后面就是通风问题。这两个问题解决，味道会消失。
如果想马上暂时解决问题，就是bleach, white winiger plus baking soda. 在那里放几盒baking soda(注意别沾水），基本可以大幅减少气味。
以色列的数据已经说明。所以不是没打疫苗的独占医疗系统。
印度的接种率可没以色列那么高，人家现在不错。
双方为赢而辨，会把对方推得更远更坚定。懂得这个道理，既能自救又能救人。所以，善辨者得学会不辨。
没打疫苗得病还有机会活着，得了TTp，99%死。许多副作用因政治原因不被报道。我是被吓到了，第三针我是不敢去打的，有具体原因，当然个人防护必须做好，我的一个医生朋友打了二针疫苗红险些得了尿毒症，她第三针也不去打。要评估个人情况看适不适合打。
中国抗疫再好，也有武汉。而且中国很难短时间开放，一放就泛滥。有些事情要遵循自然规律。
当年欧洲人到南美，几十人就踏平。主要不是因为武器先进，而是瘟疫和病毒。南美是个封闭环境，对外来入侵没任何免疫能力，结果人口下降90%。
以后中国怎么样还不好说。因为它自己创造了一个封闭环境，对外界丧失免疫能力。如果一个变种突发，疫苗不管用。那中国一旦有任何放松，那就可能是灾难性地。
人不是上帝，科学也不是什么地方都有效。自然规律有时候还是不违背的好。
这个话题太沉重。翻篇。哈哈
不要又是zero hedge的文章啊
I think you ve heard it. 不过我可没象一样撒娇逃跑啊。哈哈
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/nearly-60-of-hospitalized-covid-19-patients-in-israel-fully-vaccinated-study-finds.html
不知道你贴的什么。我不知道他是因为疫苗生气。就送了他一张卡。这几天NVDA坐火箭了。我看他视而不见。估计不喜欢吧。我就删了。就为打疫苗这事是能挣的生气。真服了你们。垮坛等你的故事。
这几天坐火箭了。
你能拿住，主要是自己功课做得好。
你的十年炒股经验。我直接拿来用了。
打的是“病毒”，目的是抗体。Delta只要三四天就出症状，人体免疫反应要一星期。所以如果时间长了抗体下降，打过疫苗的跟没打一样。
到此打住。没啥意思。
This is exactly my point, see below.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/08/31/covid-israel-hospitalization-rates-simpsons-paradox/
Remember that a lot of Israelis are vaccinated, around 80 percent of the adult population. That’s important. If everyone were vaccinated, then all hospitalized people would be vaccinated — and that obviously wouldn’t mean vaccination was useless. In real-life Israel, as of Aug. 15 — using Morris’s summary of official data — 301 fully vaccinated people had an illness severe enough to require hospitalization. They represented just 53 out of every million fully vaccinated Israelis. At the same time, 214 hospitalized people were not vaccinated. Those people made up a much bigger fraction of the smaller population of unvaccinated people: 164 out of every million. So an unvaccinated Israeli is about three times as likely to end up in the hospital as their vaccinated compatriot.
贺三是副总，所以不断航，哈哈。
https://covid19.colorado.gov/vaccine-breakthrough
科罗拉多州数据：10月3日那一周，打完疫苗的10万人有4.3个住院，没打或没打完疫苗的10万人有17.3个住院，4.3倍。你看看数据有什么毛病。你能不能找到支持你说法的数据？
下面是纽约州数据：
https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-breakthrough-data
看Figure 2，每周进医院数据：10万人打完疫苗的进医院的比例，基本上是未打完疫苗的10分之一左右（保护率90%上下）。
说你对mandate有不同意见没问题，说打不打疫苗进医院概率差不多，那就是不看数据了。