Vaccine victims left disabled 耶鲁大学报告

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willows
楼主 (文学城)


 

Vaccine victims left disabled after taking Covid jab react to bombshell Yale study that found shots cause extreme body changes
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willows
这里面有很多真人的事情和照片,包括以前pro vaccine的医生,如果感兴趣,可以自己Google看,
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willows
今天学习了一个新的专用名词, post vaccine syndrome,
周老大
这两天AI也在给我推这个
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willows
我觉得大部分人都是从众心理打了疫苗,希望有用,只有个别人觉得自己是圣人,能挽救众生,很像李洪志大师
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Charlotte100
也有被迫打的。 朋友坚持将近2年不打疫苗,

在全家人包括医学生儿子的压力下,最终很不情愿地打了。因为不打疫苗可能连家都回不了。

 

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willows
是,瞎子摸象,谁也别笑话谁,
周老大
一切都是tradeoff
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youdecide
打不打疫苗都是为自己考虑(打的,如怕得新冠,怕失去工作,想中奖等,不打的怕得后遗症等),和挽救众生毫无关系。
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ttt1010
大湿连寄几都救不了,

哪天就挂了,,,

永远老李
Daily mail is a British tabloid newspaper

Enough said 

六号公路
Yale study 也是假的吗?

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willows
同意,打还是不打,个人选择,没人想占其他人便宜,有的人,脑洞太大了
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TBz
有Link吗?我没看到
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TBz
原文章是这个吧?

                  Health & Medicine Immune markers of post vaccination syndrome indicate future research directions

A small number of people report chronic symptoms after receiving COVID-19 shots. A new study provides clues for further research.

Feb 19, 2025 5 min read By  Mallory Locklear

AI-generated image and Adobe Stock, created and edited by Michael S. Helfenbein

Listen to this story 6:23

COVID-19 vaccines have been instrumental in reducing the impact of the pandemic, preventing severe illness and death, and they appear to protect against long COVID. However, some individuals have reported chronic symptoms that developed soon after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine. This little-understood, persistent condition, referred to as post-vaccination syndrome (PVS), remains unrecognized by medical authorities, and little is known about its biological underpinnings.

In a new study, Yale researchers have taken initial steps to characterize this condition, uncovering potential immunological patterns that differentiate those with PVS from others. The findings are early and require further confirmation but may eventually guide strategies to help affected individuals.

“This work is still in its early stages, and we need to validate these findings,” said Akiko Iwasaki, Sterling Professor of Immunobiology at Yale School of Medicine (YSM) and co-senior author of the study published Feb. 19 as a preprint on MedRxiv. “But this is giving us some hope that there may be something that we can use for diagnosis and treatment of PVS down the road.”

Some of the most common chronic symptoms of PVS include exercise intolerance, excessive fatigue, brain fog, insomnia, and dizziness. They develop shortly after vaccination, within a day or two, can become more severe in the days that follow, and persist over time. More studies are needed to understand the prevalence of PVS.

“It’s clear that some individuals are experiencing significant challenges after vaccination. Our responsibility as scientists and clinicians is to listen to their experiences, rigorously investigate the underlying causes, and seek ways to help,” said Harlan Krumholz, the Harold H. Hines, Jr. Professor of Medicine (Cardiology) at YSM and co-senior author of the study.

Data for the study came from Yale’s Listen to Immune, Symptom, and Treatment Experiences Now (LISTEN) Study, through which researchers aim to better understand long COVID and PVS. For the new study, researchers included data from 42 LISTEN participants who reported symptoms of PVS and 22 individuals who did not report any PVS symptoms after receiving a COVID-19 vaccination.

From participants’ blood samples, the researchers looked for immune features that were different between the two groups. They found several differences in immune cell populations; those with PVS had lower levels of effector CD4+ T cells and higher levels of TNF-alpha+ CD8 T cells — both are types of white blood cells — among other differences.

There were also differences in the levels of antibodies that the body uses to target SARS-CoV-2. Participants with PVS who had never contracted COVID-19 had lower levels of antibodies against the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein than control participants, likely because they tended to have fewer vaccine doses than individuals without PVS. Fewer vaccine doses and no viral infection means the body’s immune system has had little opportunity to develop a defense to the virus, said the researchers.

When the researchers measured levels of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein — the part of the virus that enables it to penetrate and infect host cells and what COVID-19 vaccines use to trigger immune responses against the virus — they found that some individuals with PVS, even those without evidence for infection, had higher levels of spike protein than controls. Typically spike protein can be detected for a few days after vaccination, but some participants with PVS had detectable levels more than 700 days after their last vaccination. Persistent spike protein has been associated with long COVID as well.

“That was surprising, to find spike protein in circulation at such a late time point,” said Iwasaki. “We don’t know if the level of spike protein is causing the chronic symptoms, because there were other participants with PVS who didn’t have any measurable spike protein. But it could be one mechanism underlying this syndrome.”

Krumholz explained that PVS might be similar to how different infections can cause chronic symptoms through distinct biological pathways. “One person might develop chronic symptoms due to immune dysregulation, while another experiences lingering effects from viral reactivation,” he said. “We need to map these different pathways carefully to understand what is happening in each case. This work is just beginning, and further studies are essential to guide diagnosis and treatment.”

Going forward, the researchers want to further validate these findings in a larger group of people “This is far from a final answer on PVS,” said Iwasaki. 

They’re also investigating several possible drivers of PVS. Along with spike protein persistence, the researchers are assessing the contributions of autoimmunity, tissue damage, and Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV) reactivation. In the study, individuals with PVS were more likely than those without the syndrome to have evidence of reactivated EBV, which is the most common cause of infectious mononucleosis, also known as “mono.”

A deeper understanding of PVS and its drivers could lead to better vaccines that have fewer side effects, effective methods for diagnosing the syndrome, and targets for treatment, said the researchers. 

“For instance, if we can determine why spike protein is persisting for as long as it is in some people, maybe we can remove it — with monoclonal antibodies, for example — and maybe that could help reduce PVS symptoms,” said Iwasaki.

Iwasaki is also a professor of dermatology and of molecular, cellular, and developmental biology in Yale’s Faculty of Arts and Sciences, a professor of epidemiology at Yale School of Public Health, and an investigator of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute.

“We’re only just starting to make headway in understanding PVS,” said Krumholz. “Every medical intervention carries some risk, and it’s important to acknowledge that adverse events can occur with vaccines. Our focus must remain on understanding what these people are experiencing through rigorous science and addressing the needs of those affected with compassion and an open mind.”

 

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TBz
你说的这篇两天前 Yale News 上的文章,你看了第一句话了吗?

文章第一句:
COVID-19 vaccines have been instrumental in reducing the impact of the pandemic, preventing severe illness and death, and they appear to protect against long COVID. 

翻译成容易懂的中文是这样的:
COVID-19 疫苗在减少疫情影响、预防重病和死亡方面发挥了重要作用,而且似乎可以预防长期 COVID。

 

先看到成绩,然后再说缺点,是这个意思吧?

 

冷月亮
就知道你要说这个。其实这是废话。全世界那麽多人都打了这个东西,大部人之后也得了新冠。既然已经打过针,你就无法成为自己的

对照组,你又如何知道针可以减重症? 拿什么做对比?

Yale的这种开场白只是一种为了cover MSM ass的话术而已。重要的信息是在那个“however”之后。文章里说,有些人体内的Spike protein 在打针后的700天后还可以被测出。而persistant spike protein has been associated with long covid as well. 

这些还只是目前阶段已知的信息而已,就已经“surprising" 了。那将来还不知道有多少surprises了,are you ready? 一句话,你再怎末洗白,都改变不了一个事实,这是一个实验型的medical intervention. 目的是什么,估计再给些时间,就可以看得更清楚了。

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TBz
你应该反问原文章的作者啊!文章是他写的。
冷月亮
明明是一个bogus claim. 却偏要拿来当撑门面 。无所谓啦,if you know you know lol
湖西
区分某种结果是新冠疫苗造成的,还是新冠感染造成的,并不容易。因为至少20%的人新冠感染没任何症状,感染了自己根本不知道。

什么是无症状 COVID-19?

冷月亮
以前从来没有听说过谁得了感冒,流感,却没有任何症状的。无症状covid这个概念也就是这次横空出世。btw, 既然可以得

新冠却没有症状,所以不自知。那么这个20%的统计数据是哪里来的?

哦对了,他们不是还改了疫苗的定义吗?好了不多说了。大家多多保重。

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newxiaoshuye
爱打就多打几针,楼下提到可能要禁了,赶紧快打!不爱打的人也没碍着谁,疫苗吹淡定哈
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TBz
原来是断章取义,添油加醋,炮制出来的文章。
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Charlotte100
身边有几个坚信新冠疫苗的朋友,以身相许,每人打满,好像是7针吧。本坛有人能晒出这样的成绩单吗?
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Charlotte100
我在生活中跟朋友有三不谈, 不谈体重 不谈爱情 不谈疫苗, 以便维持长长久久的朋友关系。
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willows
不谈政治放第一位,不过,最好玩的是,转换党派的同学们,
周老大
这个正常,年轻人倾向民主党,年纪大了倾向共和党
周老大
打过苗的几乎都得过了,也许比较不同的苗可以看出点区别
周老大
打针减重症我是信的,抗体高的时候可以抵挡一下,给免疫系统总动员争取点时间。所以应该好好研究密接到发病的时间,如果是一两天
周老大
那就是几乎无用
周老大
不急不急,既然拜登大赦了福奇,好戏还在后头
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wlili
我没得过,打了三针。我不想打,但是不打的话很多事情做不了。
玻璃坊
早知道他们会这样。还是老李那句话,爱打不打who cares
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Charlotte100
这就对了, 爱打不打。 强制让人生疑。
周老大
这个不影响统计结果。很多人是被迫打针的,包括我的家人们
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sgbigsell
你讲的时间框架很假。得新冠,就等于打了一次疫苗,早先是六个月到九个月保护期。
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Charlotte100
至少3个,还都是白人, 出来的每一针都打了, 具体是7针还是8针,我不清楚。 骗你我变小狗。

想劝劝“别打那么多拉, 3针足够了”, 刚开口就被堵回来“3个月后失效,感染新冠怎么办?”。我立即shut up. 
各人心中的上帝不一样, 我有那闲工夫不如睡觉去,还能增强免疫力。