Penn graduate in WSJ, 找工艰难的一例。QuestBridge录取,没提GPA,估计不出色。

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TigerLady
楼主 (文学峸)

 

he didn’t even get a reply. “It’s been a nightmare,” he said.

But when the Fort Worth, Texas, resident finally got a job offer, he turned it down: The job would have required a move to Massachusetts, the company didn’t offer relocation assistance and the five-figure salary wouldn’t stretch far.

“Moving to Massachusetts with almost no money is very difficult,” Leon said. Eventually he landed a job as a magnet technology engineer in Fort Worth.

For generations, Americans have chased opportunity by moving from city to city, state to state. U.S. companies were often quicker to hire—and to fire—than employers in other parts of the world. But that defining mobility has stalled, leaving many people in homes that are too small, in jobs they don’t love or in their parents’ basements looking for work.

Others are slapped with “golden handcuffs.” Those who bought homes when mortgage rates were low or have stable white-collar jobs are clinging to them rather than taking big leaps.

This immobility has economic consequences for everyone. The frozen housing market means growing families can’t upgrade, empty-nesters can’t downsize and first-time buyers are all but locked out. When people can’t move for a job offer, or to a city with better job opportunities, they often earn less. When companies can’t hire people who currently live in, say, a different state, corporate productivity and profits can suffer.

Young graduates who don’t land good jobs soon after college often never really recover from those years of diminished earnings, widening the gap between the economy’s winners and losers.

Economic and geographic mobility often go hand in hand. Declining mobility is “a big deal in so many dimensions,” said Chang-Tai Hsieh, an economics professor at the University of Chicago. His research has previously found that expensive housing dissuaded so many workers from moving for better jobs that it weighed on U.S. gross domestic product. He believes that link, seen from 1964 to 2009, likely still holds true.

The economy has held up better than many expected this year, with consumers continuing to spend even through President Trump’s tariffs and immigration raids. But GDP growth slowed in the first half of the year, and hiring over the summer has been disappointing.

Housing squeeze

In the 1950s and ’60s, some 20% of Americans would typically move each year.

The share of people moving has steadily slowed since then, in part because the U.S. population has aged, and older people tend to move less. By 2019, the year before the Covid pandemic, 9.8% of Americans moved.

During Covid, there was a wellpublicized increase in people decamping farther away from work and deeper into the suburbs. That surge was brief. In 2023, only 7.8% of Americans moved, the lowest rate logged since U.S. Census records began in 1948. That figure held relatively steady in 2024, the most recent data available.

The biggest drop: a roughly 47% decline among people moving within the same county over the past three decades, according to census data.

Brandon and Katherine Righi bought their 1,100square-foot home in suburban Summit, N.J., in 2017 with a 3.6% mortgage. They had only one young son at the time.

“The plan was to stay five to seven years and then we’d upgrade as our family grew,” said Brandon, who works in consulting.

Now, the couple have three boys under 10 in the threebedroom home with an “apartment-sized” kitchen.

The Righis were about to put their home on the market this spring. But there weren’t many larger homes available in their town, and those that were on the market were very expensive. At today’s higher mortgage rates, a bigger home would at least double the family’s monthly payment. They abandoned their plans and are staying put for now.

When Bob and Ann Ruffatto moved into their suburban Chicago house 35 years ago, they had two school-age children. Now the kids are grown up, and the Ruffattos live in a 2,400-square-foot house in a great school district that they no longer need.

“I’m in a home that should be occupied by a family with small kids,” Bob said. “I’mclogging that.”

He has already paid off the mortgage and expects to buy their next home in cash, so high mortgage rates aren’t a concern for him personally. But they are still holding him back: He and his wife can’t find a suitable home nearby, in part because so many would-be sellers are hunkering down.

For much of the 2010s, a median-income family who bought a median- priced home spent 30% or less of their earnings on housing costs, according to brokerage Redfin. That share is now 39%. Last year, home sales fell to the lowest level in almost 30 years.

John Burns Research and Consulting estimates the share of U.S. households moving to a different metro area has fallen by 29% since 2021.

Slowdown

When the U.S. started to reopen from pandemic lockdowns, companies couldn’t hire workers fast enough and job applicants could name their price. Today, the job market has slowed notably.

A measure of hiring, quits and layoff activity in a range of mostly white-collar industries— the number of people being hired or leaving their jobs divided by the size of the workforce—fell last year to its lowest level since 2009.

The share of people switching jobs declined between the 1980s and the 2010s, according to an analysis of census data by Minneapolis Fed economist Abigail Wozniak and colleagues. In the late 1990s, the probability that a worker would switch employers in any month averaged around 2.8%, according to data from the Philadelphia Fed. That is down to an average of 2.3% in the 2020s so far.

Employees are less optimistic than they were a year ago about finding a new job quickly if they lose theirs, according to a New York Fed survey. In a recent poll by joblisting site Indeed, half of respondents said they are sticking to their current job because they don’t want to worry about being laid off as the newest hire.

This combination of weak hiring and few layoffs creates an “insider-outsider divide,” said Guy Berger, senior fellow at the Burning Glass Institute.

Recent college graduates who are underemployed are more than three times as likely to be underemployed a decade later than those who quickly secure a good job, a recent study by the Burning Glass Institute found.

Leon, the young engineer, is a first-generation college student. His father immigrated to the U.S. from Mexico, worked as a fruit and vegetable picker and later became a truck driver.

Leon never expected his job search to be so hard. “As a first-gen, you’re told that if you go to college you’re guaranteed a job,” he said.

Still, he feels lucky to have landed a role he likes. “It was a bit of a needle in a haystack,” Leon said. He’s also happy to stay in Texas, at least for now. He is still living with his girlfriend’s family, but the couple have started looking for their own place.

Employers themselves are seeing a decline in willingness to relocate. During the 2022-24 period, about 10% of jobs that recruiting and staffing firm Kelly Services’s engineering division placed candidates in required relocating. Now, the figure is closer to 2% or 3%.

Less-generous relocation packages are a factor, said Mark Saltrelli, vice president of recruiting for the division. Employees with low-rate mortgages or who got hefty stock or bonus plans during the post-Covid boom are reluctant to give them up, as those perks often take years to vest.

“The golden handcuffs right now in the market are tighter than ever,” Saltrelli said.

Part of the longterm nationwide decline in mobility is because more women work full-time and they earn more money than before, said John Jones, an economist at the Richmond Fed.

Rising expenses have made a dual-income household more of a necessity for many families. Couples where both people work had the lowest levels of interstate mobility of any group in an analysis by Jones.

Craig Allen, 50, was laid off from his project-manager job at a videogame company in early July. He’s looking for a new job but says he’s unlikely to leave the Columbia, Md., area, where he has lived since 2006. His wife’s job requires being in the area, and his youngest daughter has two more years of high school left.

Allen is networking with local contacts. He also plans to look for fully remote jobs, an arrangement not uncommon in the videogame industry. “Moving to another city for a job would be the plan of last resort,” he said.

Others, like Grace Ahn, are stuck in jobs they feel overqualified for.

Ahn, 25, makes $22 an hour as a social worker at a government contractor in Orange County, Calif. When she graduated with a fine arts degree from California State University, Long Beach, in December 2023, she hoped to find a job in marketing.

She applied for about 20 jobs a day and tracked them in an Excel spreadsheet. Despite cold-calling companies and messaging HR representatives on LinkedIn, she has had no luck.

“At first I was so naive, so excited. I was like, the whole world is my oyster,” Ahn said. “The oyster has now expired.”

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Bailey4321
200份都是4月份才开始发的?拿到MA的五位数工作offer不肯去。最后在家门口找到一家喜欢的工作。还行了。
挖矿
难吗? 劳工部上半年就发了20多万个LCA
留仙之二九零零年右移
Entitlement mentality. 没有爹可以拼的就不要装牛B啊
挖矿
看这个: 大学生找工作, 要求$17/H, 被还价 $9/H

A recent Reddit post is striking a nerve with frustrated job seekers across the U.S. after a person shared how an employer laughed at her for asking for $17 an hour—and then offered her $9 instead

 

For reference I have a Bachelor's degree!!! "I was thinking more like $9" like what do you mean I have been job searching for so long I'm about to give up and flee the country I hate it here.

[UPDATE] To answer some questions:

My Bachelor's is in a creative field, so I guess the starving trope is real

The job was unrelated to my degree (I've been a bit desperate for income) but I still have years of experience in the job I applied to

I live in a major city

Didn't mean to ragebait, I was just mad and venting

Hiring manager was a boomer

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/1mcofg2/i_got_laughed_at_today_at_an_interview_when_i/

幸福象花儿一样
例子选的不够好,感觉有点无病呻吟。别人比他努力多了,申请都是以千为单位。也许申请工作也有QB就好了,继续一路优先
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Bailey4321
麦当劳快餐店都十几刀。这人也矫情了吧。申请的是啥工作呢?
大观园的贾探春
文中主角后来接受的工作其实是很有前途的,美国政府正在大力支持发展稀土磁铁供应链,他这个磁铁技术工程师前程远大。
挖矿
我加了更多信息 好像是麦当劳之类的
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Bailey4321
麦当劳不可能只给9刀啊。那该关门了。没人来干活了。
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Bailey4321
的确说MA那个工作的口吻非常entitled。大学毕业第一份工作就嫌弃不给relocation?低于十万的工作觉得钱少

QB 上藤校啥都免费,一路惯坏了的感觉。

挖矿
$9 per hour is sitting-at-home-watching-tv-while-babysitting
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volsmile
认识通过QB被大藤收的,物理奥林匹克选手。不要认为QB就是学习差。
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rr6mumu
好奇他是怎么从Penn 毕业的
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Bailey4321
不需要拿个例来generalize了。
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Bailey4321
2.0 就能毕业?另外他3个月之内找到起码两份工,大概成绩也没那么不堪?
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rr6mumu
是不是大部分是差的?
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volsmile
只认识这个QB.
幸福象花儿一样
照你这么说,大学直接把QB申请人都包圆儿了呀,反正里面都是人才。
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volsmile
确实不太了解QB。只是穷的话,和学习成绩不相关吧。
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volsmile
不是所有QB学习差,反过来就是所有QB都学习好?
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Bailey4321
不同的pool和单独的名额。胜过里面的人就行。
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volsmile
是你自己的衍义,我没说过。
幸福象花儿一样
说的是你不能以偏概全,寒门出贵子要是这么容易就不叫“贵子”了。
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volsmile
是按学习成绩分pool吗
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zaocha2002
QB是啥
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volsmile
确实只认识这一个QB。不能下结论。
留仙之二九零零年右移
QB单独的pool,比ED还早。总体来说,QB录取比别的容易
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Midwestrural
QUESTBRIDGE, 给低收入家庭孩子的一个福利, 最大的好处就是有12次ED牛校的机会...赫赫
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Bailey4321
家庭收入低于大概7.5万
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24桥明月夜
不知道说啥好。 美国雇主的负担已经很重了,难道还得出Relocation和Housing的钱吗?
成功的兔
知道有个M毕业,少于十万,波士顿,小白女
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ginger2003
这些媒体故意混淆现在年轻人就业难的实质原因。绝大多数年轻人根本不挑,如果能有个工作的话。
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volsmile
你已经是资产阶级的思维角度了。
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Bailey4321
第一份工作不能太挑起薪的。不能都40万。lol 他如果说工作性质发展方向不好那还行
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ginger2003
找不到工作,被迫参军都有很多,没办法的办法。
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bigcat2026
这是命苦不能怪政府了,政府给了钱,机会,工作,还是搞不定。如果把一个本来不合格的人硬往高处推,就是浪费资源

就像中国男足,硬要规定世界杯队员有1/4中国人,这救不了中国足球,只能让世界杯水平下降。

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Bailey4321
觉得这人学习大概还行了。否则也不会读工程坚持到毕业还找到两份不错的对口工作
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bigcat2026
这就是机会,也许凭他自己的实力,做不到,让他上名校,让他毕业,让他找到不止一份工作,政府仁至义尽。

也许有人还不过瘾,具体工作不行,让他当CEO。

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Bailey4321
工作应该是自己找的?
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bigcat2026
公司的HR有相应的对于QB,DEI录取流程。他们面试和正常人不在一个池子。比如,一批面试全是这些人,必须选一个,然后才是

择优录取

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Bailey4321
那比我想象的还好啊。lol
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bigcat2026
你怎么想的?还有其它的花样?
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wenhaomama
这种家里真穷的物理奥赛选手在曾经的中国和美国可能都存在过。现在,要想竞赛成绩好,除了
幸福象花儿一样
没想到职场也有QB单独录取一说
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Bailey4321
没想到找工作还有优惠
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Croissant_22
第一份工作只要跟专业相关的不用太计较薪水,先做起来
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zaocha2002
低收入的不就是类似之前国内农村的娃们吗?
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Midwestrural
按家庭收入, 以前是六万五以下, 他们先要筛选一遍的...赫赫
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zaocha2002
想想农村娃努力学出来的在国内几十年前还是有不少
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SVChinese
这话也对也不对。入错了赛道,将来再想转也未必容易