There has seemed to be a crystallization of theme in WXC over the years: negativity about China has become the norm across the forums to an irresponsible degree. And apparently it has entered a repetitive cycle that cannot escape itself. There are no more meaningful exchanges of opposing opinions but only confrontations.
It is only a forum for thoughts, not a courtroom for justice. But if the good thinkers leave and the bad thinkers stay to overwhelm it, the forum eventually dies. The management of wxc decides.
I have been rather regularly participating in several forums for a number of years but never intensely across WXC, so I am unable to tell if there was a transitional point.
when i started to follow WXC (after Trump won the election), I already noticed the situation as you described (can't exchange opinion, ideas). I thought it was like that before. Is that possible the new normal has something to do with trump effect?
Though I never thought about this, it makes sense as you are bringing it up. The Trump election might have served as a catalyst for the division among Chinese people here. As my current analysis of some IDs in this forum suggests, they are full of anxieties about being put into concentration camps if China-US conflicts get worse..
本想贴到意见区，但家丑就不外扬了......
我从小长大的环境就是每天都能听到各种关于国家大事、身边大事的言论，吵吵嚷嚷的，由此而知曾经发生过的种种不幸，包括反右扩大化、大饥荒、文革的，也包括后来执行了三十年的违法的民族政策、不公平的改革政策。改开之后的种种不幸大都是我亲眼见到的，改开的红利在新疆显见的少，反倒是苦难多，是小人物的苦难，包括汉族，也包括少数民族。我想如果不算民族矛盾，其它西北省份、东北也一样，只不过这些小人物的不幸哪怕数量再大、程度再深，有话语权、有闲暇的人往往看不见。
每个人阅历不同。我以为论坛是大家各抒己见、扎堆讨论的地方，都是同胞，抱团取暖岂不让日子过得容易些。吵架可以有，吵架的帖子打包就好了，谁觉得不合适谁就自己删，不必烦劳网管。更不必封人。明白网管工作难度大，不容易一碗水端平，更何况巧舌如簧时有发生，文化人动起心机来真真了得，这就很难弄清是非曲直，所以尽管不赞同，我能理解网管用封人作为一个手段，以维护论坛的和平。我曾经在意见区提过一个自认为可行的措施：由网管视察论坛，手工封人，相当于关禁闭，然后过两个星期、一个月最多三个月，由程序自动放人，这样就可避免放谁不放谁、谁说情有用等情况，既有惩戒又有尺度，公平合理。恳请网管考虑这一建议。
至于昨天晚上，上来就看到江上一郎的贴，想起跟他有关的几个人，直接或间接因他及另外几个人被封的：影云、唐静安、主流媒体、清水河谷。立后来很少来茶坛，我不知他具体是什么原因被封，但记得他们之前吵过，就在发帖时列在了一起。我的本意是觉得网管既然开恩放了江上一郎，而相关的其他人都还被封，那就请网管都放了呗，大家一笑泯恩仇，不就成论坛一大美事。昨晚用计算机下载些东西，没关机，就也留着茶坛的网页，早上查下载进度时顺便刷新了一下网页，发现两个贴都删了，赶紧返回前一页存下来，可惜没有内容了。
我以为就只删贴而已，没想到刚才一查才知江上一郎被封了。网管，您这次冤枉他了，他的那个贴没怎么出格，其实连删都不该删。虽然江上先生一直把我视作眼中钉，可我看在他兄长我老乡的份上并没记恨他，生气是真。我这头本是盼着解封，这下倒好，一转脸又多封一个......
请网管息怒。有言说得好，新冠都解封了，就趁着过节，不管哪一方，就都大赦解封吧，大家正好一起高高兴兴过新年，论坛热闹又有收益，让那些才子才女们回来在茶坛的星空继续闪烁，可好？
网管辛苦了，给网管敬香茶，热乎乎的新疆和田药茶与藏红花，当然少不了新疆抓饭、羊肉串，祝网管新年诸事顺心、友友们万事如意！
你所提到的这几个被封的都是在中坛被封的。
这首歌叫做《刘志丹颂》，天津百花文艺出版社出版的中国民歌精选第一首歌曲，就是这首。有浓郁的陕北风味。 来源: 古松子 于 2023-12-28 20:25:05 [档案] [博客] [转至博客] [旧帖] [给我悄悄话] 本文已被阅读： 15 次 (1076 bytes) 字体：调大/重置/调小 | 加入书签 | 打印 | 所有跟帖 | 加跟贴 | 当前最热讨论主题 | 编辑 | 删除 回答: 从民歌看历史：陕北人,先歌颂的是刘志丹 由 江上一郎 于 2023-12-28 18:01:43
其实中国现代民歌很多都是改编自传统民歌，文人墨客重新填词。因为当时曲调大众熟悉，有利于传播。各地当然也有不少黄色小调，登不了大雅之堂，当地能人秀才就不断改进，成了比较优雅的，带有浓郁地方特色的曲子。陕北民歌或者加上山西民歌，这些民歌传统上主要以歌颂爱情，诉苦的居多。所谓信天遊就是顺天遊，当时贺敬之听不太懂陕北话，就听成信天遊。如果没有两万五千里长征，最后到陕北十三年，全国没有那么多人知道陕北民歌。陕西主要音乐是秦腔，眉户，碗碗腔，而这些是综合艺术。陕北民歌当时在关中平原并不流行，陕南民歌荷花舞曲更少人知道。现在大众熟悉的春节序曲就是陕北曲调改编的，由李唤之作曲。中国这几十年民歌三个地方的最有名气：陕北民歌，新疆民歌，云南民歌。民国时期应该是江南民歌比较流行，还有广东音乐吧？这你知道和熟悉啊！
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加跟帖：呼唤江兄回来！谢谢。
茶馆论坛好好玩，很热闹，不像是歌坛死气沉沉的。
节日愉快！
只骂汉奸。谁替鬼子暴行洗地，美化日寇侵华，我骂谁。
茶坛反动派，形象
There has seemed to be a crystallization of theme in WXC over the years: negativity about China has become the norm across the forums to an irresponsible degree. And apparently it has entered a repetitive cycle that cannot escape itself. There are no more meaningful exchanges of opposing opinions but only confrontations.
历史大多数情况下都是劣币驱良币，但总有物极必反的时候，放心：）
It is only a forum for thoughts, not a courtroom for justice. But if the good thinkers leave and the bad thinkers stay to overwhelm it, the forum eventually dies. The management of wxc decides.
I have been rather regularly participating in several forums for a number of years but never intensely across WXC, so I am unable to tell if there was a transitional point.
哪方的人（ID）多，网管就听哪方的，所以得止损。
when i started to follow WXC (after Trump won the election), I already noticed the situation as you described (can't exchange opinion, ideas). I thought it was like that before. Is that possible the new normal has something to do with trump effect?
Though I never thought about this, it makes sense as you are bringing it up. The Trump election might have served as a catalyst for the division among Chinese people here. As my current analysis of some IDs in this forum suggests, they are full of anxieties about being put into concentration camps if China-US conflicts get worse..